what can happen to somehow reduce this suffering , that is, there is some influence, someone can influence putin, because we all understand that it is not some uncle, this is putin , tell me specifically, or information, with whom to negotiate, to negotiate with a maniac who eh raises the question of killing you slowly or quickly, well , this cannot be negotiated, how can you win. it is to injure or kill a maniac, but this is my personal opinion, because we see that the international community , uh, unfortunately, cannot influence putin and that the crazy top that is around him therefore, we need to look for other means ukraine needs state-of-the-art

weapons in ukraine we need financial support in order to forcefully extradite these monsters from our ukrainian land because you see other options that are only there how much time has passed until they were able to to evacuate peaceful citizens of wounded citizens for grew this is just bullying in the 21st century, uh, such an analogue simply does not exist in the world, even but in uh, compared to mariupol, well, it is something less tragic, another question and i understand the state of affairs correctly, mr. dmytro, that just 100,000 people are hiding in basements of various kinds. they come out from time to time. in search of food, medicine or water, they go to all the basements again and continue to

sit there. people still survived, private buildings and people live in their buildings , but they have no electricity, water, or gas, well, that is, people are actually in the stone age, eh, they live in the city, eh, where does anyone else have there are some left they live there in run-down buildings. and the humanitarian aid that the russians hand out on camera to children and women there is somehow given to them, and to men they are only given out when they will disassemble the rubble from the destruction brought by the russian federation, well , that is, in general, this is such a mockery and a violation of all uh, international legal norms that done by the russian federation, but i wanted to ask about the village of the sort

in greek, which is part of mariupol, it was actually destroyed. as far as i understand, the historical centers were destroyed there, and i saw that the monument will be destroyed, a headache near the museum of the azov greeks in this well-known priest who was considered by all to be the saint of the azov greeks, a difficult situation when the russians entered, they destroyed the sortana from the aviation e-e people were evacuated e-e it was still at the end of february, the beginning of march, people were healed in the city of mariupol in some premises that were we have free people and everyone has been resettled, but it is really where the slag of the russian occupier came in. the destruction is almost complete there, if nothing at all can stop them, no, the building of the maternity hospital no

the drama theater, that is, they destroy what they see. even if it is children, if it is women, if it is a cultural building, that is what happened. as a matter of fact, unfortunately, it happened. well, thank you, mr. dmytro, thanks to the mariupol city council. thank you for being with us, stay with us, not only ukraine is rooting for you. and the whole world. well, this is an important story. yes, in fact, this selyshchna was such a special center of the greeks of the azov, as we talked about the russian beetroots, so we have to say that russia is also destroying the peoples of ukraine. national minorities living in ukraine and we have always been proud that we have such relations with greece around the mariupol region around this village where there was a museum of the azov greeks. this is an absolutely special group of people who were expelled from crimea by the russians. these were crimean issues. they lived there for a long time . before

russia appeared on the world map and many centuries before that, not just much. and then, when catherine ii annexed crimea, she decided that she these peoples mean greeks, armenians, you settle with crimea, but to these lands of the azov region, a part of the people really went here and created your kind of civilization there, now i have seen a lot of it really there. in order for the museum of these azov greeks, they destroyed the monuments near it, it was destroyed. it was such a beautiful square that just symbolized this story, uh, well-known writer of greek origin, mrs. khorohos, who wrote the history of mariupoli, was like that, the guardian of this entire greek community, she wrote poems in greek there, in russian, she died in the basement well, and she was an old woman over there. well, you know, the writer, yes, the first writer from mariupol, who became a member of the writers' union of ukraine.

once upon a time, she died in the basement from hunger and cold, that's how death is . of course it's terrible, he i i well , we'll come back to this again , it's impossible to understand russians, i can help us people's deputy of ukraine mykola velichkovych, who is now somewhere in kyiv, no, he's in kyiv, yes, i think he has information stationery yes afternoon mr. mykola good health thank you for finding time for us and tell me what is happening in the south of ukraine, where are you from, where are you according to my version, and according to portnikov's version , you are no longer located, you are already in kyiv , tell me all the same in the session of the verkhovna rada about this in general, mykola, and good day, i am actually in kyiv today because yesterday we had a meeting of the verkhovna rada, but literally two days

ago i returned from the south and was on the border of the kherson mykolaiv oblast, where our armed forces are holding the line of defense and are looking forward to when they will be able to go forward in a counterattack and in order to return our currently occupied population points, well, but there are signs of such a possibility. i am not asking for details, you understand, but when you say that you expect, you are unreasonable are you expecting? is there a reason for us to look forward to it together with you? you can already send mykola to the ministry of foreign affairs. it seems to me that i am very careful. i am very diplomatic.

