and putin as long as there is this psychotic tv russian , russia has no chance. she just has to run out and fall apart. well , we want small pieces of this. volodymyr tsibulko joined us. thank you for the conversation. and even about maxim eh and eh returned to their own discussion of the speech of fear of the new and aging tyrant putin and the elder of the empire with its aging standards that no one needs. and i wrote down my new address and let's listen to zelensky ukrainians ukrainians are the indomitable people of our country today we took another very important and difficult formal step on our way to the european union ukraine handed over the

second part of the answers to a special questionnaire that must be filled out by every country that aspires to be part of the european union usually it takes months and months, but we did everything in a matter of weeks, this is a document that contains thousands of pages, and just today we had conversations about our european integration with charles michel the president and the european council in the role of the president of the european commission that is why i expressed my gratitude to them on behalf of the entire ukrainian people for their support of our country and attention to our needs, especially now in this difficult time, the time of war, they are perfectly aware that this war is not only for our freedom but also for our own to all europeans mrs. khursula said that she was

impressed by the speed with which our government officials filled out the questionnaire, i was glad to read from her that our speed encourages the european commission to act just as quickly. i expect to receive a positive response in june regarding the acquisition of our country and the status of a candidate for eu membership. lead a new sanctions package against russia, the president of the republic of moldova, charles michel, visited our odesa today and saw with his own eyes what a blocked sea means for the first time in tens of tens years in odesa there is no normal e traffic e merchant fleet there is no normal work protocols for sure this has never happened in odesa since

the second world war of course life connected to the sea is blocked by russia precisely by russia and this phone call is not only on ukraine without our agrarian exports dozens of countries in various regions of the world are already on the brink of food shortages. over time, the situation may become downright dire. politicians are already discussing what the consequences of the price crisis and hunger in in the countries of africa, in the countries of asia, this is a direct consequence of russian aggression, which can only be overcome by a common one for all europeans, for the entire free world , it can be overcome through a drive against russia due to the effective coercion of russia to the point that it stopped this shameful war, and by the way, today, despite the presence of the president of the european union of the council, the russian military

again launched a missile attack on the odesa region , this is the real attitude of russia to europe and it has always been like this, even if they do not talk in moscow , he met in kyiv with the secretary general of the council of europe, maria pechynovych burych discussed what can be done for peace in ukraine, europe, with the help of the tools of this respectable institution , is grateful for the support of our state, with a visit to our capital itself, this day is europe day and the day of victory over nazism, usually on may 9, europeans mentioned the price of peace that was paid by all the peoples of our continent was paid 77 years ago, they talked about how to prevent the recurrence of such a terrible war, and it is clear that now everything is different in european capitals, the main topic is that price

peace, which will still have to be paid for by stopping russia unleashing the war, as well as the price for russia for the fact that it once again brought to europe the evil of a total war to destroy our people, is sure now the main topic and in moscow there they can portray in propaganda whatever they want and do whatever what political statements but reality will not change reality needs peace and the only culprit of the fact that peace was destroyed is and will remain russian the state is a historical responsibility for the dispersed we ukrainians we continue to work for defense for victory for restoration of justice today tomorrow and any other day that is needed to liberate ukraine from the occupiers i am grateful to all our defenders our

defenders i am grateful to everyone who defends kharkiv oblast defends donbas defends the south of ukraine who does not surrender and waits for the ukrainian flag in all those cities which is temporary, i emphasize this is the temporary capture by the occupiers of kherson-melitopol, berdyansk, energodar, mariupol, all other cities, all our other communities, the ukrainian flag will return because this is our country, a free european country, ours too glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes, good speech of the president, great speech, and uh, emotional, emotional, emotional, strong speech, what do you have to say, friends, well, we still have 25 minutes left of our live broadcast, and now we are joined by who is joining

us, and oleksandr solontay oleksandr congratulations congratulations four speeches are key and the main thing is that he ends the president by mentioning the occupied cities, mentioning the occupied territories and thus gives an answer to the question, well, avoiding voicing the painful truth, but gives an answer to the question is when it will end, how much have i been talking lately among ordinary ukrainians who, well, among themselves in the kitchens, in the cars, over there for coffee, and different ukrainians there, those who are helping volunteers and those who are in the rear with eh they just met as a family, they ask the same question, it unites everyone together for how long, how long. when it ends, i ask everyone one

