thank you vita this was viktoria shugan about the preparation of the ukrainian band for the performance at eurovision the secondary eurovision final will take place this weekend kalush of the orchestra will represent ukraine, where the war has been going on for almost three months, good evening to all ukrainians who joined our broadcast my name is yuliya spachynska and i will be working until midnight today together with you, we will be joined by interesting guests, we will discuss the current situation in our country with you, so let's immediately give a little information and we will add a guest whom we are very much looking forward to, the war against russia is entering a protracted phase, but

a turning point is gradually taking place in the direction of ukraine. ukraine has heavy weapons now, its presence at the front is spotty , but for a radical breakthrough, weeks of preparation and supplies are needed. he is the director of the institute of world politics, he is now in direct contact with us mr. yevgeny i congratulate you i can see you now let's check how i hear you i congratulate you mrs. yuliya glory to ukraine glory to the heroes mr. yevgeny yevgeny we see that oleksiy reznikov declares that until may 9 there is nothing like that i managed to make a brain test there, and the war is now entering a protracted phase. i have already heard somewhere that it is said to sell

on july 12, and you already know mr. evgeny. i think it is possible to find a calendar here with holidays that are celebrated in the russian federation in order to understand the situation in this way. 79th day of a full-scale invasion, your feelings ukraine removed from the agenda the issue of its own existence and its own sovereignty ukrainians proved to the whole world that they are capable of defending their own state and this, i think, is the most important preliminary result of the war, but one more result is that ukraine itself acts in such a way as if from it did not expect either the russians or our western partners, and this is definitely a surprise for them and the fact that we will receive

heavy artillery only after 70 days. in fact, resistance is evidence of underestimation by the west first of all, military experts on the state of the armed forces and the state of ukrainian society. i think that they approached only on formal grounds and did not take into account a number of factors. they did not take into account that ukrainian society after the revolution of dignity was significantly mobilized and aimed at protecting its own interests. they did not take into account that on the euromaidan there are many of we learned to build barricades quickly, they did not take into account that during the years of the ato , hundreds of thousands of ukrainian soldiers and not only conscripts and those who signed a contract, and military officers, pay

attention to the people who currently lead the armed forces, including valery zaluzhnyi and serhiy sheptala and many others, serhiy naev, they developed their military career after 2014, this is an obvious reality, so ukraine is not on the way to victory in this doubts but at the same time, there is no doubt that we are facing a cynical and cruel opponent who wants to destroy us, you know, over the past few days it has become clear that russia does not want to defeat ukraine, but wants destroy ukraine and this. in my opinion, we need to realize this, we need to make it clear to our

citizens, talk to them about it openly and mobilize them so that ukraine resists and does it as effectively as possible, that is, i understand you correctly now about what you are saying to us ukrainians you need to be with such a neighbor at all times, be ready, both women and men must undergo certain training, i understand correctly , so that you can fight back against this neighbor. you know , until february 24, 2022, when i heard advice to ukraine to be like israel, i always said that we lack jews for this, but practice shows that we do not lack ukrainians, and i think that we are really now going through the process of completing the formation of the ukrainian

political nation, thanks to the successes and dedication of our military, this is a significant step forward compared to previous years, we are in a state when the process of forming a political nation is really coming to an end and there is an awareness of the ukrainian state, i will actually remind you of one figure that a very similar rating group conducted a survey not so long ago noted that more than 90% of the respondents believe in victory over russia, why not 100 for a democratic society, this is normal, it cannot be 100% in a democratic society, and let me remind you that more than 90% supported the independence of ukraine on december 1, 1991, which was proclaimed by the verkhovna rada on august 24, 1991

that is, well, we understand that these are not the same people , because during this time millions of people died, millions of people were born, got the right to vote, etc. the ability to defend one's own interests is an achievement that not every european country can boast of, that is, in fact, mr. yevgeny, it is what is being formed right before our eyes. that's because before the large-scale invasion we talked about the ukrainian identity. that's how we talked about what could to unite ukrainians and it seemed to us that we were so small, well, some experts explained that we are taking certain steps , we simply do not notice those steps, those steps are just

so small, and now i it seems that we are going like this, you know, with these soapy steps, will we be such a monolithic nation, because literally recently i had the opportunity to visit europe, so because they work as well as volunteers, many europeans say we did not know about ukrainians, we did not distinguish ukrainians from mozkovites, we us i can't believe that in the 21st century this can happen, moreover, even the poles told me, "what the hell? i knew two ukrainians there, but it turns out you're not like that. and we're not familiar with you at all. we're now coughing up the consequences with blood." centuries of ukrainian statelessness, and this too must be understood, it is not our fault, nor even our ancestors

