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you goethe super party is a political party that has a state budget and is financed from the state budget and has its own affairs in every district in every district, there were no such investigators in the government. no tsarabatyushki, you don't need such a pss and here we see the exception that is happening here anacondamocrats e- it is necessary to take power and not to get wet, as soon as they do not come to power, corruption begins and they go back to their holes, as they say, the imperial, this is what lomachenko has. thank you . thank you to our panel. in ukraine, i think 90 percent will subscribe to your words. yes, the deputy already after february 24. yes. now all that remains is that, according to mr., they knew what about
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demobilization . and uh, unfortunately, they did not listen to him and named big names, i tell him because this is to the regret of the belarusians, if they had listened, there would never have been a bridgehead in the territory of belarus in my life, the bridgehead was for an attack on our country, this is correct, this is generally the greatest cynicism that can could the russians afford two territories that were part of the grand duchy of lithuania, which have always lived in a state unity in the sense of which are close culturally and civilizationally, to use one territory as a springboard for an offensive against another, well, russia divides power like this, the russians have not come up with anything new here. now is the time efforts er answers to the questions here we have them here, well, let's start with the first yes, what can you say about the concession on the part of ukraine to save putin's face, exhibited by macron, who today president zelensky announced on the air of an italian
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channel why macron, who is listed, really wanted to preserve the image of a bunker 1 well, for me , the answer is very simple, everything depends on the armed forces of ukraine, again, if the armed forces of ukraine trembled, then macron had there would be a chance and the ukrainians themselves would say well, let's prefer peace to the territories, since the armed forces of ukraine are resolutely fighting back and we all expect a counteroffensive, then in the event of a counteroffensive or a counterattack, talk about leaving putin's face intact, they immediately are changing and decreasing. it seems to me that this is precisely about saving his face when the
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macro said it, even in the event of a military defeat. some specific love for russia that in the fourth he went to the third that in the second to french what and now the fifth to tell you that this contrasts this is an important thing it contrasts with what british american cartoons say and they say that putin's defeat should become obvious, and the french say no, not obvious. let there be a defeat. but let the russians not notice that they have been defeated. let them think that they have won, but if they think that they have won, they will attack next time. well, maybe not ukraine, but not someone else. i think it 's simple. how is this baba-yaga against, that is, the french are always kulan, as they say n- they came to the right, the french always say they went to the left, starting with surprise, starting with the second world war . i apologize for the fact that i have friends who are french. i always say listen, well, you weren't perfect
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soldiers, well, to put it mildly, the collaboration was such that, lord, your will and the french, the french police betrayed the jews and just well, and then do you remember this story when the french general signed the peace, well, candidates, wait for the people defeated and you also defeated us and told the address of the french general, he agreed with the fact that the soviet general, the american general, the english players , there are no questions, there may have been canadian and australian ones, well, it was a british coalition, yes a you are here, and they have already defeated us, that’s why you know that the french have something over there, that’s why the forest is almost the entire price. the usa can convince one person to rent a field, not to block the approval of 40 billion. well , that’s what american democracy looks like. that’s how you won’t get anywhere. and by the way realism, you know , one against another says, i have a different opinion, and that's
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why america is so powerful and strong that it can withstand other opinions, and that's why russia is so weak, because there are no other opinions, but there is only one opinion, one more important thing must be said. russia is very similar to the views of the former president donald trump, these are very similar views , but we have to imagine what would happen if trump was now in the white house, seriously, what was it you were here now, there were no expectations for $40 billion, i don't think that trump would be serious about putin. no, i’m not saying that at all, you all didn’t understand, no, he was just trying to distance himself from this conflict, as for me , he would say what’s the matter with the europeans, what ’s going on with them, yes, here we have fish police. congratulations. i don't know if it was the right decision of the police committee or not. because everyone among all the journalists and everyone seems to be dedicated to this one. there are different people