question, well, would you like the war to end now ? melitopol, berdyansk there. well, that's it so on. no, i say. and how do you imagine, well, that is, you want the war to end, but at the same time the territories, well, it means, as the ukrainians say , we want the war to end, so that we have expelled everyone, so that we have already won, so that we have all liberated the occupied territories so that we this is already what i mean, i say well, then we have a little patience , because this process is difficult, but we see , for example, how this past week, every day , on average, the armed forces of ukraine liberated one or two villages in the kharkiv region. yes, that's it. it is a slow and difficult process, and during this time, they tried to capture a number of targets from the russians in luhansk and donetsk in the kharkiv region in the south, and the russians even strengthened their positions

along the border. that is, it is a very difficult process, and here you need to understand the ukrainians about that that even the president, who as a politician wants to have only the positive, but even in the presidency here, he sets up the ukrainians that this is a painful and difficult process. and what can we say to the people , well, who are supposed to give the expertise, well, the true assessment, to give the situation, well, dear ukrainians, it is necessary understand that the war will continue in the near future, it continues in the summer, and its main goal is the liberation of the occupied territories that were occupied after the start of this stage of the war on february 24. it is possible that the territories that were occupied since the 14th year of ukraine remained outside the borders of

ukraine, that is in fact, there is such a line, the mood of divisions of ukrainians, there are ukrainians who really agree with this well, what is the objection of the majority who agree to stop the war right now, well, let the occupied territories remain but what about us, the war has stopped right now there is such a minority of them, then there is such a colossal large majority, er, this is a group of ukrainians who say that we accept the scenario that er, ukraine leaves behind territories of 600-37,000 m² er, well, 600-3007,700 m², that is as of 2014, there are two groups inside until february 24 and until 2015-2014 . well, most of all, it is a nice idea and we are

going to crimea again to our sea, that is, 603. or those who came, a lot of russians came there, well, those who came i thought why a civilian, if we are talking about the military, then everyone is a prisoner. and if we are talking about russians who became russians, although before that they were citizens of ukraine and they are in some way involved in some authorities, that is why the legislation on colorist collaborationism was adopted, and it is obviously necessary will adopt legislation on de- rasification, well, carry out such a denazification, as well, according to the analogue of germany, and find out the role and participation of everyone. social benefits are not counted or a pension will not be issued if without this passport, but they have no involvement with any authorities well, that's one story, and a completely different story if it's a family

of military personnel who, including their breadwinner, betrayed the oath of ukraine to the military personnel in crimea and have worked all these years, for example, there in the police or in security or in the border guards or in the military of some administration of the russian federation well, that's a completely different story well, they should be punished for this that is, these are two completely different stories that everything should be well very clearly filtered, next is a group of ukrainians who believe that ukraine should review the border with the russian federation, they say so very often, we don't need a foreigner but please return our kuban, there is another group of ukrainians, well, it is less numerous than the first two, so large well, but it is and there is another group of ukrainians, it can be said that this is the country, yes, that is, the lands of ukrainians, there is a land that says we are ready to stop the war, although now i am the only one for the sake of stopping it.

of the armed forces on red square and by the act of surrender in moscow when moscow burned, that is, there are such extremes, well, that is, it is obvious that two-thirds of ukrainians are united by the history of returning donetsk , luhansk, crimean-vastopol, and for compensation, and this is the day of our victory day, that is, the majority of ukrainians gather in because our day of victory is ahead, well, i think that it will still be difficult for us to articulate later . we ask, they said yes, homolshchyna is returning back to ukraine now, kuban is also there and so on and we would start, you know there. so, this situation, you know what it is like there in olzhich, there is an iron state, a tense arch on the plinth, and above the level of the carpathians, the

pamir is dazzling and clear, as slava is tense the arch on the plinth is a clear iron state. i think why do we need the pamirs, why do we need moscow, they themselves deal with their swamps, we do not lack land, fortunately, we did not lack land before the war. we would like such ukrainians, even ukrainians who believe that er, er, ours should be returned, but there should be a different situation from russia, even those ukrainians who say that we do not need foreign lands, among them there are still those ukrainians who say that the russian federation should not exist because our security is the end of the existence of that empire, the collapse of that empire, that's why the views of ukrainians are very different, but why did i touch on this topic, i'll remind you. we just listened to the president 's speech and we are analyzing.

