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how the so-called great patriotic war gave weapons to russia, why a pretended friend became an enemy and unleashed the biggest war since the second world war, and how europe rallied to help ukraine defend common values, the free world united for ukraine in its brave struggle for freedom and self-determination 8 and on may 9, watch the special marathon of unified news, two wars, one future, we remember and win
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care about the air you understand there are many people there very much and everyone really needs to hear we unite one hundred percent the unification of the people was thanks to ukrainian journalists, we ukrainians are winning victories marathon unified news unified news unified news unified news see further always with you day victory day is not the biggest and most pompous holiday of the year so it was in the late ussr and so i am
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now in the russian federation, which is trying to impose its customs on its neighbors military advice marches of immortal regiments st. george's ribbons down to the linen unstoppable festivities front 100 g grandfathers of war and we can will repeat this during the lifetime of several generations, the holiday created by soviet stagnation has turned almost into a pagan cult, the leaders of modern russia never tire of emphasizing the sacred significance of victory day for all peoples of the former ussr, people get the impression that may 9 really always had a special character, but how to look at the facts, for the first time victory day was established as a national holiday, the day of national celebration in 1945, but it was considered a holiday only until 1947, even in the first post-war years in may there were no festive parades of veterans on red square and there were no yesterday's winners
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transferred to the front of the restoration of the country, and veterans who had serious injuries were generally violently removed from their sight for almost 20 years from 1948 to 1965, almost the only official victory day celebrations were artillery salutes that took place in several large cities. this was the case for 5:10 and 15 years of victory. it should not be thought that in the union at that time it was not customary to arrange festivities were celebrated on a grand scale every year on november 7, the day of the october revolution and may 1, the day of workers' solidarity, military parades, a demonstration on red square, leaders on the tribune of the mausoleum, in 1965, victory day again became a day off on red square, held military parade, and only then the red flag of victory was carried for the first time, and not in 1945, as
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many think, they also issued a jubilee medal, which was awarded to more than 15 million people, to change the status of victory day, leonid brezhnev decided in the 67th year in moscow to solemnly open the memorial complex of the tomb of the unknown soldier, the first persons started the tradition of ceremonial laying of wreaths at the memorial. so, the laurels of the majestic holiday victory day, which are familiar to many, acquired only the brezhnev time, as often happened in the ussr, artificially at the direction of the party in most countries of the world there is no such official holiday at all, the countries of western europe and the united states celebrate the victory over nazism , but not on may 8, the day when the majority of german troops laid down their arms in accordance with the act of surrender of germany. western tradition honors the memory of the dead and emphasizes the values ​​of peace, war, weapons and death are not glorified and
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romanticized, victory is not flaunted, and other peoples are not humiliated, nazism is condemned categorically and without appeal, the main emphasis is understanding, learning the lessons of history, prevention new warriors, such an approach is gradually being introduced by modern ukraine, and this is in stark contrast to what putin's russia is turning into victory day, militarization, victory hysteria, attempts to appropriate the victory over nazism by the russians and to devalue the contribution of other peoples to it, all that russian intellectuals themselves aptly called victory-obsessed, let's remember we win
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the national telethon the only news ua together speaks with one picture for the 75th day the baton is picked up by the social i andriy dekhtyarenko and you and i will spend this hour together leading national tv channels have united in order to quickly provide the viewer with verified information about the russian-ukrainian war, the whole country can now watch for free on satellite tv channel ua, the first rada 1+1 ukraine ictv inter ukraine 24 trc kyiv, the broadcast of the telethon is also open and available online on the platforms of the name which you see on your screens on youtube and on the websites of the channels of the participants of the marathon and internet radio player.ua ukraine is already a full-fledged part of the free world and united europe, the president of ukraine said this during his traditional address, volodymyr zelenskyi also expressed his gratitude to our defenders. let's look further.
