don't be afraid, thank you for this analysis vitaly kurylo , head of the sacred council of shevchenko luhansk university, ex-people's deputy of ukraine thank you once again for this inclusion and now we are adding to our conversation ivan stupak, a former employee of the security service of ukraine, a consultant to the verkhovna rada committee on national security , experts from a ukrainian institute of the future , ivan, we congratulate you, glory to ukraine, congratulations, i congratulate you , only the regalia, well, we are trying to remember everything, it is you, ivan, we have not finished our work. to inform our tv viewers that the russian troops are actively shelling both the east and the south of our country, storming the donetsk region, and such attempts, but there are certain successes of the armed forces of ukraine in the kharkiv direction, as we can see, they could give us some kind of understanding of the overall picture, as antin says in the theater hostilities, yes, in order to understand what is happening at the front right now, i am asking the ukrainians, the armed forces of ukraine are beating the russians and we are seeing

the results. everyone wanted quick results, but there were no quick results , they are a little delayed but they are kyiv region chernihiv region is already kharkiv region, that is, the process continues, we see that the russians are leaving and the main thing is that i saw a wild howl in the russian pubs like that we are leaving and what is next belgorod kursk and voronezh what is next , that is, for them it is very, very such a moral loss and a moral blow is very strong. well , we understand the issue of a very strong, not a moral blow, a physical blow. mariupol remains an enraged bloody wound not only among our military, but also among our society in general and regularly we see and hear various appeals, but the enemy does not give

in and generally completely ignores them. well, i don’t know the requirements of war, the laws of humanity, that is, everything is drummed up and it seems that they really want to destroy the guys, but the guys signaled, in particular, on our broadcast that there are certain military chances, of course we are not asking you to reveal any secret plans, but at least indicate whether there is a hypothetical possibility, so to speak, to make a mariupol miracle, look, there are always chances, always in everything, even well, there are no chances when the land is already falls on the lid of the house, that is, then there are no chances a-a there are three options for the released guys, either the russians leave mariupol on their own, or we break through the corridor to mariupol, we take out our heroes , the third option - it has already been announced. of its territory, that is, well, conditionally, it is

turkey. i am no longer sure that the russians will not go for it, because for them all these guys are there and azov is there and the border guards are there and the marines are all these guys, this is simply the quintessence of nazism in in ukraine, that is, everything they broadcast on their television, and bandera there are fascists, nazis, this is all compensation for all these guys and they simply cannot release them, that is, they can either take them prisoner or completely destroy them, of course there are chances for diplomacy and however, this is necessary, for this a very large amount of military effort is needed, i am sure that our military is working in this direction and kharkiv, the liberation of kharkiv oblast is the next such step to the possible liberation, baby, a very important moment well, i would like to be with you now to analyze the so-called logic of missile attacks, well, information has arrived from our informants, but the information is not secret, so from

the main base of the black sea fleet to the temporarily occupied sevastopol, almost all the ships of the russian federation with missile weapons have been withdrawn from the sea, there is a minimum number of ships from the other side, there were no powerful ones today five shellings in our country, it feels like they are waiting for hour x, and maybe they are planning to concentrate fire copper in some specific tell the region about it, try to explain it happened, well, as far as we can see from open sources , there was a change of the so-called curators of this well, the so-called special operation on the part of the russian special services. was very dissatisfied, now this whole operation has been connected to the reports of the main directorate of the general staff of the

russian federation - this is the so-called military intelligence. i am sure that such friction between the command of all levels i.e., they are kicking out the leadership of the russian fsb, they are bringing in these special forces, these spices from military intelligence, maybe this also affects the fact that there is a certain comfort there now, maybe they are distributing roles here and there, let's remove the head with changes to this one, that is, such backroom games well, in principle, how is everything is happening in russia, and on the other hand, they have a problem with intelligence. we have seen many times when they threw their missiles at places where there were military facilities 20-30 years ago, but now they are no longer there. that is, this shows unequivocally about the shortcomings of their intelligence. perhaps they are trying to eliminate and localize these shortcomings, but i am not sure that it is visible in them.