gave a key message that kherson , melitopol, berdyansk, mariupol, and other cities. well, there is kupyansk, the connection is sacred, starobilsk is there, happiness. one such very delicate topic is revealed. well, such a delicate topic is not discussed in ukrainian society until the end. it is about understanding the victory. one part of ukrainians out of these two-thirds of ukrainians understand the victory of the russian rollback . of the army until february 24, and the second part considers it a victory, of course, donetsk luhansk, simferopol , sevastopol

unites together. will last , that is, at least until the liberation of these territories on february 24, and the name donetsk luhansk, simferopol, crimea is avoided for the time being, because it is assumed that the possible scenario of this war will involve a certain lull or cessation of hostilities actions on the border on february 24, that is, such scenarios are currently being worked out, although in reality no one can say how the war will end, neither zelensky nor the negotiators, no one, because it is simply unknown what will happen during the beginning of hostilities and with our enemy himself. but putin has an idea of ​​how a war it will end and so that well, of course, no, well, at the same time , he will very much expose his non-words, because

the words are such and such. to follow first the troops enter the capital and in general you try to capitalize our state, then they realize that no, then they intensify combat strikes there in eastern ukraine, but they understand that even sumyshchyna even kharkivshchyna is just a distant fantasy, then they announce and go military convoys from the side of mariupol, they try as if from a raisin to somehow drain the donbas, they receive , er, according to their merits, from our soldiers. glory to the armed forces, and they are trying to make a breakthrough in another place, not in the slavic direction, in the direction of central ukraine, but in front of sloviansk, in the direction of the estuary, they also receive there on merit glory to our soldiers glory to the armed forces and that and now they tried to break through yavirskyi donetsk to occupy at least the luhansk region to surround this part of the mountain gold severodonetsk lysychansk, that is, to this

part and there today they were given again on merit well, glory to the armed forces and everyone, because the hottest battles are taking place right now there , but we see that every time he goes from big to something small to something a little bit to my crimean corridor, er, by the way, about what is victory, there is another alternative point of view, an alternative point of view, today i was just listening to two wise men, er, vyatrovych and portnikova, who were here in your city on the platform in taras yetsenko, and the opinion was very well expressed that victory for ukraine is the next entry into nato after the end of active hostilities. it seems to me that this is just strategizing forward which is not there it is necessary for every ukrainian to have it as a victory, but simply as a goal, because we see in

russia that it has the ability to recover, and as soon as it recovers, it very much returns to the idea of ​​collectivization of lands, and this means that we may have two years five 10 20 30 how many years have we not had, we must understand that the next war may be inevitable if, especially if we are not ready for it, which means that we will not be able to waste time for a single second, and therefore the phrase that i drew attention to this in zelensky's speech now his last phrase when he said that ukraine is a free european country, ukraine is a free european country. i really hope that he believes in these words and i really hope that all the same political forces after the end of active military operations will unite absolutely they will not unite around the figures of zelensky, the hard-working poroshenko, whoever they want, they will unite around this idea of

​​a european and democratic ukraine, and it will require a lot of effort, this will be another war, a very serious war, which will be a war on prejudice is just preparation so that the next war with russia does not happen. and if there is one , it will be a war not of ukraine with russia. now there is a very cool french journalist, in fact, and she says that she has a lot of conversations. she goes with a taxi driver. the taxi driver says that the war must end. it is already over. soon there will be a food crisis, people will die of hunger. you want the ukrainians to surrender so that you have something to eat , he says fine, i understood that they are a french woman , fine, okay, we have to kill putin, we have to kill them, that is, we have to convince ourselves that this is what we

are. part so that we will already be with them when the next big war comes, well, look at andriy, er, if we talk about the first part, er, well, in our constitution, both the eu course and the nato course and the actual implementation of the constitution of ukraine are written which would make us europeans, it would be ahead of the curve if we ukrainians implemented our own constitution. our constitution begins with the words that we are a free european country, but there is no european word, but there is a sovereign, legal, social, republic, and the articles of the constitution continued, but real life and the ukrainian constitution this is absolutely, well, the gap is huge, and in that constitution, which is so fmrna, like some kind of dream, it is written there, it is written there, nato is written there, the armed forces of ukraine are written there, our territorial integrity is written there, and so on

and the reality is what it was, and all these years we actually constantly lived in the format of anything except outside the constitution and constantly approached it with a chasm than reality and the constitution. in fact, 30 years of independence were shortened, but still the chasm remained, and of course what if after after the war, there will be a truce in some format. the victory that we discussed will move into the framework of the rule of law as a state that is a candidate for the eu as a state that is recovering and rebuilding that has already achieved how important it is to adopt the law on national defense and implement it, adopt the concept of national security, implement it, adopt a decision on reforming the armed forces and implement it, adopt a decision on nato standards and implement it, that is,

