we hear that as of today, as of yesterday , as of this month, as of this week, there are no concrete military solutions to this situation, proposals for even military solutions, and now he is talking about extra action, what is needed, what are the arguments that can be effective for our enemy if he allowed this extraction to be carried out, because today, in particular, the so -called head of the so-called dpr sent the name of this person and said that they would never agree to this in their life, what arguments can to work, well, spreading it doesn’t solve anything at all, so the sailor is the only one person who can agree to er, more precisely, who can influence this situation and solve it, it’s putin today and ah, unfortunately, we have to find a way that would er could convince putin to give an order to

carry out the procedure how terrible is the first moment the second moment er by the way, i would like to remind you that there is no official consent of turkey who will act as a third party and we are not even prepared for this even if if we let's press putin. so who will conduct this procedure of turkey's official response? we haven't received it yet. and you? in general, i think so. well, first of all, the secretary general of the un, he started this procedure and abandoned it. he helped. we thank him for bringing the civil but he gave up halfway, caught him, shook his hand, hugged him and went home, and then where is the red cross in relation to the wounded. especially since he is wounded .

a serviceman who is deprived of the opportunity to resist already automatically falls under the protection of the geneva convention on military personnel in the field of pain, that's why it's very strange that the united nations is somehow aloof today and we're left again i am alone with this huge problem, but tell me one more clarification. well, i do not immediately say that it is not a military man, not a military man, not a military expert. i will ask you this question. when we talk about extraction, turkey is very often heard. well, that's why. that turkey can somehow fit the ships by sea. and it can be in a different sax format - it happens that they will take the guys by air and in this way it can be any country other than turkey, such an option is possible, see let 's yes turkey appeared

there e from our words why because once ra one time er raja cardigan offered us er a convoy of civilian ships to evacuate the civilian population from mariupol it was at the very beginning when there was a problem with we could not start evacuation civilians from this city and that's why we're still going to talk about the fact that turkey will agree, although turkey's official position to date does not exist as far as how the evacuation itself is carried out, i think that if we may not necessarily be turkish, it may be any country the fact is that today there is no world experience of dunkirk, it does not fall under the procedure as scary the only thing that can more or less be considered as an extraction procedure is

the year 1976 uganda when the special forces of israel conducted the extraction of hostages from the plane of israeli citizens, but at that time the extraction took place with the help of special forces, which destroyed all the terrorists resisting, in fact, it was actually an armed breakthrough of the special forces well, here we were already flying planes, we helicopters flew there and i will remind you that the president himself personally told that there was a flight and several flights and when the russians did not learn this route, they shot down the plane, the helicopter, more precisely, i'm sorry . therefore, for today, it is another problem to negotiate one on one with russia. i think it is not worth it , because russia can either deceive or simply not go

to negotiations with us or give an ultimatum , surrender or extraction, that is why there must be a third party that does not accept participation in the conflict and which will provide guarantees that the servicemen who will be evacuated using this procedure until the end of the armed conflict or until the end of the war will not return to ukraine and will not come to take part in hostilities mr. kosyuk has three brands, in short, if you know what i heard that now oleg said what you said is the only option and there is such a person who could. if you want to influence putin, we understand that putin only understands power, it is possible and i even want biden i turned to him but but if there was a father's conversation yes, but the leader of china could do it theoretically, the leader of china could do it

if he wanted to no i put the leader of china in the same category as the chinese biden, a country that views russia as a vassal and not as an equal partner, this is a problem, because yes, i think that you need to look for it personally, er, you hear. i think that you need to look for something personally, or a family or some kind of putin's family ties, they exist, we know it 's rumors, but they have is it possible to completely cut russia off from the world? is it permissible to freeze payments for energy carriers of the russian federation? if payments were frozen there in two or three days, and russia would stop receiving this billion dollars every day, then it is possible to exchange it for a thaw. of our fighters well, you are right , you had to look for a question or lever that would threaten the personal safety

