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volunteers are trying to work, you help, look for opportunities to knock on all the windows, doors, and the world of other countries, so that they help us protect them first of all, and we say this very loudly, and today there is no time, you correctly noted at the beginning, no one should wait our own mission, our own work, our own part, our own brick that must be laid in victory, we have to think about what we will do after the victory, because we have often seen how there is a revolution in ukraine. we run 100 m, but we are not enough for a marathon, and this is a marathon to preparation for the next stage of the protection of that statehood that we definitely stand for, or we want to protect our children, this means that they must be prepared. israel, why is this the preparation of each of his health invested in the treasury of the nation? this is his ability and opportunity to understand something. maybe god forbid that it would not be necessary to use it, but to be able to know for sure how to
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stand up for your country in its defense , and today, half a million ukrainians who have returned from abroad and thanks to volodymyr have a nickname who showed not living in ukraine all his life for a large part after returning from kyiv to stand in kyiv to stand in every place local self-government that shows that it is able to gather, is able to react, is able to make changes in its territory and not give up. thank god there are collaborators who tried to pass in the eastern regions to go over to the side of the enemy, they already have sentences, they are already prisoners, that is, the retribution will come like this. what minister kuleba said was not until february 24, but already with the return of crimea and the east, and i think that people specialists who understand people's moods will be better able to talk about it. we have a unique opportunity today, and i will agree with everyone who spoke about it here, that this is a unique chance and opportunity for
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ukraine, for the world, democracy, and freedom. and all these values that i talked about very often and the whole world lived. he talked about it. ukraine just does it, protects and defends. and there are many opportunities now, it is important to see them. it is important not to wait, but to act very actively, to be very proactive and so that we really can in this victory lay down all these dreams that you dreamed, not only we, but perhaps the generations before us, eh, it is possible to end it like this , thank god. completed and we have the third of this empire because of the genocide that is continuing again against the ukrainians, there was a holodomor, there was a genocide of one people, now we have an even worse genocide against ukrainian nature and all this must
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have an answer. we warmly meet the residents of lviv near the hotel, who unfortunately brings him close and he leaves, we shout to him that bucha is a genocide mariupol is a genocide that's because probably because in kyiv not everyone can tell the institute c- the institution through diplomacy those things where we, the civil society, can talk about it loudly to them and so we have a problem that the red cross also goes and talks about rostov-on-don, it turns out that the red cross should be helped there and not evacuate wounded people from mariupol to look for this possibility of those corridors, therefore, as of today, the world has turned upside down. either you are on the side of ukraine, the truth and the victory of democracy and all other values, or you are on the side of putin's decline and aggression . these cowards, they kill children, they
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kill women in front of their children, they rape , they abuse, this is not a nation, this is not a people, unfortunately, it looks absolutely like some kind of garbage on the globe, biological with which we are today as in the great absolute evil must be resisted, and therefore our belief that it will happen only thanks to the fact that we will dream but act very consistently and methodically on a daily basis to make it happen. which was conducted by a sociological group, the rating of the study is several positions, let's talk about how they support the recognition of the actions of russian troops in ukraine and are called the genocide of the ukrainian people. 89% of those who voted 76 voted for the ban
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the use of zeta v symbols, which is used on russian and military equipment, and another 74% also for banning the st. george ribbon in ukraine, over the past five years, support for the initiative has increased from 45 to 74%. this is important, just as i wanted to talk about some dynamics, there is one more graph of how ukrainians describe the modern political regime in russia, 41% call it a dictatorship, 37% call it fascism, now you will see the numbers, and 10% call it nazism. that's how the deadlines for conducting this sociology are april 27, all we provide the data below and in the native language ukrainians think, let's see this, it's also important. 80% named ukrainian - 16% russian, 3% another language, it's also very important, because discussions about the language are difficult, but they are being conducted now, even at this time
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. some sociology. you constantly work with people, interview their opinion, if we talk about some dynamics of change, what is it most evident in , some position of ukrainians, what has changed, well, first of all, ukraine lives by faith in victory, and what we really managed to measure literally seems to be on the third day after the beginning of the war, there were 90 2% of ukrainians who believed in victory, and now it is 97 or 98, well , that is, it is one hundred percent support, both then and now . the main attitude of ukrainians towards their own state is that we believe in the armed forces of ukraine 100%. we believe in the president almost one hundred percent. we believe in our actions. we believe in our
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future . we plan our future. we ask different questions to the information resistance. well, only one in five says that it does not help our victory in any way. well, mainly it is the older generation or women, in principle, take care of children. that is, again, the absolute majority of us are engaged in work for our victory but not the main trend of the usual one, it is simply predictable by 200% in the first hours of the beginning of the war - this is a complete de-russification of ukraine and it even continued as a de-radinization of ukraine with each week of measurements we recorded an increase of anti-russian sentiment, they immediately jumped there by 80%. well, against russia, and they just managed to deliver , especially after the events, or after it became
