forces of ukraine, if it is still being conducted there, we understand that it is a purely security component, this is the component , today from the very morning there were mortar attacks, uh, we heard these attacks, we heard them. now i already know what an arrival is, what a departure is. i heard it. we were standing near the church quickly trying to unload the packages and there was an arrival. well, there was an arrival. it’s hard for me to say how long it was there. i don’t know. 500 m from 15 km. well, it’s unreal scary. people who are now in ruska lozova, there are few of them there. the number is about 20-30 people. hmmm, they are all located somewhere, i don't know, in the basements. they were even afraid to go out because they don't understand what could be there. well, it's unreal scary, i was unreal scary . why did you go to them and what did they ask to spend more uh everyone asked to spend bread

and medicine we had a car with medicine we managed to distribute some medicine but after these shellings the guys said that it is very urgent to leave there and unfortunately not even all the medicine what we have we were in the car, we were able to pass it there, but this serhii dobrody from pyatikhatok, we will pass everything to him and he will definitely pass everything to the people, as we understand, if you eventually let volunteers there, the demining of russian lozova has already taken place. so this does not protect against the arrival of this there is also the work of enemy artillery, which apparently remains somewhere in zone a of ruska lozova, and so it can reach this town of the village yes, but the demining has already taken place or has it taken place completely as far as i know demining took place, but from today we will go there, until they don't let volunteers in,

we stopped by first, i don't know. apparently, there was no one there in 3-5 days, i can't say if they will launch someone there again, that's why they turned to we have a company today. we planned none. in july, the guys told us that there is no need to do this yet, but you understand that even if the demining took place, well, they are shelling mortars. they left when there was such an opportunity, if there was such an opportunity, why do they still remain there, is it some kind of fear that they will not find themselves in eh? well, somewhere in other ukrainian regions, eh, do they not want to leave everything they had earned there, the main thing the problem is that there are pensioners left there, there are

disabled people and unfortunately there are bedridden disabled people, the road there is broken in st. and i was driving a passat, well, it’s impossible. if i can’t even imagine how it is possible to evacuate those people, if there is a special transport, the road is broken and people, well, just even if they want well, for now it is very difficult to evacuate from there, it is very difficult to tell about the atrocities of the russian occupiers , they told, they told, they told different things, not everything there, now they can tell like that, so what does that mean , we are still emotional and have not even moved away from everything that happened there, but they did everything like that as in buch, as in irpen, they committed atrocities and abused people. unfortunately, the same thing happened here. thank you. thank you, yura, for your work and humor. probably , this is also very important now. yuriy sokalskyi , volunteers, co-founder of the public organization captain ua, who visited ruska lozovaya today and is obviously somewhat shocked. well, we continue and move on, especially with the news

now. what is our plan? dear colleagues, we are going further to popasnaya, rather, to mykolykhantov , the head of the military administration of popasnaya, but now the military the administration is located in bakhmut, as far as we understand, and from there it tries to deliver humanitarian aid directly to the residents of popasna, this is the content of popasna, which includes 14 territorial communities, if i am not mistaken, mykola you are with us good day glory to ukraine glory to the heroes of course we are with you we are with you we are with you we feel it thank you mykola tell me, please, when was the last time you were able to deliver humanitarian aid to the popasnya community, today in komyshuva we delivered 20 kits for people who are e- are protecting themselves with shelters, and today we were able to

get three children and five adults out of the hut. tell me, are they able to somehow get out on their own, because we know that the russian occupiers began to take people out en masse from there the territory controlled by them, yes, you have the right to get out of the city, people can’t even leave on foot, and from komyshuvakha, from grubivka, from troitsky, what can people leave ? about one and a half thousand, now it is possible that it is less, now you have named the numbers that apply to the city, gradually, gradually, there were thousands during the occupation, 1,500 remained, now there are 3,000 in the entire community, that is, 1,500 to be captured and 1,500 in other settlements. why didn't people leave? there was no opportunity or there was no desire

