i have some clarity, what is better called a tragic end than a tragedy without an end, on the other hand, we met people who really hoped not to find their loved ones under these conditions. well, once again, it is worth noting that the morgue is not designed for such a large number of bodies, so there really on the territory of the morgue there are industrial refrigerators, and in these refrigerators are the bodies of mr. serhiy, how does the procedure work, well, a person who is looking for a missing relative, what does he have to go through, well, first of all, you need to go to or to website or on the facebook page of the buchanan city council, find the appropriate section and look there, there is a list of those identified. if there is a list of identified people, well, this and that is there, it is already 100% clear where the body is, if there

is no body in the list of identified people, then again you have to go directly to this morgue, i say once again, poleva 15 bucha, and there it is already appropriate to try to take a dna test there, i am clear. now, unfortunately, i cannot say whether these tests are still accepted there, because the program was calculated there for 1-2 days but the number of people was so large that, well , it is very likely that this program was extended, and plus there is also a telegram channel, and again, the buchansk city council and the local tsnap are filling it. there are the remains and a description there found there that there where there is that then that is some circumstances but in fact all these bodies were exhumed there from where they brought it not only there

not only as memorials there and x rubberized those that were found there behind the church bodies there and bodies which they were simply connected to the territory of buchi. whatever bodies were buried there, and not only from buchi, in fact from the entire kyiv region. that is , they worked there according to the preferences of the volunteer brigade. even the public seems to have removed a whole story about such guys. that three were not enough, well, dozens of bodies were simply collected and brought to this pochan morgue. well, in general, the work of the volunteers should be noted, because i must once again admit and repeat that the buchan morgue is simply not equipped for such volumes, and we are volunteers met there is a man there, who is a construction worker at all, or there on the description of the bodies, and there he helped his relatives with

logistics in the city yevhen spirin, our colleague is already the publication of the woman what is happening now in buch, did you mention ivan spirin and i will remember kyril sazonov, our colleague, also in journalism, now in a journalist-political scientist serves in the ranks of the armed forces. what does he write? what is it like to measure a question mark ? on what scale? the eyes set off fireworks with explosions in buch now that people have not yet forgotten about the explosions and small arms shooting at civilians, no , these are really people, a question mark, i am sure of one thing during the shelling, they were not here, but somewhere safe. and now they have returned, and it is sad without explosions and rockets, real men are probably rampaging without such things, the redeployment delayed them, they say one of them is a very influential person in the executive committee or in the

communal sphere of buchi, whether it is the head of the cemetery or the head of all cemeteries in the district. by the way, i would not be surprised by this, there will probably be a fine and the person will return to his important work on other buchanans had to hear a little more real explosions and shots and how do you feel about such stories about which he writes such stories i have a completely negative attitude towards such stories and like the majority there of my environment, but you have to understand that hmm, not all people are going through this war, for many it has already ended. in fact, this is from what i see , for example, in the city of kyiv, returning there somewhere from a business trip from the east. well, you are very strong it breaks the pattern because it flies there almost every day. the guys very often hide in the dugouts, but here, well, there is enough. well, such a civilian. peaceful life in relation to fireworks is a separate issue. it seems to me that it would be worth it somehow

, at least for the time of war i will become tougher, introduce some kind of sanctions against people who start people, because, um, especially in such cities, there is a brick. it would be correct if the local authorities considered the issue of severe punishments for the use of pyrotechnics in these meeting cities, but in kyiv there is no feeling that the war is over and that it is necessary to return to a full-fledged life, including the use of pyrotechnics and of different sats, well , the feeling that the war is over here, i'm saying it's present there, a lot of coffee shops

were open, a lot of people have returned . well, in principle, the influence there at gas stations in the process shows well, but hmm, you have to understand that there are a lot of fighters and they are absolutely not against life being customs. actually, they say that we are at war. but hmm, the main thing is that people who return to a peaceful life and live a peaceful life do not erased the war from their minds, remembered the war, thanks to which, thanks to the high losses, they are able today in the center of kyiv at 9 o'clock in the morning to calmly drink coffee, that's why if there is such an understanding and a person remembers it, then there is nothing wrong with myrny there is no life, but if you just know where it caught fire somewhere in the uzhhorod boiler and then we came to kyiv, he runs around the streets, listens to music loudly, gets drunk to the point of snot, smokes hookahs, here is a big question, mr. serhiy, we spoke

