about our desires that do not coincide with reality because, literally, from now on, the telegraph agency of the soviet union. this is indeed a pro-russian publication, but the spread of information about the fact that, as the head of opec testifies, there is no substitute for russian oil in the world. europe will suffer from a lack of oil. well and in particular, the same russian publications officially declare a 40% increase in applications for the purchase of russian gas for the month of may. well, of course, we will check the information , because trusting the russian mass media is not in itself to trust, i will say frankly. sorry for such a comparison. but at the same time, we cannot disregard this information, which they present as official . at this stage, in my opinion, there is really an increase in supplies. at this stage, there is the creation of

certain reserves in the european union. which she will wage a war against ukraine, even if he provided such interesting information, which i think is very interesting for the world, a loud loud slogan that we have already been discussing for probably 5-6-7 years, if not less, when will the world finally make a decision and shutdowns the banking system of the russian federation from this payment system, and of course we would very much like it. there have already been similar cases in the history of modern civilization. they did not last long. margu and the xi system will not be able to. the european union , gradually abandoning oil, will abruptly abandon the world. i boil it down to the fact that now, unfortunately, the sanctions policy of the european union looks very unattractive, to put it mildly , it looks deceptive in terms of its

effectiveness. i also said the same thing. in the 15th, 16th, 17th and 18th years, when the current government proved that sanctions on politicians after the annexation of crimea by the european union were very effective, and even now they are weakly effective in terms of reducing the ability of the russian federation to finance military operations in by and large, translating into simple language, today the european union finances the war in ukraine through the purchase of energy resources from the russian federation, oil, gas and solid coal , coal, ordinary coal, that's why this is a problem for today . we will see specifically, but for example what is being voiced now, but to put it mildly, i don't like it very much, we wanted it, what else did mrs. ursula say, the criminals are sitting in the kremlin, we know who it is they will be brought to justice, russian banks were disabled, the swift system and also sber and the other two critical for

russian systems will be disabled, she said , er, the russian federation will be isolated from the world financial system, von der lai assured. well, he told us that restrictions will be imposed and on cable satellite communication, three russian channels broadcasting in europe will be banned well, let's talk about money, about my mr. sergey, i just once worked in an anti- tobacco company, they have bloomberg, he was the mayor then new york, he financed the global fight against tobacco smoking, and we had several positions there, in particular, there were many people against the ban on smoking in public places . it is important that the price of cigarettes is high, because in order to cut off the young audience, the old stage will smoke, and there the young people need to be cut off. it was not about a gradual increase in the price of it . in people's pockets and if it is done step by step, then people simply get used to it and they simply have more money and

the same youth pay for these cigarettes. will be in stages, then the russian economy and russian leaders will simply get used to them, and you and your habits and your society will get used to them, the sanctions should be one day in one moment and immediately have an effect, well it seems so to me. maybe i am wrong . please correct me so that all of them are introduced at the same time and so on. the european union is always the result of the consensus of negotiations within the european union, so the sixth package that has been announced now, the main thing there is the

oil mark - i really like it, it is not one day. it can be there within three six 9 or 13 months. 6 months is again quite a strong sanction plus one is much faster to react than sanctions because if companies know that after six months they will not be able to have relations with certain partners they start looking for a replacement right away accumulate some reserves somewhere with money that they do not have, no, they are starting to look for other partners in order to have long-term relations already with other oil suppliers, therefore, de facto in business, yes, these children are even faster than these six months with yes, well, i would like it to be faster, but faster is impossible, we have to understand it because faster simply does not work that's all and also six months it's

good until the end of the year, it will work oil already oil is accepted why swift could not be excluded at one point and gradually here are two banks here three banks here one more bank and let's finally after two years the world will be disconnected maybe or maybe not see why the investigation is disconnecting all banking systems because you need to pay for gas while they remain relations between europe and russia, it is necessary that these payments go, if not, but now we are exaggerating, in fact, this is a power outage at sberbank, because sberbank is already included in the most severe sanctions of the united states of america, and this has actually played a role, and the disconnection of sberbank has already played a role does not mean anything in fact well, what did they say that this fondolyansky we want to put pressure on russia and find alternative sources of supply so that we can continue to consume