. people thought that this year would be lucky, as it was in 14-15 years. when we won, everyone was sure that the armed forces of ukraine would repel this attack and we would all stay here . but there were also reasons that people had elderly relatives and parents. they either had mobile phones or were not mobile at all. many people, uh, sometimes, well , in their lives, they never left popasna in our country. there are even cases when a person from that group left for bakhmut, this is less than 30 km and he says oh what what it's an interesting city. first time here, can you imagine it's been 30 years? please tell me, first of all, we'll take kiev in three days to more than two and a half months later, we'll take

popasno . they show off very much that they have taken this height, and there is an understanding of what is happening in popasnaya itself, that is, how are the occupiers with the local population there? is it still possible for people to somehow get out of there, at least somewhere , and the city even exists. how is it, and not on the map very you asked a lot of questions, so uh, taking into account the ether, well, i will try to answer you. well, so that you understand that in these 68 days, they walked five and a half kilometers, that is, on average, 80 m per day, they really took step by step, as such, almost no time ago that every building is either destroyed or damaged, and they killed not only popasna , they killed many of our civilians, by the way,

russian-speaking people, orthodox people. they killed hundreds of our soldiers. they completely destroyed everything . how important was it to them? i understand, but i must also draw attention to the fact that thousands of russians died there too, and all this is because of the sick ambitions of just one person, putin, and, of course, with the help of his henchmen, the russians who are watching and supporting this. i am sure that now their eyes are already opening, but well, at a high price for the aggressor and for us, for the people who defend their land, mr. mykola. can you identify the phenomenon of collaboration with the occupiers? in particular, i just want to note that such things also happen in kherson

oblast. we saw gunners in kyiv, even in lviv. if i'm not mistaken, the law enforcement officers and special services are alone. again, the gunners were caught, but i want to understand whether one of the e-e representatives. i don't know the local self-government. for cooperation with the occupier, fortunately, no one from us went for cooperation, and even this year, i did not imagine it, really, when there was a party of regions in the 14th year. well, you understand that this party supported the aggressor country, which is now the aggressor there really was a referendum, i won't argue that more than 90% came to these referendums eh no, there are no elections so many people did

not go to the polling stations their fate , but unfortunately, now it is also difficult for everyone else who never supported russia and who remained ukrainians in heart and soul and deeds . mykola tell me, do you have a personal understanding of why the russian occupiers are taking people out of their controlled territory is it possible with propaganda purposes or some other goals they are pursuing, i can’t say for sure why they are doing it, what i see is that they are recording a video , where people are saying that the government is bad , the armed forces of ukraine are bad, but i am sure that they well, they are harmful because first of all people will see how democratic ukraine is and how uh, what is happening in russia today, a

woman called me today, she lives in odesa and says, well , there is information that relatives have been taken to pervomaisk and they say that you do not have the right to communicate even before the shooting, don't call anyone with ukraine, you'll have problems, i say well, you see how we differ in well, yes, we used to think that we were there when the soviet union was there, or that we were one. now i see how democratic we are. how much is everything in ukraine good and how harsh and unfair the russians treat our people now everyone, even those who have left, they understand that they are in a fairy tale in quotation marks mykola please tell me if there is an understanding of that to a greater extent the enemy dealt with the issue of the popasnaya and popasnya districts in particular. that is, they were uh, maybe even people with ukrainian citizenship, but from the so-called dpr and ln of the lpr, the russians themselves call them

mobs, by the way. there was some kind of collaboration, i.e. i would like to get some kind of complete portrait of those who i say occupied pozna and the adjacent territories. if that is the case, you are asking me a question to which i feel that way. you know the answer. but i will answer you in the format. i have known since the 15th year, when they captured debaltseve, that all those er-e sales people from donetsk and luhansk regions who supported the so-called referendums and the pseudo-formation of the lpr dpr, they were put first on foot to go ahead, and already behind there were tanks and some the equipment there told them, well, this is your land, you invited us here to liberate it. well, here, let's fight, and the children are in the front lines, and they all were there. i know the crushed dead and so on, and now the same thing

is happening, representatives of former residents of luhansk and our former donetsk regions the ukrainians go in the first rows, they are followed by the regular russian troops, and then the kadyrov troops come, when there is more or less what they could capture there, they shoot something with their phones and report to their don there or whatever. thank you, mr. kola. thank you for your work. taking into account all the circumstances that are currently taking place, mykola khan llc, the head of the povysnya military administration, was in touch with us. well , while we are waiting for the inclusion of our next guest, there is an opportunity to present several important news and always taking advantage of the opportunity, i try to inform in particular about the events in the occupied , now temporarily occupied ukrainian territories , because the information from there is very important, and here are the