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. it would be a real gift if, instead of this collective police award, the committee of the political award agreed that it should be canceled . who lied about the holodomor in the 33rd year, and beat the whole of ukraine out of a stone of no holodomor, they yes, i don’t know how to speak in this, as a soviet journalist has a police award, it’s a shame for the police award, so thank you, but i have always been and remain against collective awards in general. that is, this we can write a police resume like this well, write if you like well, take into account the fact that it will be written people with whom you would never have any professional contacts in your life by the way , it would be nice if all the journalists gathered somewhere ukrainian but we don't want to take this beautiful man who traveled all over ukraine, but there is no choice while he has it. we don't want
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to take it. it would be a very strong move, and then we thought . committee and force can only be force, only destruction, after the project, putin will come another, so that only once we pay with land or energy resources. weapons, both credit and assistance, free assistance, and issuing a loan to yourself, there are different procedures, but i would really like people who, in principle, are facing a critical possibility of losing the state, be afraid that they will be paid with land or energy resources, and squeeze to begin with to pay if you they won't sell weapons, let's say, and there is a real possibility that a rocket will fall on your house, there simply won't be air defense, and if you take it as a candidate, you and your family will die
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well, if you live in ukraine, of course you don’t live in ukraine. it’s easy to think about ukrainian energy resources here, or you have a way out so that your descendants, who you will preserve, will preserve the state, will be paid with some kind of candles for the supply of weapons . i don’t think that langlist. even so, you have the choice to be with us or yes. or yes, if you think that you will get as a result of the victory, a lot of the state will be forced to disappoint you. the state will be poor for many decades because we will restore it, pay off debts and give loans, a large number of people who do not want to do this will leave here, no, we will not go to heaven, but we will not go to hell, you understand that we are now fighting for the opportunity to be in purgatory, from which there is a long-term road to heaven, of course, this paradise, the majority of our viewers who are now they talk to us there on the screen well, they won't see well, israel happens, we will tell you right away, you will not see paradise, but
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you will have the opportunity to build this paradise for your grandchildren, children, i don't think free ukraine or or or or called hell right now absolutely sure quickly so that i would drink like this there is no other and i will give it somehow everyone thinks that america is very poor and it does not have the energy resources of the earth yes yes yes i want to say that the yield in the state of iowa is probably about 10 times higher than the yield in ukraine the very rich there, for example, poltava oblast , you mean no no no no no no no the americans do not need any ukraine. they will somehow independently have gas, oil and electricity. help without offering to give it, what is this
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linglis and credit? i don’t understand it, this idiot volodya wrote oh, you will pay off . the soviet union paid off for years for lend-lease , firstly, it’s true, secondly, what difference does it make to you whether the soviet union paid off or not when did you live in this soviet union, it is not known what he gave to the americans, he did not give it to the americans, russia can do nothing, it can only use pieces of land transferred to other states and kill. this is what it can do, but everything else can be done by the civilized world but unfortunately, unfortunately, just look at the territory of the russian federation, just look at look at the world map, this means that russia is very, how to say, very precisely carrying out these invasive plans for the last 30 years, she has constantly proved it and unfortunately, we are sitting next to each other, if we were sitting, at least somewhere i don't know the difference between hungary
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and croatia yes that's possible, maybe we somehow different 30 300 that is 300 300 i confused the earth's sneakers from them and that's a fact that this siberia is the former siberian khanate of the tatars this is actually me to you i wanted to remind you that ukraine was a colony of russia, not russia, ukraine is now trying to liberate it from russia, you should not underestimate the enemy, russia is the last continental empire that is now deciding whether the continental empire can survive by destroying those who do not want to be part of this capital empire because the way out is simple, conquer the territory, drive out the population from the russian point of view, or can't we now or see what the answer to this question will be, it will be bloody, it is bloody, we will hope that the armed forces of ukraine can answer this question, so it will not work in russia, but the fact that we have a struggle ahead of us well, i think you all understand this very well. i would like everyone to understand very simply, if there was a victory for putin putin, you
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did not restore anything we would live on for our mat- in 40 million, they got a piece of bread and water a day, and he would show his 140 million with his fingers, they will behave badly, they will live like khokhly, yes. and we would be here, we would have nothing, no water in the taps, no electricity, pop everything by the clock one hour per day per day turn on the lights, the elevators are not too long - in short, it would be a real hell right now , just now, and thanks to the armed forces, this is not happening, thank god, and we have to somehow keep our fingers crossed, and we continue if it is an interesting question, that is, if putin annexes tomorrow donetsk luhansk oblast is not completely captured by kherson zaporizhzhia, our means will already be fighting on