you are one of my favorite military experts, in particular, you have now confirmed your exceptional qualifications. i will tell you how this manifested itself, because there are a lot of so-called military experts there , specialists from all the soldiers and so on, they start telling us about the russian game, there are no more grushanov participants in the parade, which was very well described by mr. administration of the general staff of the russian federation well, so to speak, you can call them differently there. well, this is not a game, this is the main administration here, mr. ivan very correctly pointed out that the operation will now be managed purely by the military, because the fsb, so to speak, version of the concept failed, or rather, our guys and they failed, but we see that in the south they just talked with khrestina and a guy from the mykolaiv region very, very tensely and they are concentrating there, they are jamming and they are driving further and

so on. it seems that there could be a second behind the theater of hostilities is no less important than in kherson than in kharkiv oblast. that is, it is odesa and mykolaiv oblast, so in fixi's idea there is such an e-e about unification with transnistria, that is, for this, all this swings. that is, they would like to see on their map when they united everything so beautifully from donetsk there to zaporizhzhia to kherson and then to tiraspol, and then they can also seize moldova there, that is, they are drawing a picture of the general staff in the kremlin . i see that they do not succeed in the big one odessans themselves play a role in this. russians used to see odessa as such a pro-russian minister . where are there many people with russian views there, the same brand, party, family, he is there,

he says that all odessans are like one for russia, you remember david markovich near the operation, well, the liquidation series, and such russians have the false impression that odessa is in principle for them, but the nazis hold them, and therefore they still need to be suppressed. i speak for inner strength luhansk, donetsk, and crimea were squeezed out first of all thanks to, well, in quotation marks, the internal forces that played along with the russians, that is, we can somehow make it so that they urgently get on the kayaks and start raking from kherson through the dnipro to mykolaiv and to the kherson region, look, they are very confused that there is no pro-russian groups don't have masks with russian flags, they are forced to import even these buffoons there from this eldner pushilina, they brought

him there and showed him there, he also brought some kind of mask with him they are trying to make some appearance in relation to many people for russia, but it is not possible even for internal use, that is why they decided to leave. thus, let's cut, let's get rid of the referendums at once, we will attach all passports at once, we will distribute passports to those who will not take them, so we will turn off the gas, that is, we will squeeze as much as possible. of my questions now, which are bothering me a lot, and we are talking about, in particular, understanding that the russian federation is targeting the e-logistics in all ways that we are going both in ukraine and on the territory of our country everything that helps us to defend ourselves here is not only about weapons here, but also about humanitarian aid, about all those cargoes without which a more or less normal life is impossible, we mentioned odesa, we understand why they beat the bridge over the dnipro and the dnistrovsky liman , for example, yes, we will remember a lot other different

precedents, and in connection with this, the question arises whether there are any threats from the side of the belarusian side, in particular, in western ukraine , where for the most part this help for us from our partners comes, a lot of analysis, but it is interesting exactly your opinion, accordingly, your question is our territory, including the western regions, they are fired from any territory from the black sea, from the caspian territory, from belarus, that is, for these missiles, winged politically well, there are no such borders there, these are daggers that they use they fly along the border from the plane, they released e-e, they are trying to hit our logistical facilities, but what is the great advantage of ukraine?

the first one will come in, one hundred or one and a half hundred javils will burn this advanced group of theirs, they will not be sad, there is more than a certain probability, but i see that lukashenko refuses for the second time, ukraine will not bring all this aid in echelons, that is, there is no such echelon 60 wagons are being driven there, with flashing beacons, escorted by the police so that we can hit the russian drones, there is no such thing , i’ll just say literally there a few hours ago, i came to one of the western regions, i won’t say in which direction i saw that one by one, one by one cars with the help of i see that they are carrying equipment there under a tarpaulin under an awning i see that from the shape of the drawing that it is definitely not ukrainian equipment and from the coloring it is definitely not ukrainian equipment and it is moving er tactically like an ant, that is, an ant ant by different roads friend now