tonight will also be the same or yesterday evening there were triplanes that were fired upon actually not even the positions of the military but the peaceful city in which ordinary citizens are at risk of such damage a city that until recently hmm only had water for drinking, friends, and there was not even a sanita for domestic water, but despite all that in the military, which are in position, which are the first lines, the second line, which are ready to go on the attack , they say that the occupiers, if they had the opportunity, they would multiply and march across the front. they only fired missiles, but they would also progressed forward so far they paid off and hmm they don't have enough numbers as we know uh such infantry but found a number well quite relatively significant some question the amount of

heavy equipment there tanks what uh will be the impression only we can uh will be the decision of the military leadership and opportunities, er, some real opportunities so that they can develop there, attack , capture something, er, for now, and i hope it won’t be, er, now in the south, well, everyone is waiting for something, so that when the equipment finally arrives, what will we have supplied by international partners will be able to be used in practice and then well, the situation will be completely different, there is water in mykolaiv, because we all know that there are big problems with water, how much can it be restored there, we know that odesa is helping other cities with water in mykolaiv a few days ago, only

drinking water was brought, but literally at the beginning of the week, the management of the city's water supply began to restore the supply. sanitary water, well, such, i'm sorry for such a term - it's water that can be used there, well, for some needs in addition to the consumption of water, which well, how to eat, how to drink, so uh, well, the city is coming to life, we see how people are further here, well, more and more and more people are appearing on the streets, i remember when, er, in march, at the end of march, there were a few days or so when people started coming back, we went out into the streets, it was somewhere there a sign that the city was coming to life and, uh, there is no longer that fear of such delight or danger is we

we see, we are also watching on mykolaiv, despite all these attacks. what has become more active in the last two or three days, the city is alive and dynamic, we have seen public transport, what are the people on the streets and institutions, various information, shops, some others about commercial establishments, all the others, well, places, where are they, or shops, some pharmacies the other works well, that's why you know it's very optimistic because people, if they feel danger, fear, they wouldn't have the opportunity, uh, if it was just so small. therefore, in my opinion, this is a good sign, and you saw something similar in in kyiv, when kyiv was returning to more or less such a normal civilian life. and tell me, do you know about all these conversations of a political nature about what the russians think about how to annex

kherson oblast to russia? they already had their eyes, all the statements of this, we don't remember anymore, the police already streamous is being distributed by this collaborator. as he said, even without a referendum, we will join. do you think this is the real intentions or some kind of bluff? what kind of bluff am i ? you know what is on their minds, well, only they know that, but we see those the speeches of the kherson people who are acting in anticipation of the fear of being killed or arrested or missing go out with our ukrainian flags on the street chanting kherson people of ukraine and express their clear position. i think that this is probably the best sign that the occupiers it doesn't work because they are afraid to do some such pseudo er referendum or don't you know if it will be correct to call these and their decorations but i

think that's why it's um what they want to wail there or join or something else, well, they can do it to do any time and anything, but it will not have any significance whatsoever , any action, except one, except that it will be another proof of their crime and responsibility in the field thank you thank you mykola velichkovich people's deputy of ukraine about the situation in the south of our country and now to the united states, where i hope john herps, the former ambassador of the united states to ukraine and now the director of the eurasian center at the atlantic council of the united states, is waiting for us, we are moving on to the russian language because mr. john knows russian and we can speak russian freely in our country, russian is not prohibited. hello, mr. ambassador. good

afternoon . thank you for the invitation. to finland, sweden, nato, and you can see something about the situation, it really worried russia the development of this situation, one against the pinch and putin, the accordion sent his army to ukraine, this place ago, his neighbors who were known as kaknitsialny about the sranami understood that the pro- news policy of these novels is a threat to them too and that is why they are looking for help, and again, this is a direct result of aggression putin , look today, ambassador, when i looked at the weapons of

sweden and finland, i realized that these are not the baltic countries, which were weak enough militarily, but sweden and finland will strengthen the northern the direction of nato because it is just 60 f35 aircraft that finland has now purchased. this is not a joke, this is a very large military force and there is its own production in sweden, military, that is, this huge increase . what can this mean for russia? - it 's simple to show what he is. politics brings only sabotage to russia, only trouble, and

he tried. they want to become members of nato, the security of russia is better as a result of it, and the second is the accession to ukraine. spoke about the fact that he is ready to talk with putin, but requires the withdrawal of russian troops from the line on february 24, 2020 of the digital year in moscow. some times at all in the calculations for the negotiation process. well, i think that zelensky fell, there will be preparation for negotiations, but he does not ask as if this is necessary