today with the mayor of okhtyrka, uh, this is a city. it is not it was under occupation, but it was good, the orcs were nearby and they were firing well. he says that the people were divided into those who were under fire. i felt some special such atmosphere or peculiarity of the people in connection with what they experienced and what they saw, in particular, this number of people killed in buchi, every fifth resident who did not leave and who was in the occupation was shot or tortured, so this is common psychological trauma is felt there, people don't talk so loudly hmm there are no fights in the shops there in the queue and so on, i.e. here in the world, what a

hard imprint and on the pooch there and on irpen this is this story she left of course there are people who do not were in a-a well, there were no occupations that returned there from somewhere and they react to hm in a completely different way in reality, they live a little louder in a completely different way, but still, in general, this is the atmosphere, it is preserved if we specifically say awakening, well and here you need to understand that i think you will agree with me if you have relatives who are not in kyiv right now, it is very difficult for them to explain why it is not worth staying in kyiv now, especially in the period from may 8 and with the trend that stored until at the end of the month well, it's just difficult to explain to them that i sent my grandmother to a not safe place on

february 28, and in about two weeks she's already rattling my windows there on vasylkiv, then i went out rattling and pouring and she calls me and says i have to go back to kyiv, uh, you can’t even be a person. now, masha can do a little bit so that she can fly to kyiv, that in kyiv, the use of such and such weapons is stored there, so how many minutes, mr. sergey, this project is a ukrainian witness. so you are gathering history there, i understand we talked to witnesses, what is this story that most impressed you, if we talk specifically about the enemy of buchansk, er, um, he talked to one woman, it’s not. this kind of conversation with clear reasons was included in our video because the woman did not even give permission for filming but the story is that the woman was looking for her sister and her

nephew a-a her dna signature does not fit because in order to do a dna test it must be relatives of the first circle, i.e. parents or children and first of all they gave the opportunity to do a dna test but it it was likely that they would be found. well, it will give results, and she was looking for her sister and nephews who were in this very house, which is the largest in the world, and of which there are two columns left. here and there she sits and says , and i understand on the one hand that there is little possibility that the body was left because the letter says a direct hit and it is obvious that there are simply no remains left, but on the other hand it says i don't know how to serve now, how to look for them now and in general how to accept the fact that it is possible for me not even was to bury serhiy, thank you for the work you are

doing and collecting, by the way, how many materials do you already have from this ukrainian witness, and remind me why you are doing this, as of now , more than 120 materials have been collected completely different there there are several formats, there are documentary portraits and just portraits in themselves, there are short documentary forms like we did in the morgue in buch, there are some videos from the front, uh, we tried streaming, that is, we are trying to develop the project and what is all this for in order to document this war in order that eventually there would be some kind of public archive that would allow you to at least partially reconstruct all the events that took place, or at least part of them that

took place with the beginning of the russian aggression, because if you recall there 13-14- and a year from there, the stories are very telling, fragmentary, not always high-quality, and there it is scattered. so, in the archives of all tv channels, we basically do it all for free, we do it all in general, and any tv channel, any media, can use our the product is free, but you can help to find your details ukrainian witness - this is a project come back alive yes as far as we understand here it is necessary to understand that we only have a father come back alive vitalik deinega is our icebreaker and in general we are a little dependent on one from one, that is, still separate about the project thank you sergey, well, it is important to save this chronology in order to later restore it and remember it, because we still say never again , unlike our crazy neighbors who say we

we can repeat it, and this has now come out. serhiy melnychuk is a ukrainian witness for the project, he is its co-founder, and they record online crimes that are happening now. but after may 9, i.e. after tomorrow, the residents who left can gradually return. he said this in an interview with radio nv . for the time being, the people of kyiv should not rush to return to kyiv , given the danger, the target of the aggressor was and remains the capital, said klitschko, he warned of a large number of landmines in the suburbs and park zones, it is important to guarantee safety quote we cannot yet, but after may 8-9, we will be able to return little by little to the capital, the mayor said, according to klitschko, the number of people who returned to kyiv is calculated based on

how many mobile phones are visible in the range of communication antennas in kyiv, this is interesting. see how statistics are being calculated now. the local government registers the overnight stay of about 2 million two hundred thousand kyivans. this is the number of 2 million 200 people who have already returned to the capital. if we have dmytro galko. yes, i called you dmytro galko correctly, and you just found this grandmother, who is a symbol of russian propaganda, now we will see her through the videos in which she was filmed on this very video. she came out to the meeting of the ukrainian military with the flag of the soviet union, here we see this grandmother actually cursing the russian army because of the destroyed house, well , this is already known later, but the russians

