although i do not advise to return to the city now, because the enemy is still not on its borders, and he has not yet been completely defeated by us , although we are doing everything before that, because the danger is still in the city, because he can be in front of us at any time . to go on some kind of counteroffensive and it is clear that the cat was advancing, but the shelling of the city can be simple, as we see, the orcs do it out of anger, so a very important moment came information from our snipers who interrogated a russian military officer for russia deliberately destroying high-rise buildings in kharkiv the process shows that the captured occupier was the main target of the russian jet divisions, it was the houses in the city, this is another war crime. so, our snipers took a russian soldier, or rather

, they handed over a captured soldier to our snipers during the liberation of the village of zirkuns in the suburbs of kharkiv. so, the commander of the 25th artillery brigade of the russian armed forces reported that the main target of the russian jet divisions were kharkiv houses, since the enemy specifically fired at civilian objects and the closest to the crickets, the district of kharkov northern saltivka has one of the densest buildings and we talked with refugees from northern saltivka, which actually destroyed this suburb of kharkiv, so what is the situation of crickets and northern saltivka, well, that's exactly where our last victories from liberation were the situation there is calm now, because before that everything was very sad , let's just say that these islands of our world complex of the original savchenko happened there, then

everything was there. thank you, oleg. tell me, please, we we understand that the number of liberated settlements is increasing in kharkiv oblast, as the armed forces of ukraine enter, e-e, in particular, and then volunteers e-e. what are you facing? saw after their retreat voiced irpeny gostomel and the kyiv suburbs in general well, as far as i know, what happened here was more or less the same, but there was also a robbery. they thought that there was some kind of loyalty from the local population , but anyway here they simply did not have time to do

it because we very quickly after the contrast, what needs remain for the local population . are you a volunteer community, in particular in kharkiv oblast, with such needs, or perhaps you need reinforcements , in particular, from other ukrainian regions, you know, i am very glad that from the first days of all the aggression of the new continuation, all the cities of ukraine are very local councils and local administrations of various regions are helping kharkiv, e.e. people just personally hand over to the kharkiv city council, everything is working in the city. i think that we, the

volunteers, are also doing everything possible, we may not be able to help everyone because it is very difficult to monitor the situation for every person, but we work and the maximum number of people are fed and treated as well as psychological help, we do everything thanks to the experience of eight years of volunteering thank you thank you mr. olezh oleha bramychev deputy of the kharkiv city council worked live on the espresso tv channel at 3:34 p.m. on may 16, concluding the topic of kharkiv oblast. we will remind you once again that it was there that the russian invaders blew up three road bridges. this was reported by the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine in the area of ​​populated areas. they carried out this detonation in order to obviously stop the counteroffensive of the armed forces of ukraine. well, in addition, to reduce the logistical capabilities of

this region in general, when people will need to get and deliver, let's say, humanitarian help, and we see that they do not disdain absolutely any methods from the other side. as i understand it, if there are breakdowns of road bridges, then they, again, are unlikely to be counter-attacked if there are suitable circumstances in belogorivka, this is evidence that the russian military did not study the topography very well, they they drew different arrows on the maps, but they rested on the shore, which they could not overcome, and here our artillery set up combat positions very well, important information did not arrive from odesa, missile attack on odesa the number of victims has increased, the rescuers are eliminating the consequences of the missile attack, but the number of wounded has increased to 4 due to the impact of

the cruise missile, the weapons of the recreation center buildings and the fire have started, we will definitely uh-uh detail the situation in the odesa region well, for now, contact us tetyana kozachenko public activist, lawyer, director of the department for illustration of the ministry of justice, we welcome you, ms. tetyana. good afternoon. i want to clarify, i was the director of the department in 14-16 years, then the prefix -ek will be more topical yes, ms. tatyana, the mechanisms of bringing russia to justice, war crimes in our country, we understand that little by little the volumes and their number are increasing, we would like to hope that the law enforcement agencies in our country, and with the involvement of partner capacities, are working qualitatively and here antin literally just now noticed information from kharkiv from kharkiv where in the circus, in the circuses, a russian soldier was taken prisoner, and

he remarked that the artillery was firing on the kharkiv high-rise buildings there deliberately, absolutely deliberately made anti-aircraft missile strikes on city buildings, the process is testified by a captured russian officer. please tell me how now, in particular, with the collection of this mass of information, what are the most high- quality and most fruitful ? - which crime is not proven by a single piece of evidence. and according to the totality of the evidence, testimony is one of the options for evidence, but an expert examination is carried out, information is collected, video recording of witness testimony, i.e. a lot of different documents and records of war crimes that are important, they are investigated as e-e on the territory of ukraine, and a lot of information on this matter is made public by the office of the prosecutor general, the

body of the pre-trial investigation is the security service of ukraine, a lot of platforms and sites have been created where people can apply, provide photos, video recordings, provide testify, add materials, write statements about those crimes that were committed against them, where they are victims, lost their relatives where theirs was damaged or destroyed property, this issue is also on the territory of ukraine. the international tribunal court may be additionally created in the future, but information has now arrived that on the territory of ukraine,

