on our side against the russian and, after all, the belarusian enemies are increasing and every day there is already talk about the creation of even a second regiment of belarusian volunteers who will be on our side, there were already two regiments in pursuit who united two battalions it is still possible another one will be created. that is, this is an increase in the number of people who will already be ready with weapons in their hands. it is possible to return to belarus and overthrow this hated dictator, therefore, in an offensive from the north, there is a big question. but sumyshchyna is really now worries because the people there are still not restored in some regions, there is no electricity, there are no normal logistics. takes place in these regions. thank you vitaliy kulyk, director of the center for the

study of society's problems, or as our guest . and the address. greetings. good morning. good morning. germany is preparing for a sudden stop to the supply of russian gas. in principle, in order to withdraw from the import of russian energy carriers, and this also applies to coal, oil, and gaza, and the import of russian gas, here it is more difficult for germany than for other european countries, and also in comparison

there is oil and coal because there is part of the industry that is jealous of this import and now it is planned to refuse this import until the 23rd of the 24th of the year regarding military cooperation, i wanted to ask you, ihor mosiychuk , a deputy of the previous convocation of the parliament writes to himself today on facebook germany is again delaying the supply of heavy weapons to ukraine, the media gave a new reason, as it turned out, kyiv will have to order cheetah anti-aircraft guns promised by the government in germany, germany directly from the company manufacturer kraus of the wegman mafia, which manufactures weapons in germany, this was explained by a misunderstanding between the governments . as for me, this is another german misunderstanding. well, there is a misunderstanding, he would have called it another word for the letter, well , it is his, uh, his assessment multiplied by the desire to please the kremlin, is there really one here reasons for ukrainians to

suspect that there is some hand of the kremlin in that not all weapons are provided directly, they were promised. well, about three weeks ago, the deliveries of these are anti-aircraft complexes of modern cheetahs. is it really not a request, if you watched the what is happening to the german bundeswehr army over the past 20 years, you would not be surprised by such shameful situations because it we had many such incidents when there were no machine guns fired, helicopters did not fly, boats did not sail or not for the reasons, uh, it’s not worth it here, it’s like etoptirovat iz lishnie. how isn’t the unclean anti-ukrainian there about russia, these problems are uh, german weapons, they’ve been around for a long time, they

don’t belong to ukraine, and uh, it’s like that for germany, there are already many year's suspicious situation i now, we are just starting to work on it. a special budget was adopted, and i consider these difficulties with these weapons as just one more advantage of what we have been observing for many years, and yet there are, er, these solutions. now, deliveries of heavy weapons from germany eh ukraine and eh now if i'm correctly informed there, for example, ukrainian soldiers are trained to use german heavy eh equipment there, that's not how it happens. the best partner for in principle, it is not a better partner for military-technical cooperation, it has its advantages in other spheres of address. well, the fact that german weapons do not

shoot, or there are submarines floating or tanks do not drive, it is like a mercedes does not drive. excuse me, bmw or porsche, a german in ukraine sounds a little funny we thought the same thing, germany is already going and flying there, but now no, well, in general, the germans at the level of the government and at the level of society are somehow reviewing and what do we have and what can we fight back? for europe, berlin is not so far in general, yes, is there a calculation in germany and still more on its own strength, because in recent years and decades, even more, the calculation was precisely on the help of nato and, first of all, the united states, is there any revision of its own defense doctrine in general, an increase is possible expenses and on our own army and on armaments and types and the increase of the army itself, i ask. well, i think this is such a common pathology of military germany, which was under the

shield of the united states, and there we always had big contingents of american uh american weapons american uh soldiers and uh, that's why germany turned out to be in a very comfortable situation when washington, brussels, that is, nato and the usa, they cared about german national security, and this effect was even multiplied uh in the 1990s, with the collapse of the soviet bloc and the entry of the central eastern european countries into nato and the european union, and germany is simply what makes it so convenient geographically. in big eh alliances with the european union and in nato and for him national security does not appear to be a big problem and that's why there were three

10 years ago i didn't co-finance the german army and that's why all these shameful situations arise this year, in february, at the end of february, a new special budget was adopted, which, as it should be, will correct it, and it will not lead to the fact that the german army will become stronger . обой capable eh and eh in general, this is the composition in which she is today. i think that this is not so important, because we are now in such a convenient situation, as i have already said, the geopolitical situation about the economy, i wanted to

ask today that it became known that the german concern siemens, one of the largest manufacturers of such high-precision technological equipment and goods, is about to stop its activities in russia due to its aggression against ukraine. this was reported by the british agency routers. today we announced our decision on the orderly process of ending our industrial activities in the russian federation, said the ceo of siemens rolland bush. he added that the concern joins the international community condemned wars and focused on this ukraine humanitarian to help everyone in russia, more than 3,000 people work. why is the inclusion so late for almost three months of the war, and can we expect an increase in the list of german private companies or state-owned companies that cooperate with russia conduct their business there, please , as far as i know, quite a few companies have already announced that they are leaving из россии, this is also german and german