speakers. the weeks of the war could join our broadcast, firstly, they at least had a connection, now this is a rarity there , and secondly, these people no longer feel safe when they remain in the occupation, but still try to communicate with free ukraine with us as by journalists and we can't put their lives and safety under any threat either. therefore, for the time being, we proceed from the given news. the russian occupiers seized a factory of reinforced concrete structures and a sand quarry in the melitopol district of the zaporizhia region. this is reported by the ria melitopol publication. at the factory, the occupiers are producing blocks for repair airfield and strengthening their positions, the russians are taking sand from the terpaniv quarry, now they are taking sand to a factory for the production of concrete slabs well, unfortunately, we see that our industrial

capacity a-a, in particular, plants for the production of concrete are used by the occupiers here as well. to be honest, i remember azovstal and the repeated engagements with the management of this plant, which say how difficult and how important it was for them to completely stop the conservation of the plant so that the enemy could not use its capacity, this is wow and more one news from kherson lyudmila denisova, the verkhovna rada's human rights representative, notes that recruiters have arrived in temporarily occupied kherson. they are looking for people who are ready to cooperate. the group tortured up to 50 people and more 120 residents of the city were kidnapped ah and if i can now on the rights of publicity, so to speak, eh, to note the need for our people, after all, to read more, in particular, about those who get out of russian

captivity , then on me a text about er about the head of an old gun shop in kherson oblast. he is one of the heroes of er roman bondarchuk's film the sheriff, and there he talks about three weeks in captivity and why the russians will never understand us, they wonder how come you didn't run away how is it in general, it is possible to stay with the people in your community. and even more so. wow, people choose you. how is that possible? well, this is a tribe. it's just a completely new story. it's not clear. they've been living in their conservation since 30 years ago . connect now gennady ryabtsev expert on energy issues mr. gennady congratulations to you mr. gennady well, we cannot do

without your expert assessment of everything that is happening in the context of energy well, we understand that first of all we are a large-scale invasion of russia in ukraine, new trends have taken over the world energy industry and now it somehow looks like civilized countries are reviewing their approach to energy security and energy capabilities in general, and they are declaring to us that everyone wants to distance themselves from russian oil and in the future, gas and in general, but we understand that this time, that it is difficult and technological, financial, and so on, nevertheless, ukraine is waiting for when the european union, in particular, will succeed in at least an oil embargo . maybe hungary's game, in your opinion, is a game against russia - it's a game against ukraine, maybe it's a game in their own

interests, because their claims, well, they are very careful about going to the sea and a stone in horodets in croatia. i also remember it very well. well, after all, on my point of view, national interests are the main thing here and we see that the government was re-elected. the same political force remained in power after the elections and this confirms that the majority of hungarians consider the course chosen by the leadership to be the right one, we can have different attitudes to this but force someone it is hardly possible to help us, because then it will be help even from the heart, and we do not need such help, if we talk about objective reasons, then

it is not only hungary that there is a low number of countries that significantly depend on the supply of energy carriers with the russian federation, a low number of balkan countries depends from the supply of gas for almost 100%, the low countries of eastern and southern europe depend on the supply of oil and petroleum products for more than 80%. including hungary, and that is why there are now well, let's say this is how certain negotiations are going, certain efforts somehow facilitate this rejection of russian energy carriers, as for hungary, for clarification , you can see the minister of foreign affairs of hungary, patersia artu, said that the rejection of russian

oil will cost hungary 700 million euros, and in his interview he mentioned this, i will quote him, our oil refinery is designed for russian oil for the processing of other types of oil requires investments from 500 to 500 million euros to replace the pipeline from russia it is necessary to expand the carrying capacity of the pipeline from the adriatic sea to it needs another 200 million euros, well, that is, i hinted at 700 million euros. please tell me, this could be the price if the european union somehow compensates with the price of hungary’s agreement to the warehouse. it is quite possible that this is so, especially if it seems like a lot of money , but if it is distributed over several years during which there will be this refusal of russian energy carriers to happen. i think that it is quite possible, including and not only for hungary, because there are other countries, the same slovakia, the same czech republic, they see, we see how much they

they help ukraine, including weapons, but they will not be able to really refuse the same russian supplies from the supply of petroleum raw materials, they are simply objectively unable. they will not be able to simply switch to other sources of supplies because they really started post socialist states were developed, their technologies were developed for russian oil for soviet oil, and it is very difficult now to find those sources from which it is possible to supply raw materials similar in composition, but it is not means that no one does anything, they will do it. yes, this is the bureaucracy - this is the european bureaucracy, no, no, no decision is made within a