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today is a very important day for us, for our people, for our freedom. it was here in the mariinsky balance today that he held talks with a friend of ukraine, the prime minister of canada, justin i am grateful for the time. well, for the visit to our country right now. it was on this day that the ukrainian and canadian delegation held bilateral negotiations , a powerful gesture of support and faith in the future of our people. agreed on the expansion of economic defense cooperation, we have an extremely important decision by canada to abolish all trade barriers for a period of one year . that this potential
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will be for in ukraine where the russian invaders left thousands of mines stretching projectiles of the presence she the prime minister awarded a-a today our sabers in particular, a small but very famous sapper patron dog who helps to clean our earth from the traces of the occupiers who also help to teach children about safety against me through the russian invaders. this is now one of the most urgent tasks to teach children to recognize explosive objects and avoid them, avoid them, this is how liberation from safe life for ukrainian children russia brought to ukraine ukraine for the first time became a participant in the meeting of state leaders of the group of families of the world's most democrats outlined our vision of what should be done for the victory of freedom , guaranteeing the security of ukraine, it called for increasing the
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prices of the disk on russia and creating such conditions for ukraine, so that the war ends as soon as possible with the liberation of our land and our people, in particular, this concerns the embargo of russian oil, oil mixtures , and oil products. the reconstruction of ukraine after the war, the group of seven agreed on a joint statement on the global threats created by russia and our respect for the common historical heritage of our common values ​​and our freedom the statement of the maximum interest of ukraine will become the main basis of our further cooperation, and the main thing that i felt today is even more readiness of the world to help us go, that we have already achieved a historic result, because for the whole free world it is clear that ukraine is the side of good in this war, russia will lose because evil always loses
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grateful first ladies of the united states alive ba for the visit to the country in uzhhorod, today for security reasons, the meeting with the 1st lady of ukraine was not announced in advance, journalists were not invited but i know that mrs. biden received the maximum amount of information about what ukrainians need, ukrainians are now grateful to her for the sincere support of our people, held talks in kyiv with the prime minister of croatia, andrii plenković, croatia is a principled and powerful supporter of our state in the struggle for independence, i am grateful croatia for everything we have already received and i hope that in the future cooperation will only grow. i also received the president of norway in kyiv. we are really trying to help. i am grateful for all this. i spoke with the president of the german bundestag
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, first of all, about the further defense of germany's contribution to this struggle against may, against how german leadership in the european union will help us. i visited ukraine today and a bonus, eh, the youtube band is grateful to him for the support of our people. and drawing more and more attention to the need to help our people. well, i am sure today in ukraine has shown that we are already a full-fledged part of the free world of united europe, this is obvious an obvious contrast against the background of moscow's loneliness in the freedom-hating that everyone will see tomorrow, the russian army would not be with them if they did not kill now, on the eve of definitely important days for any european, as a result of a russian air strike on biloghirka, luhansk region, about 60 people were killed, civilians who were simply hiding in a school from the shelling it was a targeted attack on the school another crime of the occupiers another missile attack
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on the odesa region another hit on a residential building again shelled in the sumy region brutal shelling in donbas and in kharkiv oblast, it's as if it's not may 8, as if tomorrow is not nine, when the main word should be peace, peace for all normal people, russia has forgotten everything that was very important for the victors in the second world war, but ukraine and the whole free world will remind so that later no one will forget that the really important words never again, which are repeated throughout the free world every year on the days of remembrance of the victims of the second world war, will regain their weight. i am grateful to all our defenders who defend, save ukraine from the modern descendants of that old evil. eternal glory to all our heroes. eternal glory to all our fighters. we are grateful to all friends of ukraine
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and freedom. glory to ukraine. russia is fighting not only with the ukrainian army, but also with the objective true history, distorting it. let's talk about it with a ukrainian historian. and the head of the state archive of the security service of ukraine, andriy kohut, who visited us in the studio, we welcome you . glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes, and the first question i know is, when did the war begin, the hot phase of the war in first of all, on february 24, 2022, you met this sad date in the united states of america. what did you do there? it was really a large- scale invasion. actually concerns the issues of deportations, both deportations at the first stage of the second world war and deportations after the second world war, unfortunately , this topic is actually again in our ears today and
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practically, that is, if we look at history at all and look at what is happening now in the temporarily occupied territories, we unfortunately see that the whole of soviet history is beginning to repeat itself, it often looks like a farce to an outside observer, but unfortunately, this farce has a very tragic and human dimension, and this tragedy directly affects the citizens of ukraine, our fellow citizens, it’s interesting. yes, what do we know that a bunch of archives of the kdb and hall now remain in moscow, the ukrainian archive of the sbu, in fact, archives the kdb can be called the largest open archive. do you know what is happening to the archives with documents in the territories where the occupiers enter? we know for sure that they are trying to take these documents out of the territory of ukraine, at least . luhansk is in crimea , that is, in fact, if we look at the policy of the