by significant roads by three-way roads and this is very, very difficult for the russians immediately in our ukraine on specific logistics chains channels we will say yes and another thing is to complicate er this movement of aid for us er purely military situation on the ground, and here i will quote voloshin's authorities, in particular with his assumptions, western domestic intelligence does not rule out a scenario with provocations that should involve belarus in a war, there is a huge threat that this time it will be used, uncle, to involve belarus in a war, it could be military personnel in belarusian form, but in fact they will not be russian mercenaries. belarus does not belong to itself. lukashenko does not belong to itself. roman bochkala also speaks about this in particular. what do you think? look at lukashenko, whatever she is. they called

lukashenko some epithets, but we know how to pronounce lukashenka. well, i will give credit. only in that his cunning has allowed him to avoid a confrontation with putin for so many years. putin constantly put pressure on him, demanding certain concessions . in business there , uh, if lukashenko doesn't go to big business, he doesn't even go to russian citizens, he puts them in prisons, and the russians what, well, they put him there well, they put him there, that is, he shows his politics, i'm more than sure that his cunning is at the level dna and here is the collective farm trick, it will allow him to avoid such a big mistake as pulling into the ukrainian meat grinder. well, when he talks about the meeting with his military command, in particular, about what we have to draw conclusions from the war and somehow adapt our army to possible challenges, this he is talking about, after all, the concentration of ukrainian forces in their southern

direction, or perhaps a completely different story that will develop in the future. maybe when the russians will have an armed claim to belarus. exactly i agree with your logic, look at it this way when he said that it is necessary to take an example from ukraine, that ah, such massed groups, tank strike groups, there is an accumulation of manpower, it did not justify itself, that is, ukrainian tactics of dynamic defense, when they got there, they hit 2- 3 tanks left, and it was more effective and he liked it very much, in this way he indicated with his army to take an example from ukraine, that's all, that is, in this way he shows that russian tactics are russian, uh, classic military school did not justify it at all and he refuses it , but on the other hand he does give er passive to

russia and we will buy you s400 or from 300 or we will buy something else, that is, on the one hand he takes the example of ukraine and on the other hand he says we will to buy, that is, there is a ruse in this, it is manifested very strongly, well, a ruse is a ruse, we understand that in the north of our country, they have become more active, we are talking about chaotic shelling, for example , chernihiv oblast or sumy oblast, but i don’t know from a military point of view, they are meaningless but nevertheless, they do it, they try so hard to terrorize the local population so that they stress our general staff accordingly in order to distract part of the forces. is this already starting some other scenario, maybe klitschko said that he generally calmed down our fellow romanians, he says that they say you are feeling, dear kyivans, not it is excluded, and there is a whole pool of experts who confirmed this case, honestly, i do not rule out such a possibility, inconsistency , inconsistency of the actions of the russian army, therefore, honestly,

i do not see the logic if it was massed there an attack on some of our warehouses there, for example, there . one day there were warehouses in this region, another day on other warehouses, ah, these attacks and shelling were coordinated there in time, but here and there they hit the school, well, the question what was there in this school, maybe it let them down intelligence that intelligence could say that here in this school there is a game somewhere. put javelins and they don't check this information or they don't have the opportunity. this happens because of russian development or the gunners also gave those coordinates. well, but in fact there is another problem with problem question the use of territorial defense fighters on the front lines in particular, i would like to remind you that at the legislative level our history has somewhat improved and now representatives of the territorial defense can be redeployed from the borders of the territory they defend

, in particular, to reinforce the armed forces . points well and so on, but there is a certain problem, as we can see now, of the late entry into force of the law on territorial defense, well, just one and a half months before it began a large-scale invasion a-a a certain misunderstanding of how it works not an understanding of the fact that it would be necessary to prepare for this and there is little time already in the course of all actions e please tell e-e whether in your opinion the use of territorial defense is justified front line and whether it is active - this is practice, i will tell you, look. yes, you are right in saying that this terroboron was already created in the form it is now, i took part back in 2020, and

