however, illegally turned off the digital air ukrainian independent tv channels espresso the fifth and direct on the website of the cabinet of ministers of ukraine a petition is registered in which it is demanded to return to the digital air ukrainian tv channels in order to sign the petition first you need to register it is very simple go to the site petition in your gov.ua there go there on the registration tab and enter all your data, say your phone number and email, confirm all your data, enter the code that will be sent to your mobile, create a password will certify that you are not a robot, give consent to the processing of personal data, check all your data again and click the register button to complete the registration, go to your specified email address, where the site letter will arrive click on the link in the letter, which will return you to the petition site, enter any email, password

, enter, return to the main page of the petition site, open the petition about the return to the digital air of the ukrainian tv channels espresso of the fifth and direct press the button to sign the petition, the inscription will appear signed your signature confirmed and taken into account, let's return ukrainian patriotic channels to the digital air together, let's not let freedom of speech be destroyed in ukraine, i'm from irpen, and when the war started, it was february 24. i went outside and already in the sky above the guest house there were russian drones and there was a battle. i'm from sumyshchyna, a village nizhnya serovatka two months ago, none of us could have imagined that small villages in the sumy oblast would become the epicenter of world events together with my family. i

left the town of irpinets, a suburb of kyiv, on the fourth day of the war, on february 27, when i was already in the city the advance units of the russian occupiers were coming in, machine-gun fire could be heard. on the same day, my house was destroyed. it was partially destroyed. you know me as the host of the espresso tv channel. today, i am a displaced person. i am a zerpenya. my city was completely destroyed by the russian invaders. uh, in this studio since autumn, two hours of air time every week. we tried to devote exactly to the topic of war . when western intelligence had already started, and to tell us in detail how putin will kill ukrainians. i don’t i can now return to my hometown, but i had hoped that i would return at least one part of my previous life, this is my favorite job, we

are lucky, my family is now safe and i continued to work where i am needed on the espresso tv channel, but unfortunately on april 4 this in 2016, the state concert of the republic of tatarstan turned off the espresso tv channel from the crooked broadcast of t2 to lviv in order to continue working, but in this current dream, one small dream is not even to return home, but at least to have one normality to work first the russian authorities took away my house and the opportunity to live in my hometown, now the ukrainian authorities are trying to take away from me the opportunity to work in the profession of informing ukrainian viewers, we refute russian fakes, we explain to people where the truth is and where lies, we record the crimes of the russian occupiers in order to

punish them it has not passed, we will certainly stand up because we are fighting for the country of our children, we simply do not have these options, we will stand for so long, so much , please return our broadcasting to ukrainians i am sure that they need us presidents zelenskyi return expresso to the air let's protect the information front together glory to ukraine informational telethon in the studio works for you maria gurska 74th day of war and heroic day salute the ukrainian people to the aggressors may 8 today we celebrate the day of remembrance and reconciliation and russia is preparing for victory day, the celebration of victory day on the blood of ukrainians and under the banner of genocide and crimes against humanity on our land , we will now talk about how war changes our

self-identification of historical memory oleksandr zinchenko, historian, journalist, deputy director of the institute of national remembrance in 2014-15. greetings, oleksandr. hello. how can we start with this? on may 9, the occupation authorities of the temporarily captured territories of the luhansk region will rename luhansk to voroshilovgrad for one day. about this was reported by a representative of the so-called lpr, and such a decree was issued back in 2020. accordingly, the name was decided to be used several times a year. it is may 9, june 22. when in russia they celebrate the day of remembrance of the victims of the great patriotic war and february 14, the day of the liberation of luhansk from the german nazis. well, oleksandr, let's start with what you think about it and why it is important for the russian occupiers to speculate on history, we see how they are everywhere temporarily occupied in the territories, they find

monuments to lenin and other bolshevik er soviet criminals somewhere in the basements. renamed to the country of fools, yes, that is, at least for one day, in principle, in principle, this can be extended not only to the so-called lpr, dpr, it could also be extended to the country called the russian federation, that is, to say that it is a country of intelligent people today who will turn his tongue, obviously, all those initiatives are such a simulator, that is, this war is a war of the past from the future, it is a war of the past from the future, and it even manifests itself in the fact that they are trying to, well, what is the key problem in general the russian federation and that political force that has been ruling this country for more than 20 years and that

places its e-proxies everywhere, so to speak, they could not offer any beautiful vision of the future in the new senses absolutely , that is, the only thing they can offer - this is the restoration of the ussr, and when they talk about voroshilovgrad, yes. that is, we are already used to even discussing it. well, we must not forget who voroshilov was. well, i am terribly sorry, but on how many firing lists is his signature for some reason, people forget that he still forgot and the members of the troika, that is terribly sorry, but this is precisely our difference between ukraine and the russian federation and its proxies, if we, for many years, tried to work out this experience of the totalitarian past, they were engaged the glorification of the totalitarian past, and

