then you just need to put the funds somewhere for 7-10 fifteen-fifteen years and wait for them to work somewhere in 15 years and start to make a profit, but the rest of the world will not stand by and wait for the russian oil and gas companies to get these profits will you receive or collect questions ? i am concerned, to be honest, in the light of recent events, will russia's aggression against ukraine and the hot phase become a starting point for the civilized world's review of energy issues on our planet? well, we know that, for example, in germany for a long time there, i refused nuclear generation in favor of other resources and so on. i understand that one type of energy does not cover all needs, but less so, some new trends very briefly, if possible, are you already watching how

green energy is doing or something else somewhere? in other places there was a stir sorry, except for gas and oil but no, in fact, the war in ukraine only accelerated and significantly accelerated the processes that were already taking place in the energy sector and how big this acceleration is well, we will see somewhere in a few years and eh hmm well what will we see and someone in russia will not have time to finish the conversation thank you genna dyryavtsev expert on energy issues was in touch with us we have a very short pause and a beautiful pause we remind you before the pause that if you want to support the espresso tv channel, you can sign the petition to return us to the air of digital broadcasting t2, we remind you that we have everything that was not returned and we were not told, we were not given legal arguments, first of all why we were disconnected from

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and trends worldwide. of course, we cannot ignore the general the situation on the geopolitical, our common such a bridgehead, contact us yuriy poita, head of the section of the asia-pacific region, new geopolitics everywhere network, i congratulate you, mr. yuriy, glory to ukraine personally, i really lack some good expert comments about the role of china in particular in the history of russian-ukrainian relations in the last two and a half months, we have seen extremely carefully the position of uh traditionally where why for china in particular but uh now i see in our optimism appears in the ukrainian domestic information field, and i do not know how justified and cautious it is. well, for example, the spokesman of the president's office, oleksiy arestovych, noted that

china made its choice, silpin supported ukraine a-a something like the fact that russia is becoming an inconvenient friend for china is written in the form of policies, in particular , after all. now, if you were to outline the position of the people's republic of china and its leaders in relation to the russia-ukraine conflict, very briefly, the position of china at the moment that does not change, there are some, some, we see some measures of action in the information space at the diplomatic level in order to change china's position a little, not to make it more pro-ukrainian, but to make it the one that actually complies with the norms of international law, which china does not get tired of declaring regarding what the current position of china is, most specialists characterize it as pro-russian neutrality on the one hand, china allegedly supports the territorial integrity, integrity

, independence, sovereignty of ukraine, but it constantly votes we all see against ukrainian resolutions in 2014 in the un security council, i will remind you that ukraine submits two resolutions on crimea every year on the militarization of crimea and human rights violations in crimea, and china constantly voted against of these resolutions, china has systematically supported and is developing strategic partnership relations with the russian federation. at the moment, they are quite deep, and we see that both sides are talking about the so-called new limit partner, unlimited partnership. - we can see very well, but in the discussion china continues to develop, well, repeat about the russian federation, and we see that economic relations also have a tendency to deepen, in addition to this, china is promoting quite a bit not unfavorable for ukraine theses in the information space he says that he never blames the russian federation for the war against

ukraine, he says that the west is to blame for everything, the united states of america is to blame for this, that there is no need to apply sanctions against the russian federation because it destroys logistical trade relations, economic ties, etc., about the fact that there is no need to transfer weapons to ukraine, this allegedly does not contribute to the resolution of the conflict, but only adds fuel to the fire, and so on, in addition to this, china continues spread disinformation in relation to ukraine, for example, in relation to the so-called 20 biolaboratories in which the united states of america allegedly developed biological weapons and even uh, even covid-19 and so on, that is why pro-russian neutrality is still maintained, we observe that uh, some countries are trying to change this pro-russian neutrality to more pro-ukrainian pro-ukrainian positions. the ukrainian side is also trying to do this recently. dmytro kuleba , minister of foreign affairs of ukraine, gave an interview

a detailed interview with the state agency simku and we can express his position and called on china to join after all. well, if china positions itself as a global player, he called on china to join the criticism of the russian federation, the pressure on the russian federation and the guarantors of security at the moment as for whether there will be any positive changes, so far i still say you are optimistic, i think that it is not the case that i am a cautious optimist, so far i do not see any positive changes even with the specialists i work with talked about the study of china, including at the international level, they say that it is very unlikely that china will change its position , but the task that has already been achieved at the moment and needs to be fixed is that china should not transfer e- weapons to the russian federation and the latest technologies, and we see that so far this is not the case and china should not help the russian federation to circumvent the sanction, including in

relation to and at the moment we also observe that china is very cautious about such cooperation with russia, which could endanger his cooperation with the countries of the west . from 2005 to 2007, he recently made such an extremely critical assessment of the russian invasion of ukraine, calling the final defeat of russia only a matter of time, and this was published by phoenix media. however, the material was later removed, and in addition to gaudy revisionist statements, yang suetong, dean of the institute of international relations at xinhua university