at the beginning of the creation of this law, but there certain political processes were involved and there appeared people who are trying to take over the command. and what will they have? we won't have it. that is, it has stalled, but we have what we have. as the classic said, no, but now look, i know what these people are they are not fired upon, well, the representatives of the security forces of the employees do not have military experience . they will not be involved in active hostilities, as they say on the front, they will be used more in auxiliary patrols somewhere, they will help, and there are certain clearings however, under the command of the armed forces or the forces of special operations, and thirdly, they will be used for the protection of objects, for example, there conditionally guarding the warehouse there where i already said 50 soldiers of the national guard, even if they were very important, they would be appropriate somewhere on the front line. and yes, 50 soldiers they

guard one warehouse. that is, it is possible to reduce the number of, for example, 10 demons of the national guard, 40 anti-aircraft troops, that is, more experienced and firm, it is commanded by less experienced anti-aircraft soldiers. that is, it will also be possible to have 40 soldiers. we have an advantage that can take part in hostilities. that is, they will be used for this purpose. well, signals are regularly received there. well, we will not go into detail now. well, but there, for example, my comrade is currently serving there. mykola savelov is the editor-in-chief of the town hall newspaper in the terrorist defense, so they they threw it and gave it to zero for some reason, that is, he is very surprised, as they say, i am talking to his wife. she says what to do , but i don’t know, ivan. can you tell me what to do in such situations when tireoshniks get on zero and they are simply understood by them ca rifle infantry is an infantry unit and here is a little different kolinkor and i literally yesterday had such a conversation with the head of the middle echelon in the teroboron and he

says that we had a lot of advice on this matter that the ban on sending to the front not fired upon teroboronov, that is, what is now an example. well, i really want to believe that this is a force majeure or something, some local leaders. this is an isolated case, i want to believe that there is another case in particular in sumy oblast. i have information, uh , also about the fact that the guys who had contracts in tyreo, in particular, at one time, the story with their contracts ends in a strange way, either with some kind of fire or simply by disappearing, and they start to be counted as mobilized in particular it is possible in general it is possible yesterday just this case was considered the law on mobilization all of them already fell under the category of mobilized uhu everything is clear mr. ivan well if

so to speak such operational questions arose from on this occasion, we will contact you ivan stupak, a military expert, a former, so to speak , informed james bond of our glorious state, worked live on the espresso tv channel, for which we thank him immensely. to get in touch with the speaker, i honestly want to tell our viewers about the story of two scouts from the lviv 80th separate airborne assault brigade who found an observation post of russian soldiers and were called to themselves, the fire of ukrainian artillery without destroying the occupiers, and it is clear that they are awarded orders for this. for courage, in my opinion, such stories simply need to be told so that in general our citizens have an

awareness of what incredible people we live next to and what kind of people are capable of what deeds in order to to protect all of us, the brigade said that during the preparation of the unit for an offensive operation in the southern direction, you paratroopers were instructed to conduct reconnaissance and identify the enemy's observation posts and their locations deployments, they quickly coped with this task , they also found posts and occupiers in the nearby forest, it was about a small farm, where they were stationed in the number of dozens, er, it begins such a very traditional for er, an eye-to-eye clash of history and the tyrant, taking advantage of the moment, the scouts leave not far away they quickly transmit the coordinates of this farm to the headquarters so that an artillery strike can be carried out on it. at the same time, they were only 100 m from the concentration of the enemy.

po po i don't know about vistra leza and in the end you see the risk paid off incredibly in my opinion the history of ukraine well, why don't we include yaroslav romanchuk anyway let's talk more especially since we have what to do what do you have with the new important information the russian occupiers rejected the possibility of extracting the military from of azovstal, in particular, the leader of the bank of the group of the so -called dpr, pushylin, confirmed that russian forces continue to try to capture azovstal in mariupol and rejected the possibility of extraction. so, the direct speech of this war criminal there on azov steel has already everything is going according to plan, everything is understandable, there are no lying pushylins, that is why our units completely associate themselves with the russian occupiers, they can cool-headedly and with clear calculations bring this

