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symbol of desperation and the main symbol of fantastic people rebuild parash let's launch we will win that you are not news together thinking live broadcast marathon in a joint marathon of the leading ukrainian tv channels and radio stations we say to name yury bilyk we continue our efforts next we will talk about sanctions which unfortunately, for some reason, they cannot to implement, we are talking about the sixth package because the european union currently cannot complete all these procedures regarding the handling of precisely the 6th package of sanctions, this issue can be considered as early as next monday about this is reported by josé borel, according to his words. if these difficulties cannot be raised in the discussions, this issue will be brought to another, higher level, to the ministers of foreign affairs during the eu council. back home, hungary blocks the introduction of an oil
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embargo for russia, not from the european union . the minister of this country, viktor orban. he explained the difficulties and the rejection of russian oil by the fact that the country has no access to the sea, so it will have the effect of a nuclear bomb in order to save oil cargo. to figure out how to press this direction, so to speak, and implement the sixth package, because we have been talking about it for the third and fourth week, but we are not talking about it in the perfect form of ihor petrenko . with the studio p. petrenko, our greetings to you. good evening. congratulations . good evening. thank you for joining us. let's discuss in detail the reasons why we really can't reach an agreement, because in fact, only hungary is not offered to her. postponement for years, in fact, she is offered financial compensation, fenderland voted for this, in particular, the system came to hungary to personally persuade the leadership of this country to take
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such a step, but petros yarta, in particular, not only orbana lesia, they say that we do not agree to this yet, but there is no sea in other countries of the european union, meanwhile they negotiate with other countries, you know there, for example, germany , it is added from well, it is true that there are disagreements between the italians and the gas warehouse with a boat they agree and so on, that is, in fact, other countries are looking for a way out. yesterday we spoke with roman dobrokhotov, he was still an editor for insider. he said that our fellow journalists, our publications, conducted an investigation and found out that moscow has classified information on orban. i thought it was interesting . such an opinion, and in your opinion, this may be one of the reasons why the hungarians do not take this very step. is it really possible that this is a critical need in oil, no? well, indeed, on the one hand, there may be a compromise. but i think that if putin has a compromising document, so it can be not only putin, in fact, for all his
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activities and tenure, rather the condition here is that hungary has now felt the moment that she can get a lot for it, well, conditionally there are also objective reasons about when they are its economy. and by the way, we are not talking about gas yet, we are talking about oil right now, so the dependence on gas of hungary and not only hungary to other countries, even more so we still have one more battle ahead of us uh, and that's why there is such a moment that now the man is trying to simply hold out for himself the best conditions that the european union can offer her accordingly. that's why it's such a very cunning position, actually, not a plus, let's not forget that, after all, in general, the european union is always willing careful decisions and even imposed sanctions. they always do it with such er in order
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to inflict the least amount of damage on themselves . and secondly, to er leave certain loopholes in those decisions, which, accordingly, they er approve because the question, for example, is how the russian federation was able to pay for all its respective debts, or, for example, the decision, and this, by the way, applies to the americans . yes, regarding the payment for gas, that is , russia. what to define pay in rubles europe says in the majority it writes that we will not do this and then it turns out that in the contract they change e means the line in which they say that the moment of crediting the funds let's consider it when we transferred to one respectively, from the banks, and not when gazprom credited it, that is, they transfer it to the bank that is not the corresponding bank under sanctions, then they convert the funds into rubles and credit gazprom to
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gazprom, they already enter accordingly in rubles, well , you know, this is such a rather cunning approach to that and in they are also careful about this part, and hungary also accordingly understands this, but on the other hand, there is still, well, the will or political decision of the highest leadership of the european union regarding the fact that the sixth package is still after all, it was issued, it is also not ideal for us, but it is really a more serious influence on the russian federation, in particular, in terms of oil, and the european union has not only buns, but also means of pressure on hungary, this is, in particular, a question of financing within the european union for the union, this is in particular a question of planning the economy, yes, it may not be right away, well, it is actually a planned economy with certain wolves. yes, it is a question of quotas for each country, and so on. well,
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let it be for this year, for example. annual planning is a little longer yes, but everything will be fine in hungary, it is unlikely that they will make any relevant changes, but in the future they can remind her accordingly and can send an appropriate signal that dear eh, look here, it means there are certain nuances and well, we will have to resort to them accordingly therefore, now we are trying not to violate , let's say, the principle of equality in the european union. well, although we understand that, for example, germany and france are also somewhat more equal than appropriate. other countries are not just now trying to keep this unity and look for more, let's say, playing with plushies rather than conoton, but this whip is still in the hands of the european union and the highest governing bodies, it is about the direction in which it is possible to bypass the direct oil bark, now i ask you separately for statistics, so that our viewers understand not in the addition of the international