if we compare the latest sociological studies that we have now, then in the russian federation, according to the data of the levada center last year, the june data of the new newer ones are not yet 60%, russians believe that stalin is cool, that stalin is beautiful, that he is simply the most positive hero in russian history, and the latest sociological studies published in ukraine by a sociological group, the rating of this week, which passes uh, seven percent, that is, 60% of russian federation and 7% in ukraine between us and them at we are trying to work out the totalitarian past we are trying to implement this all humanistic eye all humanistic values ​​and they are trying they have just the opposite opposite vector i.e. if we are proud of the fact that the ukrainians destroyed the evil empire, they want to restore the evil empire, and in this difference

, snyder explains it in a very cool way. here in his book the road to slavery, he says that this is what he calls the formation of the worldview of russians in eternity, which the russian leadership is actually working on, creating these myths, constructing them on the basis of the past , and in fact, the only meaning is to justify their gloomy reality with great victories of the past and future. the usual lies of the oligarchs who put fascist ideas at their service and hm. in this way, as snyder writes, they added to this eternal secret of the russian soul , which all modern historians are thinking about, and in fact it is a willingness to reject the voice of reason in favor of blind arab subjugation with a product heart and emotions and that is, stupidity in essence well, my name is snyder, russia is a fascist christian

totalitarian state, where this is the most interesting thing, as far as i am concerned, totalitarianism is its own internal enemy that hides by attacking others, this is the answer on what is happening with russia, russia is a country of many poor people, the standard of living. i am not talking about the absolute numbers, which are there if you break down the russian macroeconomics into some numbers, the average. well, it can look very beautiful. what if you look at the gdp on per capita in the russian federation, well, it looks beautiful when it comes to the real standard of living, then when all these hawks started coming to us again, it just so happened that i ended up in the occupation for 10 days, i had a fruitful conversation with them, how can i say it it was a very interesting experience because our cottage town is not some kind of santa barbara, it is not switzerland, it is not california. that is,

of course, it is sovereignivka, and it is not a town of severinivka, it is such a normal middle-level for an average class there of course yes, it's obviously not far away again er relatively not far er was was vorzela a little to the south er berezivka yasnogorodka motyzhem about which again the news talked a lot and here they appear they ask what millionaires live here well, how to explain to them that, for example, we simply sold, for example an apartment in the city and bought an apartment in a townhouse in this cottage town. but for them, this is something that is completely beyond their imagination, because if we enter, conditionally speaking, conditionally speaking, beyond the borders of moscow, we see terrible devastation. when they come, they see asphalted streets in the villages, it's a shock for them, they see , er, lamps, er, these are led bulbs, so

they can't understand how this can be in the village . they ask and how many you have such villages, how many do you have in the country, well , people are not lost, they say 36,000, that is, for them, the level of ukrainian life for ordinary russians who came on an excursion to ukraine, so to speak, i am shocked today and they hate us for not giving them actually the state, and actually this is the first question that and on what basis do you live so well , well, that is, as a result, again, who gave you permission? actually, for some reason they think that we should ask them for some kind of permission, that is, again, this is the country of the past that won but as a result this past has won over this country, that is, i am absolutely convinced that in the coming years we will see a certain process of defragmentation of the russian

federation, but everything before this goes completely to this topic , and now we will return to this sociology that you mentioned. it is extremely interesting that she wanted it together analyze in the meantime, the verkhovna rada voted, the president of ukraine, volodymyr zelensky, signed this week the law on the de-sovietization of our legislation. well, the cabinet of ministers was given a mandate for three months carry out deregenization among regulatory and legal documents and develop new labor codes - the labor code, the housing code and the code on administrative services, as one of the experts who at one time launched the process of decommunization, what do you feel in connection with the deregenization of legislation, as well as with this powerful wave of de- sovietization and where is the russification of our toponyms , how successfully is decommunization taking place in your opinion, and where is russification today?

so, on the one hand, i am happy. well, finally, yes , that is, the first reaction on the other hand, well, this is a huge amount of work, that is, there really were a huge amount of work in our legislation . what kind of century do you live in? that is, for some reason, our legislators did not get their hands on this for many years, that is, for many years, thirty years, and on the one hand, it is good that finally this rhetoric will be cleared from there. the rest really didn't have any relation well, it didn't matter but from the point of view well, no legal significance but from the point of view it's symbolic of course it looks like some terrible anachronism and it should have been corrected a long time ago, why was n't it done until today, it's a separate story, by the way the dismantling of this monument , where are the ukrainians and russians, yes, yes, you even