situation to its logical conclusion. why did they decide that external forces should pay attention to this - says the criminal both for us and russia i am talking about all kinds of scarecrows listen but this is not a tradition they are trying to reach an honorable surrender but what an honorable surrender why should we go this way says pushylin demanding that the defenders of azovstal laid down their weapons and went to the tribunal. here is a very important point, that is, he is still talking about external forces, which, in the opinion of this bandit, should not pay attention to this, but the whole world is already talking about the defenders of mariupol , who are in azovstal, that is, the involvement of external forces hurts the russians. we do not know the players who demand to observe the laws of war. well, there is only one question that worries

me: the association of pushilin with the russian federation. the ukrainian is negotiating with someone widespread there, it would be most likely that the conversations about the possible abstraction or evacuation of at least our wounded soldiers are held at a high level with real people who make some specific decisions, at least they have this functionality in their hands, because there it says, of course you can listen, but less, but it seems to me that the decision is by no means up to him, not up to him, but, of course , he does not accept it, but it is common. big russian leaders who are engaged in atrocities in the south of our country, so to speak, so here it is, well, he demonstrates the policy of the russian federation regarding extraction, nevertheless,

our defenders and their relatives continue to call on the world to talk about mariupol by all available methods and channels, and so yesterday the two wives of the azovstal defenders even had the opportunity to send their letters from themselves, so to speak, in particular to pope francis. as far as i know , a letter from the head of the ukrainian the orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate, and onufria should know that. well, it is quite difficult for me to analyze. if you have any guesses, please share them. no, there is a political moment, and there is also a christian moment. that i am not a priest, but as i understand onufriy could be afraid of the pressure that is regularly

exerted on his church from the other side. sees it, well, onufriy is in ukraine, he understands. in other words, his former position was so russophile, or there openly about moskovska was to change. i don’t know here, it’s just necessary that fellow journalists who have the opportunity, who specialize in church topics, approach onufriy and question him in detail so that he outlines who is putin, who is gundyaev, what is russian intervention , so that he gives his assessment of the crimes committed by the russian federation, after that we will be able to really find out what is the position of unufry, but what he participated in this, this is also a certain signal that he does not want to participate in further responsibility for russian crimes because what is happening is very serious. does this mean an indulgence for the future for what was done at least until the

24th ? we understand that the war struck a huge rough line and is being reinstalled in general, the assessment throughout the country we understand well, we understand how huge the revolution, i am not afraid of this word, morally spiritual, took place and there will be a lot of journalistic circles with about the indulgence, i just mentioned the movement. honestly , at least it was from them that i saw this appeal , in fact, to the president of ukraine and the minister of culture , information policy, the appeal of ukrainian journalists and human rights organizations, in which they call for the removal from participation in national telethons of presenters who for many years played along with the enemy and spread kremlin propaganda, who do they mean by the presenters who, even before the large-scale invasion of the enemy, spread pro-russian propaganda on national airwaves marathons, the only news from freedom and other media

sites that call themselves national, the text of the appeal states that the first thing is about the suspension of vasyl golovanov and the game against martirosyan, natasha vlaschenko, tetyana goncharova, nazar long, volodymyr polueva, anna stepanets and anastasia daugule. people, if they worked on tv channels that belonged to the property of a person who is now held by everyone, in particular, it is about mr. medvedchuk well, what are we talking about, that is what kind of news can they present now during the war of russian aggression? that is, well, this is a completely natural question. and we know that the movement is honestly political in its essence and i know a lot of figures from there. so this is a very serious signal, in any case, if we say yes, we urge you to support tv channels from the press by signing the petition, and i will not ask you to actually sign this appeal, if you have to ask in any way, i will ask in particular in the journalistic

media e-e community, but you have to give an assessment it's fair and as they say it's right it's right now it's right a chance yes after the revolution of dignity after the second maidan yes but then they again jumped into this pro-russian buckwheat and started to produce this all multiply russian bradbury was engaged in until 2014 well, i'm not very good either i did it because i was young and in general, let’s say, i lived in another region. well, some of them have a lot of professional history . i don’t even know who would be seriously interested there, you understand, but in any case, if this television and radio broadcasting, which was supposed to do its work regularly all these years, questions about them also remain with us, news, news, that is, news