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kremlin in the field of access to archival documents. the general policy of world war ii is to limit access as much as possible and to make it as secret as possible, and this is unfortunately understandable. because where there is a lack of access to archival documents, where there is a lack of opportunity to explore free and independent history, there is a field for propaganda, but we see that propaganda intensifies every time they go to some territory well, probably the scariest for me personally. the symbol is the almost completely destroyed mariupol, and there they put a woman with a soviet flag, a plastic souvenir. in fact, i was wrong. i didn't mean that at all, but no one in russia is interested in this, some pioneers are put there. that is, why for russia now this is
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a symbolic plast - it is much more than a real crime, because, well, for whom to put this monument in a completely destroyed place, it is worth saying for sure first of all about the fact that if the war was going on, after the large-scale invasion began, the american audience, recalling yes, i was there at the time of the invasion, began to take a very active interest what is actually happening in ukraine, what is the war about, and my quick answer was that it is a war between the past and the future, and if we actually look at how all this soviet tinsel is being pulled out, the red flag, everything else is an attempt to somehow justify what this war is for, that is it is clear to us that this is an imperial war for the restoration of russia as an empire, but for the outside world and for its own user for the purpose of propaganda, the kremlin uses it and moscow uses it to try to make some kind of argument why exactly they
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started this war, why is it being waged, they could not find anything other than to pull out this ghost of the ussr and try to say that we want to restore the ussr, despite the fact that for everyone who is the least bit interested in history and has their own experience of being there, everything is clear that this is the state that it is not worth reanimating. that is, if we are talking about the modern world. that is, it is definitely a state that violated all possible rights of a citizen and a person. if we are talking about the drust war, then this is actually the state that used the only method of fighting nazism. it is just throwing mountains of corpses at the german army, in principle the same thing that they continue to use. today, if you analyze the history of russia, nothing has changed here in a century, the important thing is that can we really resist propaganda now? how can the disclosure of soviet archives help this?
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i believe that we are just very good at resisting this propaganda. you can often see such things. appeals that in order to oppose this russian propaganda, we need to start some ukrainian propaganda about how it says in my experience, the best resistance to propaganda is access to actual archival documents, access to the truth and the opportunity to freely discuss it, what we see today in the united states and in the west in the world and in the free world in general, this is precisely the fact that the opportunity is freely and independently without pressure, without any er, it is without censorship, without propaganda instructions, what to say, how to speak, this is our answer and why we are fighting and, of course, documents, archival documents, they are not extremely important, because they provide an opportunity to interpret , reinterpret and, er, if we were to deconstruct that propaganda, see how it actually does not coincide with the real world, if we look at the propaganda used by russia, then we
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will see that there are in fact a huge number of inconsistencies , and how such a small touch can be mentioned, for example, that in fact in the soviet union all information about the second world war was classified. practically everything that was not published the official mass media could not publish about it, it could not be talked about, it could not be mentioned, it is interesting that the russians at the same time even have criminal prosecution in their legislation for allegedly distorting history, primarily this concerns the second world war now we see exactly may 9 - this is a sacred date for them - it is actually such a family religion has already become in the russian state , why is the russian federation, putin, the kremlin so strongly clinging to this myth about the soviet victory in the second world war and is it possible to do something about it, because the cult of ancestors and this immortal regiment, well, everything is set completely
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for this date. it is as if an ideological focus. the myth of the great patriotic war, and it is also very interesting to understand. why did they take only this great patriotic war? actually, what we can do today is actually explain that it should be about friendship, war, so that there was a period of 39-41 years when the soviet union was an ally of hitler's germany when the soviet union attacked finland , took part in the division of poland when, from 39-41, it carried out hundreds of thousands of deportations precisely from these western territories of western ukraine, western belarus, later from the baltic countries, from moldova, from the south of bessarabia, from bukovina, i.e. actually show that in fact this is the only moment that now what the kremlin is proud of now is the fact that thanks to them the victory in the second world war took place, which
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is called a large part actually show that in fact, thanks to them, this war started at all, and the more we talk about what and how happened during the second world war, how the fates of ordinary people of our er, grandfathers, grandmothers, great-grandfathers, great-grandmothers happened, it will actually help us if we deconstruct this myth , explain, however, and to everyone what was the war really for the people, just about the deconstruction of the myth , i wanted to talk a little about another myth, er, another myth, because they tell their own consumers of propaganda and soldiers that they are they are fighting with the nationalists with the people of bandera, this is the image of bandera, even ramzan kadyrov, the head of chechnya, is looking for bandera, everyone is looking for bandera, we know that in soviet times, archives dedicated to the struggle of the internal troops of the nkvd against the ukrainian resistance after the second world
