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the direction of dirisification where totalitarianization and so on and so on and so on and so on well, it's great , only again, well, how is our little bag in my ass? that is, this is exactly the case when it was necessary before, and not now, and now, again, we have to think what are we going to do next in eh all these stories, i.e. it is important for us to rethink the past, but at the same time we must realize that there are mistakes in which we ended up in this situation and again we can complain about what, for example, the organization the united nations is absolutely ineffective in today 's world as a security structure, as a collective security structure, we can complain that nato is somehow not behaving as we would like again, that is, not in accordance with our expectations, we can say again after this terrible situation when the skovoroda museum was destroyed yesterday during the rule of this pans. that's what i thought when you, uh, talked about the fact that it's difficult to measure because
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putin's hitlers and hitler's putins. well, the german nazis. at least i didn't destroy the cultural their heritage, their cultural heritage, that is, you also have to clearly imagine it, that is, you don’t have to try to change the past in your ideas , yes, that means they also found you ukrainian heritage, they destroyed a lot of ukrainian heritage, heritage, but with that gesture of yesterday, that is, with one of these rockets, russia once again shows itself in the list of civilizations - civilized countries, i.e. russians, they have no right to talk about ukrainian , about the great russian culture, the great russian culture was destroyed yesterday in the town of pandoinivka and its it just doesn't exist anymore, it's simply impossible to talk about covering up with pushkin's fat and lermontov's compared cities, thank you, oleksandr and finally , finally, because i still want to ask you about this, there is a dimension of sociology, we see what the rating shows , well, uh, this sociological survey was conducted
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on 27 april, which significantly increased support among ukrainians for recognizing oun-up as participants in the struggle for the state independence of ukraine, and in general, the propaganda of historical figures imposed on russia by russian-soviet propaganda is powerfully returning ukrainian national heroes and symbols and listen, 81% consider the oun upa veterans to be heroes. yes, this is actually a revolutionary indicator for our society. yes, this is just an eternal topic, yes, an eternal topic for discussion, but in 2010, when yushchenko gave bandera a hero, only 20% thought as 81% believe today, that is, serhiy also researched this is just a decade, we are talking about the fact that this is one of the markers of the evolution of the consciousness of society and when
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we will finally become free everyone that is, he outplayed himself, first of all, in the sense that he is once again a person who wanted the same results from all this slow and some kind of abstract denazification, and who is unclear about what he should be talking about, but as a result of his actions led to completely opposite results i am not talking about the fact that we became terrible nazis there. but as a result, few people contributed to the fact that ukrainians became more accepted in their language, more concerned with their culture, more concerned with their history and finally admitting that we had their heroes who fought for ukrainian independence, the key message is that ukrainians began to realize that ukrainian independence is a great story of the struggle of a large number of people, and finally they again noticed the struggle of these people. well, what
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awaits us, a great future awaits us, we just need to win and for this, all that is needed is the fighting spirit of strength and the support of the whole world, we remember , we win. thank you, oleksandr oleksandr ezinchenko, journalist, historian, deputy director of the institute of national remembrance in 2014-2015 was my guest thank you oleksandr and we always have a little communication with you and we are waiting for you again in our studio, so thank you for coming today, right now we are on the phone, the next guest of our broadcast is talking about food security, ivan y z candidate of economic sciences and the main consultant of the foreign policy research center of the national institute of strategic studies greetings, ivane greetings, greetings to you, dear tv viewers. so let's start with the latest news on kinzburg spits, forests are burning in the kherson region, and the occupiers are with force
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it is forbidden to put out fires. this is reported by the head of one of the territorial communities of the kherson region and says that the fire may soon spread to people's homes if these fires are not stopped. well, we see that in fact the enemy is burning ukrainian forests, ukrainian homes , and ukrainian fields. uh, he is raging because he cannot take a ukrainian cock, but at the same time he is trying to steal it. that's why the logic. how do you do it? you see what the enemy is trying to achieve, because now we will talk about how uh during the temporary occupation of certain settlements in the south, the enemy actually resorted to the state-approved russian state aggressor, looter, this looting did not have such colossal signs that it simply looks um frightening and
