excuse me, are these theses after all, or shall we say, what are the prescriptions of president putin’s administration? no, i think they are in the heads. he does not play any role and he really thinks so, and i think that many in the russian elites think so. what did he say? well, of course, it does not benefit russia, and glory and praise be to god, as they say, because now everyone, after listening to lavrov's words, understands what this regime is about, first of all, bucha kramatorsk, and all the beastly elements of this war, etc. lavrov's words and it is clear to everyone that this regime cannot belong to our civilization it's just er risk and destruction at any moment and because of this the

west is revising its strategy because before he tried to contain this russia and now he will isolate and although he won't say it publicly he will work on rebooting this regime, otherwise at some point putin will let go of nuclear missiles, that is, a person who is in a position to make a decision to start aggression against another independent ukraine. he can really decide to do anything and therefore uh-uh-uh-uh now the whole car is world-class, at least western will work on the reboot of russia period dear friends we work live on the espresso tv channel and also on our social networks on youtube and also on facebook for

those who watch us now on youtube and facebook, please like this video so that it is trending on facebook and youtube. well, subscribe to our social networks . now you can see on the screens where we are represented in practically all social networks mr. pavel, there is another topic - may 9 is a special sacred day for vladimir putin, general budanov. the head of the main directorate of military intelligence of ukraine talks about what is possible. putin does not have enough strength to fight in ukraine and that this mobilization can begin if this happens. does this mean that russia should officially declare war in

ukraine, because until now they are at war in ukraine is called a special military operation, it is quite possible, i think that putin can declare war not only on us, but also on everyone else, unofficially , at least on the west, because all the representatives of the russian elite constantly say that they are actually fighting in ukraine against the west and, first of all, against the united states. that is why he can formulate it as some kind of russian campaign against nazism or some other nonsense that will be broadcast on russian television. i also think that russia will try to organize in the occupied territories the pseudo-fake referendum is about not just

independence, but joining russia. on december 30 this year, it will be 100 years since the creation of the soviet union, and putin critically needs to show something . he has the idea in his head that he is the last defender of russia and the last, who can be like them? they say to collect russian lands and the probability of organizing such referendums is very high and it is not for nothing that they have now designated the new curator of donbass and most likely not only donbass, it is kirienka who, by the way , is being considered as one of the candidates as far as i understand ah, on the legacy of putin, so that the collection of these russian lands, the holding of referendums is absolutely like me, probably, by the way, about kiriyenko , information appeared from the main

intelligence department of the ministry of defense of ukraine about the fact that serhiy kiriyenko arrived in mariupol and there he will prepare the so-called parade of the destroyed throughout the city they are trying to create some kind of picture for the russian citizen in order to show how victorious russia is marching through ukraine and fighting the so -called nazis, in your opinion as a world the community, including the united nations, must react to this action, which , according to ukrainian intelligence, may take place in mariupol on may 9, serhii well, we understand very well that everyone treats the un as an organization that cannot uh, do nothing real in this war, uh, he is despised in today's reality, uh, in russia, and everyone else

treats an absolutely impotent structure . the fate of the league of nations, which simply disintegrated. by the way, the ussr in the 39th year of the league of nations was excluded after the beginning of the aggression from finland. and it was also a good thing to do , despite what is written there in the statute. moreover , the statute was fundamentally violated by russia and it definitely has no place in the united nations, and i think that after war, we have to get support to restart the united nations, and the secretary general should have been here right here from the first days, and the fact that he was not there, and this shows the role of this

organization in general, and the world will certainly look at this so-called the parade is also a spectacle because er russia tried in 10 days to capture all of ukraine in reality it is waging a war of destruction and in this war war crimes crimes against humanity acts of genocide this is already normality excuse me for saying this, it is for the russian troops, for this horde this is normality and the world will see this parade as yet another proof of the split skazenilov of russian revanchism, because in russia some thinking is real, and thinking in general has been replaced by propaganda, we see that the russian military, at least some of them are real, believe well, only

imagine that they are fighting here in ukraine against the nazis, but in fact it is a fascist regime, here find 10 differences from uh, between mussolini's regime and putin's regime, you won't find them, here is the mythologizing of the past, uh, for the vertical structure, total cleansing and in general the creation of a myth is unreality, it is already some mythologized reality that is there, and the whole world will simply see and condemn this so-called parade, what else could it be? well, by the way, when we talked about a possible mobilization, it is possible the declaration of war, the press secretary of putin's eyes did not say that he said that there will be no decision on mobilization on may 9 and that russia will not declare war on ukraine on may 9, he