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known who was the enemy, i.e. russia is an enemy for 100% of ukrainians, putin is an enemy for 100% of ukrainians, and lukashenko is an enemy for 8, for 90 there, i forgot how many six, for example, he was in that the most popular is politics, money, 70%, i forgot how long it was, lukashenko was in favor, had a huge positive after his presidential election, his support in ukraine has decreased, he has already shown himself as dictator, but i will remind you of the results there in 2010 , when putin had higher trust ratings in ukraine than the presidents of ukraine, that is, and this led to everything , including a change in attitude towards russians . and now, if i am not mistaken, only 8% of ukrainians have a positive, more or less positive attitude i am not saying that 100% of the others or 90 have
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a negative attitude, no, 70 are definitely negative, and there are also conditional 20 who say well, we have a neutral attitude , but i do not really support ostap in that he says that there is still a large category of people who have there or pro-russian sentiments or in pure spirit this is not what ostapa said, but somewhere you know the keys well, when 100%. what is the difference between 90 and 100? what is the difference between 86 and 95? these are all of them, and of course a small part of ukrainians will remain with the soviet mentality, possibly brought up somewhere, from the point of view that they are one people, from the point of view that russia is our friend , brother, godfather, and so on. in the future, that is, this particle will remain, but now it decreases with each day of the war, firstly and secondly, well, there are objective if there are objective factors yes, if here you mentioned the figure of 74% of ukrainians who
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support the ban, and the st. george tape, yes , there is one very revealing slide in our report, the question is not about 74% support, but the question is that even five years ago, western ukraine was at the same level 70 there is 5%. supported the ban in georgia, and the residents of the east and south of the center. well, let's say that the majority did not support such a decision . so now their support is as weak as in western ukraine. there is no dynamics in the west, but the rest of ukraine began to be, and began to have other we record the perception and assessment of the unity of ukrainians in every measurement, in principle, on any issue, if eastern ukraine was not half of the inhabitants of the east, and in our research, the inhabitants will say it is the kharkiv donetsk and luhansk regions, and if their majority is more than 50%. let it be with a tail, but
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more than 50%. support the ban on the broadcasting of russian songs on ukrainian radio , this is a groundbreaking change, therefore, changes in ukrainian e-e in ukrainian society are happening extremely quickly, what was going on for years of recognition the grandson of stepan bandera's support or a positive hundred, which would have its characteristic manifestations in western ukraine, yes, among the ukrainian-speaking environment, yes, in russian. thanks to ukraine, now it all happened very quickly within a month. well, maybe i do n't even say two within a month, because already in april it's more and more - less stabilized or again 96 or 98. what is the difference? that is why these processes are ongoing and you often ask me if it is possible to roll back. money, are you fighting now at the front, the war applies
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to everyone in line at the gas stations, the economy is the horrors that you can tell about, stress, broken families, half of ukrainians now have various separated families , that is, there are well, bees, parents and children now live separately yes, there is, for example, someone left yes , someone went abroad for everything. this war affects everyone, and as there were 8 years of war in donbas, this will not happen anymore. ukraine lived separately, the war in donbas was going on separately. yes, no, it was all politicians or something else. well, it won’t work. you have to lie to yourself a lot to get to this point. that’s why these maximum indicators are normal. maybe they will decrease the level of support in our country. we will definitely have problems in we will probably be
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investigated after the war. burst now recognize it and any any peaceful peace, well, the ukrainian will not be ready for any peace agreement, we also said off the air that the military will not accept this in the first place, the ukrainian will not accept this for us, now victory is ukraine, independent ukraine and for sure an extremely important moment because we zara are emphasizing and the whole program about the war is clear . yes, what else is going on in ukraine, uh, but we have to talk about it. ostap aptly said that is how the ukrainian nation is born, but it is born with such democratic values, for this, for this, i would even said with such horizontal collectivism, when everyone works and helps at their own level, we do not have vertical collectivism like in the same russia. we somehow work by ourselves, we find something ourselves, we ourselves help something, everyone is a volunteer, even those who
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just talk to loved ones. we started talking to everyone. we we communicate as a sociologist, it is significantly easier to work, i will say this remark because before the war and distance now everyone wants to talk about their questions and everyone is interested and everyone needs to talk, that is why ukrainians are changing ostap absolutely support yourself by 200%. about the fact that we will move for a long time and oksana talked about it, yes, it will be a long process, we will change, well, breaking your stereotypes is problematic, but in the conditions of war it happens extremely quickly. these but these changes will not stop with the war and we will certainly achieve that dream yes dream ukrainian er -er some maybe even romantic education.