companies. that when these companies simply er, well, disappear. here they are working on the russian market, and er, it is definitely more difficult for this company to er exit in general. i would say that er, this exit of western firms from russia is rather more positive than this it is possible it would be expected that the experts on sanctions say that this is a voluntary departure of many people, hundreds of them, including very large western firms from russia, this is not a result not as a direct result of western sanctions, state sanctions, this is, in general, the effect of the departure, the sanctions experts did not expect so far that you do not yet have such very sensitive effects of the departure of these

companies from russia, they will most likely over time will accumulate eh and eh well, that's what i think many companies are leaving now, not only for humanitarian reasons, but also for strategic reasons . because they already see that the russian market will be much better. the depression session, analysts say, we can expect the real impact of these sanctions on the russian budget no earlier than somewhere in the fall, so that the russians simply ran out of money and started to run out of money, at least . nato, after all, the world economy from the ukrainian war, and whether it will lead to some kind of solution to its problems, it is very important that ukraine be supported not only now, but in six months, in a

year, if ukraine, if the war, god forbid it drags on , please. well, i am a little more optimistic about this so far, the trend is more like that support is increasing every month for the last 2.5 months, and because i also expect that there will be even more support to the end , such signals come from the european union and the united states and the second is that we will say to accept these sanctions - this is often a complicated process - we saw this in 14 years when they adopted very difficult, generally not very effective sanctions, and now in these two and a half months quite significant and quickly er large sanctions were adopted , and er, as well as accepting sanctions and withdrawing from these sanctions, this is such a slow, slow

process, so i think that even now these sanctions are more and more, they will continue to act and too, the departure of many firms, eh, and the partnership with russia on trade from investing this is all -e-e on a bonoe, and you can, and even if, if, if, if the european alliance and nato will be swept over, he will also switch on the second topic. remain and sanctions will also mostly remain eh there is no such question eh such a race of time that is there are some trends that benefit ukraine some trends eh and many trends of course eh tragic trend not in favor of ukraine and how so that the first thing happens, here is the effectiveness of sanctions trend trend no not in favor of ukraine the grain

sold by russia may be stolen from the occupied territories of ukraine the ukrainian ministry of foreign affairs reports everything about it any country that knowingly buys stolen grain is an accomplice in the crime russian occupiers seize ukrainian grain and direct it for their own consumption or try to sell it on international markets markets, the ukrainian ministry of foreign affairs has warned the consumer countries that the batches of grain sold by the russian federation may partially or even completely contain stolen ukrainian grain the grain was obtained as a result of marauding actions of the russian occupation authorities, because in the theft of food resources from the territory of a sovereign state and one of the manifestations of looting, and according to the information of the ukrainian government, the occupiers stole at least 500,000 tons of grain in the amount of more than 100 million dollars and practically all ships that go with grain to sevastopol they transport stolen ukrainian products, the ministry of foreign affairs emphasized what to do, how to react, how to change the situation, part of the ships are already students standing in the mediterranean sea, heading there to syria

syria can be resold in other countries under the guise of syrian grain or any other by-products. i ask for your word. yes, this is of course in such an aspect that it seems to me that it is very necessary to highlight for uh, i'm a western heater that's like that . i think it's an unexpected uh-uh turn uh, this is definitely uh, now it's translating, too, uh, this whole conflict to another level because, well, these are the problems, uh, it's not just russian-ukrainian anymore, and it already includes other countries, uh, i not ready there yet something unequivocal er say this is also new for me such a er such a topic i think it is necessary to talk about it as long as possible because this is the kind of problem they are for the western

partners of ukraine they illustrate well that this it's not just a regional conflict that this conflict is from the whole world and that's uh, well, if there are other topics - it's uh, refugees - it's there, uh, the non-proliferation regime of nuclear weapons, it's uh, uh , the safety of ukrainian nuclear weapons power stations and so on, that's the mouth of the topic they are mine it seems that they are necessary. they are necessary. it is necessary to speak often and in detail in order to make it clear to the west that the issue here is not only in solidarity with ukraine, but also in its own security. thank you. andreas umaland, german political scientist, analyst of stockholm of the center for the study of eastern europe and andriy reva is already in touch with us, the minister of

social policy of ukraine in 2016-2019. we welcome you. good day, andriy. we have also finished about grain. please comment. you were the minister of social policy as you see now the civilized world is solving this problem, so that russia does not sell stolen ukrainian grain on world markets, please very simply introduce embargoes and savings , financial and economic sanctions against those countries that steal, only steal, do not buy, if it is possible to track it, how can it be banned ? in fact, it is russian, but not in russia, the same way, they have already stolen the grain, poured it into a heap and sold it to the whole world, if they stole it, they sell it to the whole world, then in any case, the grain that we sell, you sell with certain documents, if you transfer this grain