said that this is a delusion, well, considering that the russians always lie then, in principle, not a single word, including piskov, can be believed. however, i would also like to ask you about the possibility of creating a un peacekeeping mission in order to save the people who still remain in mariupol, meaning not only civilians but also military personnel, we know that the military has repeatedly publicly appealed to the presidents, including the president of turkey , rzhep and erdoğan, so that under the flag of a third state people who are on the territory of the azov sea should be withdrawn, but this issue concerns the fact that the general assembly recently approved changes to the regulatory decision-making procedure , i.e. from now on, if you impose a veto at the level of the un security council, within 10 days the general assembly will be convened

, you will have to explain why you imposed this veto, well, it means about russia, which is a member security council of the united nations and she had to explain why she imposes certain vetoes in the security council system, that is, do you not think that such a mechanism should work? nations, not letters of negotiation with russia on the topic of rescuing people from mariupol, i do not believe in the role of the un. i pay tribute to the desire to help him. to speak openly about uh, there are my

ongoing discussions. i really hope that at least some of them will lead to a result. we all have a heartache when we see and think about mariupol, but i absolutely and frankly do not believe in the role of the un. i believe - in the possibility of accomplishing something for other mediators. and as for the right of veto and the general assembly, i believe that russia needs to take away its rights in general right now on any issues that directly concern russia, this is the absolute minimum, i emphasize the absolute minimum that is needed directly i have already mentioned the data of the main directorate of intelligence of the ministry of defense regarding the possible development of events in russia and what our military intelligence officers are predicting, so general kyrylo

budanov, who heads the gur of the ministry of defense of ukraine, says that there are two scenarios for the development of events around russia and the end, rather , of russia's war with ukraine, this is the division of russia into three or more parts and the relative preservation of russia's territorial integrity in the event of a change in the leadership of the state, which scenario do you prefer i'm leaning, i'm leaning towards the second scenario, this is how it looks today. i think that the russian elites will try to download it. i apologize for this regime and show the west that it is now possible to talk with them. most likely, the transformation of russia from the federation to a deeper federal model or confederation is also

absolutely real, if it begins to fall apart , we must understand that the debris will also fall on our heads and these will also be fundamental risks for our national security, but as it looks today, the west wants to reboot this mode, because i understand that this is a fundamental threat to everyone, but to reboot it in such a way as not to create greater risks for itself and, most likely , it will mean some kind of modification of the second model of the second model. i am not sure that there are only two such options. how says mr. budanov, i see them in fact, in fact, more. but nevertheless, i also see a desire in the west not to create fundamental risks for planetary security. well, now i

understand that the west understands exactly what vladimir putin is. - personally, he threatens the world absolutely here is a very clear understanding and it is already clear to everyone that he cannot be convinced what he represents what he says this is his sincere conviction this is his vision of history absolute mystical mythologized this is his personal vision of his role in the history of russia move him from this it is no longer possible, and it does not matter here whether we consider his decisions to be rational or irrational, he will be a prisoner of what he believes, and this is exactly how he personally creates a

threat to security, and planetary security, i i emphasize not only the security of our state. let's talk about the danger or the possibility that other countries can support putin in one way or another, because a few days ago, the secretary of the national security and defense council, oleksiy danilov , said that hungary -e knew about putin's plans to attack ukraine and in this way, they say, hungary expected to get a part of the territory of the ukrainian state yesterday, budapest e-e replied that they said it was a fake that does not correspond to reality, the spokesman hungarian prime minister zoltankovach wrote on twitter that the answer is, well, this is the answer to fake news. on april 3, the hungarians decided that hungary will not supply weapons to ukraine, although we

understand that ukraine does not support our decision to spread fake news and inventing lies will not change our position hungary's position has always been er in all of our er initiatives, which are related to our advancement to the west, advancement to the european union, advancement to nato has always been specific, danilov says about that that budapest agreed on something with moscow. how much do you believe that orbán and his state could be in certain contacts and that they could be informed about putin's plans and that hungary was counting on transcarpathia? i am absolutely sure that putin talked to the hunchback about transcarpathia and talked not only during orban's last visit to