, made, according to him, russian aggression only harms china, because it slows down the process of globalization and russia loses all its international weight. in your opinion, does this indicate that in china certain such in the highest circles of the chinese government there is an internal debate on the issue of the russian war in ukraine with such critical positions in relation to russia, this is actually the first time that you got into information space and it is actually quite interesting because he outlined several such key areas - key directions of key positions regarding why the russian federation is losing, and it still shows that in expert circles of such a high level and in political circles there is a discussion and this discussion is intensifying in public , chinese officials, including

the ministry of foreign affairs, including the top management, including the highest, shall we say, on more serious expert circles so far they are wary of saying similar and similar statements and so on, but nevertheless, such and such and such theses that were mentioned, including the speech of another specialist in chinese, this indicates that the discourse in the chinese political leadership is intensifying in what way is the diet of china because in fact so the actions of the russian federation caused colossal damage, including to the people's republic of china, including economic image positions and so on, because even such pro-russian neutrality about i will note that it is perceived by many countries of the world and we observe it in and in the ukrainian expert discourse as not the maximum support for russian actions, if it is informal support for russian actions, it means that china also bears part of the responsibility for those war crimes committed by the russian federation on the territory

of ukraine and so further for china this is a very serious challenge both diplomatically and economically and from the point of view of obtaining technology in relation to the development of its economy and so on and the preservation of that reason i think that to the extent that the positions of the russian federation will deteriorate, including diplomatically, internationally, in the international sphere, including on the military battlefield, such discourse will intensify in chinese leading circles, and i hope that this will lead to may lead to a reassessment by the chinese leadership of its approaches to, including the development of relations with the russian federation, mr. yuryu, in your opinion, we are now communicating with china in general, well, that is, i am looking at what lavrov is giving comments on chinese tv channels, which are all state-owned and i understand what kind of approach in a communist country can be to let's say

censorship and so on. but nevertheless, i still do not see us coming out with any positions on trying to communicate with china, in particular to convey our the vision of what is happening is the only real one because russia is saying untrue things, totally lying about what it is doing in ukraine, but we can see that there it is still in the lead in its mm in its rhetoric, how can we improve these positions who in your opinion, it should deal with this. but i think that this is a rather serious and complex issue for a teacher for ukraine, ukrainian diplomacy, and so on, because , after all, you absolutely correctly noted that the chinese media environment is very strongly pro-russian. let's put it this way, china relays the majority of pro-russian narratives regarding the russian-ukrainian war and so on. and so far there are no signs that this situation can

change in any way, and all of them can legitimize it in russian aggression in relation to what i said about the twenty bio laboratories from ukraine, in fact, in the chinese discussion, in the media, there is no expert in the political . the east is uh, it is a country devoid of subjectivity - it is a country in which since 2014 there has been a so-called color revolution made by the united states of america and in fact it is a gray zone and a zone of monopoly influence in the russian federation, which russia is legally trying to restore in a supposedly rational way, and so on, so the issue of communication with china is of course dependent on several sides , including the ukrainian side and the chinese side's desire to listen and the

chinese side's desire to form its position . no matter how much the ukrainian side would like it, we see that the main geopolitical task of china at the moment is to become a state. it will take five years in various aspects of china to take the lead. what is the situation in reality and secondly, this is our task, because the usa has a number of allies, a number of partners with which it consistently develops relations, and these relations are of a military-technical, military nature, collective security, and so on. the ukrainian people's republic does not carry out such in its foreign policy, and there are no alliances it has no principles of collective security with other countries, this means that it will not protect anyone, e.g. in the case of armed aggression, but no one will protect china, and so on. this approach has its positive sides and negative sides for china but it is really important for china to have flexible relations with

russia in order not to be left one-on-one with the united states of america, so jesus yes, i'm sorry , there's just not much time left, just about protection from china, we wanted to ask you also the relatives of the defenders of the defenders of mariupol they turned to the leader to the chinese, i urge him to contribute and take part in the extraction procedure so that china also becomes a certain mediator in the rescue of both the military and civilians who were left behind, but first of all, we are talking about the military if we we are talking about the extraction directly. please tell me whether china might be interested in this . i think that all the measures and all the steps that the ukrainian side is taking at the moment to save the azov fighters are absolutely justified, absolutely correct and logical in terms of whether

