volodymyr zelenskyy today held a meeting with the foreign ministers of germany and the netherlands, who were in ukraine today on working visits. key attention was paid in particular to cooperation in the field of defense. the head of state also expressed hope that the sixth package of eu sanctions against russia, which includes an oil embargo, will be approved immediately. in addition, the parties had a substantive exchange of views on the issues of european integration of ukraine, the heads of the german foreign ministry , behr box stated that her country will insist on ukraine's full membership in the european union, let's also add that the day before the president of ukraine announced that the second part of the questionnaire for obtaining the status of a candidate for membership in the european union has already been filled out and submitted, let's talk about it with our next guest, contact us valentin

glykh, political analyst of the public organization word and deed, mr. valentine, good night to you good evening good evening, mr. valentin so, the path to the european union of different countries is different, on average, it took three to five years for the countries in order to join the european union, turkey has been joining the european union for 35 years and is not yet in the european union. in your opinion, how long will ukraine need? what will our path depend on? if we count from 1991, then we are already approaching 30 years. well, if we count from 2005 and the orange revolution, well, one of the leitmotifs of which i was also european integration .

the revolution of dignity of the 14th year well, accordingly, it has already been there for 8 years if we count from the 22nd year, that is , the current year. it should be noted that there is a positive dynamic and that more and more european leaders who, well, one more thing, if we are talking about germany, have quite skeptical views on ukraine's acquisition of membership in the european union, literally, i don't know. a week ago, there was a slightly different statement from germany, and today representatives of germany are already coming to ukraine , meeting with the president of ukraine, meeting with other representatives of the ukrainian government. i think that they are being shown something from what the russians have done in ukraine, they understand. well, what price are we

paying today for our european future and is changing its point of view, so i think that you know extraordinary events and extraordinary circumstances. they require extraordinary decisions and i think that the european union today is gradually maturing to these extraordinary decisions and simply well, you just need to understand that there is some kind of normative general practice, well, normative general practice it is normal due to normal single conditions and when the conditions are extraordinary well, you need extraordinary solutions, you need courage you need to demonstrate some political wisdom, i tend to think that the current european leaders have enough courage for this wisdom moreover, let's not forget that several countries, for example, the united states of america and canada, have made serious concessions in terms of economic support when, yes, that is, they allowed ukrainian

goods to be supplied without washing, moreover, when ukraine signed the association agreement in 2015, it was about the free market. well, there was also a certain lead and provision for the ukrainian economy. had certain chronological limitations yes, and i think that even today the european union could, you know, help the ukrainian economy to synchronize with the conditions of the european market . well, because we perfectly understand that, well, in the current situation, the ukrainian economy is not so competitive with european economies, and yes, this is one time. well, it was not very concretely capable before. and now i am ready, but on the other hand, we must realize that this opens up new opportunities. no, what has already been created under the president of ukraine this national council for the restoration of ukraine, well, from the damage caused by the war, it opens up certain opportunities

to modernize the ukrainian economy already through the efforts of european states, although we repeat not in the sense of some kind of charity, yes, what do you give us money because we are good and just as a result of the fact that ukraine well, what will happen next, i don't know if it will become a member of the european union in the near future, but what we will strive in this direction is definitely and i think that it is precisely the task of the european countries i think they have already come to terms with this and accepted that they will have to help modernize our economy to such a state that we, uh, in the european family of nations look like, well, completely accepted, i will tell you more as a person who has been a lot in europe and in various is i saw europe in different guises. if you can say that ukraine looked quite acceptable to the european family of people before the war, i tell you with all responsibility that you could see

