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there are many such jungles and this process is irreversible, and i want to move on to the next topic and i don’t know. maybe someone has already seen the tv channel tr or maybe somewhere on youtube he recorded a video of an appeal to the president. of the turkish republic of recep tayyip erdogan and perdogan, a doctor who treats people in azovstal, he is of kremlin origin, and he turned to erdogan, and he turned to our rtr tv channel, we translated it into operational turkish language, made those three in turkish, i suggest watching this video now, they are dying someone the remote control is hungry, the lady has numbers in the carriages, because of the shortage of medicines and terrible conditions, we have no time, and i don’t know if you are me tomorrow, i’m a crimean tatar, i
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’m a muslim. than he helped people, but it hurts me to watch people die in their arms simply and for lack of antibiotics in 2022, when their wounds are constantly bombarded from the air of the sea and land i am wrong to carry out the procedure for the withdrawal of all people , including the military, from the territory of azov, they stopped this nightmare just 263 km from you across the sea and destroyed people who are only defending their lands. they want to collect your land and kill people. turkey and ukraine have always supported the attitude test and each other supported each other. your country has a large weight in the
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politics of our region. i turn to you. i believe that the exile will not leave our gods, and you will help us. i believe that at the expense of everyone who will participate in this today, i do not remember what day the war is, someone is dying of hunger. such an appeal straight from azov became a crimean tatar doctor, and it is precisely on this topic that i want to start our conversation with liza, a military member of the people's deputy of ukraine - a member of the inter-factional association of the crimean platform of peasants, maleykom , lisam. good day. greetings, lizochka, say whatever dear, what do you know, what have you heard about the process of rescuing people, military wounded, civilians for azovstali, which is now being destroyed, stormed by the enemy and stormed by the enemy, do you
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think it can help turkey, or can it be the unification of some countries or some other countries in this process, because here we can't waste time, well, it's clear what's happening there, well, the process is going very hard, we all see it, we see that they are constantly being shelled to death, er, putin's desire to make people die for various reasons no ukrainians there was strength for us to be tired eh for us to see it seemed like an atrocity but i am convinced that this will not happen because we are very strong and we see it every day to president erdoğan because i am convinced that turkey can play a very
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positive role in helping us end the war, but i am actually not very optimistic about the coming days because we understand that the coming days will be very difficult because the 9th question is approaching for putin , this is a very important date. he wants to show how strong he is, to conquer and destroy part of ukraine, so i don't think that we should set ourselves up for something easy . to do as much as possible , of course, communication with our international partners, and to be honest, spirituality should probably help a lot now, praying to different religions, e.e. christianity, today is a holiday, it is st. george's day. that saint who defeated the evil one and we really need
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it right now he really needs to defeat this evil lisa i want to ask another uh about uh how we are supported uh different countries well we understand someone does that someone does that and here is turkey and on which we hope, and well, on mediation, on which we at least hope. yes, it is. well, some people there, uh, are developing plans for uh, tourist business with russia, just during the displacement of ukraine, and president zelenskyi already said about it, uh, and what do you think you can maybe it is necessary. i do not know the parliamentary address to the turkish parliament, for example, to the turkish language, i don't know business to society, in the end, regarding this, well, it's simple, it's simple, no, no, it's obscene, in my opinion, i completely agree that it is necessary to meet at every door as much as possible, but the situation is not only with turkey , i literally yesterday i had a conversation with a very er
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person who represents austria in a very high position, where i was told that it is not possible to include er embargo because then there will be a revolution in austria and it will be very bad and the russians in general also suffer from this unfortunately after 70 days of war, we still continue to have discussions. we have to prove something to someone. well, it is very, very painful . as the world is changing, we are very strongly supported by different societies and different governments, you can feel it and see how it changes, although, for example, we are not always satisfied with the
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positions of some states, but we see that they are changing their position and are looking for alternatives for example, with their economic ties with russia, new contracts are being signed, it's happening, it's happening faster than they could have imagined, we just don't have time and it's very painful for us because every day we lose people, we lose the infrastructure of life and there is a lot of pain, but we will win, we are very strong lisa i want to ask separately about the position of georgia and i want to ask you to comment on this, well, in my opinion, a very inappropriate political and diplomatic scandal between georgia and ukraine in this particular time and at the same time additionally the question about the condition of mykhailo saakashvili, that he is passing on some of his words from prison regarding russia's war against ukraine, this