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energy agency on e-e independence from russian oil of various european countries of the european union, ie lithuania, which is not against oil cargo, 83% of oil from russia finland, which is not against oil colors 80% of oil from russia poland which is not against the oil embargo 58% of oil from russia hungary which is against 43%. a and e, now about other detours, before we spoke with you, we talked with vladislav, a foreign economist, he did not focus on another, instead of a direct embargo, he directs a ban on introducing an additional duty a on the same oil, for example 20%, and that this money should be conditionally aimed at our country for its development, for financing and so on, they say that in a year we are talking about 40-50 billion euros, and this is the way for your in my opinion, how realistic is it, if they do not
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agree to the embargo, to impose an additional duty, this is, in principle, the option that is also offered to ukraine, but the plan of bakfal yarmak means, in terms of sanctions, accordingly, it also does not provide for a proposal about the fact that not all funds are or not to return part of the funds to the russian federation, how to put them in a special account, respectively, there, which theoretically russia will be able to take away when it changes its behavior the scenario is really possible, but still, i think that it will be a certain political loss if you do not enter the borders of the borders that are currently being talked about in the european union, that is, the reporting deadline . months, and for a year, yes, in fact, it is
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possible there for other relevant ones, except for two months of prayer, yes, or 6 months are discussed for there in hungary, respectively, and slovakia, there are relevant exceptions. therefore, i still think that they will push, but it is also very important to really follow the topic when it comes to circumventing sanctions, which the sbu of ukraine talked about a lot, i think the same way on the air about mixtures, for example, and it was funny to hear the statements of the campaign there, if i'm wrong, that's already, but about the fact that they don't seem to have opportunities to spend the origin, although again this is a group of international experts of the fair, they clearly indicated in their such proposals and in their respective analysis that this is precisely one of those ways that are now actively used therefore, it is necessary to pay attention accordingly , and here i think that the european union
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should also listen to such a position, therefore, there are really many different options here, and i think that these are the options regarding the interest there, for example, an additional tax, this may be, in particular, the issue of gas. that again, the dependence of the european union on gas, it is definitely greater on russian gas than on oil, because you see, oil in general in the world is russian. it is somewhere around 9%. that is, it is not a problem at all to give up russian oil is only a matter of chains and those economic ties that exist today and here and there are different subjects not russian there for example companies but companies of specific words specific people specific politicians which are accordingly financed by all these chains that have already fallen out a long time ago and all the processes are accordingly quite complicated. but again, here, as they say, it takes a long time to harness, but then they can then
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go fairly quickly in this part. especially since, judging by in terms of the position of the west, he is, in general, well, this is an exception . perhaps there are individual countries, but he is interested in the victory of the corresponding ukraine, and without the sanctions pressure in part of the oil and gas embargo , well, it will be quite difficult to achieve this, respectively. will receive now the russian federation, we receive from it precisely from e-e oil and gas, respectively, and these are the funds that primarily go to the war and the last of those holes to which the previous sanctions, which unfortunately have a delayed the effect is now, mr. petrenko. increasingly, there is a conversation about uh, making changes to the regulation, the form is possible in the eu. and when the decision will not be made by consensus of all countries
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. everyone should take. how do you think this can be realistic? i am now asking in the context of the implementation of such a decision. you know, on the one hand, it seems that this is not a bad option, it is really possible to apply the procedure of qualified majority, e.g. qualified majority, when there are, for example, 2/3 of the country, if they are the origin of this vote, and then all the others must, accordingly, accept it is not a simple majority, when it is 50 + 1, yes, and accordingly, there deducting even these 2/3 from the total number of countries, but there are nuances here, which are that in principle the european union already has a lot of discussions... well, let's say about the sovereignty of ukraine, which are part of one side they share er there er extend
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their sovereignty in terms of certain competences to such a supranational entity as corresponding to the european union on the other hand well, it seems to remain sovereign states which means they can express their different er means er position yes they have unity in diversity, and in such a volume, it seems that consensus is the best option, and those decisions that are quite contradictory well, it is better to postpone it so as not to violate this unity, therefore there are the usual nuances from another point of view on the part of uh, well, we see unity in most countries, that is, but there are individual cases of uh, such uh, influence on countries by the russian federation, as , respectively, hungary, which, well, let's say, make a rather serious, accordingly destructive, uh, position uh- in fact, in the single position of the european union.