the total economic conditions in many countries of the european union, which are definitely much worse than in ukraine have been somewhere better, somewhere worse, but you should not think that do you know any city in france is better than any city in ukraine no, this is not true, there are places in france that are even more depressing than some places in ukraine and i can continue them won therefore answering your question. that is , why the duration of european integration, because it is about the adaptation of markets, about the adaptation of the economy, i remember when bulgaria and romania entered there, for example, they were on the labor market, yes , that is, romanians are bulgarians, there were certain restrictions on employment in europe, we understand for what purpose but i repeat that this is all in ordinary conditions today, hector's conditions are ordinary, so i hope that these processes will be er, well, somewhat in a different coordinate system than it was under others valentina, among other things, the president of ukraine met and held certain talks with

the foreign ministers of germany and the netherlands, and besides, of course, the priority of defense, they also discussed oil cargo, the sixth package of european union sanctions against ukraine, you know what the current situation is in the words of the european commission with a visit to hungary in order to personally convince the leadership of this country to decide even in spite of what was done to them, they made concessions and made certain postponements regarding the import of russian oil, to convince politicians when they announced so long ago that they are even ready to compensate with money in fact in hungary. here are the damages that may be caused . what is possible, in his opinion, and it is based on the material that was conducted by his journalists, the investigation means that putin has insider information on orban or orban. i don't know. please tell me

this version. hungary is purposeful, even in spite of the concessions , even in spite of all the financial promises, it does not want to go to the oil embargo, look, i don’t even doubt that the russians have a compromising account of many european and world politicians and ukrainians, moreover, i practically do not i doubt that the russians systematically and deliberately corrupted a significant part of the political and economic ilyas, both european and world, but i also think that the audacity with which the russians started this war is just this and well, it was rooted in their confidence that they had corrupted enough people among the political establishment of the world states and that this is a kind of safeguard against uh-uh potential stations we you or other reactions against the russian

federation but it turned out that they did not take into account one the circumstance, well, we are talking about democratic political regimes, and in democratic political regimes, politics very much depends on the public opinion of the citizens themselves, and we see as a measure of how the public opinion of the citizens of these countries changes, well, politics in they could not choose, they cannot go against public opinion. i have already said several times that there is no such thing as the concept of trans-e-e border in the audience when zelensky addresses the european parliaments to the world parliaments in this way he also addresses the audience of the corresponding citizens and then i.e. local politicians, they cannot go against the will of their own citizens, because this means that they will simply be affected by waste. states that initially took a rather restrained position, but to the extent that public

opinion changes, politicians also change their views, so returning to your question, i do not know if there are any personal kompromat on orbán. well, i cannot know this in principle, but what he is. well, it is absolutely well, it does not guarantee anything to the russians, because for the urban man, well, it is still more important to preserve his power, by the way, he recently won the vote of confidence, and i do not think that he is burning with the desire to put his political future on the map now, well, because of that hypothetical, some kind of kompromat, because who will believe kompromat now? i think that the russians can now throw out a lot of different kompromat on many people, but we will perceive it all simply as attempts to discredit. that is, you know it. it is one thing to make it public and cause a political scandal . that this again discredits in the eyes of society and this, in turn, will worsen their political prospects, so i don't think that in this aspect

someone will go to such and such a game and at the same time it must be understood that the same hungary recently announced that we will in no way stand in the way of ukraine's accession even to nato. well, not 7 months ago they said that we would block any euro- atlantic ukraine in general until some there is a question, remember this story, i think maybe some have forgotten, i am simply reminding what this is all leading to, that hungary and some other countries actually have certain difficulties with the supply of energy seeds, and realizing this, they are offered a compromise option. the way they will supply this energy carrier and compensate for losses, by the way, i was talking about this just a few weeks ago, that apparently such a toolkit will be used to compensate for potential losses, and today such an option

is offered. you and i can go back to the first part of our conversation about the fact that there really are some other factors besides purely economic regions, because look at everyone who criticizes sanctions today or is not in a hurry to do so join, they all refer to economic reasons, they don't even refer to political reasons, they talk exclusively about the economy, the economy is money, it's profits, the economy is expenses, if you say that there will be some negative consequences for the economy, they tell you, we are ready to compensate them, that is, then you you have to say okay, this is a great scenario, we are all the more so that i will repeat that it is from the point of view of economic blocs, diversification of risks, well, sources of supply, relatively speaking, yes, that is, to jump off the russian of an analytical needle, in the current circumstances, it generally seems to me to be a great idea, especially when you also pay for this diversion and also salaries, so i think that hungary is unlikely to excessively