the energy we need, she emphasized that putin wanted to simply erase ukraine, but he failed. ukraine united and rejected putin with quotes. we want to win this war and not only win, but also create the prerequisites to rebuild ukraine after the war. regarding the reconstruction, mr. valery , let's say two words. well, when this fund for the reconstruction of ukraine has have already received the first money and what amounts are involved and who should become donors of such a project. there will be various sources of funding. the fact is that e a bill registered in the united states of america that provides for the confiscation of property from the arrested person that has come under the sanctions of the united states, e.e., worth more than 5 million dollars, with the possibility of transfer by the president of the united states of america himself, then these funds to ukraine for the reconstruction of infrastructure, including for the purchase of weapons,

this by the way, one of the uh, one of the four financings of the help for the lend-lease forest field that we will receive from shat well, it is clear that we will have to pay for some of it. this is one of the mechanisms, the next mechanism, more precisely, the source where the money can come from, which is already at the stage of discussion almost a month ago, the minister of finance marchenko reported about it at one time, he said the following: what about conducting negotiations with many countries with the possibility of unused gold and currency reserves that were replenished at the expense of e-e without e-e irreversible financial assistance from the international monetary fund in august of last year, which was provided within the framework of the program to combat the consequences of the pandemic of answers for transfer to a special account ukrainian let's say so also, in order for this money to be freely used later, we are talking about hundreds of billions of dollars. at this stage, there is already a report that such a special account has been opened by the

international monetary fund. more precisely, it is a special financing program according to which we will receive 5 billion dollars every month, but it is also about additional money, that's why there is a question of the receipt of finances, i don't see a big problem in this, i'll tell you frankly, the main thing is to have a concept of the world well, if you evaluate the level of the volume of simulated money in the world economy during the pandemic, it is calculated in tens of trillions of dollars, about 23 million dollars were in the economy. that's how it worked, it provoked certain operational processes, but, well, against the background of that really disaster, i'm saying without change, it's somehow without change, in ukraine, the volumes of displaced infrastructure and the volumes of m-m underachieved profits for this period we have somewhere around you one plus a trillion dollars ago the money will be another question so quickly we will be able to master them and in the end the question when will we be able to do it, because at this

stage, the period of active hostilities, of course, it will be impossible to do it in full. well, plus, let's not forget that during the period of march 24-25, when the european union summit was held , a decision was made to create a special transport fund for ukraine, which will also be filled with various money and loans and non- refundable financial aid and grants for various programs for various purposes, so i don't see a problem now in where we will get the money for reconstruction is a real problem for me, which you raised first - it is about the sanctions policy. i completely share the words of my colleague. you know, you can't expect a one-time solution to this problem , and it would be. well, not sincerely, and it would be, well , childishly naive to think that this is possible. happen definitely because the three countries of the european union depend directly on their citizens, who are not just their voters, but also those who, in accordance with current laws, demand the

provision of their social benefits and energy складоваться one of them and what is the problem here? today, the leaders of the european union should first of all raise a discussion about what mistakes they made earlier in the issue of ensuring energy security. they then talked about a unified policy for the purchase of energy resources, but pay attention to how hungary and slovakia are now conducting it , in fact, it is blackmailing the european commission today, the european union in general, regarding the adoption decisions regarding the 6th constitutional package and let's see what god smokes at the exit, they are simply banal bargaining. i don't think that they are accused of this , i put hungary and slovakia as a matter of fact as one of the problems that the european union should deal with, including but in recent years, recalling the construction of the nord stream -2 and other policies in terms of russia's energy supply, which relate to i reduction of fossil fuel production and including the development of