investigators and experts from the international criminal court should arrive, several dozen people who must inspect the materials on the spot in ukraine, communicate, carry out relevant work so that in the future the international criminal court in the hague can complete the investigation and bring the culprits to justice, in particular. russian prisoners of war, i.e. russian servicemen captured by our military, because i have never encountered such a thing, i.e. there is only one piece of information that iryna vereshchuk or someone else there successfully conducted an exchange. yes, but very often. we do not even imagine who can get from our side. we are talking about russians who are in our captivity, so an exchange for our soldiers would not be desirable, we understand what it is. no,

arithmetic is a very delicate story, but in any case, we understand that there are prisoners of war in the ordinary, some average soldiers who carried out criminal orders, teachings or crimes, and there are also officers who gave orders, and here is the question so that history does not repeat itself, for example, when a very important witness for the same hague tribunal or a person who is directly responsible for a number of crimes against our civilian population can go to exchange. look, this is when there are no ideal solutions . the right thing to do here is not so much legal as political norms, it is impossible to assess the weight of the evidence in advance, but today we can definitely talk about the fact that the life of every citizen of ukraine

servicemen of every prisoner, it is priceless if it is possible to save a person, everything else may not be of such importance, these are political decisions. a lot of information will not be disclosed because there are no rules, if at the moment we already have a war with us, they bargained with us, they kill, they violate international norms, they violate international conventions, they commit war crimes, we expect that they will meet some human rules of reasonableness or decency, and we cannot save lives, political activity on the occasion is the activities of the authorities and additional platforms involving the public, military experts, which currently do not always exist, legal mechanisms in that part are important. well, someone has seen the lists. well, it’s just very interesting, we don’t

know very often who is given so that they don’t come out, i don’t know one or the other unpleasant case, but as they say, we will live and see, there are no less important stories, in particular, it is about the implementation of the law on collaborationism, and i would very much like people who are responsible for committing crimes against ukrainian states who are citizens of ukraine were involved, but we understand that the devil, as always, hides in the details ms. tetyana, at one time you worked extremely fruitfully in the lustration field. well, it is just possible that i would share my experience if the current system were to be improved in such a way that those who collaborate with the enemy find themselves well or at least were deprived of certain social opportunities, criminal liability in this area, the parliament works systematically enough and the government makes decisions

, now it is being recorded, evidence is being collected, people are recording and confirm this information, i consider it quite appropriate that in the future the use of lustration tools, unfortunately, this is not a responsibility, this is removal from office, it must be implemented at the moment there are bills e-e in the parliament, in particular, the law on amendments to the law on purification of power regarding the prohibition of being president and deputies or officials of those persons who, informally and by their very nature are the fifth column, pose a risk to national security in such times. the country has the right to defend itself and such regulatory acts are being developed, adopted and are in effect, we already see the reflection of increased responsibility in the criminal code of ms. tatyana, and many of you would at least superficially understand and understand the number of war crimes committed by the russian military

on the territory of our state and their content if so , what impressed you the most is to understand that every criminal case is a case that is investigated by the pre-trial investigation body, which is the secret of the court the secret of the pre-trial investigation nobody does not have the right, except for the participants in this case, to access information within the limits defined by the law, because all the evidence or information that is collected constitutes a secret to be disclosed in advance so that the assessment of experts and everything else is biased and objective, that is, lawyers or other participants only have access to specific cases, the interests of the persons they represent under the conditions if the investigator discloses such information and we disclose therefore, this issue is exclusively within the competence

of the security service of ukraine, the office of the general the prosecutor, they collect information, they now have statistics, they publish this information all the time, they simply comment a lot, give broadcasts. i think that this is more of a legal issue for state institutions, but we, as lawyers, how to warn, as human rights defenders, we promptly provide advice to people on how to act in certain actions how to record crimes, what needs to be done so that at the moment when it becomes possible they can protect their interests and rights or have the right to compensation for damage to the destruction of property, i thank you for this i will feel the answer because, er, there are already little by little questions like these, in particular from citizens. now, from a legal point of view, you have very correctly highlighted what we may not hear

. we understand that after the departure of the interventionists from the kyiv region , a lot was revealed and it was a very empathetically filled story. and this is what the eyes of every ukrainian and the entire civilized world really saw, but in the future we need to prepare for the fact that if we rely on the right to jurisprudence we want to put all these cases in order really to some unconscious state, then it is necessary to keep the rule really secret until the judicial investigation, many people ask the question why we do not hear why they do not tell us and when the information appears, nevertheless, the answer has just been given, thank you for this inclusion, tetyana kozachenko, public figure, lawyer, ex-director of the ministry of justice's illustration department, was in touch with us on the prevention

of war crimes on the territory of our country, and now we are in touch with the founder of the center of strategic communications and information security, advisor to the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine on countering disinformation, love tsybulska, we welcome you, my love, good day. yes, glory to ukraine to the fresh russian fake, yes. and after that, to pass them off as, so to speak , azov fighters and the rest of the units defending mariupol, so fresh information arrived. what are the russians like? they are preparing, but for what purpose, what can they achieve in this way, no one in ukraine will believe the level of combat capability of our units, which are in a state of disrepair, despite the tragedy