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that's how ukrainians will see it, and ukrainians, by the way, by the way, almost 90% yes, now i'm not just talking about 90%, i started to identify myself no, i apologize for almost 100%, i started to identify myself with a citizen of ukraine five years ago or seven years ago that's why when we asked it was rated eight for eight nine now for 10 with a citizen of ukraine we want to become we have now become ukrainians who want to see their ukraine immediately after the war the first thing a ukrainian wants to do he wants to travel ukraine he wants to get to know it he wants accept it once again as your own dream state . i just received a stamp to my colleagues. now in the east of ukraine, he is commenting and saying that 100% of the guys , including those from the east, speak russian first and foremost ukrainian and are not even going to listen to russian music. look at the language so that you understand
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because we are in lviv, and for some it may be an irritating question. 80% of us have a native language. ukrainian we have a language in everyday life, half of ukrainians both communicated in ukrainian and still communicate, this figure is unchanged, at least in our zamirakh well, there are 12-13 years old. it is unchanged, but there is a significant part that speaks two languages, we can assume that it is surzhik, for example, in the poltava region, we can assume some other points. and 15%. moreover, with the beginning of the war, their number has increased from a third to 18, and after buchi, it is already 15, and these numbers are sure to change further. so we have not yet made measurements, and this is a very strong dynamic, not only from these 15% of people who admit that they are in everyday life communicate in russian, a third are ready
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to switch to ukrainian in the near future, and approximately the same third of these same russian-speaking people call ukrainian their native language, that is, i think tomorrow the day after tomorrow i will already measure a maximum of 10 %, and this and this and this are trends and this is just what are we moving towards, it is simply not necessary, i saw it at first it seemed to me, but now you confirm that well, maybe not such a large number of people communicate in ukrainian, they simply consider it their native language , but they will still not teach it. yes, but if you say what, these are fantastic numbers, it was allowed. well, i was actually the first to jump when i saw how ukrainian society really was with russian clients. this is what all the crazy crazy radicals said and were always the star of the instigators of schismatics. hollowed out these absolute outsiders in general, their own
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national life, of course, it is necessary to build in this, but also understand why this happened, i would like to have 100 percent well for 100% recognition of russia as an enemy was followed by a 100% rejection of everything russian. i am not satisfied with monolingual russian-speaking in ukraine. now i also feel the feelings of these people. that in ukraine, which has destroyed the russian language by russia, we will still have the right not to change, not to come to ukrainian, and so on, that's why i always welcome these percentages, but i always ask you to keep this bar because there are such phenomena neophyte, this is an explosive situational phenomenon when something explosive happens and you are involved in it. how how
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to pull it out drags you into it, you enter it, it is done even sometimes against your will. it is simply the story itself that causes this explosion for you and you have to join the ukrainian trend. otherwise, you are a fucking idiot a collaborator, a traitor, sold out, but as soon as this virva stops a little, as soon as the explosions stop a little , everyday life will go, the routine will go into 2014, 2015 , when the war is somewhere in the east, and here we will get medals with rammstein, not with morgenstein, sports with kirkorov, who for some reason is already in the ninth place on youtube, they have projects with an arrestee who talks in russian with a muscovite feigin on the air with all briefings in two languages or in russian and with the reluctance of people here, at least in western ukraine, out of a shred of respect for that land well, really, at least try to ukrainianize yourself, i’m sorry, it’s all going to fall apart and we’ll go back
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to lazy ukraine, which was also a kind of co-author of this war, i’m saying this without any extra drama, simply because the reluctance to join the ukrainian trend in ukrainian life brought this russian here who accepted this land as his own and when they talked about palianytsia, everyone was happy. now, in the third place of the war, i want to bring you back to the word palianytsia and tell you how you differ from muscovites now in kherson i went for the voice i went for the voice that they all cleaned up in the local subversive groups and i have to identify all of them, i ask the question how will you determine who is your enemy or yours if you cannot, relatively speaking, identify yourself linguistically as ukrainian culturally and so on, that is why we have the same horizon of tasks. we have not achieved anything. we have
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only sociological hypocrisy as an intention. we do not yet have practice. in russian, you know such practices at the level of everyday life and says, well, we deserve a little, you know, not to be touched, but we, we, we, we , too, are victims, and so on. therefore, it is simply necessary not to miss this moment, and the percentages and victims, i repeat, completely refuse this russian rejection well, you will not be different from the enemy, all ostap, from music, from everything that crawls here again, and it is already crawling, you understand, because i see that the number of views of all russian-language youtube does not decrease , the consumption of russian, russian-language content does not decrease, and we must these, well, we have to