, because the real example speaks when putin himself realizes that he cannot, uh, go up against ukraine, how he understands that he can't make our country max and he can dominate ukraine then maybe he starts to really talk about the end of his war against ukraine well, let's not have any good useful negotiations understand how ukraine can hold out during putin's time and can consider that he is capable of either holding all the territories that he holds now or cutting off region by region yes, that's how it is to annex region by region ukraine in this situation will live in this position when the war continues permanently, right ? right, well, if we tell you to quit and moscow will come to the coca-community association , they understood the issue, and a ceasefire, but

russia still occupies ukrainian territory, and that is a significant amount of sanctions, too. they only carry russia, but also seek weakness with a military machine, if it turns out, our military support for you continues, so that moscow should be afraid of your military potential, and i say vitaliy does not like it when i speak, and in the future , when someone speaks, i will ask a question about the future, the intellectuals in washington of the united states already have an understanding of how to conduct policy towards

russia after the war. it seems to me that the world cannot agree to the existence of an aggressor with a nuclear bomb that can always threaten the world to the whole world well, it all depends on, first of all, how this war will end, and secondly, what kind of regime will politics be in russia after this war, if at all. and in the russian regime, then the course of revenge will definitely be maintained, our relations with the brain will be very complicated, and we we will protect ourselves from the possibility of a future revenge. well, i didn’t expect

it, either. what could be the regime you have ? it won’t be a woman who understands that such a realistic shelf is not even good for russia, and now you won’t be with us yet. better but we must then protect our positions from lviv and at any opportunity yes, but uh, that is, the lessons of the 90s, when america and the whole world helped russia, they brought these, but what are bush's legs called, and drugs, and disposable syringes, and money, and they all wanted to help, but they didn't help . russia, uh, got off its knees and attacked ukraine, maybe it's necessary to change the policy, like a smile, uh. in

any case, they will change the policy of smiles in the direction of moscow. well, i agree with the saints, and i even expect that our politicians in the future will therefore have a question there because of the details of the elements of such an approach, and maybe the circulation is talking about it now, they are talking about it now . i very much understand the logic of the so-called guarantees of a unilateral character, that ukraine should, alas, receive security guarantees, but on the other hand, i do not yet see any obvious prospects for ukraine to join nato and that ukraine would then exist, and i perfectly understood why

zelensky wants guarantees, and we all know the sad history of the budapest memorandum, and at the moment ukraine is a member, too, at the moment, and washington and washington are more difficult to guarantee. you know what the lady said. among the people, as i lead them, scholars and former officers and people, they start saying what exactly is today's war in ukraine, let us think about it.

ukraine is a good fighter, they know how to wage a war and they would be strong, but in ours, they were lazy and went to war. i can see that people will come up with a rumor. in this, i believe that our military aid is what it provides, but it is enough. but this aid is growing and it continues even after the last war, because we wanted, we want, we wanted, that you could be protected from future threats from the kremlin.

ukrainian security - this is the ukrainian military force, i understand that right , that's it, that's it, yes, too, you have friends. i'm one of them who is ready to give guarantees today, but unfortunately we don't have any, we don't occupy a place in ours under our penalties. and now more about finland and sweden. what do you think will be the participation of sweden, finland in nato, this is the appearance of bases there. and where will the americans , the english, someone else be ? will be an american umbrella that will hang and cover the sky from possible nuclear or

other strikes, that is, as you see it, it will be such a very, very hard part of nato or such a softer part of nato , i don’t know what the difference is which you say and the rules describe the nato situation well, of course i never served before but published at least something about it and as you have already said, the military power of finland and szczecin is quite high, it is not true, there is no reason for other nato members and in finland and sweden, and probably our umbrella is

enough for them. well, this is not a solution for me. it is not yet for nato when they become members of the ato . well, i can see. - eh, they are quite five strong, this is also so that it worries moscow more, i myself thought that we are very concerned about provoking putin and not afraid of what we will do, and the possibility of further kremlin aggression will end. well, here it is can it be from your point of view, what kind of forces does moscow have to

prevent or make the screen inconvenient for finland to join nato and sweden, that is , in some way, russia says we will react, well, we don't know how they can react, how they can react, what they can what can be done in finland or sweden, what can you think if the war of these countries is one reason for their desired nato starters, not only putin's war against ukraine is asking for his war against georgia, something that i did not know every

two or three months he wakes up his angel and ships and in a three-wheeler, i lead sweden and finland, and he sits his fighter jets in the sky. you say he's not smart, i think he's a fool because the baltics have turned into a whole inland sea nato there is a small section of russia and leningrad but everything

else is just plain nato that is, well, he's very far-sighted, he just doesn't look farther on the nose, it is very inconvenient for russia, yes, it is just completely. now nato is there except for leningrad and st. petersburg, back that he a-ah again at silver ’s . to cover the ukrainian people this

day before the invasion, and it is obvious that the whole team did not like him, he said about his policy in relation to because they understood, he may not have understood, but they understood that for russia, for beauty, this is a nightmare. thank you very much, junger e-e exposal in ukraine a-a currently the director of the eurasian center at the atlantic council in the united states thank you for taking the time and you take the time now please, viewers, listen to anzhelika sezonenko, who will now tell you about the news. don't forget to ask us questions from italy, please. we we will be back literally in 10-15 minutes