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please tell me that a separate position is possible. well, for example, what poland did at one time, she said, well, we will not buy you and tell you everything. this baltic country is the same. that is, it stays there alone and buys well, someone is there well, okay, theoretically they can at the level of er, that means national states are only part of the european union, they can make decisions independently. that is, you have already named specific cases of the countries of the european union that accordingly went for it, but the trick here is precisely that these were decisions of the entire european union, and these were the rules for all countries, respectively, of the european union, then it is the most serious, because if it is not , there will always be inconsistencies and uh, well, let's say the final cost of uh, this influence and
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sanctions, it will decrease accordingly, therefore there are, in principle, quite a lot of options and the impossibility of kneading in the same way, and really, it is only a matter of time, and so, in principle, the question of the sixth energy package and the selection pressure that it foresees is, well, let's say more light than it should be in fact, that's why hungary's position. well, we've already talked about it, she didn't understand. but again, i think that the european union is very interested, given the various discussions about the problems that arise there, attacks and all that kind of thing to show unity on this issue and still pressure the hungarians accordingly. it's just that if they can't reach an agreement on the oil embargo, they will seek a consensus on the prohibited gas import .
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question. i think that many of these options are already being worked out in fact at different levels within the european union within the framework of consultation with other states and uh, but the discussion will be much more in the context of the gas itself there will be much more colors and exclusions, respectively. well, this is clear, that is, if russia does not do something like bucha, unfortunately, this is cynical, of course, but, well, there are some other things like that from a number of coming out, respectively, things, hmm, well, this may once again make a little noise, according to this process. but again, there is pressure from other ukrainian partners from the united states of america, and also no contacts,
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according to european colleagues, there is pressure from britain . competition we see now britain and of the european union for the influence on the countries of eastern europe, yes, that is, well, this is a strong position of britain when it says there dear and baltic countries, yes, the countries of eastern europe, we are ready to provide you with corresponding weapons if you transfer them to ukraine, in particular, in terms of aircraft, and remember that america serves, well, they didn’t want to leave. britain also wanted to leave, so did the european union. that is, it’s another center of influence . in germany, who believe that it is the european union that should be the appropriate stream, that is, there are other factors of geopolitical cunning that have an impact on this, but that it will always go and it is quite difficult and that the introduction of sanctions is the painstaking diplomatic work of our diplomats
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, respectively yes there is the head of state of the president, this is a constant negotiation process here - this is a constant effort to understand the internal situation of each ukraine in order to really have the appropriate effect of the relevant ones and constantly we remind you of this in the fact that, dear, if you really want to squeeze the russian federation and put them in such conditions, when it will be as quickly as possible, understand the need to stop the aggression, well, this is only then, it is serious, accordingly sanctions without certain workarounds that are sometimes left behind . such are the rules of the stars, even the european countries themselves, but i think that the situation will be in our favor, although
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maybe a little slower than it should be would be to do well, in fact, it is clear . destroyed by the orcs, they dropped high-explosive and cluster shells directly on the heads of the civilians, they were amused by the way these rascals set fire to the houses, just like that, the residents had to carry out as quickly as possible all their valuables and icons and paintings, our daria tsesaruk, she went there and will tell if the peaceful residents have returned to nemishaev, let's see what a small miracle it was on the floor of the house. killed his entire
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family, his wife, son, and mother were hiding in a cellar a few meters away, shrapnel shattered the walls, knocked out the windows and damaged the door from their shelter. the shell, the explosion was so powerful that the wall and part of the roof collapsed, they took out six zilov, well, it was from the house, because it got stuck in the floor, and serhii got it from there. she stood on the windowsill where the frame flew apart. she was beaten by shrapnel, and the ss icon itself left her with the strength to live and even be in the house. it is dangerous that the rest of the roof could collapse in a minute, so that there would be some way to protect the house from wind and rain the mutilated house was covered with a film the other day,
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they will undertake the repair of the destroyed one. thank god that there was no one in the house because they were already there and we are rebuilding it. the films were already tightened. first of all, they came here to us constantly over the houses at 8:15 a.m. they had a changeover, then they picked up gasoline later kamazs with ammunition went and went, and they drove constantly, that is, they dragged it out so that they would look less because of the hail, they also dropped cluster and high-explosive shells, which, by the way, are prohibited by international humanitarian law, and oleksandr's house was set on fire at home there were 11 people then, the war had just started, they came here from the capital, hoping that it would be safer here, but ironically, they had to flee. and from here they came up, jumped out onto that roof and threw some kind of incendiary weapon . even more, they forced the neighbors to watch the
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house burn, the neighbors wanted to take something out, help, they did so. disperse. disperse. oleksandr hurriedly managed to remove the house engulfed in flames. only a few mother paintings are icons, everything else they have been i collected it with my wife, it turned into ashes, i didn’t have time to use a vacuum cleaner, and something like that pulled all the icons from the dressing room, a bottle of whiskey was standing, i think maybe there was some left. of this holy water that only the charred walls remained of the house that his father, a world war ii veteran, had built. alexander still cannot fathom whether he will have the strength to rebuild what was destroyed until he knows, he respected it the holiday of may 9 this year, i am no longer the marakobians, if my father had stood up and seen it, he would probably have
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changed it to a non-interfering vodaphone, the only news according to the materials, we will move on, friends, we will talk about the processes in the united states and, accordingly, support, including financial so the house of representatives of the united states intends in the near future to approve an updated package of aid to ukraine for almost 40 billion dollars. according to the words of an ally of our country, they do not doubt the victory of ukraine, they are ready to provide everything necessary for this, and he believes that such an unprecedented level of support will quickly change the situation on the battlefield. yes, we will switch to the russian language, e-e.
