tv [untitled] May 5, 2022 11:30pm-12:01am EEST
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er, they bear such a political responsibility , and they see it as preventing a threat to poland itself, so they believe that helping ukraine is now actually ensuring the national security of poland itself, and they have er rather such complicated relations with russia. we remember and now, recently, investigations were published regarding the plane on which the polish president flew, and it is a serious concern and, let's say , certain facts that confirm that this did not happen by chance and as a result, of course, poland makes such a decision regarding the support of ukrainian citizens. she has certain benefits from this, except of course. she supports the ukrainians, and the poles themselves support them directly, but
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the ukrainians. a polish company in order to have money to provide for their own family and this is also a plus for them. i want to remind you that quite recently, a few years ago, in general, a ukrainian e-e citizen was he is recognized in poland as the most influential because the number of ukrainians who go to poland to work for the polish economy is quite large , we discussed this situation with you on the air several times when i said that poles are going to london, ukrainians are going to poland, that's all - still such an internal migration. and this is such a forced migration , because it seems to me that most of the ukrainians who left are only doing what they are waiting for when they can return to their homes anyway.
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if possible, i will read some more information so we have already started talking about housing. and you are commenting on it because my editor and i didn't quite understand. well, we didn't quite understand. how is it , what will it look like? ukrainians have submitted 135,000 reports of damaged or destroyed housing. the total area of such housing is currently 9 .4 million square meters, this was announced by the deputy head of the verkhovna rada committee on the organization of state power and local self -government, olena shulyak. tymoshenko announced that this year the authorities are going to provide 53,000 temporary apartments for forced migrants. and in this list of 53,000 apartments there are also certain conditions and some people do not fall under those certain conditions. so we are talking about people with
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many children, about pensioners, about various social groups. yes, people, please comment on this situation, because everyone is silent, i have my own opinion. i understand because there is enough completed housing. which is now empty, or even if the builders have not yet sold it. although it is actually in the final stage or has already been put into operation, that is why such housing can be found at what price will i buy it for under what conditions it will be brought up, under what conditions it will be provided, it is not yet known, on the conditions it will belong to the state, that is , people will live there temporarily, and maybe such a
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way eh. of course, in the first place should to provide housing for people because if you return to ukraine and you have no housing at the same time and no opportunity to earn money in order to rent housing, then such people will not return to ukraine, they most likely, realizing that after all, europe offers european countries offer them housing and social assistance, and if the children are lucky enough to find a job , then in this case people will stay there. let's see how this mechanism will be implemented. why because i also have a question, but i would like to to comment on it before there are specific documents and specific mechanisms, because even those applications for housing compensation are again applications, but who will compensate for the lost property in what way, according to what account, will it be
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compensation in money or will it be e- is a living space, that is, only when there will be a final document in which it will be indicated accordingly and the appropriate mechanism will start working, then we will talk about how realistic this is because , after all, it means for people to lose their own housing together with housing, some people lost all their property that was in these apartments, so there is some kind of speculation, because we would not like to do, or let's say, evaluate this moment negatively, i would really like this issue to be resolved for them in a positive way and people had would er let's say a roof over their head where they could at least temporarily be and in time then receive compensation or housing in order to a-a continue to live normally hmm and we know with you what about a large-scale invasion because i always
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i emphasize that for me this is not the 71st day, but the war has been going on since the 14th year anyway, uh, i will still emphasize this and that in ukraine 45+ it was already difficult to find a job even before the large-scale invasion so when it was really extremely difficult for people 45+ to find a job ah yes well, again, here the question is not even only 45+, but here the question is that i have a question for the government before that ah do you understand the problem that there will be millions of unemployed people in ukraine, and these unemployed people have no market to offer them suitable work and these people will have a serious problem. what program do you offer? housing is good , but it would be much better if people had a job. what will you do? i think that at the
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moment it is very important. and there is training for such people, understanding that the state will not provide him accordingly such conditions do not create work for far from everyone, and furthermore, issuing social assistance will also be quite costly in general for the state, it is unlikely that it can be ensured, but still, for example, launch various programs for them free training on the types of work that can be done remotely, it is interesting, for example , offering services for europe, for the united states, to go to such sites as an aborker, as a freelancer, and to provide services, perhaps some advertising, translation, design , programming, for today, this is a photo processing site, and so on, that is, these sites create very favorable conditions for ukrainians, but