of putin or him or would be personally interesting for him today . it's about china, so it's possible that it won't interfere directly , but it's like in a conversation with macron, so if i'm not mistaken with the president of france, sisinfin, the leader of china said that china supports the integrity of ukraine , and that's what the experts say. well, we can say that unofficially, not directly, but he still takes the side of ukraine in this confrontation. well, we don't know with you. what, er, what will this zelpin say about the russian federation? china is interested in ukraine. why? because we feed it, we supply it with grain, and china considers ukraine as one of the bridgeheads for entering the markets of the european union, that's why china always supports the strong, that's why

he could say that, but besides the words china, you know . by the way, china is the only country in the world that has the assets of the russian federation, foreign assets and has not frozen them yet and gives the russian federation the opportunity to use these gold and foreign currency reserves located in the bank of china, and due to this, russia constantly avoids default, yes, if i am not mistaken, about 17% is a significant amount of these foreign currency reserves currently in china. we are waiting we ca n't wait for the default of russia, we really thank you for your time and for your comments for our broadcast oleg zhdanov , a military expert, a reserve colonel, was with us via skype, and mykola buchenko, i see you in my hand kept in mind that some did not speak on our broadcast, everyone will have a say, i want to make certain summaries, certain remarks, well, first of all, when it was

said that the whole world, and even we , did not believe that we would be able to stand against russia, i think that here is actually there is a very simple explanation: russia inherited a powerful propaganda information propaganda machine that was still used by the ussr and, accordingly , it invested a lot of effort and resources in order to create this myth, this image. well, almost of the all-powerful russian army, despite the fact that there are certain military operations like those in syria, i don’t know about abkhazia, his website, and so on, they only reinforced this myth that russia is all-powerful and actually, now we became the factor that destroys these myths and this is actually very good because it will have the effect of a snow avalanche when the whole world will see that russia is not really that strong, in fact it can be fought with, in fact it can be limited and it will only add to us over time

bonuses, now if we are talking about how long the war will last, how long it will be, i will probably also say somewhere that i am more on oleg's side, and somewhere i also looked a little more optimistically at those events, if you maybe return to the screen the eyes of schalke teres gives different factors, i would try to analyze them somewhat, that is, what do i mean when we talk about such a single libra scarf, about what will help us to win, it is actually more or less with that libra scarf and everything is very much well, it is more or less clear, that is we have lend-lease, we have the us vote eh, what is even more important, we have our eh, let's say military spirit and power. that is, we are the truth on our side, we will fight to the end, we will cede territory here, everything is clear here, everything is clear and society will fully support the army to victory if we are talking about the second shalka teres

about all the things we talked about well, you know , most of them for me are at least very doubtful why because, well, the involvement of belarus well, it might be relevant then when there was still a battle for kyiv, that is, then the belarusian army and the belarusian forces could fuel the russian offensive, it is possible to try there, there were chances that russia could try to turn the tide of hostilities in its favor, now it is the belarusian army that is much less combat-ready, and as we already know, even from those attempts, there were talks about the fact that many military groups of belarus simply refuse or sabotage a possible solution, such as an attack on ukraine or will simply be captured that is, it would be suicide for lukashenka, suicide for the belarusian army, i don't see this in relation to the question of how they talked about the transfer to military rails in the conditions of total sanctions,

restrictions, this is also a very difficult thing, the issue of russia's reserves is also shown by the situation about the fact that those the reserves are well, let's say there, well, they are far from what putin and russia would like and not to the extent that they can significantly fuel russia, er, martial law, i think that if er, there was an opportunity for putin to do this and announce a total mobilization, and it would the economy withstood. he already did it a long time ago, and i want to say one more thing. maybe so. at first glance, it is a paradoxical thing. it seems to me that our success and the speed of the war are inversely proportional to the end of the war in it and inversely proportional to the number of days that russia will try again to attack ukraine why because uh by the way, this is also the data of uh some military experts and intelligence that many military generals advised vladimir