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put up these bars, otherwise we won’t go if we fail, we won’t pull them in, we won’t pull them in after this flash, because now i see a flash, oh , they ran to ukraine because ukraine is in danger. and how only you will move away from them a little, they will go back to their laziness, because they have been like that for 30 years. we need to translate this flamboyance into a sequence into national state policy, and then i think it is 100% you will be a victory, and this lays the field of research of the enemy, uh, russian youtube, which they continue to watch, well, no, it’s not, tell me, they even showed me a screenshot, when you understand , it turns out that the group would be 2, it’s about putin’s group. i’ve never listened to them in my life, but they tell me that there is such a group, you know, and in skryna under youtube it says it means that we are now in the basement. we are hiding there. we are having a bomb dinner. what a great, up -to-date, chic song, b-2. it is so relevant, so you have to be away from the
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russian bombs in a bomb shelter to listen to the russian group b2 about putin . to say that everything is fine. we will all run blue and yellow. we can run, but that does not mean being blue and yellow. and this is what we have to become. and this is already acting. you understand that i just wanted to clarify, because for me, it should be just working with us. a fighter of the 8th battalion is waiting for time and the guest in the studio is talking about the great lviv, but now the contrast is in the east, defending our country, we congratulate you glory to ukraine glory to the heroes but where do we see you or will we see you or is it planned this way, maybe this is the situation, tell me what the situation is in the east. we will ask unnecessary questions today on the air there were many different statements version and what do you know
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what you see you know i had the opportunity to listen to your discussion for 20 minutes so i want to say that we often executed during the construction of ukraine that we did not dealt with our ukrainians, er, there was no state policy regarding ukrainianness at all. therefore , unfortunately, most citizens grew up as they are, which they do not know. light bulbs and we are reaping this problem, but i want to say that er today one fighter er from the 80th airborne assault brigade is a russian speaker who is
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trying to learn the russian language with such a remarkable ah, and today he was talking emotionally about the muscovites and about the police in izyum, which 10 men went over to the side of the enemy and became collaborators, and here he is from kharkiv saying that uh, here we are a little bit, and so you know, he is trying to switch to the ukrainian language let's figure it out, and then we will take on our muscovites who betrayed us, uh , you know, i agree with you, i asked him if he was trying to learn the ukrainian language, you answered that i learned russian from kindergarten, because in that environment i didn't have it anywhere
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to study but always she is simple well, you tell me something, a question is asked, and how to translate this or that word into ukrainian and another example was not yet in the 14th year, when one military reenactor who had uh in his head constantly workers, christian, just my army a-a and in the soviet union, and he was er-e there in the fourth generation of the military, and when i met him near the sands, i decided to record an interview with him with the keys to the camera. and he himself ran to them there in the shower a-a looked again after that recording already some there rather later and he said i'm ivan ivanovich sabiliv, i'm an officer of the ukrainian army, now they came to my land, and he said that his father is
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russian, and his grandfather is russian, he's in the fourth generation there, and he's a military man, but he defends ukraine , that is, he defends his home and, uh, he feels ukrainian in general, even though to ukrainians, even though we said it in russian, well, if it wasn’t for that, it’s the worst problem. in our country, you talked about wanting the war to end as soon as possible without setting any dates. unfortunately it will not end quickly i in in principle, i can now say in which direction, in the donetsk direction, in the rather difficult northern direction, uh, where they are directly covered with mines , artillery shells, rocket artillery , because they have a lot of those shells, uh, we have 10 times less of them, but we have them in 10 times, probably the third time , we use it more effectively, you know,
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we won't have peace from them for a long time, father, or what they do, and first of all, they destroy everything that can give us the opportunity to work, dose the economy, any factories, and near us in lysichansk there is an oil refinery, which methodically burns from morning to evening any workshops, any collective farms, any tractor stations. they burn it all and destroy any hangar, they destroy it, and so you understand, every school where do they get them, they will attack each school first of all well, they probably think that there will be a concentration of soldiers that the children have been expelled somewhere but maybe this is their genocide or our children had no place to study eh and what they are doing to these moscow hordes on the one hand we we understand that they are destroying us, they want to destroy us both
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physically , and you know, economically. it goes so clearly three 3:0 i don’t understand they come in they run in their equipment runs in but we have their retreat routes er we burn and destroy them on the second day they rebuild those routes and throw in their soldiers again throw in the equipment again we again burn and destroy them with great effort run further that they themselves are rebuilding again and they continue, i don't understand their motivation to die in ukraine, i understand our motivation when, but in principle, our commanders, especially the middle echelon, are trying to
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preserve ukrainian soldiers, and the motivation of the brains of their command and the soldiers themselves who gave meat to the rod they are killing us and of course they are killing us, it is a pity and we see that we are probably still at peace from them and soon they will hold us we are forced to defeat them about things and the attack on kremenchuk and the expansion of nato 78th day of the war in russia against ukraine we tell bbc news live from london to join nato immediately finland renounces neutrality due to russian aggression next sweden
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