china will be ready to take them in reality any constructive actions regarding this. at the moment, i think that this is unlikely because china still considers and continues to consider ukraine as a legitimate influence of the russian federation and the actions of the russian federation on the territory of ukraine are in no way reflected on the actions of china, it is meant that china does not do anything to prevent russia from carrying out this war, a military operation, and so on, regarding whether the chinese side will provide any help, assistance or assistance as a mediator and so on. i think that this is unlikely at the moment , because even since 2014, china and all from the ukrainian-russian war, and the probability of that was assessed at a very, very low level and in including, at the moment, it is estimated that china will occupy some kind of mediating or mediating role between ukraine and russia for a number of

reasons, so i think that this is unlikely, but still , i consider it necessary in order to increase thank you thank you very much yurii potak manager section of the pacific ocean region new-geopolitics-resource work with us in touch and now we add to our conversation maksym zhorin excursion of the commander of the azov regiment maksym congratulations glory to ukraine welcome panel glory congratulations to you we have just asked the question of the previous guest, what are the prospects for china to respond to the appeals of the relatives of the mariupol defenders and become a mediator , all these stories, in any case, in my opinion, this is a successful attempt, at least an attempt, please tell me if there is any hope for it china, turkey, i don’t know, the lord himself will respond, i don’t know, and it will still be possible to extract our defenders from azovstal, where the assaults are, excuse me, daily, then the shelling, then the aviation

. use absolutely all the possibilities that only we have. even if it seems to us that it is unlikely to help. but or it may not work very effectively. we have no right today to look for excuses. we have no right today to simply wait and see. we have to look for tools of leverage absolutely of all the places where it is only perhaps, including definitely referring to china if we talk about my personal m-m opinion, well, definitely taking into account all the circumstances, i weakly believe that in china today there will be a sudden the protection of ukraine or will become acts, although an active participant in principle in any processes between ukraine and russia, but it is necessary to apply and knock on all doors, it is 100% necessary, including china , any other ukraine, it is important so that

these countries in principle, we thought about this process and in order to convey to the world what is actually happening in ukraine today, uh, looking at how they are holding on, looking at how our heroes are fighting. every day, uh, i don't see any possibility of giving up today and simply watch this, if they can find the strength to fight and hold on, then we all have an obligation to fight in the same way, to look for options, to look for tools, to look for levers of influence in order to find that third party or international organization or country that will still be able to become a guarantor in order to save and remove from there the wounded and the military garrison that is now happening on azov steel, in particular, do you have information because, honestly, i am already lost every day, this is an assault attempt, then our girls and girls in in extremely difficult conditions, they even fight back and

counter-attack, which looks just like some kind of fantasy, but less so azovstal, its status now, its status now, the fact is that they really live in such relays. or have read so imagine how uh-uh for those who are now there, they really happen every day, and they really feel dozens of high-powered aircraft bombs every day, they uh-uh dig out civilian soldiers from under the rubble every day there new injuries are appearing, wounded people, and the most terrible thing is that due to the lack of medicines, due to the lack of conditions for providing medical care, it is constantly almost every day, fighters change from the status of wounded to the status of dead simply because there is no way

to provide them with any kind of uh, medical care, the situation is extremely difficult, and it’s true, they do it every day, sometimes it’s really difficult to understand at all, sometimes it’s hard to even imagine how they do it, but they do it, they can really do it, teachers, hospitals, which organized by the defenders, can we say that the enemy is hitting precisely where the wounded and in a serious condition are, the defenders are certainly the same as before, air bombs were dropped on bomb shelters where civilians were deliberately, the russians knew that they that's where the cynical behavior of scumbags who only know how to fight is found. they can't show anything on the real battlefield , because they always either run away or

die, and all they have left is this way cynically, destroy the floors, hospitals, hospitals, kill civilians. this is the only way they know how to fight, mr. maksym. yesterday, the adviser to the mayor of mariupol , petro otpychynkova, remarked that the russian occupiers had launched a ground offensive , a ground operation on azovstal. please tell me how many do we even have an understanding of how many resources our defenders have left because it is no secret that from the very beginning it was an unequal battle absolutely a what can i say when so many days have passed, well, first of all, this is not the first ground-based attempt to attack and advance. after putin's speech, when putin said that he apparently forbids an offensive and an attack called steel , it was another lie that is worth absolutely nothing as in principle any words of putin and