putin not to start the second stage of the war, that is, not to start an offensive in donbas, but simply to dig in already occupied territories and try to hold them, and this, in my opinion, would be a much worse situation for ukraine, because it is much more difficult to release an enemy who is entrenched and who has thrown all his forces into defense, when russia is now attacking, it is receiving colossal losses and is actually exhaling, i said, oleg, yes , that is, this the envelope is still not infinite , it will eventually end and it is much easier for us to destroy it when russia tries to attack. meanwhile , while we are destroying them and they are weakening , we get international help heavy weapons, artillery, let's say our reservists and those who are mobilized. they are also gradually becoming more combat-capable, so i think that the more russia, despite the absurdity of this, let's say the possibility of seizing our territories, it will still try to do it, it will

stubbornly go and die the sooner the war will end, they heard mr. putin is a pantomochko remark , they wanted to briefly hear the studio for the second time that we were not sure that we would win, well, this is not true, because those hundreds of thousands, i am not exaggerating who came to the military commissariats, military units came in the first days and successfully went to the front and defeated when it was really possible the world did not believe purely mathematical calculations by conducting and we having our spirit well here it is wrong and the second means that i am not wrong here mr. sociologist i have a correction there but in the first two weeks when sociology was conducted, there was more than 90% confidence in the victory of society in ukraine."

offers cart-tacts, these strategies are hardly something new, why was martial law not declared, this issue was slowly launched into the russian society until may 9 is the same, but if you, any of us monitored their russian public telegram channels, we saw that even their population, which is inert, and did not perceive it, began to cause a certain to a certain wave of panic, and that is precisely why it was not announced, although in fact it is also happening in them and the mobilization now, especially if the luhansk brothers of the donetsk direction are actually using the human resources of the occupied

territories, and dissonance is also starting there, because what you were talking about today about denazification about the awareness of the population that was under occupation is pro-russian, now there is no application, then he promised to protect us, and he takes our men and throws them into the front line, this is also the truth of life, moreover , their propaganda and education, it was also set on war, although the military has no motivation as our soldiers who encounter them say to their dead, yes, these are real people in rubber boots, grandchildren without socks and in fairy tales of the 50s . supports wars itself participates in many wars uh, as far as we understand it, probably not how uh, the war is full-scale, it is with ukraine, it is the most difficult war for the russian federation, as far as it can completely hide from the eyes of the forces of the russian federation, because we are now talking about what is already being

taken away syria and everything. well, all of them are not what binds their armed forces to ukraine now. at this stage, it binds the expansion of russia in us at the geopolitical level, at the world level, and expect until certain, which i will repeat to expect now some exclusive moments from not only that this is a ticking time bomb for russia for its economy for its influence on the geopolitical level for the next 4-5 years for sure, because if their military potential is exhausted then to offer to demonstrate education they have nothing left in the grand scheme of things except for gas and oil, but again today we are discussing already discussed what is going into large-scale substitution , many options are being considered about what to give up russian gas nastya if we take into account that now the heating seasons are ending and world politicians, world countries have this niche, a gap, summer, spring, to get out, at least as far as

possible, they can now withdraw their economies from dependence on russia, and the plus is to find an alternative. well, it is quite probable. i remember that at the beginning of march, all zipin issued a very good phrase. he said that i spoke with ba about the fact that if china and america took responsibility for world security, that is, the vision should be stopped. conventionally speaking, the distribution there is some kind of distribution of the world, it is definitely not the same as the country. there is no longer a mainland level. siberia is big, so viktor andrusiv, adviser to the minister of internal affairs of ukraine, we must now also turn it on live, then everyone gets a word from mr. viktor. good evening, we say to you, but before you give us an answer, we will let you and our viewers listen to a quote from the deputy minister of defense from yesterday's briefing that, as of now, the armed forces of