resist and stand in the way, well, in this dynamic that is becoming irreversible, even the position of the chinese seems to be aspects, we are quite eloquent , that is, no matter how the russians try to preserve the good image of the application game, as they say, but in fact there are its own liners, there is another problem, the problem with india, which few people know about we actually say but there are difficulties there, but india is also a democratic state , few people here mention this, it is also oriented towards the world market. moreover, i am in terms of resources and in terms of selling my goods, that's why i think that india is also popular, they will explain, well, what are the alternatives, that is, whether to focus on the 140 million market of depressed russia in the future, or i would even use the post russian space in terms of terms .

do you know the situational benefits of those cunningly made ones who think that everyone will be limited , we will make money on it, i think that the popular explanation is that if you want to make money here, the short-term perspective is why i will create such conditions that you are in the medium-term perspective, the medium-term perspective is not even long urgent, you will very much regret your sorry to start the development, that is, it is completely clear here, in just a few words, i would like to add that there are allegedly some shifts with e-e india in the end here on this direction, there is also work to be done. yes, thank you very much, thank you very much, valentina, for joining our broadcast at this late hour. it is always interesting to listen. thank you. we hope that we will meet again on the live broadcast of the nationwide joint marathon of the leading ukrainian tv channels and vika radio station. thank you. organization slava idiot political of course friends and about the new nuremberg for putin is it possible or is it possible to blame the higher

political leadership of russia, which gives criminal orders and war criminals who actually carry out these orders. in march, two international courts in the united nations and the international criminal court began to consider the claims of ukraine against russia and against vladimir putin personally on suspicion of war crimes, however, the international court of justice is limited in its ability to prosecute anyone from the highest political echelon of russia is impossible without un security council sanctions, and moscow will surely save any such resolution, experts in international law and in european politics began to actively to talk about the creation of a special military tribunal like the one that took place in nuremberg , or perhaps a repetition of nuremberg 2 oksana kotova understood the nuremberg trial, this is the verdict of history , this will be the case with all those who raise the sword to the world, where were they

looking for and how were the main nazi criminals of the third reich tried 12 of 24 high-ranking nazi officials were sentenced to death, should we expect a new nuremberg for the war with ukraine? do you think we are all like that, that we all knew about it, that we wanted to kill women and children, that's all himmler and goebbels, we didn't know anything. this is the work of the ss gestapo. hall number 600 was the site of the loudest trial in history in nuremberg, where hitler liked to hold party congresses. for 218 days, from november 1945 to october 1946, nazi criminals were tried as part of the international the tribunal included eight judges, two each from the usa,

great britain, the ussr, and france. the officer, the head of the gestapo department, who was actually responsible for the final solution to the jewish question, eh, in the 60th year, it was done in argentina, two criminals of nazi germany who were sentenced to 20 years were acquitted . - it was the pope's background, he was the ambassador in vienna, and the third was the mine, it was the minister of economy, e.

by the perpetrators of war crimes in different countries benjamin ferenc was an investigator and the chief prosecutor of the united states in one of these trials he was looking for criminals i went to the death camps buchenwald dahao collected any evidence of the ain zats group fortunately for me everything was recorded every city where they were who is there the main thing was how many people were destroyed in the well-known trial of doctors who conducted various experiments on prisoners, such as concentration camps, within the framework of these trials, paul blobel was also convicted, this is precisely the commander who participated in the mass shootings of torgubabs, and the same local processes took place in the soviet union 76 years later, europe again faced war crimes after the full-scale invasion of russia into ukraine, ex-prime ministers of great britain, gordon brown and john major, as well as video