to forged documents, of course, it is all absolutely possible to calculate, it would only be wishful thinking. it’s just that if someone wants to turn a blind eye to these repurchasing stolen purchases, it’s stolen, that’s another question, and in principle, if they want to stop this looting and this disgrace, what what is happening now is considered a crime, so of course you need to introduce sanctions against those countries that buy stolen goods. that is all the more to your specialization in social protection. how do you provide social assistance? well, i will talk about the un a little later with from my own experience, i will tell you how you assess the current level of social payments under the program of the government and the president of 6,500. a lot of people in our country have not received this payment until now, as well as payments of about uah 2,000 . many registered people still seem to have not received it during why have several

oblasts already been excluded from this list, in particular , kyiv and kyiv, but people have not yet received aid payments to temporarily displaced persons and for support as a result , due to the start of the war, 6,500, we do not have enough money it's just the government or is it possible that there are some other reasons why people don't receive these funds, please well, here you can answer accordingly with the words of a famous cartoon character, do you remember the tool we have a mask mania is enough excuse me, how could the ministry of social policy be underfunded during the first review of the budget with at the beginning of the war, to deprive another 32 billion hryvnias, and when they cut social expenditures that were planned, of course, any expansion of programs could not be financed, because basic water was practically not provided with money

then when they increased the aid for displaced persons to 2,000 for adults and 3,000 for children. well, imagine it was 442 uah per adult, 880 uah for children, by how much the amount of the aid itself increased and plus. add to this the increase in the number of displaced people. i remember with us there was somewhere around 1 .5 million resettled internally displaced persons. and now there are four times more than six million. of course, this required additional financial costs, and instead of making them, they took them, reduced these costs, and therefore everyone wonders why they are not paid, because you simply do not finance this program. and the second thing is that they made changes to the decree itself, and now, for example, from may 1, not all internal persons will receive this assistance in those where hostilities have ended, the houses of displaced persons have not been destroyed, then they have stopped paying

assistance to such people. imagine people who moved, for example, from chernihiv or sumy are in a safer area , they are there, and now they cannot return to their homes, even if they are not destroyed, because the social infrastructure, communal infrastructure has not been restored there. there are no normally functioning hospitals, there are no communal services, there is not much, and they could not return home, but where they are, they were also deprived of their payment . it is enough to summarize and name everything that is currently happening in the social policy of ukraine. this is not the only problem, but the problem . the bank, but smilyansky shouted because in fact the

pensioners received the state enterprise ukrposhta , he did not work in the interests of the pensioners, the pensioners were paid by ukrposhta to deliver pensions , the result today is even in those territories where hostilities are still under ukrainian control, and the ukrainian government should deliver pension, a car for ukrposhta, well, it is extremely expensive. and we saw examples when in the zaporizhzhia region, the occupiers simply shot ukrposhta workers and they could not deliver pensions to our people, this is the price of those mistakes that the government made and will continue to miss , it will be over after the third month of the war. they still cannot make a decision on the transfer of these social payments through e-e banks and people are suffering from this, not only has the money been reduced, but also the delivery system itself is not perfect because of this well , it really fell out without problems from may 1, and kyiv was less affected, but the kyiv region together with the sumy chernihiv region, that is, if a person

came to some bucha there, for example, or to gostomel, which is almost destroyed there, nothing works only now are some grocery stores starting to work there, but he either moves there and lives there or does not receive these 200 at all from may 1, a person will no longer receive even if he has one house in the village, in another, two thousand have been destroyed around you you don't have the right to receive correctly, i understood absolutely correctly, moreover, the local authorities say do not go because we are not ready to receive you correctly well, in fact , you cannot be there because the government has deprived them of their payments, whatever it is difficult to call it, well, i'm sorry, it got out, but it's different they are simply not called well, tell me what the prospect is, after all, people, because 6,500 some people kept some did not get it, there is also some kind of social inequality . will

this money be paid anyway or have they already forgotten about it and these 2,000 hryvnias will be money for this or not is it possible to use some donetsk money for it are you our western partners for these payments or not do we cover this exclusively from our we have such a wonderful minister of finance and marchenko in the mail, who stated that the deficit of the state budget of ukraine is about 5 billion dollars every month. that is, the funds are not enough to cover all state budget expenditures. a journalist asks him a question. please tell me if it is possible to reduce some state budget expenditures. well, for example, the payment of debts, we are a warring country, we have force majeure circumstances. let's restructure foreign debts. and this is one of the largest items of ukrainian budget expenditures, marchenko said . marchenko said i don't see any problems with debt service. what do you think is logical ? yes, you don't have enough. 5 billion is the biggest item of expenditure here. come on, we'll