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shocking to the whole world, the whole world of the united nations they are looking for ways to prevent this. what to do about it, but we see that the logic here in the occupiers is lacking. well, what is your comment here, do you know about the logic of the occupiers ? nuclear strikes and there was such a thought. well, what if we die, they died. the planet died, it is terrible. that is, it is about the logic that prevails, let's say behind the scenes . cities will demonstrate that russia does not think at all about what , well, at all. this world must exist and continue to function normally, that is, it really is . for the russian federation, these are traditional fires in
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siberia that there is no one to put out because all the forces are sent to capture ukraine. well, let's capture the neighbor's house, no matter what, ours is burning like that, but the neighbor still has a nice, new one somehow then we will return to our burnt-out house, absolutely so, that is, the example of siberia demonstrates that russia is not living at all. our opinion is that the world should develop, what should be in general, the economy of the country, that is, you know, i have the impression that it is really russia. what is there now ? -is he even brings out the heroes of the old with ideologues, that is, you know, recently russian bloggers of the parliament used the phrase that celebrating victory day in russia now is like selling your grandfather's medals, that is, he equated these two events and i actually agree
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that they really do not have a constructive opinion, that is, the fence is on fire well nothing well, it burns on its own, but what is it? let's say it was extinguished thanks to the forces that are currently present in ukraine, that is, how many eagles of the ministry of emergency situations of the russian federation have already been shot down, which helped to extinguish these wish now they won't help so this year from the mountain or more and here russia is absolutely not bothered by it and here is what is happening in ukraine in this context. i understand that their logic is such that we no longer care what is happening in our country it will be the same for you, that is, you know. i think. in the past, on your broadcast, i already said that the main ideology of russia in relation to ukraine is an inscription that was written on one of the mirrors in one of the liberated from the russians, er, suburbs of kyiv, there was the phrase who said that you can live well this ideology with oleksandr mizinchenko, a historian
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, is actually the essence of this entire war for the russians , so that is, they hate us for not giving them their own state and believe that no one should live well, if they live badly, let's return to the issue of looting the state of the aggressor country that it is carrying out on our land, we see that during the occupation of the ukrainian regions to the south and east of the country, the russians have already stolen about 500,000 tons of grain - this is a third of the stocks in these territories, reports of such cases are actually heard from all those places through which the occupiers pass, and we are talking about colossal amounts of exported grains, for example, in the zaporizhzhia region, the grain of spirits is disappearing, there were five fully or
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partially loaded transport ships in the berdyansk port, which disappeared at the end of the month and according to eyewitnesses, they were dragged away by russian tugboats, agricultural machinery is also disappearing, which is forcibly taken from local farmers and also taken to an unknown destination, let's find out first where do the thefts of equipment from ukrainians disappear? where do you know about the equipment? there is a story when the russians in the zaporizhia region stole american john deere tractors that were actually located in the zaporizhia region, and since they are equipped with gps, they found them on the world map, and they were found in chechnya. that is, where ukraine is located without chechnya, nevertheless, they stole these tractors in ukraine and brought them there and then to chechnya, the only thing is that since it is the latest equipment, it was immediately blocked because of the money, the irony is that the russians did not
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will be able to use it, that is, you can’t steal it , but you won’t be able to start it because, after all, there are complex mechanisms and it is unlikely that the russians will understand how and how to break these mechanisms. and as for non-food, that is, let’s divide the first part of these wanted grain goes to the domestic market of russia, experts have already recorded that it is sold there for nothing countries that are actually on the brink of starvation because of the policy of crime and russia's war in ukraine, tell us about both of these areas as briefly as possible, because we don't have much