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the territory of russia. well, we talked about this last time with vitaliy precisely about whether to evaluate the actions of the ukrainian army on the territory of crimea as invasion of the territory of the russian federation and this invasion, uh, according to the plans of russia, allows the use of nuclear weapons, this is the question. in their military doctrine, an attack on the russian federation means an opportunity for the russian federation to use nuclear weapons, so i don't have a simple answer, maybe think about something, but this is not an answer from the other side , this is where you are, the medical situation, yes. can declare the territory of the russian language to say that it falls under the influence of yes, he also once said that russia ends where the russian language ends brighton beach where there are a lot of e russia
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e soviet russian ukrainian belarusian jews there a lot of people speak russian so that he recently when there thought about ukraine, he said that the fact that ukrainians speak the ukrainian language does not prevent them from joining the russian federation. an article in two languages, but it is still part of the russian empire. that is, you are not deceiving us. even if you speak in your incomprehensible language, finland, sweden are joining nato, and we are going to refuse. no one is going to refuse . troops, if there are successes of the ukrainian army, there may be grounds for ukraine's accession to nato. the heads of the americans regarding ukraine and nato, and this
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seems to me to be very important and mine, just as we shouted here back in march, everyone give me some heavy weapons, and today these weapons are coming, which means that we may have to knock on this door much more intensively and shout much more and just right it seems to me that the accession of sweden to finland makes this opportunity gap a little wider, a little wider, of course, because we will now see how to convince those countries that will say that the accession of finland creates problems for nato, that's for sure us we already see that these countries exist, we talked about the reprimanded president today. i think that there will be some more such applications, and during the next actions we will see how the united states will be able to influence it , but i have the impression that the united states itself does not currently have a huge desire for ukraine to join nato, that's what the problem is, i think that the problem here is precisely that there is no obvious political will of the main players, or is there
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some strange hope that it is possible to ensure ukraine's security without this. and i keep saying that for for me, the ukrainian victory consists of two parts. the first is the restoration of territorial integrity, and this is the problem we talk about when why do we have territories that russia annexed for itself and consider immediately russian, because this is how you can go crazy from the point of view of international law, then you needed all the hitlerian germany should be left in the borders from stalingrad to well, they did not annex the old grid for themselves, but they annexed half of poland, because they annexed from moravia here what they wanted, they annexed, so, well, the second one is of course, joining nato, because i'll tell you honestly, you can disagree with me that if we don't join nato and even win the war, russia will simply prepare for a new war, and immediately. after peace, there will be no truce. i remind you all the time what helps in the east in arabic they don't even sign the peace there, they attribute a
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truce and immediately prepare for some kind of new war, and of course if something happens there with vladimir putin, well, his heir may not attack, but the heir of the heir is easy, easy will attack so all this must be clearly understood, that is, how long do we want to live in peace after a war of 10 years 15, do we want to prepare for our children to experience what our grandchildren experienced what we are experiencing now, ask yourself this question and understand in addition to nato, in addition to the nuclear umbrella of the united states there is no answer to the states of great britain, france, and this is always a question. great britain can give guarantees of temporary security in finland. well, she gives it now, but why can't she give us such guarantees for the time when we join nato? let's say. we don't have a war with russia, we apply to nato and at this time great britain is signing such an agreement with us well, it's easy for you, you see this formula of pain johnson was not afraid to go to stockholm to helsing helsing and do all this well, i think that there will be some more chances and gaps will not
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appear, but for this we need to win and ukrainian politicians would be very smart to take advantage of the opportunity to join nato, if we do n't, knock and they will open for you - i didn't say that by the way, you said it's true there are many here questions about nato, why don't the members accept too much? it seems to me that all of this has been explained, now i can still look at the questions that i would be surprised if in the occupied territories, why does my education not give due authority to this issue, teachers in particular from the kherson region really expect salary support , they they do not receive and are forced to work according to the program of the occupiers in order to have something to live for, to prepare their families, the graduates are not able to get to the point of passing the external examination and physically attend the external examination sessions of kindergartens. no reasonable explanations for their work, and this is a good question, because at one time we said, what if we occupied donetsk region and