settle it somehow. and he says: no, we don't have any problems with that . a representative of the state department says that ukraine needs to write off its debts, and the minister of finance says that he has no problems with servicing them, why is this happening and because the minister of finance sees his future place of work in international financial structures, as mr. kachur works the former deputy minister of finance, as nataliya yaresko works, the former minister of finance, as mr. roskovan works, as ms. markarova will work after her diplomatic career, and therefore if he raises the question today about debt restructuring, he will lose his job in the future and that is why today he is not thinking about ukraine, not about ukrainians. and about where he will be tomorrow, all the more, do you remember his statement that he does not count on a ukrainian pension as a forty-year-old. and you will ask him if you will live a he is designed for a different job than the one that will be paid by the corporate fund of the international financial structure, so as long as we have

such tokens for the government, then people will not receive their 6.5 thousand hryvnias, because the priorities of this government and this minister of finance are completely different. do not concern social protection, if he would never have included in the draft budget the reduction of social expenses by 32 billion, it seems that in august or in september, ukraine must pay 1 billion dollars there for external borrowings plus or minus, this is, well, this is a significant amount of money in the conditions of war, it is obvious that if it really happened, it would write off our previous debts and protect the financial institution, they are preparing to do it, they hint at it, but in ukrainian the government says there are no problems, we will pay everything, everything is fine, we have the money, but 2,200 is all yes, there is no money for two and 6,500, it’s true 2,200 i wanted to ask you i just yesterday dealt with this issue of how payments from the un are paid, there it turns out to be the same mess as in ukraine , even a bigger mess because by electronic queue electronic queue there is no internet there is no, you can only

sign up for an appointment in the order of a live queue, how does it happen, there is no website, there are two telegram bots, one charity fund and other telegram bots , e-e chat channel, directly from oniv, what kind of message just comes, people ask how to submit, yes the answer is due to the great demand for registration at most points there is a queue for registration due to live people standing in the sun, the possibility of online registration is unpredictable , locations accept those who have already registered in the queue earlier on the spot you can sign up for the queue for the following days, new registration is limited to a week in advance registration for submitting documents only after reaching the number of registrations that the location will be able to process registration will be stopped according to the movement of the queue you can watch in the telegram channel access to which you get during the first registration in the queue on the spot, when you will be given a number to register in the queue, no documents are required, i.e. to receive a number, we will inform you of the opening of registration for each

point in the work schedule before registration, please check if there is a registration in the queue all relevant information about the opening and closing of entries in the queue is in the fixed schedule, the work schedule for the next day is published once a day in the evening after 22:00, when we will process all the requests of the current day. of the united nations, which pays every ukrainian as much as €65 a month to every business, it seems to me that this is simply a humiliation. well, when i worked as a minister, i had problems with un institutions, they came to us and told me how to do it to pay pensions in the occupied territories and when he said that there are minsk agreements and the order there should be after the prescribed minsk agreements, there is a seventh point when we fulfill the first six, then there will be state structures for the restoration of my

territories, then we will be able to pay pensions through them , and one of these luka benyaki, as i remember his name, he told me that in syria, our race pays pensions in the territories of the occupied indians . what did they do? they attached the collection of documents to public organizations. well, public organizations exist in ukraine on paper. and you tell me the location, which locations. they write there. i don’t know there is an apartment, there is registration and so on, but children have the right to protection in lviv, it’s called a charity fund . well, look at these charitable funds, they have to rent some premises, they do not have such resources, accordingly, these locations are very few. and this is where all the things you just said about begin. the institution is true, it's not a public organization.

we have, uh, we have a department of social protection of the population throughout the country, they register internally displaced persons. tell me, who among the internally displaced persons will not apply for such help? well, surely we will all apply now. why can't the un say that give us lists of people who have registered internal displacement of persons and we will measure the receipt of funding, we will finance them, pay them this assistance without them going to any locations, so that they receive did you catch sms messages from these benefactors or do you know any others? if you want to do something, you are looking for the simplest possible implementation option. if you want to confuse the situation or, for example, i don’t know, well, it is purely theoretical so that this money does not reach these people and reaches some others. then all these things begin in the hope that people will not apply, people don't deserve the queue and so on, this is pure bullying , confess that's why i would, for example, see to it that our

soldiers have representatives, we have a corresponding ministry of foreign affairs, which is not possible to influence officials from the un and force them to work according to normal rules through state institutions that will report to them on the payments of this money, why are you doing all this through, i'm sorry , completely different mechanisms and in another way, you just create problems for people ago, i believe that this is again an indicator of the work of our government, which is not perfected, which should have protected our people. thank you, mr. andrii reva , for the social policy of ukraine in the 119th year. to the secretary general, put things in order, because it turns out that people spend several hours to sign up in line for theirs, stand in line to sign up for submitting documents, then a week of 10 days passes