on the territory of this plant, but i understood so much and in fact i see that it is of great importance publicity that it is extremely necessary i understood it from the fact that they went to the press conference from the fact that they have public speeches from what they do some posts and i realized that this is an extremely important channel of communication for them because of public publicity, well , because people know about this situation, of course we have other azov fighters in other areas of the military and it is clear that all our soldiers who now they are all heroes fighting for ukraine, but here the problem of this particular unit, or rather not so of this garrison, is that they are closed, they are surrounded, they are blocked in them, it is very difficult to deal with

everything, and it is not that there is a demoralized garrison that simply waits for death, no, these are motivated and very powerful soldiers who at least want to to be useful who want to be saved for this in order to continue fighting for ukraine, let's listen to fragments from one of ilya's speeches, he talks about the russians as they fight and about the actual salvation let's listen they know they will lose and they will lose like that if they had more courage at least 10% of ours they would have fought without all these heavy weapons with light weapons then it would have been a fair battle but they don't want an even fight they talk about what they took mariupol they didn't take mariupol if you ask do we need help, of course we

need help, but we don't need to be saved, we are saving others well, i think that this was a performance partly like a cinematic film such words could be spoken by some heroes of some movie about the war of hollywood uh, and here i noticed that in his speeches, they are somehow like that, as if they were written by someone's speechwriter, very correctly formulated, as if someone wrote the script, but you somehow helped him, but well that's not how to express himself in any way and in fact uh this is one of his great talents he is a brilliant laugh he uh knows how to express his thoughts very clearly he speaks three languages ​​equally well including the language of the occupiers actually he writes back in russian, but then well, for me it is a

personal pain because, er, the father of my sons, he did not want them to speak ukrainian and they grew up speaking russian, and only later on he started speaking ukrainian, but still he does not feel it so strongly, but for it comes out of english like this. as you can hear , that is, the language was learned in the process of playing computer games and in the process of his work, he managed to work before the war for a large international company for six months, he practiced english, but he also had linguistic talent, but 106 refers to the way he speaks, well, you know, it comes from the family, of course if it is difficult for me to express myself and everything is difficult for me, i have difficulty writing, i have difficult written texts that i teach even on facebook and i studied film studies and actually, hmm, those texts that i tried to write, which are not experts, and like er

film criticism, they also differed quite a bit . it's quite difficult and in life i communicate well, no, no in a primitive everyday language, that's probably why the children are like that. well, they have it somehow since childhood, they were very good at conspiracy. well, the way they spoke, and it's only this moment. well, plus, there's also acting talent, it's clear that i couldn't do without it, but i when i read the comments under this e-e post on instagram, yes, they accuse him of being an actor, that he is too clean for a person who is in a blocked dungeon, and so on, it was of course very strange to read, but accordingly

, you can usually read various not very pleasant things some phrases, but i read them in one of your posts, and what you write, when i look at ilya at his friends, i think about the fact that they should build a new ukraine. why do you think that these guys have such, what, what, what are the main features, i also wrote about this and i wrote about it a long time ago, this generation that grew up after 91, well, more precisely, who was born after 91, these are hmm, special children, they no longer have the imprint of that souk past that all previous generations have, they are very free, i don’t i know whether all are children, but i know who is from those my son's entourage and who is from my younger son's clarification. that's right. that's all. that's

what they were called. this generation is not. a turning point when there weren't even diapers yet, but this feeling of freedom had already appeared, and i think that they took a lot of things. and when they grew up, their worldview was formed in such a way that they, uh, they are not tucked away, they are not scared like, for example, some subsequent generations who introductions they are normal, they communicate with the world, they have good socialization, very good, i would say these guys are very good with their heads, first of all, and the fact that they have such great motivation, and they remain idealistic and grow up , move into adult life and well, it seems to me that

it is very important to be an idealist. hmm, to a certain extent, i am like that myself , and maybe my attitude towards the world and my kind of principled attitude towards certain phenomena in life were transferred to him, and i see it in him in the same way. today i found your interview is already old. well, in comparison, it seems like 2017 , but it is still relevant, even in the headline, you say that if we want to have a prosperous state, we must monitor what our children watch, but if we are talking about ukrainian cinema, what does it mean that our children well, i don’t have children, but in general, what can children watch now , what is right and what is wrong for the formation of our state, well, we have to start with the fact that now, for example, youtube is full of russian products en masse, and we have youtube with algorithms

throw up these products in the first place and, unfortunately, there is no way to influence this, and if parents, for example, leave their child alone with television that is broadcast via youtube and can not control what the child watches, sooner or later he will watch russian content in russian because there is a lot of it. this is not original content, so they translated a lot of content and are translating well, they paid a lot of attention to it and invested a lot of money in it, unlike us, we have practically no this market is not developed. we have some initial stages. well, let's say there are some channels that accumulate children's videos, but there are critically few of them. well, it has not yet reached such a stage when it already overwhelms youtube to such an extent that it publishes it primarily in algorithms he issues it there, well, after