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luhansk region? well, and violet, they study there in russian programs. but we would never study and our teachers would never teach us. but what can be done? when they write that there is no such thing, there is no other. well, how to deliver it to the kherson region, you need to understand the old saying, the occupied territory is the territory on which there is no ukrainian state . leaves the territory, it means that she loses the opportunity to fulfill her duties to the citizens who live there. they want to live in the occupation, they should not live there. this is what the state must create. it must create two conditions: the first is the liberation of the territory; the second is that there is no physical possibility to liberate the territory; the liberation of the population so that people leave the occupied
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the territory to the free territory, everything in the occupied territory cannot be unfolded ukrainian life and the second point is so subtle under the subconscious but it can also be conscious that i am always very much told that way . we are to blame for the fact that there is no ukrainian language, it’s not putin’s fault, it’s not the russian troops who entered kherson region, it’s some ukrainian officials who are bad, it’s they who created it, it’s not the russians who created it . how do you want to get ukrainian textbooks, something, or take an external examination when i know for sure that around uh, at least kherson, people simply ca n’t leave, and not only from kherson. and what and what and what and what do you think will come uh textbooks dump truck or ukrainian uh these uh - the teachers
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will come, nothing like that will happen, there is no need to blame those who are not guilty, we did not attack russia. yes, in this russia, we need to liberate our land and all, and restore ukrainian education there. citizens resonant tandem for the best with the rule of law without oligarchic lobbying for the interests of whom to take according to the example of ukraine, whose experience should be used in the first place is it possible to build an ideal state in our country, there is no ideal state yes and churchill said that democracy is not an ideal way of far but there is no better one so the model of the united states of america some japanese consider it to be sweden." but when you know the largest of the countries, there is such a simple indicator that the majority of the country absolutely does not want to change anything, in contrast to ukraine from russia from belarus, from moldova, i don't know about georgia, but
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all these countries ask people and every person. i would like to change education. and i would like to change health care there. as if everything is normal well, yes, to someone, what, well, two sunsets, the system of the big ones, the scandal surrounding obama’s medical reform, this is not an ideal country, swiss democracy, a referendum on every issue, but the citizens very often pass testimonies that stop the development of the country and in and the government gets away with it, but it is a wonderful system, people, everyone they take part in the management of the state, but not always effectively, er, er, that's why there is no ideal, but keep in mind, again, don't believe those who start to say that through their lips. but what is there for us in europe, that there is no corruption there, but that's the difference if they found out that he is a corrupt person, he is 100%. this is a good idea, because the state should not be
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perfectly efficient, it's just that we often say that ukraine should be like israel . it was created once and they sit for it under the president's friends to give the prime minister is a hudolman to ask to beg the former prime minister and no one goes to court it is a complicated process he does not have lawyers he claims that he is not guilty he was given a suit as a gift if we have if she is in love, such things, suits, everything, yes, of course, i say, but you have to understand that there will be no ideal state, well, the state can scare you. for this, you need tough, tough, serious work from the japanese with their effective state, where was 30 years off, no saturdays, yes, five days a year, a maximum of 30 years, 5 days - is that how you like it? no, all south korean presidents eat for
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corruption. we will win. corruption cannot be defeated, but it can be controlled, punished for it, reduced, not made to be total, and then, of course, in 10-15 years, ukraine will become a part of the accelerated procedure, which is for us in the european union expedited procedure to remind yes yes well the russians don't like it again yesterday they still said nato get rid of the european union we are not against anything now they are already against european soy mykola honestly when you ordered that they are not against the european essence medinsky said that it was aimed at them first yes yes yes yes they wanted to drag zelensky again into some kind of trap that he was not going to get into so that he would make some decisions with them that would cause an uprising in kyiv and then they quickly and this is the story yes yes yes yes yes how much they didn't succeed and there are no troops in kyiv , why what are they pretending to do now? well, they all