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ukrainians naturally need training, here you are now. for example, some are now there as forced migrants, and it would be good if the state would offer them free or even encouraging some steps so that they regret such studies. and also, for example, i think that it is very important for us to study foreign languages, in particular in english, a bonus or some kind of i don't know payment can be paid if a person, for example , passed english at p1b2 realistically, of course, and in such a case, these people will communicate better with the outside world and contribute to having the opportunity to earn there at the moment, if someone thinks, for example, that this will contribute to the departure of such i don't think so about citizens abroad. ukrainians mostly love their country and want to return to it, but they want to
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return to that case. and when they have a job to return there and there is no housing and no job. well, this is definitely problematic and they long they won't be able to stand it, that is, we will have to look for something to solve this issue panel. i have some more, er, certain information, i will voice it. you will also comment on it about the fact that ukraine is ready to stop the transit of ukrainian gas if europe decides on the rejection of it this was announced by the chairman of the verkhovna rada committee on energy andriy gerus , he emphasized that ukraine buys gas on the european market and the absence of contracts with gazprom for the supply of blue fuel is a principled position well, we already know the position of poland, and we know that poland has already found a way out from this situation well, this is a difficult issue for us, but we are , in principle, discussing this for europe, but we must
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understand that if there is no transit, then in this case the flow of west to the east into ukraine must be significantly increased because for now we are working precisely on transit when we take the gas that is transported by ukraine and do a virtual reverse by purchasing it from other countries . in e-e directly in the pipe well, that is also a question for us and again, the government, like european countries, should not just make political statements that we will block and also how ukrainian enterprises will work, of course how they will ukrainian enterprises will work from what sources and how, where will we have these agreements because, for example
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, european countries that are now looking for gas replacement, they are writing to replace gas with russian gas for another from e-e for themselves, for their economies, concluding the appropriate agreement and there will be no gas for ukraine i.e. they will provide gas to themselves to prepare precisely the question that the government, if it makes such statements, that it should also look accordingly for the possibility of supplying gas through various terminals and for ukraine when it gave agreements but as we see that there is only political statements, but there are no real steps to solve this issue in the same way as the european issue, or the europeans, they substitute for themselves, but for ukraine, there may not be gas . the fact
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that you joined our broadcast, i would like to talk about the storage we have so that we can, but ilya schadovsky was not on our broadcast, thank you very much. take care, he and red cross sent another rubber convoy to evacuate from azovstal there. it should arrive on friday morning, that is, tomorrow. this was announced by un deputy secretary general martin griffinz at the conference of donors to help ukraine in warsaw , which we just talked about with mr. midla yesterday as part of the mariupol humanitarian corridor 344 people were evacuated, all of them arrived in zaporizhzhia, however, to escape from mariupol and nearby villages , the details are more difficult.
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two sisters, vera and nicole, also told their story. let's see the plot. now they go to rallies and fight on the information front in social networks so that everyone knows what is happening in mariupol, and the whole world helped to save the people who remained in the blocked and virtually destroyed city of the 21-year-old nicole and her sister vera with their 4-year-old son managed to get out of mariupol. on april 1, they spent 38 days under constant shelling, hiding in the basement. shells exploded right next to their house. he was a because now they are safe and they are worried about their
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relatives who are still there with the mother of the daughter, they didn't even have time to say goodbye to the gallery, it is impossible to go to the gallery and watch any photos or videos there where we are laughing, this is just some kind of suicide you just look and heart they burst into tears and you can't understand why at some point there is no communication with your mother, grandmother and brother, although the sisters managed to find out that they are alive. the last time they spoke to their mother was in april, when she called from an unknown number and then the calls stopped, i say, please , choose yourself, we have chosen all this. well, this is not true. what they tell you, and it is very difficult to live in an information blockade, because they do not have a radio, there is no access to information, they
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only hear what they are told. the occupiers of the leadership and command of donetskoy narodnoi respublika guarantee your safety and protection . they do not respect russian propaganda. the earth poured down, the hellish road with stops in the occupied cities took several days, they do not wish this to their relatives, they say that they got out by a miracle, i really want them to get out by a different path than we did , because we went, uh, just to the brink of life and death, and miraculously, they got out too could not go through the whole city together with us, just in the hope of surviving, hoping to become free, hoping to return to peace and at the same time even leave our relatives.