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war were exported. have these documents been preserved? at least partially in ukraine. if so, in what way and can the distortion of those events somehow help in today's struggle, well, first of all, i would like to wish ramzana kadyrov to meet with by stepan bandera, and returning to the topic of archives , actually, er, yes, russia concentrated and exported documents from all the union republics, the majority of documents in three of them related to the issue of the second world war, and also concentrated in itself documents that talked about who fought with partisans, anti-communist, anti-soviet movements, when we talk about ukraine, we are talking , of course, about the organization of ukrainian nationalists and the ukrainian insurgent army . so these documents were exported to moscow, and thanks to the fact that they were later copied by ukrainian archivists together with canadian researchers, these documents are now available in ukraine in a copy, and thus it is possible
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to say exactly who was the second warring party in the fight against the upa, and it was by no means the red army. actually were the internal troops of the nkvd, what today are the internal troops or the guard in russia, actually those who suppress any attempts, national attempts, protests of today's e-e sub-russian e-e of various peoples who strive for independents who strive for real autonomy and actually those who continue to act as punitive punitive bodies andriyu wanted to ask who can now get access to the state archive of the sbu and a citizen of ukraine or i don’t know a foreign researcher journalist how to get this access, unfortunately now with active military actions access limited to them, however, those archives that were made in copies and we will and are in digital copies, we will try to make them available for review as soon as we have such an opportunity, of course we apologize for
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any delays we hope that our e- interviewers will put it to this with understanding ukrainian legislation and in fact such was the practice that everyone who wanted could and can get access to it now according to the decision of the state archive service there are restrictions for citizens of the aggressor country here we are talking about russia and also about belarus for everyone else, in principle, it is open. please contact me, but i would still encourage you to contact me after our victory, then we will have much greater and wider opportunities to acquaint all those interested with the actual archival documents that also tell about the second world war and in general to conduct more widely, for example, that specialist scientists, including sbu historians , are working like this right now. there are zionists during the great terror, when the focus of the repression was directed against the jewish population of the soviet union. a
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book about the suppression of the hungarians in 1956 is also due out this year. now we we are working with our colleagues from poland on a book about the deportations of 1940-41 from the territory of western ukraine, unfortunately, as i already said, all these topics have become relevant again. we hope that this kind of cooperation, including with our colleagues abroad, will allow a much wider to explain more deeply the context of events that ukraine is currently experiencing at the moment, you are probably right now when may 9 is again the date when russia is celebrating the victory mythologically, in fact, as they understand it, ukrainians are waiting for an aggravation on it is also important to inform the front for sure that during the last period it may have been revealed in the archives of the sbu that specifically concerns the second world war, in which you mentioned, well, actually from the second, if we are talking about the second world war, then here we must surely talk about what we should understand and analyze in the history of ukraine the second world war as, after all, a
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rather broader process because the partisan resistance that took place after the second world war is actually rooted and all directly in the second world war and in fact the book about which i have already mentioned about the deportations, it will directly relate to what we are working on from such an interesting point, this is actually what was very widely known that in 1940 there were four minutes of deportations of western ukraine, on the other hand, the fifth wave is much less known, it began in western ukraine a month before the beginning of the soviet-german war, on may 21, 1941, more than 11,000 family members of the so-called counter-revolutionary organizations were deported to ukraine, mainly more than 90% of these families were families of oun members thank you it was andrii kogut, the head of the national archive of the security service of ukraine, and we are still working in our marathon, the only news , stay with us until one
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. first, soviet and then russian propaganda created for us a feeling of invincibility by the russian army of weapons and the unsurpassed power of this geographically large country, and russia did the same and with history rewrote a script convenient for her, russian units of the military police in the temporarily occupied territories confiscated and, unfortunately, are currently confiscating historical and fiction which does not coincide with the theses of kremlin propaganda
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about the reasons for russia's distortion of history. let's talk with andriy zubov. he is a famous russian historian, a doctor of historical sciences and a political scientist. he is now in touch with us. andriy. good day, i will talk to you. yes, and you must know that you are in moscow, and they have not yet learned the ukrainian language, but the main language is probably for us now the language of truth, which the kremlin is constantly trying to distort, and actually extract which were about 80 years ago, and those events that happened 8 years ago, those that are happening right now have a completely different picture in the head of an ordinary russian viewer and a russian reader, and probably most of the world that we call civilized, how do you think why is this happening seychna there will be poganda which, unfortunately, and eh and eh

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