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also happened more critically in the last days because mykhailo saakashvili almost now does not speak, does not walk and is in a critical condition, he he has survived several hunger strikes and now his health is so good. how was he not treated? well, it has already reached such a state that it is a question of either a fatal end or a disability or a miracle or transferring him abroad for treatment but this is not happening, only bullying is happening, they say that he is healthy, such statements are heard from the government of georgia and they say that it is actually just that zelensky sent saakashvili to make war in georgia, it is very scary because, unlike ukraine, georgian society is not so strong
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now and they are very popularized, they are afraid, they are afraid of russia, ukrainians are not afraid, mykhailo very strongly supports ukraine, he is convinced that there will be a victory, and he always has a very strong political intuition. i know that he is right, but the situation is now critical and now it is very important that everyone does not remain silent and does everything possible to save life, we are not talking about the political life of mykhailo saakashvili, we are talking about his physical life in general. if mykhailo saakashvili allegedly wants to commit suicide, then he has such a right, such statements are openly made by representatives of the georgian authorities, it is very scary, but this may indicate that they just want to give a gift
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to putin because he, mikhail saakashvili, is putin's personal prisoner and his stay in georgia is a danger for putin, that's why we all have one fight, we all need strength, we need prayer, we need weapons, we need different resources and, of course, we need faith that we will win and i really want it to take less time than it is now, because when it is already the 72nd day, it is very difficult, but that's okay, we will harden our will and we will definitely win the lady of the forest, well, continuing the issue of georgia, yesterday kurt walker special representative the former us on issues of settlement of the russian-ukrainian conflict in donbas stated made a sensational statement, i think, said that georgia
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is no longer a regional leader and in the west with nadia, new elections are expected in this country, next is a direct quote from kurt volker, georgia is no longer a leader, many years ago we spoke that georgia is the best prepared for joining nato or even the european union, now everyone sees georgia as a country whose democracy has turned back end of volker's quote well, he explained the reasons for this said that georgian democracy was affected by the quality of the elections held, the opposition's decision not to go to the parliament, the ignoring of the charles michel agreement . your forecast, your word please. georgia, unfortunately, declares one thing and does something completely different, and it is precisely the case with ukraine where we see that georgia has not introduced any sanctions against russia, that georgia continues to trade with russia
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showed the world that georgia is actually pro-russian and that government, which er, also various er, journalistic investigations and not only recently showed additional connections of the current ruling elite of georgia, the georgian oligarchy, with the russian oligarchy, and everyone in the west knows this very well and is now going talks about sanctions that should be introduced not only against russian oligarchs, but also against these people who are pro-russian in various countries, and we see that in ukraine it is happening successfully, in georgia it is not so fast is happening because everything is now going to ukraine but nevertheless, for me such a statement by kurt volker is not a coincidence, we understand that the world knows
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in fact that georgia is pro-russian and this is very dangerous because russia will simply use the territory of georgia and the entrance to the black sea in order to occupy more territory, more countries, to launch more missile strikes, and not only because of this, of course, i am convinced that the actions are taken against the government that is now in order to put pressure on, and still, about the western way and democracy and human rights it will happen more quickly now, but the georgian government is very pro-russian at the moment, they are just very nice. it was veiled that many people believed that in fact when they apply, for example, to join the european union, this is really what they want, so we are waiting, but the situation in georgia,
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i would say catastrophic. please tell me about the elections that the volker group says are planned. what do you know about when they are scheduled for the president and the parliament and whether they can be premature? riots that are very, very restraining georgia, a lot of people are sitting in prisons, it is very difficult to hold a rally in georgia because almost everyone is packed, you know it is like a friend of belarus, which we did not really know about, because for us always georgians were people who have a lot of freedom, they protect their freedom, but in fact, now there is such a regime that is authoritarian there and there is no
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freedom there, especially freedom like in ukraine, so i do not expect elections in the near future. falsified as in the fall, we even counted with such simple means that there are many polling stations, there are very few observers, and to falsify in one polling station, for example, there are 10 musicians , it was not necessary for them to falsify it at all , and therefore, in this way, they get the result that the pro-government majority of georgia needs it. it is very dangerous, that's why the planned elections, which should take place in a few years, are actually not a way out, it's pressure from society and, of course, the international community and the example of ukraine