, that ukraine lost its statehood, and accordingly, well, in fact, in the 18th century, finally and then until the end of the 20th, there were attempts to restore statehood, they existed, but they were unsuccessful. therefore now ukraine is not just going through a difficult period of its recent history, it is now waging a war of independence, the paradox is that this is a war of independence in the 31st year of our country's existence, but we also understand that it is a war in which ukraine has no right to lose and we know that ukraine will not lose this war, this is an element of the consolidation of ukrainians and i can say with certainty that the ukrainian political nation will not be created on the basis of integral nationalism

, because in this case it will be a step back rather than a step going forward, it will function and exist as a nation whose task is to be successful and one of the factors that i want to draw attention to is that ukraine has the largest territory in europe, therefore any integration project on the territory of europe be it the european union or nato, it cannot be successful without the involvement of the continent's largest state in it. this is an absolutely obvious fact. and this is a fact that we all must promote, about which we must talk. thus, in our history, there were years when ukraine was consciously or unconsciously in the shadow of the russian it was the federation, but it won't happen again, i think it will never happen, mr. yevgeny. how would you

comment like that because the information that the head of the pentagon, lloyd austin, has appeared there for the first time since the beginning of the russian invasion spoke with the minister of defense of russia serhii shuga, it turns out that he was found, i don't know where he was kept, where he was hidden, because someone said that he was under house arrest. yes, but he still spoke with him, and this was reported in his statement by the spokesman of e- john kirby austin of the pentagon called for an immediate ceasefire in ukraine and emphasized the importance of maintaining the line of communication, but what exactly it was about was not disclosed, because they said that it should remain behind closed doors. is there still room for negotiations? with such people, if it is, the united states and russia can negotiate, because they have not declared war on each other or a special

military operation, the truth is that's why they say there is no doubt here - it's one or two times. the united states is not interested in the disintegration of russia, they are, according to mr. biden, interested in strategic friends of russia, but this does not mean that they are interested in its disintegration , because the disintegration of russia can lead to the fact that its fragments will strengthen china, and for the united states this scenario, well, i would say extremely dramatic that's why we have what we have. and i wouldn't react jealously to this conversation between kostin and shoigu, because it

took place after the meeting at rammstein. in the senate of the united states, the consideration of the project on providing aid to ukraine has been somewhat slowed down. this is purely, well, a maximum tactical maneuver, because ukraine will soon enough receive these funds allocated to help her. well, 40 billion dollars. this is really an astronomical amount. spheres will not only be military ugh, they are yevgeny and if you said about that or you know, we are talking with you, i thought about it, you know, you said, ukraine existed for 31 years, i thought about something like mine, this vyshyvanka today is so what is multi-colored, which has different entanglements

in itself, in fact, the ukrainian people are the same, and we probably need to get to know each other, because when they talked about er-e oppression, for some reason they only talked about russian-speaking people, yes. but we have to remember that there are people living here who speak hungarian, who speak polish, who speak romanian. it seems to me that so-and-so is colorful in this, that, that, that, the meaning of all of this in this variety, we got to know each other. well, of course , we are a colorful, multinational nation, we no longer have only the ukrainian component, we are not too monolithic in this issues and in fact i do not see any tragedy in this because ukraine is protected not only by ethnic ukrainians and not only by ukrainian-speaking citizens of ukraine and russian-speaking citizens, that is, war, you know how often it happens, she spoke a catalyst for certain processes, but what did you say about

color? and i would say that war makes the world black and white around, and during war it is more clearly defined who is able to defend national interests, who is able to defend ukraine, and who will not do it, will not do it at all and never, and the question it is not whether the media will tell about it. the question is that people who will return from the war, and wars always end , they will have the moral right to ask. to do in order to change this situation and, accordingly, reshape it for the better, we really don't have to live only with the thought that ah-ha-hah we will be accepted into the european union this year no they won't