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tell me, please, 40 billion in the first place. why did they decide to increase it in the second place? could you open the cards what is the money, where will it be sent, and so on, that is , what is provided, this is help, well, the most important situation now is that helping ukraine will receive first aid eh, the weapon that ukraine needs for its victory, and how american energy has already been told, i don’t know how much, but the woman said that it seems that ukrainians, you play, come on, if we give them, i love you russians, when it will be easier, some kind of trailer, and specifically i victory in ukraine and on in the near future, about that money, and not yet 40
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billion u.s. dollars, it will be sent to ukraine, and some of it will be used by the soviet union to purchase weapons to replenish the united states' own stock. tell me clearly what part will be sent directly to our the country by purchasing weapons, transferring it to us by using any other help , exactly which is exactly what you said, and what were the americans buying a new gun for their army? ukraine will transfer a ps3 gun to you, and now this is the main situation. well, it means that in our store there will be exactly that and so carefully now that the buyers will leave for us under our protection, too, that is, they will change the place. and i have a problem immediately and urgently all of ukraine and while we are still while we are buying new toys for our soldiers, we correctly understand that in essence, this is a solution
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, this is a step. about the allocation of the next tranche of these , the soviet union in 40 billion euros indicates that there is full support from the two of political forces in fact, yes, despite the fact that now we hear some indignation, for some reason, from the mexicans, for example, they nod and say why are you allocating 40 billion there in ukraine, and did they allocate up to a tenth there or there yes 5 6 7 i don't remember exactly concrete figures but that's what it sounded like, why it's so much money, it's 40 billion, a game more polish than dvp ukraine, and so that it's also implemented, only it's in america, it's a lot of money , too . your expenses per hour этой греции 32 eh, there they hear такие если миллон человека, ah, well, imagine that we decided this
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, all this money and this weapon - to ukraine, and not to our christians, that is, people, of course, after measuring this, in fact, there were few people lying down, you can see a man who froze we need to help ukraine right away and we feel that things are urgent well, all the same, this is a question why everything is there and not here, and to us. in ukraine, this is war, not a question it only concerns only ukraine and russia, if russia does not go to the player, i honestly think that russia is not playing. the world really is a huge catastrophe, this is so important, the most important national issue in america is the war in ukraine, and a plus about mexico, let's be honest, they are not at war with russia, but their
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federation did not annihilate any territory, they are me again still uh are not in a turbulent state. well, that's why soryan, of course, but in general, i don't feel good about the border with the united states, and mr. smart managed to vote in the senate until may 19, and the senate will sign biden's increase in this aid, then because 13 billion 600 million dollars on may 19 , the situation there is not easy, and every hour you are dying in the war against drugs. what children, of course, hungry dough, thousands of finances, thousands of people, 25,000 people, yes. and christian, there are no more people on the street. who are killed, and there, that is, it is true, it is a harsh war, and this is in mariupol, at least 20,000 people were
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killed in 77 days of the war, so , well, we are not in favor of mexico now. on may 19, yes, and maybe something will go wrong ah, ordinary people from in order to look in ukraine, now i don't have any reason why i wouldn't have made it and why i didn't look for you then and a month ago i think that this will be a certificate, it can be a low level, i didn't go uhu eh us intelligence reports that putin is probably preparing for a protracted war. please tell me that this is information, that this news means for our country in the context of support from
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the united states of america, to what extent they are an exhaustible resource, that's what i have. and that's it. about him, i have no doubt that america will continue its baptism in ukraine. i also wanted to support you in ukraine as a democratic party now, which is easier for you congresses, but this is why it is important that the russians are now very much like a very long war - this is because of the fact that russia does he know if there is such a story that europeans are investigating their instructions if it continues in place 2 3 4 5 when it is money if it is two years
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