day, two weeks, several or months, usually a decision is made over several years, it is considered, and with the cooperation procedure, which is the main one in the european union, it is simple it is impossible to speed it up because the procedures there are, well , very long, at least three months for one procedure, who notices such a moment, and maybe you will confirm, and maybe you will deny, and here we are now as if we are quarreling with our european partners there, why don’t you introduce cargo as soon as possible and so on, but we understand that when a large flow is abruptly cut off, even in theory, if we talk about energy carriers, this leads to an increase in prices and a significant true, we understand this, and this means that hmmm, the price of oil in the world will increase significantly, and

the russian federation can only earn less by selling it, almost the same, if not more money, money, yes, definitely. first, he and 63 billion euros were earned by the russian federation, that is, almost as much as it spent on the war in ukraine , and this is only the data for the beginning of may, and hmm. i wouldn't say that the prices for oil are very high here, because oil fluctuates somewhere at the level of $100,105 per barrel, that's more -less, not so, not so catastrophic levels, in my opinion , the extremely high gas quotations are much worse, if, for example, the european union would limit the appetites of gas speculators , first of all, financial scoundrels, so that they would not

afford these swings . this game on e-e european gas hubs, then this would contribute to a better uhm freeing the market from russian energy carriers, however, if we are talking about oil, it is quite possible and most likely we uh will receive a corresponding decision that the ban is a complete ban on the purchase of russian raw materials by european states uh will be dated in 2023, as for gas, the complete ban on the purchase of russian gas will be dated 27-28. that is, this process has been launched once again.

there is a high probability that they will be brought to an end because the number said that in relation to the oil embargo, it will start somewhere in about 9 months. or rather, when this effect will occur from such restrictions for the russian federation, it will start like this, well, that is, 2023 to say in full, do you know this impact? some people believe that the impact occurs only after all these embargoes are implemented, but in fact the impact is happening now because there are those risks that are around the purchase of russian energy sources, these high risks that have arisen, first of all, they contribute to the reduction

of the price of energy sources, and secondly, they contribute to the fact that a large number of companies simply do not want to contact russia and suppliers of russian raw materials, and we see that they are the same oil copies 100, while russian oil is sold at $70, at $75 per barrel, the same gas quotations there are 1,000, where did 1,100 or 1,200 come from, and gas is sold at a price of 500-700 dollars per 1,000 cubic meters, and we see that even for according to official reports, the same pansionov said that he expects a 17% reduction in the production of oil raw materials in ukraine, in ukraine, and in russia. and this means that the income will decrease proportionally. and if these same oil wells are closed, if they are cemented, then they

will never be able to be restored, and besides, if gas wells are closed, then they will also not be restored, and in order to develop new deposits, equipment is needed, technologies are needed we need money, and who will give it to mr. gennady? we understand that it is ok that the bargo has actually already started, only its effect will be slightly delayed and this has its reasons, its reasons, but we must also understand that as russia loses honey in funds and will lose its sales market, it will probably be engaged in the search new e-e points of sale of its oil in the perspective of its gas and so on, where will it look for these opportunities, does it have such opportunities, all the possibilities of diversification have already

been exhausted, in order to develop these opportunities, the necessary technologies are needed, money is needed specialists uh, time is needed, well, the only thing that russia has is time, and it is unlikely that it is uh, in full, because when you want to reorient oil flows somewhere, you need oil pipelines that would go to the coast, for example, or directly to those consumers who need oil raw materials . if you are interested in the coast - this is also a few weeks ago, they allegedly talked about trying to build an oil pipeline, in particular, somewhere in asia, so that is, they hinted that you will repeat this story. china is even giving up power to itself rud two because they say no, we don’t want

mongolia to be a transit transit state. and how to supply gas to china if not through mongolia, that’s why there are a lot of questions. well, again, those future consumers, they put forward such a quantity proposals from which the russian federation cannot refuse is that it will require extremely high costs and where to get the funds in order to somehow compensate for these costs, because new fields and new projects are costs for seven 10-15 years a-a without of any compensation. that is, you just need to put funds somewhere for 7-10 fifteen years and wait

for them to work somewhere in 15 years and start to make a profit, but the rest of the world will not stand by and wait for the russian oil and gas companies to make these profits will you receive or collect the latest events, will the hot phase also become a point of reference for the civilized world to review the issues of energy on our planet? well, we know that, for example, in germany for a long time there, it abandoned nuclear generation in favor of there are other resources and so on. i understand that one type of energy cannot cover all needs, but less, but some new trends very briefly, if possible, are you already observing green energy or something else somewhere else