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at some point they will take their bag trevozhny smodanchik and go there and somehow they will choose through the city nicole - she says that every day she and her sister live with the news and despite everything they believe in victory when they meet their relatives and raise the ukrainian flag on the roof of the building, how about that dreams of their grandmother now, when i ask a question , how do you imagine the first day of victory, how do you imagine a meeting with your relatives, i just can't find words and i immediately want to cry because it would be the biggest part menya but at the moment so that my loved ones will be nearby. well, i must also mention that heavy fighting is going on at the azovstal plant itself. the azov regiment was informed about this. we know that the enemy is using aviation and artillery. well, everything that is actually possible, and despite
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the heavy fire, our defenders are holding the defense and they released a new video. let's watch and listen . well, i think that our viewers have also seen this terrible video for the first time, and despite the fact that here we see, despite the fact that they are being bombarded non-stop , they are simply storming non-stop. this azovstal, our soldiers remain there among
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our soldiers eh, in particular, among the azov residents and marines, there are also seriously wounded soldiers who say that there is no medicine, that there is not enough anyway i watch it every day. at least i am subscribed to azov in the telegram channel. i watch it every day. every morning we start with the fact that i watch a new appeal about what the guys are asking for. someone he will be able to come to an agreement with someone and they will be able to organize this corridor, but to believe these people, i mean the russian federation, unfortunately, it is not possible. i am on the direct line with us right now, pavlo rozenko , vice president of the red cross in ukraine, mr.
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pavly. my greetings to you. i wish you a good evening. mr. pavlo, we literally showed the story so short when the two girls still managed to evacuate, managed to get out of mariupol from this hell, but there are still a lot of people left at the azovstal plant, and in particular our military personnel, and we have information that the red cross has sent another rubber convoy to evacuate from azovstal. how is this at all possible? how is it possible at all? i have a question as to how it is possible to evacuate people and help our military. well, first of all, to evacuate people, the side of the russian federation must ensure a ceasefire and the creation of this humanitarian
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corridor so that people can leave azovstaria and safely evacuate. the second question is, of course, that azovstal is the nerve that is followed today not only by ukraine but by the whole world, but let's not forget that there is also the city of mariupol itself, where tens of thousands of people can not evacuate from this city precisely because they are actually physically prevented from evacuating in the territories today under control over the ukrainian authorities, so i think that the issue here is much broader, how can people be evacuated, civilian personnel, wounded servicemen from azovstal, and how to ensure a
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humanitarian corridor for people from mariupol because i think that it is no less important because the state of mariupol and the humanitarian catastrophe that mariupol is in today, this situation is already obvious to everyone and definitely the violation of humanitarian law with which we observe when people today are actually deprived of the basic means of life in mariupol, and they, on the other hand, are not given the opportunity to leave it, this is definitely a shameful story and all international organizations and the authorities of ukraine. i think that much more should be done in order to really take people out of mariupol. okay, you say it as a
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politician. well, let's say it. as a former politician, you say that the government should do as much as possible. which of the world leaders can be involved? i mean, there are very few world leaders that you were russian federation to still help the people in mariupol and still to help our military who maintain the defense there already to this day, in fact, everyone was involved, starting with the presidents of the countries and ending with the pope. but i think that the the fact is that during the last three or four days it
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was possible to evacuate. vehicles , that is, the pressure must be continued at all levels , starting with international organizations and ending with the presidents of various countries, in order to really organize a permanent humanitarian corridor of the biofield and really, so to speak, that there are no shortage of people who were taken out, it is good that hundreds were taken out, but the only goal is to take out tens of thousands of people who today are in a state of humanitarian disaster there in the city of mariupol , you know, after all, when i talk about world leaders, we saw a wonderful and wonderful