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it is very important because we are very connected thank you very much eliza unfortunately it's true unfortunately it's true i talked to geleva vasaza yesterday who also said that ukraine protected moldova and georgia and azerbaijanis and other countries even in central asia but unfortunately, we do not see such support from georgia, but apart from the georgians who are just now fighting at the front for us, the georgian legion , the rest of the citizens are thousands of people, and now we are in direct contact with the east of ukraine , our colleague, the second comrade, the brother pavel kazarin pavlo the villager good day good day to everyone anton what is he here we were discussing maybe you have heard the er tears of the army er the positions of different countries regarding ukraine and shameful by the way well the really shameful position of georgia and what can you say about your analytical opinion regarding the support of e- by different countries in different ways and to
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different degrees in our country, what does it depend on ? some have a sincere and direct position, while others have a very hybrid one, such as turkey, yes , they encourage tourists there, etc. well, you know there is such a thing the principle that it is not possible throw stones when you're in a glass house in 2008 after the russian invasion of georgia i remember from the sociological polls of the rozmkov center that were conducted somewhere about two weeks after the russian georgian war ended and then i now uh about i will mention the numbers there, but there are 30. there, approximately 33% considered georgia to be guilty, 33% considered russia to be guilty, and another 30 percent, relatively speaking, believed that both sides were guilty
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. you know the russian invasion of georgia with a position and everything is so unambiguous, that is, when we now say that someone in the world does not pay us the attention that we think we deserve, it is worth remembering that 14 years ago we acted in the same way in relation to georgia. and for example, remember 2008 in 2010, russia invaded georgia, and in 2010, the presidential elections were held in ukraine, so this is the georgian context, which i had either in the program of viktor yanukovych or in the program of yulia tymoshenko, that is, no one said that it was necessary to strengthen army because look what happened to the neighboring country, no one even told us that we need to, i don't know, it's urgent to defend ourselves from russia there, because look what it did in georgia. no
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, that's why now, when we're trying to be holier than the saints, it's not very eh- well, to be honest, it is polite to those who became victims of the russian invasion earlier than us. and as for how other countries react, well, you know, i will tell you frankly, we, for example, when the events took place in belarus and when those people who came out to protest against it well i don't really remember such a widespread but widespread movement in ukraine, like let's give up belarusian products, let's stop buying fuel, oil products in belarus, i repeat. that is, you know, we stopped. i understand the supply only when our war began. that is, you you know, when tragedies
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happen in the lives of other countries, we usually come out of the position of our own interests and say, well, we are a small country. we do not have a very big economy, we must first of all take care of our own citizens about well-being, we live so hard. and when something goes wrong with us, we demand that everyone act 100% in our favor. well, it doesn't happen like that, and when we become part of a united europe, we must also be ready for the fact that we will have solidarity responsibility that we will introduce some solidarity sanctions that will harm our country, we will accept refugees just like everyone else, regardless of how someone will perceive it all in our country, because we have not only rights, we also have responsibilities and if we did not use our responsibility
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100% in the past years, now we should not throw stones in a glass house, we are now looking in a certain sense into a kind of mirror. to the east, the local female relatives, well, the wives, probably the mother's sisters, came to the local military commissariat and held a small picket meeting there on otaki, breaking partial windows of this of the military commissariat, your unit has now also been transferred to the east, how do you think you should explain to ukrainian citizens that the parliament has already voted on this, among other things, the corresponding changes to the legislation that the territorial defense units are tasked not only to protect their own, their own city, their
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own region, but also in case if necessary, they can be involved in different regions of ukraine where there is a nato military need, there may be a lack of communication with the citizens that we were asking about the military teams on february 25, we knew from the beginning that teroboron units will be used not only in the city where they were equipped, and i think i say frankly that i know many lviv guys from ivano-frankivsk opets from uzhgorod guys from drohobych from truskavets who now before served in the east because many units are so they protect our country in the east, even if they were equipped from the beginning in the west, i.e. and now most of the units that go to the east are made up of volunteers .