ukraine are noticing that for the russian federation kyiv may still remain a target, the enemy has not given up its intentions to build a land corridor to transnistria and seize kyiv, the occupiers may also try to take control of the territories of odesa, mykolaiv, and partly zaporizhzhia regions - said the deputy chief of the main operations department of the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine oleksiy gromov at the same time vitaliy klychko m the head of kyiv said that sometime after the ninth and tenth of may, it is possible to return to kyiv little by little. so we would like to ask you about the state of security and the safety of staying in the city of kyiv now, well , first of all, vitaliy klitschko has been saying for three days that it is better not to come here. it's as simple as that. to clarify on the account of safety, i can say that kyiv is as safe as lviv

, because the only threat is kyiv is all missile and bomb strikes, and there is no difference between the fact that lviv will be hit or kyiv will be hit, that is, as of today, there are simply no other threats to it, but regarding the quote that you updated, there are indeed such intentions, but i will say it directly that today these intentions have become just fantasies, er, there is no ability to do this and of course, they live in these fantasies , but about the fact that again some armada has moved to kyiv , that is, in the near future, well, i just don’t imagine it for this, i’m sorry, i just have to everything is about to turn around and run away from the battlefield and what putin expected should happen, namely that everyone will surrender without end in our country, but if i translate the speed at which they are advancing in the donbass, then if they spend 2 hours there during the day km somewhere

yes, it is about 800 km from that place to kyiv. well, imagine that it will take him 400 years to reach kyiv at such a pace. another terrible episode that we wanted to discuss with you and hear your opinion, and in the end, how should we react to it? now i'm asking our directors to show these terrible footage that appeared in the unr hmm broadcaster where the surveillance cameras recorded how the russian military, it happened back in march, they just shot people without weapons, it was the owner of a car dealership and obviously the guard has evidence that they approached these soldiers with raised hands, they were without weapons and even there, as they say in this article, they shared

cigarettes with the soldiers instead. when they turned around, they shot them in the back. what should we do next? you know me, just look . some uh let's say this is an endless surprise to the russians well, here some new video appeared, some new evidence appeared, well, what other videos did we need after they just threw a dot at the station in kramatorsk, where are the people they were waiting for the evacuation well, what are we talking about, they are trying to wipe the city from the face of the earth, residential neighborhoods, children are dying and they threw a bomb at the theater where innocent people were hiding, what else do we need videos or evidence of what we find in this new thing, you understand but we are just for with one episode we can already condemn all of them eh in the chaos, all these episodes are nothing to us, you understand, that is, there is no need to chase the infinity of this evil that they do, we must accept that they are evil in any form and expect that well, it is worse that we

we can imagine everything can happen from them and we just have to be ready not to touch them there they killed they didn't kill as they killed, well, it's not necessary, well, there's nothing new here after buchi, after mariupol , there can't be anything new for us about the atrocities of these scumbags do you understand why we open them there, maybe the west opens for itself there, maybe his eyes open somewhere because he did not see something well, we in the whole country have been living in this hell for 70 days, all together. i will somehow live with it, i will remember mr. viktor andrusiv about the point in kramatorsk. today, we probably all read this terrible article. there is a family in the lviv hospital where, as a result of this blow to kramatorsk, the mother lost one leg, the daughter lost two legs, and now they are going to the united states for prosthetics america's forecasts well, to what extent can they

be positive in this situation , and according to the latest data of the un high commissioner for human rights, since february 24, 3,541 civilians have been killed in ukraine and 3,785 have been injured. here it is important to understand, here it is important to always note that he is on these lists if i am not mistaken and they indicate absolutely identified, that is, when an established person is given in the same mariupol, it is generally difficult to talk about anything there 39 children - these are the numbers they provide and even these numbers they are terrible, they are simply terrible, briefly , please, mr. kostyuk. i would like to pay attention to the fact that the russian army is like that. dear society, western experts, i and ours also for some reason put the sign of equality between the soviet army and the russian that the russian army in the 20th century won