how important is it in general that we are laws, that we have the law , that what we agreed on or not about competitions for for example, positions in all state institutions to implement it, for example yes, about everything, about everything , a decision was made about civilian control over the armed forces, about the reform, about security, to be carried out, a decision was made about the reform of the defense industry and so on, to carry out, that is, to carry out and in general to live according to the right to live in general according to the laws from the constitution to all other documents, this is the same and there should be a conceptual change that should take place here in order for us to understand that we are europeans and not mordor because russians in this context , it is one of a thousand aspects, but they look at this aspect in ukraine and say, you are the same, well, power, not rights, you think that everything will change after all, i am sure that a huge number of

ukrainians who will return from the front, who will return from the victory they will have uh, in a popular way, it will be like this, they will pump about the fact that it is us, we won everything for us, and as a result, society will have to reach a compromise, first of all, between the thousands of those who will be at the front, because they had a lot of resources and positions it will not be enough, and secondly, between those who were in the rear and their work will not be hung by the hordes, but there are even more volunteers among them than the armed forces, and they also contributed to the victory, and it will be necessary to reach some kind of compromise, and the force option will not work because it is not the 90s are already over all are strong and, accordingly, the law will become relevant , a basis will be needed on the basis of which to negotiate , respect for the law will appear much more, will it be possible to preserve this positive synergy of trust that has arisen inside because it would still have trust and to the institution, in particular, it arose and

one to one or the other, this is the spirit of unity, it will be possible to carry it after the war, we went through it in 2014, when we had a surge of confidence in the armed forces, and then there was such an attempt to corrode the institution, and then i will remind you, i remember that this scandal an attempt to actually make the atoshniks guilty of the murder of a colleague of sheremet, yes. in other words, this is by and large, we can consider it differently as a mistake, like that one, but one of the options for what it could have been, and we talked about it with you on the air that one of the scenarios of what is happening is an attempt to discredit in general but we don't we don't have an answer to the end now what it was but if it was so, then it didn't work, that is, in fact , society in general and back in 2015, when the first veterans began to get behind bars for those or others crimes for themselves, they said,

there is no indulgence for participating in the war, but soldiers and the armed forces are our heroes . oleksandr watched after the 14th year. lists and a lot of those people then went on to fight and did not even go to that verkhovna rada, well, i don't know. well, i don't know. biletsky was almost absent, for example, he was a deputy of the verkhovna rada at that time - and they just took it for beauty, just to vote for them, they were taken in order to use them very often, ah, will the situation change, or will it happen that we will have a new elite, really, from these military rivals, in 2014, the military massively won the elections to the verkhovna rada, massively, the bilet

majoritarian not only they were taken to the lists by majoritarians, won massively there from dollar millionaires and so on, but in 2019 this was no longer the case, and the level of trust in the armed forces and respect for the armed forces remained, that is, it moved from personal factor into an institution into a stable institution, the situation in ukraine is such that after the end of this stage of the war, the number of institutions trusted by ukrainians will simply increase, and this will be both at the level of the personal factor and at the level of the institutions themselves. well, it will definitely happen , but regardless of these people at different levels, actually, well, i already said it, i have to say goodbye. well, it seems to me that people like luzhny, conditionally speaking, should be diligent both in medicine and in er, they are involved in education and culture, this does not mean

that the military with epaulettes, but what is meant is that they are competent about western patriots and such, well , anti-soviets in a good sense oleksandr thank you very much. guest viktor maistrenko, they told me, well, viktor, thank you for joining us. we really don't have much time, viktor, i'm coming to you right away as a specialist in russia. i 'll ask you, how do you like today's competition in moscow, what signals did you see, those people who they came out and said that up to a million people were expelled there , they came here, are they happy with what is happening there in general with people in the heads and that putin today? filmed i would give him an award, he

showed some complete insignificance, some complete insignificance, eh, i don’t know, it’s possible on the air now, complete shit, that is, this is some complete shit. well, this is putin as an old man who depends on whom uh, there is a lot of people out there, and he doesn’t depend on it anymore , because there is more of us here , there is more envy of us than the ukrainians, and they say that when he mentioned his uh troops at the end, he almost cried or he trembled out loud there, i didn't watch it myself, that's why i just recently did an interview and they asked about the fact that putin is there, well, the diseases are only completely in a friend

of ours in the israeli, that's it, that's what they sent, the creation will die there or talk to him there will happen, and the problem in friend, uh, russia itself, that's the only thing putin and uh, so that what happened to him there, they can draw him there in russia, i don’t know. there will come graphics to make a problem on the other one, our main problem is that they need to be defeated, this is the main task, uh, when how will we only defeat them then it won’t matter to us putin is alive and well he has a disease there is there i don’t know how the ass is there or how there is something else later turn to him i am a wife here