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attitude and to the un as well as how all of ukraine was red from the fact that sirens were sounding all over the country and when i talk about world leaders, i still talk about erdogan rather and i think that the ukrainian authorities should pay attention on mr. erdoğan and somehow i don’t know how to ask to put pressure on him, because he is the person to whom it seems to me that putin should listen to him and maybe by the sea, see, of course, our emotions are that we all want you and the presidents of various countries and international organizations worked more effectively in the current situation, that is, they helped more in the current situation, but we ourselves understand that it is extremely difficult to work with a country in this case, the russian federation, which grossly violates all the conventions of the organization
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of the united nations, which does not respect them, and it is not even about what is going on, there are agreements with separate letters with separate public organizations 1.5 months ago, a resolution of the united nations was adopted, which was supported, if i am not mistaken, by more than 140 countries of the world, this is a general resolution, and especially the un, this is the largest joint federation, mr. pavlyk. i apologize, but the russian federations and violets understand the country as a country . you can't give up, you can't, but you have to press from all sides, it means you have to involve more o good
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, the un secretary general came, he came to ukraine , he came to russia, it gave some results, it means we need to work more actively at the un site, it means we need to collect more and more from the this coalition, which will really put pressure on mariupol on at least one issue, nevertheless, i will insist on what i propose to gather then from the world and put pressure on mr. erdogan, well, you understand , with all due respect to the turkish leader, but from him today the outcome of the evacuation from mariupol depends so much, but still the decision is taken by one person today it is vladimir putin and today he actually today i think he is personally blocking the
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issue of the removal of the people of the world here there may be different motives and political motives and some geopolitical motives about people from a clear annual opinion, but this today is the only person who, in my opinion, clearly bears personal responsibility and does everything to prevent the deportation of people from occupied mariupol. tell me, please, sir pavlo, because when we say that it is still necessary to constantly talk about this and share it, and with this strength, this heart, it is still the people of mazovia who hold this defense firmly, and who say that they help the civilian population, who say that there is very little water
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left, and who say that there is little medicine, or is there any possibility for the red cross to still deliver i don't know. maybe there are some kind of drones or drones will also go astray like that look from the red cross today , russian troops are not allowing humanitarian aid for civilians to civilian residents of mariupol, that is, they are going to have the opportunity to do this, and there are all the possibilities of the red cross in the united nations and other humanitarian organizations today to form these echelons of humanitarian aid they are there, they are ready to bring civilians to mariupol. if international organizations are not allowed to help civilians today, then what are we talking about history, but here
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i think that including talking about the fact that it is necessary to observe the conditions of waging war, which are also written down in the geneva conventions as a humanitarian right, which we constantly talk about at the un, and at least to withdraw from the territory of azov, to give the opportunity to withdraw the children of wounded and seriously wounded soldiers, this is humanism yes, these are the rules of war, these are also the opportunities that must be tried to apply, and that is why i think that it is also possible and necessary to concentrate on this, i know that at all levels such conversations and such negotiations are conducted, and god forbid so that those people who really need medical help and in a timely manner are definitely provided with the red cross - this is an organization that can either
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provide on-the-spot first emergency medical aid or facilitate evacuation on the basis of programs from the territory of the plant, mr. pavlo was heard. thank you for joining our broadcast. pavlo rozenko was just on our broadcast. for me, these and the marines remain heroes, and still, the azov soldiers who are currently in mariupol. well, god forbid. well, everything will be tomorrow. that's how it turned out, we watch the news and return to our broadcast, we will still have interesting guests mykhailo mykhailo prytula, a military expert was in touch with us, the next hour begins and we want to give the floor to the news olga butko, we will convince , we will outplay, we will win that you are not news, together we are
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