nuclear energy and so on, you can also list green energy, so how about mistakes the european union allowed a lot, but they don't talk about it, if it were updated now, we started making friends from the ground up, now it 's very difficult for us to find a replacement. thank you. well, i agree with you that the issue of sanctions and their severity and their terms is very important, but the issue of reconstruction is also very important important for ordinary citizens. i'm just a resident of irpen, the kyiv region has been vacated for a long time and reconstruction is underway . i don't have a single window in my apartment, and everyone who lives there understands that until the fall is left very little time and the frosts and cold will follow and people are also very worried about when and in what way at least the glass in their houses will be restored. i am not talking about those houses that are partially or completely destroyed, this is a question people like very much. what do you think anyway at whose expense this should happen,

we know that the first billion for reconstruction has already been allocated, in particular, it is the freed territories and they will be developed without the prozoro system, and so far we do not see, in particular, in my sumy oblast, i have not seen how there who will develop this money or windows or on doors are at the expense of, for example, windows in villages in cities that were liberated that were under occupation, because local budgets there also received 15-20% of what it was before, let's say now there is a question of financing the deficit of the current budget, which the ministry of finance decides mainly for with the help of our measures, the materials of the issues and now really funding will be at a minimum for all projects because there is no money and while the money will end, they will not change the real reconstruction, the real investment reconstruction will begin after the war will end and this marshall plan will be formed, now the calculation is going on, now ideological

preparation is going on, maybe the skeleton of the next fund is being designed, i think that it was really very logical to use this track fund under the european union and tie this support to european integration because we know that all countries that are integrated into the eu receive additional support through where we will take this money, first of all it will be the money of our western partners among the combined pants - this the european union is the imf, the world bank, will it also be possible to attach the specialized assets of the russians to this money, it is theoretically possible , just here, you will have to go through the legal process, and it will be quite long, even if there is some legislative regulation in the united states, but more money is currently being frozen in the european union. for example 300 billion dollars of reserves are combined with 300 dollars, russia noted that only 46 billion of them were in assets tied to the american dollar , therefore the role of europe is much more important here

the legal process may be much longer because it separately considered this issue of compensation for its russia and separate financing of the reconstruction of the future plan of the march, which is most likely possible with the use of those funds and most likely with the use of those funds that arose and ended up at the expense of ukrainians after the imf do you remember? last year, ukraine suddenly got two and four billion dollars for beautiful eyes. that's how most countries in the world got money just in their respective times at the imf. the share of the civilized world has much more education and they have not used these funds they are still there in the account and actually for the governments of all countries it would be the easiest because these funds are worth nothing, sorry, that's why they also lie in the account up and you don't take all the funds from the budget of your own country, that's why your elected officials won't tell you why you're not paid, you'll be a dear python to me. and you give yourself up for dear ukraine, eh. i can't

give up my share to tell ukraine this, but how can we do it here so that they don't steal because it's transparent typical ones are transparently excluded, and now i hear a lot of people asking, but where is the transparency in the development of these millions, because when a lot is given, when everyone is giving, then there is a great temptation for those who manage this money to use the good old schemes, i agree with you, so there are two directions here the first direction that the allocation of these funds in the next 14-15 years should be tied to reforms, first of all, those reforms that concern the rule of law, the established form, the second reform, the elections of the city commission, the second direction, the second thesis it is the fact that the people who do not have the funds that ukrainian politicians do not have, namely the dollars , do they mainly accept those people? by the way, ukrainians should be mainly ukrainians, of course, but

they should be hired so that there is no political delay here, so that there are no interests which then influenced the decision-making, i heard that i wanted you to say something more about such a topic, it is interesting for more than two months, in more than two months, ukrainians lost almost 90,000 cars, and you, serhiy, wrote to yourself that what the government did was not it should be done. that is, it is zero duty on the import of cars and cheap cars. now everyone has gone to buy them. on the one hand, it is good because these 90,000 people who lost their cars will be able to buy cheaper, and on the other hand, now there are queues at the border. please valery klychok, you then serhiy furs well, there is a stick or ends the fact is that the topic i also analyzed it in detail there so much that we would really place them today, the car is worth somewhere around 5,000 €, if you