100 reminders, and then it still switches to russian-language content, and it is very difficult to control it . of the development of our, let's say, educational process, we have a few minutes left, i would like to ask two more questions if we have time , first of all, we very often in the cinema - when we talk about a national film hero, we should have him and not one. that is, he is a person who resonates with whose actions the whole country resonates with whom the whole country supports, for example, the russians managed to find such a hero , he is absolutely similar to them, this is danilo bagrov from brother brother this stage

is located and in general what is necessary for us to form it, what should it be, well, it is very necessary well, i think that it is possible that it is already possible among those films that should be released in the near future, i do not know when they will be released, some premieres are postponed to the period after the war but i i think that there will not be a long period of these active hostilities, which will interfere with the continuation of film production. well , it will inevitably resume. we have a very large staff of people who know how to do it, they are doing it quite well, and we know that now there will be such a rush revaluation of values ​​will develop very quickly, a whole set of ideas about the hero, about self-identity, about themes, because now i see that, for example, wild directors are even publicly asking about this, what should be the new our cinema, what should

be the themes if life is so a-a interrupts any plots that can be invented for the cinema if they are not alive appear against the background of what is happening in our real life, i think that a certain time must pass in order for us to realize what is happening to us now, but on the other hand, we need to create content already, and we really need it, and i really hope that it will be new content similar to what we filmed before the war, and even if we talk about some patriotic series and films, they must go to a different quality, er, to a different one, because well, we are a non-modern country that is currently going through changes that will take us to another world and a different quality of existence, there are still some perceptions of everything that

is happening to us, and here it seems to me that we can theoretically now jump into the modern world and reproduce it already hmm, well those processes are some we are trying to find a film language that will vividly reproduce this and be universal in its sound, because we decided that our film language was very archaic and very ukrainianized . very great elation in the artists, everyone wants to find some stories, well, actually, the time of the title has run out, i have to say at the very end that we and all the espresso channels and our viewers, i believe, also still believe in the optimistic attitude of all these fighters, girls and boys, who are now on the azovstal, that after all, the procedure they ask for will be carried out and obeyed,

and we will do everything, sign petitions, everything that can be done to save them, because we really need living heroes and i believe that we will see them alive, but thank you very much. we spoke with alla samoilenko, the casting director , and the mother and the forest, my darling, who am i now? he can already be called a spokesperson, that's all, vasyl, i pass the word to you, thank you very much. alina chichenina, she conducted an interview with the mother of defender khm azov and ili samoilenko from australia, in which she, together with other fighters, holds the defense of mariupol at the point where this defense can now be held, we support our heroes and believe that they will come out of there alive with weapons as real heroes, they are worthy of this, before we start a conversation with serhiy zgurets, my co-host is

an expert defect express, we will sum up the military results of the day, i will very briefly tell you about what, according to the information we received, now, he went to such life after a long illness, the first president of ukraine, leonid kravchuk. now we will see a video of leonid makarovich, if there is such an opportunity, we can. leonid kravchuk was born in the 34th year of the last century, he died at the age of 88 . the shvl apparatus is the person who proclaimed the act on state sovereignty. he proclaimed the independence of ukraine. he went to early elections in 1994. he lost those elections to leonid kuchma. and he actually left big politics and remained a deputy for a long time . the leader of various factions, the leader of various parties , participated in various political processes well, but in principle, this man who has already become history well, maybe we will talk more about his role in the modern history of ukraine, but now the fact remains, leonid makarovych kravchuk died,

well, eternal memory, mr. serhiy i congratulate you, i congratulate you , so we will start talking about the military results of the day , and here we will start with the historical document signed by joseph biden, the lend-lease law, what does it mean in our military sense, how quickly this the law will begin to act in the confrontation with russia. well, in fact, this is a really historic step, and i perceive that the langlist law is actually a law about victory over russia, because the prerequisites that are being created now are extremely optimistic, because the us president will get the opportunity to quickly provide military aid to ukraine. that is, all procedures regarding the transfer of military equipment for our country, which is, of course, extremely important, but the list of weapons can be any and it will be determined on the basis of agreements between by our proposals and the ability of the united states to provide them, it is also important that

logistical capabilities and operational capabilities will also be taken into account, as was the case with guns in particular, when we receive not only documents but ammunition and undergo training of our military who will use these guns. -liz - it's not only about weapons, it 's about the transfer of materials, the transfer of equipment , and i plan to hope that in fact the use of this law will allow us to create own defense industry because it is now destroyed by the enemy and receiving the equipment will allow us, relatively speaking, to see in a new way our defense capabilities, which have and maintain weapons and create proper ukrainian weapons, the question of what to pay for lend-lease is quite interesting, but it it is foreseen that the calculation should be, but in view of the