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if you don't have any desire to go there, you will always most likely find an opportunity to stay at the collection points, in this sense i don't even know if these women mothers would be supported by their own husbands and sons for whom they interceded because they said that yes, you children for our benefit in our interests and so on and so on and so on i generally think that i understand the emotions of a-ah women i repeat there the points eh wives a- ah batteries who are very worried i also have a mother well, my mother and she is very worries about me and i understand ah, how emotionally difficult it is for them to understand that their children were safe yesterday, and then voluntarily went to the east in order to ah take on the
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tasks that they had the opportunity to recruit but i repeat and this is also a story about solidarity responsibility because we are now uh we are now faced with a task that only we can perform if we do not do this work no one will do this work for us and so in this sense i understand emotionally ah such worries of women for their but nevertheless, this is a war and it does not have a different edition than the one usually used by the war itself freedom reports that the russian woman sofia e sapego who accompanied you remember the belarusian blogger roman protasevich, who then, under the guns of the belarusian kgb, i understand, repented and she was detained together with him after the ryanair plane landed in minsk she was sentenced to 6 years in
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the colonies, by the way, she is a citizen of russia. the rudnytskyi regional court gave her 6 years of strict regime under seven articles. the main thing is inciting hatred. well, there is also extremism and other things. articles, how do we get fuel, questions about belarus, different opinions, we talked yesterday in this studio that someone says that participation in belarus is indirectly on the side of russia in the war with ukraine , this is the personal responsibility of lukashenka and his government. for example, i still do not adhere to the version of the position all citizens of russia are to blame for this, this, and this participation. they must also be held responsible for this, that this territory is being hit by rockets, that it was from belarus that they entered the same bucha for mass killings of the civilian population russian troops, if they entered somewhere from
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kursk belgorod, it would probably be a completely different story about the responsibility of the belarusians and the belarusian authorities for what is happening now in ukraine . to search in the following years if we know that yes we know the edition of future a-a ukrainian history textbooks about how this war will be described we know its edition european textbooks with of history, but we cannot even imagine what belarusian history textbooks will write there in 5 years or 10 years ago, because to a large extent it will depend on who they will be perceived by the publicists of the russian federation or vice versa, by a country that was occupied by the russian federation, well, that is, conventionally speaking, there are different scenarios, for example , and germany was somewhere cified, plus, for example,
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it was accepted in our country as a country that was occupied by germany, and that is why the process of nazification and they did not extend to austria, and i think that to a large extent everything will depend on what regime will be established in belarus, whether this will be the more authoritarian regime of lukashenka or putin , will overthrow him and annex these territories to his country. to resist as they did after the so-called presidential elections. i just think that, you know, we ourselves were part of the imperial discourse and also for certain pages of history and we need to turn around and turn around in shame
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the actual past, and in this sense i am more inclined to say that the face of the belarusians is there, i don’t know the battalion of any kalinovsky, and not the people who are in the belarusian general staff, and there they agree on the airfields from which russian planes take off. this is a difficult question. what is the answer? we we cannot give an answer now, history and the perspective of the next five to 10 years will give an answer, if at least you remember the history of 2008, let me remind you that ships from the black sea fleet of russia, which were based in ukrainian sevastopol , fired their missiles at georgia at that time ukrainians should also remember what pavlo pavlo is saying now, these are bloody lessons, lessons that all of us around us have to learn. and just like belarus in belarus, belarusians are fighting for us, georgians are fighting for us despite this shameful government, which is now georgia, personally opinion thank you friend
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saul eh pavlov's side, journalists, the host, our colleague was on the live link well, that's it, here is today's block of our joint broadcast of the espresso channel and the terme channel, we will finish ihor chicherin gives derzhmuzhdabaev, we were with you thank you for your attention now pause, then news from the data in melnyk, stay tuned to the espresso channel, please volunteers from grateful ukrainians, it is important to do what you know how to do, every ukrainian has become a volunteer even one good deed can change the country and the world for the better, i want to thank all the volunteers, everyone who meets you every day you bring us closer to victory, there is no translation for the volunteer family
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