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time, i want to tell as much as possible, we will start from the end, really russia did an attempt to sell grain to egypt that was stolen in ukraine, but as far as i know, egypt refused despite the fact that there is indeed a threat of famine , they refused to buy it, and now, according to what the world media has read, they want to send it to syria because, after all, the series is one of the few allies russia has left in the world there and at all there or at all are there five and here is a series of one of them, that is, to them and you are right here, a really significant problem is that there is a threat to the world's food security, russia supposedly offers to solve it, but to solve it at the expense of radik, and in this context it is psychologically very important for the united states of america to at least make a decision that the russian federation will be recognized as a sponsor of terrorism, why is this important because any sale of grain or other goods by russia immediately automatically
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or bring it into question. and is it actually russian or separate? if it is stolen, then i apologize for the necessary mechanisms to arrest it . do not pay any money to russia, and now you, along with the ship that transported it, and then decide what to do with it, charge the funds to ukraine, or simply somewhere to reserve, but understanding the problem of hunger and i think that it is necessary to create a mechanism by which all these land products are arrested in russia. it would be possible to transfer them to egypt, another country in africa, and send the funds from them to ukraine, i.e. the object of the transfer, if throwing all this into the domestic market, the european pravda writes that panic purchases of sugar a month ago, the russians showed that russian society is extremely sensitive to the increase in the price of products. and this
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cannot be avoided in russia now. one of the main factors in the stability of putin's regime, in your opinion , will putin be able to get his power by pouring ukrainian grain and ukrainian vegetables into the stomachs of russians against the background of sanctions and the world the embargo of everything russian and the world embargo in order to import goods into russia from those countries that used to be the main suppliers for russia, well temporarily this will be a solved problem because the lack of paralysis of the actual citizens of russia in the majority at least will allow it to consume what they they know that it is stolen, but nevertheless they will consume it, but this is only temporary, because in the medium term it will not help putin gain his popularity, because there
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will be much more significant problems there now, because let me remind you that at the beginning of march, many companies left russia and for three months they still pay salaries, but these three months end at the end of may, that is, starting from june, many russians will not receive funds at all, that is, they will not be able to buy anything, because they will not be paid these funds and there will be a significant number of unemployed people in russia, and therefore even if there is an opportunity to purchase something from them, there will be no opportunity to purchase it because , after all, money is needed for this, and it is unlikely that russia will be free. it may be, but the probability is not that high, so we are left with literally how to fight this art of russia, as ukrainian diplomats should act. i think that they are already acting, and in particular, this is the case with egypt, this is a clear confirmation of how the ukrainian foreign ministry is currently working about this in all directions, but it was the ukrainian
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employees of the ministry of foreign affairs who signaled that this grain was ukrainian and that is why it could not reach the port of alexandria. the egyptians must have been afraid of sanctions, so how it is necessary to act now, and yet how can the aggressor be brought to justice, first of all, everything must be fixed. that is, we understand that after the end of this war, when ukraine presents , let's say, the contributions of the russian federation, then in this amount that ukraine will present, it will be necessary to include in a separate line everything that was what was stolen and what needs to be compensated for has already been decided by russia at the expense of what or at the expense of the russian assets seized there, but it is not us and russia who will decide on gas and which countries are these arrested, but still, the main thing is that the database is really clear, that it is specific and when it was stolen, so that later you can compensate for it. unfortunately, the only
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way to stop this process is to free these territories . time, however, because now we can't just fix it and so that nothing is forgotten and then i will pay you everything thank you mr. ivan ivan , candidate of economic sciences, chief consultant of the center for foreign policy studies of the national institute of strategic studies we talked about food security and well, let's note that the ukrainian ombudsman lyudmila denisova says that she is acting scattered in the occupied territories - this is a war crime, a violation of the norms of the geneva convention on the protection of the civilian population in time of war, including in the context of the theft of food, this mass looting, and all these cases that we are now seeing and talking about , they are recorded in order to launch