be accepted this year we won't be accepted into the european union we still need to do there are enough internal changes for us to become a full-fledged member of the european community. and these changes are necessary because at the moment, among other things , due to russian aggression, we have become the poorest country in europe, our losses are huge, russia is deliberately destroying the ukrainian economy, the ukrainian infrastructure , so that at any end of the war, we could not quickly overtake it, because a prosperous ukraine is the biggest challenge for russia, for any russian government, regardless of what the name of the russian president is, one should not focus on putin, he is in in this case, the russians and the establishment, unfortunately, have an

imperial bacillus, which, you know, is like herpes, it manifests itself in them every time it comes out in various places ugh well, i don’t even know if it’s actually bacillus, it seems to me that most of society is infected with this bacillus, so what part of society is there, this is one thing , but when people who are near the stern of the state, they talk, repeat, broadcast nonsense about denazification, about the fact that they are carrying out demilitarization, destroying dozens of ukrainian schools hospitals killing hundreds of ukrainian children and thousands of peaceful ukrainian residents, i don't know what to talk about here, what positive impressions can be positive here emotions, how is it possible to agree on anything with

russia, in fact, after it became known about the crimes in buch, as for me, the question of any negotiations with russia, they became such a common place, not more than that, yevgena, by the way , there is information that russian troops appeared they started interrogating the children who are being evacuated from the field, that's how mariupol mayor radik petro andryushchenko reported that the russian police officers started interrogating children who, together with their parents, are trying to simply leave the city, that's it it also comes to the conclusion that ah hmm only after such interrogations do they understand in which direction to let them in. let 's say that we have repeatedly read about various concentration camps that are going to be set up there for ukrainians and

we in the 21st century read this and do not believe it but when you see what they are doing to mariupol, what they are doing to the steel connection, what they are going to do with its soldiers and people what happened in buch in irpen, you understand that in principle all these articles were read by putin in the summer, who then read them by sergeitsev, so in principle it is everything is their reality, that is, theirs reality is concentration camps for ukrainians, as far as i'm concerned, hitler's thoughts were the property of the fairy, or were they also a reality, but this did not prevent the world community from breaking the backbone of nazism. i think that we should be aware of the fact that we defeated nazism , we will also defeat schism, i don't know how much it will take time. i think that there is enough, but we will definitely win. because in fact, historically, without ukrainians in the army, you know, they are much less

effective than with them, and these traditions of the cossack infantry, and actually the traditions of ukrainians during first, during the second world war, that’s why they actually uh, well, first, at one time, the russian imperial power, then the soviet power destroyed various references to the victory of ukrainians in order not to give excuses, and in fact, ukraine demonstrated to the whole world that it is a nation primarily of warriors and this nation of warriors is confident that it will be able to convert their success in strengthening its own position in europe, that is, already on the agenda is the question that the international security system will change after the russian-ukrainian war, because not

can humanity swallow bucha and mariupol and the attack of a nuclear power on a country that has renounced nuclear weapons, all this cannot be swallowed, otherwise the foundations of some kind of human coexistence will be completely destroyed, i still hope that somewhere in the manger of hope that, after all, the world and humanity are everything i don't know, i thank you for joining our broadcast. thank you. i wish you good health. evgeny magda was just with us as a communication channel . we can also talk about the fact that the armed forces of ukraine have already destroyed 200 russian military aircraft, in fact, this is the anniversary regular the date during the large-scale invasion of russia was reported by the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine, according to the general staff, in the large-scale wars against ukraine, russia also lost

about 26,900 of its soldiers, in particular, 250 died in the last a-a day. well, today the first trial regarding the war crimes of the armed occupiers began. solomian district court kyiv began to hear the case regarding the 21-year-old russian, the commander of the tank division, vadym e.e. shishimari, who is accused of murdering a civilian in the sumy region. the defendant and his defense counsel did not voice their position, although according to the prosecutor, during the investigation , shishimarin admitted his guilt, the next hearing in this case was scheduled for may 18. so, in fact, in a few days, there are footage from the courtroom today, let's watch them without comments , how was it on tuesday in the next