41st year, when such calculations were foreseen. i cherish the hope that in reality there is a great opportunity for us to pay for the supply of weapons, well, in particular, by renting a base in, well, actually, the russian federation, as the successor of the soviet union, paid for the lend-lease only in 2006, and it paid 600 million dollars, although for the 45th year, we understand that inflation was happening there, america demanded more than two billion, and then it made even less, less, well, in the end, russia paid 600 million dollars, if you compare it with the 45th, then i understand that this is 10 percent all-in-all maybe russia, as the heir of the soviet union, paid even less for the day that actually saved the soviet union from defeat in the war with germany and nazi germany. yesterday we talked with you about the number of forces. the number of

e-e manpower on the battlefield from ukraine and russia according to various estimates, i heard that now up to 500,000 e-e fighters from the side of ukraine and from the side of russia have gathered on the battlefield, is this true or not and who is now prevailing on the fronts ukrainian troops numerically or russian well, in fact, i would like to return to our, uh, yesterday’s schematic tables, because you can say that when we started to show visualization with you, to visualize the front, there were many posts and calls to me personally, which looks like there are actually fewer of our troops in the collision zone when we we are talking about the entire front line, which today is about 900 km, we analyzed various schedules, various schemes that were proposed there by foreign institutions , we looked at what the foreign experts are doing, who are gathering information there and invented one

one of the graphs, which is quite interesting, consists in the fact that the number of troops stationed along the entire border of ukraine and the troops stationed on the territory of ukraine was calculated, and in general, in fact, there are currently 93 battalions of tactical groups on the territory of ukraine. uh, on the monitor, we see these red cubes, they are actually in the enemy forces and it looks like ours are presented here, they should be blue, but they are presented as green, it looks like there are fewer of us. but if we walk along the entire border starting from kharkiv to kherson, there is a certain number of troops in each direction. i will now name some numbers so that they are more clear

. 7, i.e. in general. these are 93 battalions of tactical groups. let me remind you that each btg - this is about 700-800 soldiers who have equipment and are able to perform certain technical tasks, but when we now look at the map, where they are opposed to them, our forces are usually these green cubes are much less. but de facto, if we see these numbers that are located opposite the russian btgs, then they are really smaller, but each of these numbers does not mean btgs, but in particular brigades, because we fight in brigades, and also our brigade in particular has somewhere, she says, 4,000 personnel, i greatly simplify the calculations. but i will say yes, if we count all our brigades in the collision zone and there are

29 of them, they say about 4,000 personnel , and we come to somewhere around 116,000 military personnel who defend our territory from the enemy 92 russian btg is somewhere around 70,000, that is, in fact, in one direction, and in general, the russians do not have the amount of advantage that allows us to say that they can ensure victory based on the usual tactical calculations, so relatively speaking, the situation at the front is sufficient. let's say so controlled and these brigades that i am talking about, in fact, these are not all the brigades that we have, in particular, we have units that are located in other parts of our country and there is a territorial defense brigade that are not taken into account in this calculation, so that potential personnel we only have a problem with the fact that we need weapons and i hope that due to the lend -lease we will ensure an optimal balance between the number of personnel and weapons of the russians, on the contrary, the situation

with the personnel looks more critical because, relatively speaking, they do not have all these btg it succeeds because this btg is not fully formed and we know about their morale, of course. and now we will talk about such an interesting eagle translated from greek - it is a sea eagle, a genus of birds of prey of the hawk family, and for russia it is orlan 10 whose drones, by the way, have recently been very actively shot down by ukrainian air defenses, why is it important, how did it happen that we finally started hitting them en masse and how dangerous this russian drone is ? on the connection, we will now add it to the air, so it is already there. olezhe, we congratulate you. olezhe, why is the drone so dangerous and so massive ?