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a mechanism for compensation for losses and punishment of criminals in the future now we have the next guest of our broadcast - this is taras chmut, a military analyst, a sergeant of the marine corps reserve, a volunteer, a participant in the russian-ukrainian war, the founder of the ukrainian military center, the head of the come back alive fund , congratulations to mr. taras. good day, i would like to start with a fresh, fresh analysis of the news that we see today first of all, the withdrawal of their forces from syria by the russians and the actual transfer of military bases was an extremely alarming message, the media of israel write about it moscow surrenders positions in the region in order to send up to 60,000 troops to ukraine, of which approximately half are officers, what effect do you think will have on whether putin will be able to strengthen the positions of his army this spring or an offensive in the east of our
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country, well, it is obvious that the strengthening of such a number of troops is the troops already present in ukraine do not mean anything good for us, but at the same time we must understand that the russians have so many personnel and a lot of equipment, and so far this has not given them any strategic advantage in this war. do you think about the quality of these military uh, that is, how well, let's say, how much are they really some kind of combat units that, well, what are they worth ? syria , how powerful are they, how powerful is their combat training? well, there is a contingent that was on a rotational basis, what armed forces are in the areas where the
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operation is carried out by their forces, that is, different military personnel from different parts of different divisions in different positions. there is no single grouping that was only there and fought only there, a significant part of the russian army over the past eight years went through such a run-in through the series, some also through the left parts through other african countries, but the main training ground was donbas and the series there they got some combat experience there to try out the equipment er well, there they learned to fight and it is not very easy for us, but at the same time, once again at the first stage of the war, russia was unable to realize its rear, it was unable to realize its plans for the occupation of most of the territory the country despite the total superiority in the air of the blue weapon in the number of personnel and armored vehicles, that is why everyone was very afraid of 60,000, as it was announced, but this is not something so critical
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that the conduct of the war will completely change, on the other hand, we are ready to compensate for these 60,000, which will come with 62 thousand dead, which will get out of here at the expense of receiving modern western weaponry, mr. taras well, let's also add that from the news reports of this day that everyone was very afraid of these war criminals from the russian army who committed all the atrocities in the north of the kyiv region and according to reports from our intelligence were again sent to ukraine in the direction of kharkiv, so the military correspondent - tseplienko reports that the ukrainian fighters claim that they destroyed the russian soldiers from the buchach executioners' brigade, this is the 64th brigade that were in buch and that's about 300 people, in fact no one is left alive and this is the guards brigade that
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was awarded by putin on april 18 of this year with the title of guards, so these guardsmen who were previously accused of mass killings of the civilian population in buch, let's move on to the topic of the nearest prospects, we see that actually fresh reports are those who wanted to discuss this, the opinions of cia director william burns, who is quoted by reuters as saying that putin is ready to redouble his efforts in the war against ukraine, believing that it will help him win without saying that the new phase of the war in ukraine is connected with the russian offensive in the east of the country, which is no less dangerous than the first stages of the invasion, and the president of russia is determined to he simply does not want to lose under any conditions and is ready to take certain crazy, unpredictable steps. how do you assess the situation on the 74th day of the war
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and what to expect in the near future? we know that tomorrow, may 9th, there may be certain changes or certain messages will be announced by the military leadership, and the prime minister of ukraine, denys shmygal, says that it is likely that putin may declare war on ukraine, and what to expect. ukraine has already once ignored the western warning that there is the threat of the great invasion and received a rather bad situation on february 24, when we were actually not very ready for this war. therefore, now we should not neglect the threat that is and the determination of the russian federation, throwing us manpower, meat, and equipment as much as possible, but achieve at least some operational-tactical what a success to sell your
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population, what a great victory and despite the fact that many in this country for some reason believe that the war has already been won or it has already ended this is absolutely not the case and the threat remains not only in the east and south, but it remains in the northern direction and in the kyiv region, also kyiv regions, chernihiv region, sumy region, and this should, on the one hand, mobilize the population, on the other hand, we should be ready for a protracted war that can drag it out not just for months, but where to go for years, mr. taras, well, we have regarding tomorrow and good news exactly on may 9, the president of the forest for ukraine, what is your view, your assessment, how critical is this moment for our, our armed forces and for our ability not only to defend, but also to attack, this may be at the moment when a sufficient number of american