the russians. but this was not the first attempt, they are really constantly trying to storm, including ground forces with tanks and infantry, but they have little, uh, little comes out as far as the resources of uh, our heroes are concerned, of course i am about i can't do that speak because uh, the russians today want to know exactly how many cartridges are left, how many weapons are left, how much food is uh, and everything else, i can say that there is not much time to open a fine to save them, as the president of ukraine, the ukrainian authorities talked about the fact that military path where there is no blockade now, however , recently the representative of zoya ilya samoilenko said in an interview in the us that there are options for the military path where there are blockades, however, he cannot name them for obvious reasons because it is classified are they still there or not, of course they are and

i will tell you more that they are being considered and plans are being prepared for the liberation, the only thing is that i am not sure that we have so much time to wait for a full-scale military ground operation to liberate mariupol, that is why today we have to concentrate in parallel on both options and on the diplomatic rescue of the people who are there and on the preparation of the military for the liberation of mariupol , it is really possible and we must prepare for this today, moreover, partly the ukrainian army this is already being prepared well, in the same way, the relatives of the defenders of mariupol and azov stalin noted at this press conference that even wounded soldiers are fighting there. this is incredible. please tell me the maxim regiment of azov. this is not exactly what putin's sick imagination of some shoigu imagines.

and other of their oppressors, it seems to them that everything has been closed that skeleton in mariupol and they think that they have solved this issue. it seems to me that they will be in for a big surprise when they realize that almost every ukrainian is ready to submit to the lava block of azov, but it is pure to turn into schists, even that for them, of course, but internally we are all actually azovians and all of us are the armed forces of ukraine and all of mine, all of us, we all want to be like our idols-protectors, but less with what the polkas are doing now if don't talk about mariupoli if you don't go into any details of the location where you are most present, well, it's absolutely true that the russians achieved the opposite result and on the very first day of the full-scale offensive on ukraine, almost every city appeared territorial battalions of azov, one of the largest such e-e units was created in kyiv, it

took part in the battles for kyiv in the kyiv region . and after the complete liberation of the kyiv region, our entire unit was transferred to the rear in the zaporizhia region, where it is now we are where we are and now we are performing combat tasks , including today there were heavy battles in several settlements in the zaporozhye direction in the gulyaipol region, our unit is performing combat tasks, at first we had the task of stopping the enemy has dealt with them, and now we are already considering the options of how exactly to advance and press the enemy and move forward, what kind of question is she? maxim appeared. information to be released was leaked on social networks, the contacts of the families of the defenders of azovstal, why are they doing this, what is their goal - to demoralize maybe our fighters to think not only about the execution of combat tasks now, but also about their relatives, listen, we will never understand the russians in our lives, they are scum, which ukrainians will never understand us

they are completely different people, most likely they see something effective in this or something that will help , but i don’t think that it makes sense for ukrainians to look for logic or to look for an explanation in the behavior of these scoundrels maksym thank you for the protection for the work for the endurance maksym zhorin exkur, commander of the azov regiment, was in touch with us and we once again emphasize the critical situation in the city of mariupol, in particular at the azovstal plant, which remains a citadel, that's all that our defenders continue to fight against the invaders, continue to destroy them with all the available methods, not much is available to them , even food and water are becoming those resources that are still out of reach for our defenders. therefore, we need to hurry, we need to shout at all the sites, as now it is necessary to extract our defenders from the isotoria, all citizens of ukraine, because in

fact, when you read certain e-interviews defenders of mariupol defenders defenders of azovstali when they write that their biggest dream is to eat a sandwich just a sandwich with ordinary sausage and drink ryazhenka, then in fact it pushes the soul extremely because fortunately we have such an opportunity. and they - no, they are there, if you saw these pictures without arms , without legs, with open wounds in terrible unsanitary conditions, all we can do with you is to shout to the whole world that they should diplomatically try to save the defenders of mariupol from italy. well, yesterday with a military expert, we were just talking about how it would be good if our armed forces had the opportunity, let's say, to organize a very symmetrical situation for the attackers. the enemy, well, in fact, it is possible to take them some kind of encirclement is possible

a potential cauldron and it is easy to issue an ultimatum , military experts agree that this is how it could work if the russian federation well, at least a little valued the lives of those whom it sends here, you are a waste for your country, each of you and what are you and you will remain like that. if some russian bastard is watching now, we know we will find you all, and it is. well, it is simply inevitable, and why am i so angry, because just now i am watching, you know, subscribed to all the publics, er, in which people who remain in mariupol or volunteers who are still publishing now. imagine that they somehow continue to make their way into mariupol, in particular, just act there inside. they just drop photos. here is a building on such and such a street. and there is a cultural center there. here is something else that is not alive . places on the body of mariupol