published it in your blog, especially when the head of a russian fell off. on social networks and it really is such a symbolic moment. less, however, when it comes to making changes to such a large and such a large number of documents, then of course you start to worry that there will not be another turbo mode. and as you know, when something happens in turbo mode eh, without proper discussion, it is always well , let's just say, have some not very good consequences, because simply these solutions may not be worked out, no, eh, worked out properly, simply from the point of view of the right of application. that is, eh, this can be a problem. if we talk about already where the russification of our er public space is going er let's say we have a post-imperial syndrome, a post- colonial syndrome, that is, i mean

that many people feel complicit or co-dependent, different people in different ways from the heritage and temporal heritage of the russian empire but what is interesting if in 2000 and 14-15 years, when we were working on this package of decommunization legislation, we again tried to understand how it would work so that it would be impossible to sway any side, we came up with certain procedures, it was important for us that this is the law on the condemnation of totalitarian regimes, and that the state specifies what should not be on, including in the public space in the public space in ukraine, but then the next problem was we made a decision not to interfere in the decisions of the local communities, for two reasons, on the one hand, because, in fact, it was such a cunning way, we did not

talk about it in particular publicly, but we wanted to raise a discussion about who and what surrounds us, that is, which things we are not we notice, because you see now this uh segment, it has filled up automatically, we have metro stations uh heroes of mariupol yes, uh, but let 's talk about it now. proposals and which should be considered , it was precisely this that was found when in 2015 we talked about the need for these changes, what we meant . such because i tell this story all the time. i went to the 112th school of the city of kharkov on voykova street. who is peter boyko? if you read the encyclopedia in the encyclopedia, you could read in the soviet encyclopedia that you could

read that he is one of the first soviet diplomats who was killed by some white guardsman in 1922 in warsaw, all about his complicity in the murder of the murder of the murder of the murder of the lord, my god, tell me, er, romanov, er, nikolai romanov, that is, of the imperial family, well, that is, this is the street, the children of murderers, come on to call it by its names, and that is, when you walk down the street named after the beat killer well , of course, any child has a question: is he a good person or a bad person if a street is called by his name? what is a good person and what good did he kill? of the russian emperor and his children well, this is already starting a kind of schizophrenia , we had a lot of such people, and what kind of situation are we now in ?

slogans of ukrainians are not on time, that is, then we were told many times that it was not on time. it turns out that not only it is not on time, but very on time, and as a result , in 2015-16, we gave such a model of civil behavior when people got involved in it discussion in decision-making at the local level and, accordingly, took responsibility for which streets and which names should appear in the local space in the city space , no decisions were needed anymore because there was already a precedent set and this uh let's say this the practice is when initiative groups appear in communities and start saying, yes, we don't like this pushkinska, let's think about what will happen again instead of this street. i am attentively monitoring the situation in my hometown in kharkiv, moskovskiy prospekt, uh, many people want to

rename it . to izyumskyi shlach this is a reasonable tradition for kharkiv, i.e. sumy street used to be in sumy, and again poltavaskyi shlyach street obviously leads to poltava and kyiv, and gagarin avenue street once again it was called a snake because it led to the town of a snake , and it is logical in this sector, in this situation, that moskovskiy prospect should be renamed again to the izyum road by analogy with the poltava road . a grassroots initiative, and of course i can only be happy because this is an absolutely universal practice. that is, all the big cities that, well, i more or less try to follow them, come up with such initiatives, precisely grassroots civic initiatives, which at the same time are very much supported often and local self-government, this is the effect of our wartime, and we see that in the end

, he probably put an end to these discussions, yes, zhukov or grigorenko avenue, we see that in the end, on april 17, they dismantled the bust of marshal zhukov in kharkiv, well, it was very uh, there was no question uh why and why was it a spontaneous action. that is, it was not, let's say, an action that was coordinated with the local authorities. it's just that the guys said that everything is quite simple, automatic actions, so to speak. let's talk a little about sociology. but before that, eh i suggest that we return to the general topic of may 8 and listen to an excerpt of the address of today's president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi, we will not show it all because it has already been shown on our air several times today. but an excerpt in order to actually feel the atmosphere of today let's listen and

let's move on to the topic of may 8 in ukraine, may 9 in russia, and what our fellow citizens , you and i, ukrainians, think about all this, how does it change us, and how does this war change us and how does it change ourselves identification so, here is an excerpt from the address of volodymyr zelenskyi and let's return to the discussion: can spring become black and white, is there eternal february, or are golden words depreciating, unfortunately, ukraine knows the answers to all these questions, unfortunately, these answers are yes, every year until may 8, together with the whole civilized world, we honor everyone who protected the planet