lost the russian japanese war lost the first world war capitulated capitulated the soviet army won the second world war even in afghanistan in this soviet army who were ukrainians and belarusians that is, that is all this is all minus that is, we need to get rid of it and what the russian army killed the vechkir people, killed all of them, they did not have a worthy opponent, and the west also did not appreciate the ukrainians that much. and we see what the russian army means without ukrainians and without other nationalities. and more only in 2014, the first general received the rank of general who graduated from our military university. what do i mean by that, a large part of the officers who went through that soviet school understand what they are doing, but they may not do everything to us. and what you said is a moral plus the spirit and everything else , that is, it must be said that it is not an equality sign, because they put the equality sign in the un instead of the soviet union

. that if we take the 19-20 centuries, this russian war is the first war in which ukraine did not fight as part of the russian federation and the soviet union. the war during the afghan war is the first thing and the second thing why when i stretched my hand i wanted to say such a thing let's agree who will talk to putin china's leader biden but we must understand one simple thing on the 78th day of the war no compromises with this person cannot make any compromises with this nation, either we or they will win, it seems that we will win because literally in the last two weeks the whole civilized world has intervened on our behalf, i want to emphasize one thing on all of this, otto von bismarck said at the end of the 19th century, whatever - some treaties signed with the russian federation are not

worth even this paper on which they are signed, therefore only a complete victory and i emphasize the dissolution of the russian federation between the learned states of ukraine, china and other countries, but in my the feeling is that the whole civilized world, perhaps even including china, has understood that such a monster with nuclear weapons cannot exist and that it is better to go the way of the civil war in russia . the price is already very expensive and paid, and this question is that this is really an existential war and we must thank every time the guys from avstal who are holding this defense today because it is the ukrainian elite who have shown that the highest honor and award is to give one's life for one's country and for one's people, and this is unfortunately the case live. as you noted here, this is what we can

see online. why can we all join? this is how we write letters to our parliamentary and former colleagues in turkey. countries that can be beneficial for negotiations, and russia, because the last meeting. do you remember the bilateral meeting that was between ukraine and the requiem, it was precisely in turkey, and therefore under those conditions. understood to the end what it is it means to take the guys and they have to be in another third country until the end of the war , and it’s the same. they had to agree to it, in fact, it wasn’t just like that, and our azov soldiers and marines are there border guards , they are all very strong, this is real, our military elite, and i think that this press conference showed that they do not wrap up pieces of paper. they know languages, they are, uh, people with education, that is the elite and ukrainian. and who today represents ukrainian

people and they are very loud and it is really big thanks to the channel that is being shown, it demonstrates live for all ukrainians as of today what we need to do, we need to believe in victory, we need to dream very globally, because the real mission of ukraine in the 21st century is to protect the democratic world of europe and the world as a whole, and again, to believe in the fact that we are building ukraine very quickly why because other technologies and well, for sure we had to go through all these stages of the formation of our state awareness of a large part of the mistakes we made very often so there is no black and white anymore half tons, which were imposed every time by liberalism , tolerance, something else is the ukrainian state, there is a language, there are symbols of the state today everyone is a hero, the one who goes to work in ukraine, the one who stays a-a pays taxes, the one who, despite

difficult conditions psychologically a-a his own there is a situation, but he still tries to work , volunteers, you help to look for opportunities to knock on all the windows and doors of the world of other countries to help us protect them in the first place, and we say this very loudly, and today there is no time, you correctly noted at the beginning, no one should wait , and everyone has their own mission, their own part, their own brick that must be laid in victory, we have to think about what we will do after victory, because we have often seen how there is a revolution in ukraine. we run 100 m, but we are not enough for a marathon, and this is a marathon to prepare for the next stage of the protection of that statehood, which we definitely stand for, or we want to protect our children, this means that they must be prepared. his ability and ability to understand something. perhaps, god forbid, that it is not necessary to

use it, but to be able to know exactly