week of culture, it will be the 17th for me regarding the court case jury room for his country ukraine is a treasure he does not have any conditions of stay e-e he is

treated in accordance with the pronounced legislation in particular, to the requirements of international norms that regulate such issues, at least to date, no complaints have been filed against him, and i will repeat once again, this is the first article that is being considered in ukraine. and now he is in direct contact with us, vladyslav seleznyov, a military journalist, the speaker of the general staff from suma, we will be able to discuss this topic with him as well , vladislav, i wish you good health. glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes, mr. vladyslav. we have just shown these eyes the footage is actually the first, the first trial for war crimes and the occupiers began today, yes, there was information that this is vadim shishimarin, yes. if i am not mistaken, at first he

admitted his guilt, now he is silent, so far we do not have any information, please comment on the trial in general which was held today on may 18, the next meeting on this case was postponed, a very symbolic date, the date of the beginning of the deportation of the crimean tatar people in 1942. a huge number of crimean residents of the crimean economic nationality died as a result of this deportation, died during your time, the premises died during the auditing of the new lands, what am i leading evil that is not punished, it always returns , as the evil and crimes of the actions of the soviet authorities for the deportation of the crimean tatar people yes itself and now there are no roots in the actions of the russian

federation this year. that the world will constantly encounter a symbol, and that is why the ukrainian nation is now at the forefront of the fight against all world evil, that is why it is very important to prove the guilt of every russian serviceman who came to our land with weapons in his hands to buy, rape, destroy , rob, it is equally important before bring to justice those officials of the russian federation who gave criminal orders and executed criminal orders. i understand that this issue is of planetary scale and ahead of our country a lot of work, but once again, as i return to the key thesis, evil that is not punished, it returns again. vladyslav well, today i also talked about the fact that 26,900 russian soldiers

were killed on ukrainian soil. the figure was already talked about today that there are humanitarians, there are mathematicians , they can count this number, and the humanitarians will say a little, who will you belong to now, the humanitarians or the mathematicians 26,900 i will save myself first of all on the realists in ukrainian factories there is such a resource, find your e- e is specifically aimed at representatives of the russian federation, at the relatives of those russians who died or went missing on the territory of our country during the implementation of the so -called special operation, during this time e-e , according to the e-e administrators of this resource , 32,000 have already contacted them individuals from within the framework of the search for their relatives and close acquaintances so i created a skin to the conclusion that the ukrainian general staff quite carefully calculates the losses of the

russian ministry of education and history for all this losses are an order of magnitude higher more pretty, if i’m honest, i apologize for being harsh on the air, but in particular today, 250 soldiers died in the last day and a half of the military from the front, yes , mr. vladyslav, there is also such an opinion, i listened to one expert where he said that so far this is not a counteroffensive of ukraine. until you will kill on day e, 500 russian soldiers will throw another 2,000 at you. when you start killing 2,000 hryvnias each, then you are just going to counteroffensive . azerbaijani expert and i understand that the ukrainian army should introduce a fourth -generation war, that is, in fact, a non-contact war with a large number of destroyed enemies

. which works at short distances with heavenly e-e discipleship we need up to the great mikadze in such industrial in commercial e-e quantities we need very aerial surveillance systems if there is some strategic influence on the final devices and we need aviation in order for us to have connections, there may be mysterious battle orders of the russian workers until the time when we do not receive these weapons, uh, we will have such not very large losses among our enemies and taking into account the fact that the ukrainians are conducting an investigation and are fighting hard, our artillery works skillfully and works very effectively, but once again, in order for us to have the opportunity to break through at the end of this war, we need modern

high-tech, high-precision weapons with the help of which we will be able to destroy in large quantities the texts of the years that came to our land with weapons in their hands, and there is an addition, if this state of affairs continues in our country for at least the next two months, then there is a probability that the russian federation will create additional mobilization reserves, support precisely the reserves in the number of tickets of others, no less infinite with the quantitative ones that are currently on e-e ukraine on the russian-ukrainian front in order to replace the losses in the living world of that time for there is no reason for our western parquets, namely the time to waste everything that is in the resource base of our partners and to direct this shelter to counterfeit ukrainian action, this is very important and not only for ukraine, for this world, i would really like to talk with you in particular about luhansk region, so about what

today it's happening there and about