from nazism during the second world war, millions of lost lives, crippled fates, tortured souls and millions of reasons to say evil. never again did we know the price our ancestors paid for this wisdom they knew how important it was to preserve it and pass it on to posterity , but they also thought it was disgusting that our generation would witness the mockery of words that, as it turned out, are far from being the truth for everyone. well, here we have fresh data from a sociological group survey conducted on april 27. sociologists state that as a result of russia's invasion of ukraine in february 2022, there was a sharp change in the ideological views of ukrainians regarding the markers associated with the aggressor country. well, the first ones are the first ones. such data

show that only 15 percent of ukrainian citizens consider may 9 the day of victory, let's compare since 2018, then there were 58% of them, from now on may 9 is a day of remembrance for 80% of ukrainians, oleksandr. what do you think about it? well, there are still a lot of interesting news, but there have been changes in attitudes, for example, to the ninth of may, and that is -e if 80% previously believed that this holiday, which is personally very important to him, is almost the most there after the new year, relatively speaking, or christmas, and the mind is faster, then when it comes to the results of this study again, then for 30-6% it has become a relic of the past, and for 23%, everyday life is actually the eyes of 36%, about survival of the past is actually a very interesting marker and in this sense, i have a lot of questions for the current

composition of the parliament and ultimately for president zelensky, and in the sense that there was an initiative officially... the attitude of ukrainians to this day, that is, to move the day of commemoration of the end of the war in europe from 9:00 to eight, as it happens in all countries of the world today. why can't we celebrate the day of the end of the war in europe in the 45th year together with europe and not as an example with russia that is, this is such a very uncomfortable question for the current government because i cannot understand the logic because we do not declare any side and we have just heard all these

beautiful slogans about the attitude to this day, we see the attitude of ukrainians that this initiative is sociologically supported, but for some reason this decision does not pass in the parliament and everything remains as it is. that is, we celebrate may 9 for some reason by the russian federation, which is the aggressor in in relation to ukraine, this is some other interesting figure : the absolute majority, namely 87%, do not feel sorry for the ussr. so, what do you think about it, and can we say that the ussr finally fell in ukraine on february 24, 2022? i think that the ussr still fell when it fell , that is, in december 1991, it was in golovy, and in golovy , well, in in someone's head, it could exist, of course. but really, when we see that only 11% are nostalgic for the ussr in ukraine, it's very cool, it's very 2010 or 46, absolutely, that is, now,

for the first time, a generation has grown up that connects its future is with the future of ukraine and not with the past of the ussr, that is, in other words, this sociology shows again that we have won our war, that is, our war, it is a war - a war for the future, not a war for the past, as again, which russian federation is waging sasha, well, those are also lining up, which we are analyzing these days, that in two months the russian army killed twice as many people in mariupol than the fascists did in the two years of occupation of the city during the second world war. many people in the world are already saying that looking at the atrocities of the russian army in the north of kyiv region, in buch, in irpen, also what is being opened in the south, in the east, all this says that putin well, he is actually worse than hitler and does more terrible, terrible things and announces even

more crimes of his army, who is to blame for this in your opinion, how in general happened what made it possible and history repeats itself because the world directed so much effort to ensure that those terrible pages of the second world war would never be repeated, so many organizations of those tanks were founded and the world itself supposedly understood and rethought the lessons of history, but it turns out that it is not to the end well, first of all , there are no such scales there, i don’t know pharmacy scales to measure how many hitlers putin has or how many putins there are in hitler, that is, who is more and who is less in this sense, this is the first thing, that is, there is no such thing, we have nothing here we can't do it in other words . i think there's simply no point in even trying to count it. it's terrible. ukrainians are changing their attitude towards the russian federation, towards russians , towards putin. it's personal. we see that again, this is the

sociological study we mentioned. of the sociological group, the rating is this research , it shows a radical change in attitude towards russians, a radical change in attitude towards the same idea of ​​dirisification, for example, of our public space, and again, i have the truth. i just can't help but share it. i have the truth. and this feeling is a little ironic attitude towards the results of these studies, so it makes no sense. i 'm sorry, when we talked about all this in 2015, about the necessity of all this. we were told that it's all out of time, so i want to say we told you, that is, we did a huge number of things that should have been done earlier, and we were not able to do it precisely because of the resistance of the ukrainian majority, that is, because a large number of ukrainians believed that it was not time for these changes that we needed much earlier, well , that's great so now, so to speak, the way is open, now it has reached the majority that it

was necessary to go in this direction, the direction of dirisification, where is the implementation, and so on and so on and so on and so on well, it's great, just again that is, this is just the one the case when it was necessary before and not now and now again we have to think about what we are going to do in this whole history, that is, for us the peres of the past is important, but at the same time for us we must realize that there are mistakes in which we ended up in in this situation, we can once again complain that, for example, the united nations is completely ineffective in the modern world as a security structure, as a collective security structure, we can complain that nato is somehow not behaving as we would like to us, that is, not in accordance with our expectations, we can speak again after this terrible situation when the skovoroda museum was destroyed yesterday in