buy it, it will cost well, somewhere within the e -is 640 e-e dollars in total with all services even to drive it across the border in conditions when there are a lot of needs cars are really on the front line about this very correct decision in my opinion the only thing that i think the legislator made a mistake in part of what should have been introduced additional regulation of the possibility of bringing in cars by private individuals, for example, one car is available for a certain period, for example, for 6 months, the subscriber had access to the statistics that you just shared with me, i did not i may not trust it, but i will get acquainted with the usual figures officially from the state customs service, here we also need to take into account the number of cars that you own together with citizens abroad and in ukraine . and goods and transportation of people, so according to my calculations, the total number

of cars that left ukraine or were damaged reaches one million, this is a very huge number, and of course the nuances are as follows regarding this customs clearance, for example, you must write a statement that after the end of the war, within a certain period of 38 years, if i am not mistaken, you must pay all the duties . that the draft law of the hetman of the village, which provides for the abolition of zero customs clearance, would need to remove this norm. i would really like the deputies not to support it, but to adopt it in the editorial office, which would allow to correct the situation that really exists border with created traffic jams and this is exactly why we go on the air. by the way, hetmantsev and we can ask him, mr. course, why it was necessary to do this . it

was possible to write that, uh, these are the cars of the banderabotok , as well as here, many people lost their cars. but i think that the percentage of those people who lost their cars among those people who are now fine , the car is very, very small, well, in fact, if you we were attacked by the russians, if you lost your car, it is not that you had an urgent need to go to poland to build yourself an author, but as a result, we got such a situation that while the national bank is limiting information, and it is very rightly limited in order to exactly which deputy secho was talking to when imports are limited and suddenly a hole is created and through this hole they start taking money out of the country, and cars are usually not necessarily there for their own consumption or are given when sold or so

on and polish border guards who know da po ukraine is suffering in ukraine, trouble in ukraine must be helped, looking at this whole story with such eyes as a caravan in a car very often premium cars go to ukraine for new purchased cars simply because someone decided that during the war there is still an opportunity for him to buy a car cheaper and what the more expensive the car, the cheaper it turns out . well, because this taxation is more and the more expensive the car, the more absolutely the amount you will save and as a result we got a minus for the budget because taxes are not paid equipment that is, you are the money from the country and a little not socially just story when during the war when some people suffer others see oh this is an opportunity for me to earn thank you uh for what you explained serhiy fursa financial analyst and investment banker valery klychok political and economic expert were as our guests. thank you very much for your participation and let's move on. serhiy stegnenko

should be in touch with us. he is a public activist and a fighter of the honor unit. this is honorary serhiy sternenko, or honorists, how do you say it correctly? sergey, we welcome you, i wish you a good day. what can i tell you about your unit? what does it do, what tasks does it perform? well, literally from the first day, the unit was engaged in the defense of ukraine, in particular, they worked in the direction of kyiv and brovary. my group worked together with the artillerymen of the 72nd brigade. remote kadyrivtsev, the guys led by serhiy filimonov worked more in the brovary direction, in the sumy direction, while the russian occupiers were still there, now under the of the country continues to carry out combat missions there , and i was appointed to perform the functions of providing the unit, roughly speaking, volunteer

activities, now i am engaged in providing the unit itself and several other special units of the armed forces of ukraine and the security service of ukraine. a person who was suspected of organizing so-called mass riots near the president's office on the 20th of february last year, do you remember when the door was worn, it was described later on all televisions . march was my birthday, and this is also the person who played the main role in oleg sentsov's film. here he is, on the bottom right, a rhinoceros. i saw him recently, well, i take my hat off to sentsov and to the film engine that was often turned on in front of the seat. our broadcast, but about the actor of necessity. i didn’t even guess. have you seen this film, if so, and your unit? what emotions? yes, the rental was canceled, in fact, because the war started, but now during the first month there

in the second month of the war, some cinemas tortured him, well, people went to ask for the film. it is wonderful . in no case does it romanticize the period of the 90s. as some people think the film is about how not to fall into criminal circles. take a look at the opportunity. and what is the action now? well, i understand that many units will be transferred from the kyiv region. the situation there is already stable and controlled. of the russian invasion at the end of february at the beginning of march well, you know, it is difficult for me to talk about other units, i can only speak for the unit of which i am a direct part, as well as for the units that i help, because there are a lot of combat tasks now in the donetsk direction and on