recorded it and filmed it, and even such a meme spread on social networks, mr. dmytro, what kind of grandmother is this, where are you from where and why did she come out with this flag, this is anna ivanovna ivanova, she is a resident of the village of velyka danylivka, to understand it, it is not far from the crickets, er, recently only the russian troops retreated from there, er, there literally a kilometer from her house, the positions of the russians were, this village was constantly shelled, in fact, anna ivanovna and her husband, they were the last to start in this village, so the shelling was just on er, regarding the recent security basis, it was constant. and she was in an information vacuum, she actually did not she knew what was happening in the country, she knew very little, not only about ukraine, even what was

happening in kharkiv, and as she explains, at least now she went to the russian troops, as she thought, in order to protect her home to protect one's property, so that it would be possible to come to an agreement in peace, not that she is like this. well, let's show the heroine, uh, this. and on ivanovna, you say that, anna ivanovna, and then you explain us and my celebrities so that i just think who will congratulate

the russians who came to say that they should no longer bully here and resolve the issue peacefully, says anna ivanovna, a traitor, so that there will be no war, dmytro, please continue your comments, yes, they are really some illusions that everything can be solved peacefully that either she or mr. zelensky can do something there so do it and it’s all over, what on ivanovna and what kind of flag did she have in the soviet union? yes , yes, yes . he fought or what, in fact, and her parents were ostarbeiters, and if they were ostarbeiters, and even if the father was

later taken to the army, then he was no longer during the war. that threw that flag somewhere in the barn. by the way, nobody in she didn't take this flag away from her, she said. she just threw it away and now who needs it somehow , so she says she didn't keep it for how many years, mr. dmitri? well, what can you say, what are the reasons for anna ivanovna's behavior if they stayed? they probably hoped to the end that well, everything will be fine. how can we agree with them ? is this opinion indicative? first of all, it's just a lack of awareness. this person really was in an information vacuum. and in this region, many people trusted him. - is russian propaganda, but you know mina, who got to her

in the yard, she changed her opinion significantly, let's just say, and everything she learned was a special experience about all these crimes, er, it also affected her very much. she just saw how she looked at everyone these videos, photos, she just sat there, everything was already in ink, she couldn't believe what she was, and these words, what and what she already said about russia and completely different words, uh, you could see that it was sincere, uh, she was really shocked so this person lives mostly in the past, she was born in the 53rd year er, she is the same age as stalin's death, er, she lives in the past when she was young and the grass was greener and all that other stuff, but i wouldn't say that she is some kind of ideological person there and is hostile to ukraine. this is absolutely not the case, i remembered it right away. when the

film crew asks the old grandfather in the village when it was better to live now or with sovetskaya vlasenko. of course, with sovetskaya, vlad said what to my grandfather, and because i was young, but what is really interesting in this story is that dmytro, who is actually the same grandmother met even the russian occupiers she went to the ukrainian military and even got confused with the russians, she went out with this flag, and on this the whole legend of the russian world , which is now very actively used , is broken. there they already made her out of plastic, well, not her portrait, but also a plastic sculpture. so, next to this sculpture, no, no, look at this photo. look at oleksiy holobusky, our expert political scientist, wrote a very interesting post and, er, to this photo if can we find two pioneer women and this plastic monument brought from moscow was made

in a hurry and was written by oleksii the next mariupol and how is it a plastic monument linden babushky she in kharkiv all otvitsaet linden pioneers with faces drinking shoulders well shoulders you know here such women are easy social behavior of those who work on the track, well, this photo from mariupol is also a lot to talk about, how much the russian world is already starting to use this image if it is just made of plastic well, i think that soon the implementation will be in bronze, here dmytro, how much do you think this image will be used now during mass events in russia? tomorrow, please. well, i would. i see that our report so seriously undermined their mythology and it caught fire, as if from a volcano of some kind. but after that. as the report appeared, the ministry of defense of russia just announced some

hospitals the next morning, and they realized that she was somewhere in the hospital, and there are actually military personnel both in kharkiv, so you can expect everything, you can expect strikes on hospitals in kharkiv, and also some deputy of the russian state duma, it was announced that the russian special forces have used them. well, this grandmother is in danger and they don't need her alive and they don't need anna ivanovna ivanova. they need this myth. they need this. they are probably ready themselves and kill there, mummify, and i don’t know, send anything to space, that’s why they see if we need to save because she’s a ukrainian citizen, she’s on our citizens and there, like their myths, on the example of this story in particular, how do you