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weapons equipment will be part of the regular units of the armed forces mastered mastered by a sufficient number of training personnel munitions of the components of the e-e with awareness of tactics and their other applications a simple signing of a document that does not mean anything e.e. today politically many countries promise ukraine a large amount of weapons but at the same time, the pace of their arrival in ukraine would like to be better, that is, you would like to wait specifically for when this weaponry arrives in ukraine and do so and then conclusions because, in principle, there is quite a lot of information and what types of weapons these can be, and ot, for example, and ot, for example, a number of world media these days are already discussing such a top topic, whether ukraine will strike the kerch bridge, they are discussing the types of weapons that we we will get it as part of the lend-lease, and we will actually be able to get it faster
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, easier, simpler. the need for rocket e-e in this system which artillery will be able to hit further, of course. that’s it. for example, the american m-142 humars and m240 mls launchers are capable of hitting with a range of up to 300 km. that is, the world is already starting to analyze what ukraine will do when it gets the ability to shoot down such and such at such a distance. here’s your opinion after all, when this kerch bridge falls, what other goals should be set as the number one priority after receiving this weapon that hits at 300 by 500 km , that is, what does it change for us and what advantages does it give us, we
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are not talking about weapons for 500 km and a day for 300 now it’s very scary, first of all, the mlrs that you mentioned still need to be received and they have different ranges , the place of people and it is not known what kind of ammunition. tornado and get ballistic missiles with a range of up to 300 km. it is still a big challenge for america to provide them to us, considering that this is a weapon that can significantly change the course of hostilities by transferring it to russian territory , so the question here is not about the ukrainian bridge here is the task of the u.s. ready at this stage to transfer the war to a completely different format because the missile systems we have are 120 km dotka. they are quite limited in their depth of impression because
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120 km is not so much for today and the missiles themselves there is not much left well, you see, you are just very careful with your and not to be too optimistic but it seems to me that there are still very good signals here for us because actually the experts say that ukraine will receive these e-launchers in the near future able perform the role of missile systems of salvo fire and operational-tactical missile complexes with a range of up to 300 km, of course we still er. maybe i don't know for sure we didn't get it, but world experts also emphasize that the last visit of er. boris johnson to ukraine and the rhetoric with which he arrived shows that the collective event has radically changed the opinion about the war in ukraine and already emphasizes the same messages brought by johnson that it is necessary not to negotiate with putin, not to conclude any peace agreements there, but to go after his
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to press, we hear such signals from our partners from great britain, the united states, well , all that remains is to turn all this into reality, here i completely agree with you, mr. taras well, after all, in short, we are constantly talking about the overforest. so, who is supplying weapons to the russian federation today, we know about the fact that the embargo of the european union on the sale of weapons to the russian federation was introduced and updated recently, nevertheless, do some countries still bypass the collective measure - this is a bargo, and who, who is not from the eu, is supplying russia's weapons, i am not ready to say the closure of the european union, who supplied it from the 14th year to the 22nd year, and what components and components we found in the north of the kyiv region in their combat vehicles, where exactly it is as a means of
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communication connection and guidance blocks for missiles and so on, that is, a large part of the russian equipment that is fighting today consisted of european components produced in germany, switzerland , france, and that was until february 24 at least. if we talk about the future, well, there is north korea, at least there is ivan there is china, there is venezuela, there are other countries that can also buy through third countries and transfer and completely block russia, access to certain components will be quite difficult because there are schemes in the world that allow one way or another to bypass it, it is difficult, a little more expensive, but where is it yes, thank you , mr. tarasa chmut, he was in touch with us, he is the founder of the military portal, the director of the military analytics charity fund, come back alive
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