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switched to their position, which they defended, this position is simple so that ukraine does not exist. what is it here that i love when i turn to us or to someone. as we already discussed today, why are there no textbooks, there is another person here, a sincere ukrainian woman who says it is nice to listen to professional journalists. that is, we had to leave chernihiv to our native village in khmelnytskyi. there is a bad connection here. connection with the only thing that causes me to read the news on the internet is, come out, i live in a democratic country, not in russia. i want to see and hear professional journalists and politicians, and millions like me. well, what can we do to come to you? no, we have to fight to be included in t2 without the press for starters, then there won't be any problems why are you bad in order for it to exist, of course, and because a person watches on a digital
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signal er, these er channels, and there is only news and a marathon. by the way, there is already a huge claim in many because they are unclear host here, they also write about this to us, who during your ideological time served all that stupid russia was planted here, which was a prerequisite , they were simply preparing for the occupation, in fact, all these people they were preparing ukrainians for the occupation, now they sit with patriotic faces and apologize and serve already some other nations, moreover, congratulations, i always think about the fact that i think that putin was brought some kind of carrier and she looks like they are talking on ukrainian television, go please , and god, putin, first the task, they will probably be to prevent but let's see, and they have been saying everything in russian with a beautiful russian moscow accent for years that they are waiting for
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when putin will finally come. well, they didn't say that, they said it differently, but it's still horror and humiliation. and now i say i think that at the beginning of the war, of course, the only news of the official source is water, but it is necessary to understand that we can live in such a state for a long time. in general, there are no explanations. i will tell you honestly, and i was present at this meeting of the committee, but i was not the information of the verkhovna rada did not turn out to be that neither the national security council nor the national council for television and radio broadcasting nor the ministry of culture and information policy did not make decisions to disconnect three channels from t2, they said it several times, there were no secret documents either, so it was made by the heads of the rrt concern, who refuse to say on the basis of what they did it is clean water just the destruction of freedom of speech through self-government then we want to meet the copenhagen criteria nikolay well that's also a problem that these people directly they are attacking the interests of the president of the country, the
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state authorities, they are just showing that we are an authoritarian state, so we are at war with russia, you have no freedom of speech, here we are, an official can turn off the tv channel because we want it, and the museum is nothing, these people have not been removed from their positions yet well, of course, i will honestly tell you that this is an anti-ukrainian, anti-state activity, those who did it must answer, they must say who called them and said this, and this person must be fired from his job, it must all be public, and we are appealing to the president, but it is necessary to appeal to the ukrainians and for the ukrainians to understand that there are no real opportunities to integrate where we need to integrate , with this attitude to freedom of speech, we will not be there and everyone can see it time i can hear in all the auditoriums and what happened there? why did it happen?
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ensured the functioning of the single marathon, everything that exists and no one provides anything and there is nothing of this, but this chain that we see and observe today in the 22nd year, you know it began, among other things, with the ban of ntv in 2005 yes, and by the way, then putin i also said it in this way to the committee, is it me or do i remember it? i remember the subjects of the fifth pardon for the first time in the first year of 2001. i have nothing to do with it - this is the sport of the economic subjects . said our colleague to the world, but look at daddy something гусинский такой негодяй well, that's it. how can it be duplicated? it's some kind of idiocy. yes, we are now living in such a state during the war. keep in mind that this war started, among other things, because of the fact that when freedom of speech was in russia and everything is passed on by us the microphone to our dear colleagues from radio svoboda starts and no they still say 30 seconds 25 yes no
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why can we say that radio svoboda will now come where there is also little opportunity to reach our dear viewer if we were in t2 because here we show a lot of important information with of various information sources, by the way, we monopolize this one, please yes, we have many sources, please radio svoboda greetings - this is freedom life my name is vlasta lazur the events of the 79th day of the war are discussed during the next hour, we pray on the pages of radio svoboda on facebook and youtube and also on the air of the espresso tv channel last night, the russian invaders launched a rocket attack on the dergachiv cultural center
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