do it? how can you do it? every ukrainian well because they still produce the myths they need. look, luckily for us, like the drowning man, they just grasped at straws. they just didn't find anyone. they have no one to lean on. this is the only grandmother, and the one who turned out to be just a fake you always have to search, you have to find out the truth, you have to show this truth and spread it as much as possible, this is a simple recipe, a very simple recipe for the given truth, one is to search for the truth and show it really. thank you . yes, and in particular in the occupied territories, because well , there were reports that the houses of culture there were special instructions to hold concerts and all that, the

rest will be, well, just an incredible wave of uh, all of this, we know their uh, traditions, the culture of celebrations, and the children are dressed up and that's it in the world and it will now partially spill over into the temporarily occupied territories, how do you feel about it personally for me from the very beginning when it started there, it seems in 2004, it was clear what it was leading to and this is actually no memory of what kind of grandfathers? it's just propaganda of war - it's the breaking up of a new war and russia's opposition to the civilized world, and it's just that this connection is direct, it's necessary to understand it, it's necessary to explain to people that it's not about memory, it's not about sacrifices, it's about nothing else except for the fomenting of a new imperial war, the soviet union itself is to blame for that war, too, and he

took part in it from the very beginning, and this understanding must finally come to everyone that this is just propaganda for a new war, but this anna ivanovna is just that are such an indicator of e-e the thoughts of the current russian society, even the young. yes, they are teenagers, children. they think roughly like our anna ivanovna, although , well, ivanovna is already at a rather elegant age, but still ukrainians. they have already gone and come closer to european values, and we the truth is that we are sad now, because these are millions of lives tortured and killed in this second world war. and why did the russians remain at the same level? hmm, even though the documents are all declassified, even in the moscow archive, you were opened, there is a pan-pact molotov-ribbentrop and that the soviet union was also among the instigators, so why don't they want to

see it and don't understand only propaganda i think that the mechanism is psychological, let's say the mechanism is the same that was in germany, uh, when they say the versailles peace, ah, he became a frustration for germany, for the germans, and they also wanted to repeat it. by the way, they repeated it in 39-45, er, and the same mechanism, and here it’s just russia in its current form. it should simply disappear, as germany disappeared er that's all. because this is the empire she can't feel otherwise. and until it is explained to them very clearly, as she once explained to the germans . it's just that there will be relapses again and again. i just wanted to ask how you see the end of this war so that they don't want to

repeat it again. who should explain it to them, you can now see among the e-e countries in the world who has the potential to explain it to them spiritually in general, if you take the coalition that has already formed in fact around ukraine, and it would be enough to explain to them this is it, but you just need to act much more decisively than now and so how many countries are there already? dozens, maybe even hundreds of countries that support us and understand the truth there, the nature of russia and their forces would be enough, we just need to act decisively. for participation, we have a video from the armed forces of ukraine, the armed forces of the ukrainian armed forces, the first peace army, they defeated nazism, we will defeat racism, the

commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine, valeriy zaluzhny, announced this on facebook. never again, unfortunately it's not like that in the center of europe again bloody insidious war, the aggressor of the stage uses the memory and terms of the second world war, but we will stand up, we are the strong armed forces of ukraine, the first army of the world, the squire noted, let's watch this video briefly a-a-a-a-a-a- and layhem brothers solda my strength you my heart

is normal eternal memory of the victims of the second world war glory to the ukrainian soldiers was added by valeriy zuluzh commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine well , let's give some more information, we still have some news. well, let's add information about what today, in addition to what we remember, we remember and mourn for the whole of europe and win, because we now have to win today, mother's day and metropolitan epiphany congratulated ukrainian mothers , and mother, how many meanings and feelings fit into this short word, everything and limitless sacrificial love and goodness and kindness, and he writes about the fact that today is a very difficult time for ukrainian materials, because many people have just said goodbye to their children, and children to their parents, and we have to understand this already only officially, more than 200 dead children in ukraine in this war and we will now have a moment of silence at 9:00 a.m. , we remember all the victims of the war of russia against

ukraine every day. well, let's pray for all the mothers of ukraine, may the lord protect them, he writes an epiphany and he writes that there are no other people's children, now many people are forced to shelter in addition to their own children more precisely, all the children of ukraine are consciously going for it, because all the children of ukraine are our common children, and every life of these more than two hundred is for us an incredible price for this victory, which will still be and we will never forget these crimes of russia in ukraine, we will honor it for a minute silence in memory of ukrainian soldiers and peaceful citizens of ukraine who died in the war started by russia