in the kharkiv direction, but this is not news in principle . hellish battles are being fought there, but our defenders heroically hold the defense, do not allow the invaders to break through this line of defense and give us such a very important time to prepare our armed forces for the use of forces and means given to us by our western partners, who i am convinced will be able to turn the tide of the war sooner or later, yesterday the verkhovna rada passed a law banning pro-russian parties, yes, in general, 330 deputies voted for it. finally, we will stop tolerating our politics, we russian measures, which it only carries movement,” commented olga solhirya , a deputy from the presidential majority party. the author of the scheme program from radio svoboda, which

is broadcast on our tv channel, today she wrote about the lyovochkin family, which, well, one of the tampologists were pro-russian forces of various forces, from the party of regions to the opzzh , she writes. to venice, italy, his whereabouts are unknown, his ukrainian phone is on, but for a month he did not answer our calls, but he read a message in the messenger, what about yulia ilolyovochkina, well, she is his sister, so 26 in january, she flew to france in it with her husband, the head of kyivgaz, an understandable good company andriy vingranovsky. how did we manage to find out that the ukrainian mobile phone was also registered in roaming in france all this time? she also read it, but did not answer our questions. we asked fellow journalists from representatives of the ukrainian communities in france to visit hiv levochkina near nice on cape saint-jeancapfer

if i read it correctly on the french riviera well, natalka is writing to be adjacent to the estate the streets of levochka are all filled with cars with ukrainian license plates, and although there are no cars among them directly registered to people's deputies, those who are cars of their immediate entourage don't you think, serhiy, that after the war , ukraine will win thanks to such heroes as your unit, they fight directly and then that's all, well, all the characters who went abroad, and the grapevine coast of italy, about the war, will simply return and continue to rule all of us, how to avoid it, because they have they have money, they have connections, they have positions, they have enterprises, but we don't have it, unfortunately or fortunately, please. but you know, in the context of the adoption of this law on the banning of the activities of pro-russian parties, it sounds, of course, perfectly fine. in my opinion, that's the problem in the fact that we have

subjects who create pro-russian parties and these subjects have long been known, they are representatives of the same already former police force, in particular, the same lyovochka on boyko, a number of other traitors of ukraine who worked for the aggressor country for years and it seems very relevant to me the important question is no longer for legislators, but for our law enforcement officers, why are all these people still at large and not brought to general responsibility, because the war did not start in our country on february 24, much earlier than 8 years ago, on february 24 of this year, a new stage of the russian invasion, aggression , took place has been going on for years and all these people are at large, but now there is another representative, a former representative of the psj and a former people's deputy of kyiv, ilya, but he fled to spain the day before, then he fled to russia, and there he is now on the air of moscow channels calls to strike ukraine with nuclear weapons, i have a

simple question: why was he able to leave ukraine for a nod ? why? i wanted this rhetorical question, we as a society should answer this question already after our victory because now the main task of society is to defeat the aggressor and after the victory i call on civil society, which is very large in ukraine control as much as possible what the authorities are doing, demand from our authorities the strengthening of defense capabilities and, first of all, the criminal liability of all subjects who in one way or another cooperate with the aggressor country in its interests , because if we do not have pro-russian collaborators at our disposal, the pro-russian party will accordingly not create there will be someone. thank you very much, serhiy . well, we have half a minute left. maybe there are

some other things that you would like to say about on our broadcast, we did not ask you everything that i would like to say. you know, i'm sure of our victory, i see hundreds of thousands of heroic people who today defend our country and the ukrainian nation - it's heroic, frankly , you know, i'm proud that i'm ukrainian, that i have such fellow citizens, such a force as ukrainians definitely cannot be overcome, but we still have it will be necessary to work very, very hard for our joint victory, therefore it is important now not to lose momentum in order to win before work thank you serhiy sternenko , a public activist, a fighter of the honor unit, was a guest of our broadcast, more, iryna koval about news, it will tell us what happened there, iru, please, thank you for the word, it's real, yes, really