a pest drone is a reconnaissance drone that was appointed to introduce reconnaissance and adjust artillery fire. if we are talking about the mass, then it should be understood that since the beginning of the 2010s, the russian federation has imposed about 10,000 of them. this is a huge number, and it is necessary to consider something that they simply very massive and as cheap as possible, because their loads are actually canon cameras and this is the standard load, there are other versions of the load of this drone that already have a stabilized platform, which is now on video and it in fact, it is very similar to the stemp platform from the israeli manufacturer, and thanks to its capabilities, this drone can launch a circle of fire at a distance of 100 120 km from the base control station. it is with such drones that the russian

artillery adjusts the fire, so the question of how to shoot it down was very relevant for beginners in the 14th year, in fact, what is the problem? the drone is a small-sized target, and the available anti-aircraft weapons were before that. that is, these are the missile complexes brought by the children, they are anti-aircraft installations, they are weakly designed to destroy such a target, but even before at the beginning of the war, the mass invasion of the russian federation, great britain sent rather interesting marlette anti-aircraft missile systems, which are guided by a laser path, the difference is that for guidance, the homing head does not need to capture a diesel engine of the nature of the target , and the operator simply holds this target in the crosshairs and with the help of a laser it guides the missile to the street and the target is destroyed, that is, in fact, before we simply could

not shoot down these eagles because we used our soviet manpads or stingers and they simply did not the eagles could capture this eagle in their head, yes. yes, we even tried to use mi-24 helicopters to shoot down the eagles, that is , there were even such cases, that is, now the whole problem is solved with the help of manpads and with the help of radio electronic warfare, of course. the last word is with god ours already had a lot of experience and learned how to press the frequencies of the horn well to intercept the control, in particular , this same complex of notes, and it is they who allow us to create such a protective umbrella on our by subdivisions and those er, well, cases when

it is not possible to look for some reason, er, they are already being produced, the entrance to the manpads market , olezhe, if you can compare, let’s say the aircraft that ukraine operates in the sky today and the orlan-10, which aircraft is the coolest. well bekhter, of course well , you have to keep in mind that these are drones of different classes , uh, orlan 10. it was conceived as a mass and cheap drone . in its working height is 500 m, and of course there are different weights in different masses. i would say that it is not necessary to do something like an eagle, or the russians don’t have any weapons at all. it’s actually a drone that is assembled in it in russian there is nothing at all, in fact, the camera is imported, this

electronics is either china or the usa, navigation and telemetry are directed by the swiss, and now there is simply no access to these components in the russian federation, that is, the parliament ends in the sky of ukraine on such understandings yes, you said that the optics used on the orlan are israeli and there are samples of german optics. is it possible to say that israel and germany really helped russia develop its fleet of unmanned aerial vehicles, we are now reaping the fruits of this process. richie, it is impossible to start with something. there is another drone, for example, of a larger class, the forpost . and this is just a licensed copy of the israeli solution mk2, and they officially bought the components

, they also bought them in israel, and this contract was still in the 1990s it reigned over here. we really have europe , israel, they helped the russian federation to create that weapon, and what is it now that we have a blade of time, but i can ask another question, it ’s not about drones, but what is your version of why russia didn’t yesterday refused to fly in moscow and other cities of russia during the celebration of may 9. well, i will not go to the meteorologists there, that is, in my opinion, the only option really, which should have been, is that not all planes were able to take off banally, and it was stated there he is already talking about il-80 command point, his participation was announced as given that this is the only command point that they have, because all the others are at the base and most likely

not in flight readiness, then there was no reserve for his replacement , why exactly he did not fly, or this is one of the versions the fact that it broke down. another version is that uh, from the parade, it was almost all removed from the parade, all this symbolism with the azyuks, in general, any uh, mention of nuclear weapons, maybe this was also the reason, thank you, very easy-going expert was with us on for contacting us by letter, thank you very much olezhe serhiyem, well, we literally still have 40 seconds, but i don’t even know, we m. if we talk about the perspective of the perspective of this war, in your opinion . in the east, because the south is a separate story. i think that in the east at least up to 4 months. we will have to withstand the russian onslaught, but

using the help of the united states, we will be able to crush them. i say goodbye to you until tomorrow at 19. finally, i will say that today the first president of ukraine, leonid kravchuk, passed away. i think we will talk more about it tomorrow, there is a lot to talk about, but eternal memory, he did his mission in the history of ukraine, and now for your attention, a news release from my colleagues from the ukrainian editorial office of bbc news, let's watch together take care until we meet in ukraine, but we start with another important news, the first president of independent ukraine, leonid kravchuk, died, he was 88 years old, a few months ago it became known that he spent a long time in the intensive care unit after heart surgery and later underwent rehabilitation