putin before the war. it was also before that. i don't know and i don't have any evidence. i emphasize the evidence that urban negotiated with putin about the possibility of receiving a part of transcarpathia or all of transcarpathia. i think that for orban, this step, both for the eu country and not, would end their stay in these organizations, a country that can eat part of the territory of another independent ukraine, either in nato, or in the eu urban is an experienced politician, he can weigh all the risks, so i think that mr. danilova

has sources and he can claim one thing or another, but we have to understand that in the future, when we join the european union and nato, hungary will also be there, and although it is very a difficult neighbor is very, very difficult we have to understand that we have a senate within the framework, we will need to interact with hungary and i am sure that with hungary we can find an option and a common language . of ukraine allows us to reach solutions that are 100% suitable for our and ukrainian national interests, i am absolutely

sure of this and it will be achieved as a result, but to seize part of the territory for hungary 100% eh it will never happen and it's not just without chances . i think that then orbán will be cursed by everyone because it creates much more risks for hungary and for its statehood than benefits, i am absolutely convinced of this even mr. pavla i i wanted to ask you about the history with moldova. since we are currently watching the unfolding of the events surrounding the self-proclaimed transnistrian republic of moldova, there are constantly reports that this territory, which is under the control of the russian federation, but is de jure on the territory of moldova, russia is preparing one of the

bridgeheads in order to strike either our troops located on the southern front , the southwestern front, or to start a war in moldova in the direction of chisinau, go in the direction of chisinau, you have already mentioned december 30 and th century of the soviet union, and it is clear that vladimir putin, as a symbolist politician, wants to create some analogue or prototype of the soviet union, well, you can say that, mini-sr. moldova also when it was part of the soviet union and moldova can also be one of the objects or subjects in this situation in order for the russian troops to embark on a military campaign against moldova as far as possible and

to the extent that romania's position, which in principle has a sufficiently large influence on the territory of moldova will be decisive here, and i think that in fact putin would very much like to include moldova by seizing it in the union state and pack it into the new soviet union . unfortunately, there is a large empire in moldova part of the pro-russian people is this we know the communists-socialists and everything. who is there in moldova is very afraid, very afraid of war, they just hold their hearts because of it, they are not like ukrainians, they will somehow not speak badly about moldovans. but i think that as ukrainians, they cannot fight for us, of course there is a risk that the

escalation will go from transnistria, they say that they are moving en masse to the territory of moldova, so that, god forbid, mobilization with those who are there now will happen. of additional parts, it’s not that simple, it’s the same either through our territory or through moldova, e-e romania will definitely support moldova for her, the issue of moldova is a matter of relatives e-e and as they believe in romania, in fact, one people and one nation, that’s why the attack on moldova will of course be challenges for romania as well and i think that we have to come to a joint strategy and know from

romania and i am sure that the plans for this possibility are definitely already at the end of our program very briefly mr. pavel regarding our euro-atlantic prospects because this is the main main demand of moscow that we should not go to nato, but judging by the weapons that are now coming to ukraine, we will very , very quickly, well, at least in the military sphere, we will certainly meet nato standards. in this direction, and i think that from the point of view of bravery, from the point of view of commitment, determination, the ability to conduct combat operations, we are better than almost anyone who is and is in which i am absolutely

sure that we will be taken as an example, and russia calm down and i think that in fact the future entry of finland and sweden into nato will also give an impetus, i think that nato will soon have even more countries, the topic is such cautious conversations that nato will only strengthen because the alternatives to nato today in the new conditions are a political reset it’s just not. and in moscow, let them rest, it’s their business. what are they doing there in yaroslavl or in kolomya? and we will do what we think is necessary in our own country. it is called attacking other countries. and our entity is to make our own decisions about our future

. thank you, mr. pavla, for these optimistic notes and for these golden words of yours, and we will finish our conversation. thank you for the conversation. this was a politician-diplomat. minister of foreign affairs of ukraine 2014- 2019 pavlo klimkin this was a program of verdicts about and serhiy rudenko. tomorrow we will meet with you as usual. at 1:00 p.m., serhiy rakhmanin, a people's deputy of ukraine, who knows exactly everything about national security and defense, will be my guest. wait for tomorrow's program and our broadcast will continue . goodbye. subscribe to watch our channel's espresso news and euro programs. espresso for ukrainian refugees in europe. joint

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