of their situation . of their own audience , it is very important for them to have support for the war because they are already conducting covert mobilization and they need to have a flow of people who would like to participate in this war for this here is this information the internal machine is deployed er absolutely to 100%. and here are such fakes, they are not primarily intended to convince the domestic audience, but also the audience in the occupied territories, a very, very high- quality answer, on the other hand, we understand that russia is also trying to promote its narratives in the west. i don't know. well, we did not analyze these stories with christina in particular to what extent do they believe the russian

lies that they spread in the west, so for a while they achieved some success using the credulity of our common people, so to speak western citizens, that is, somewhere, i don't know in holland, belgium, what is the situation now. if you compare, for example, with 14-15 years, the situation is radically different. russia has proven by its actions that it cannot be trusted in the west, if we are talking about the eu, the united states, well in general, we, these countries of the western world, of course, the level of trust in russia has decreased very much, but russia is extremely active in the countries of the so-called global south, as well as in asia, and we must admit that russia lacks our resources to counter disinformation there and there are a lot of people who unfortunately trust russian propaganda, this is meant in china and india

because we see how these countries are trying in every way to support russia, one of them, for example, is trying to buy stolen grain, but well, in the second one, the communist party is completely ruling, we understand how they are very clearly work with one or another information resources, yes, absolutely, in these countries they work very powerfully, and the russian word is extremely low, and everything that comes from their state media, everything that comes from their officials, this is all mostly untrue. how should we act correctly in this situation in order to reach, i don't know, the heart of this or that chinese or indian? we understand that the governments of their countries will put up certain blocks. we definitely need to work with these countries, but we must admit that we are now er, we throw all our efforts

at those audiences, those countries from er or whose support our combat capability depends on, and right now our main task is to convince the western countries to er stop doing business with russia stopped financing this war, because unfortunately not everyone in europe in the european union understands that every euro is paid to russia and where the murder of ukrainian citizens, ukrainian civilians, ukrainian children , women, the destruction of our cities is we are talking about working with the west, i would say that it is necessary to emphasize these basic things, that we need weapons because we are also fighting for your security and for the preservation of democracy in your countries and that you finance

the murders of our citizens when you continue doing business with russia, mrs. love, in your opinion, who is still leading in this race in the information war , ukraine or the russian federation, i would say that ukraine is also winning in the information war. i have also been saying this for many years in fact , this is the thesis that russia is winning, which we have been hearing since 2014. it is extremely misleading and it is actually extremely demoralizing because, uh, uh, well, if we follow carefully since 2014 , we see that russia has failed globally shake our positions in the information field, no one will support the annexation of crimea, so from our allies from our partners, let's say, not

ukraine in the context of its struggle in the information field, and this is more the merit of the fact that the civilized world still relies on international law relies on when such adventures happen, but these are very complex things. that is, we cannot separate the essential information field from everything else, from , for example, diplomacy. because our diplomats are also fighting on the information front. that is, this so complex complex complex and the struggle i just told you about the fact that it is very important for us to shake russia from the inside e-e yes, we are winning in the information field e-e global world , but in order to win we need internal unrest to start in russia because even if er, we will defeat them on the battlefield, what is happening , er, russia in the state in which it is now will be a

danger for us and for the whole world for many more years, we need to make this whole society go through a certain reflection and recognize its the guilt came because of remorse and this is the same information front as well as the information front , including for us i would only like to add that our position was actually increased by the exclusion and expulsion of russian mouthpieces from all countries that are even more or less themselves respect at least from such a superficial let's say this space, it is clear that those who want to find a tolay, they will find it in any case, because we live in a world where access to information can be found, but less so. us as employees of the espresso tv channel and our colleagues from several other tv channels. and how would you assess the position of espresso in particular in the information war, and whether in your opinion we somehow did not contribute to the decision

of the rrt concern in the general concert of national interests to protect them. yes, there are state concerns that took it upon themselves and decided despite the decision of the national security council, which we read in great detail, studied, and watched lawyers of different plans. well, the state consad took you, you cut the cable, in fact, in plain language, of three tv channels, direct fifth tv channel espresso so somehow it happened, we understand that these tv channels well, you can throw something there and so on, but they were not anti-ukrainian tv channels, and on the other hand, we see a whole gender of people who served medvedchuk and not only medvedchuk introduced russian narratives, not at all they didn’t freeze to do it and they work attention to what at the joint informational marathon ot some kind of ot strange story about

comment opportunities i would say two things first everyone who worked for medvedchuk in everyone who supported russian narratives in ukraine should be in my opinion, uh, in suneni from broadcasts and information, uh, possibilities, uh, matovsky access to ukrainians, yes, from the information field, it is extremely important, because i call them collaborators , for myself, a long, long time ago i decided that i will not make comments on medvedchuk's channels, that this is extremely. well, this is actually the use of me as an expert by russian instruments of influence in ukraine. this is the first and second - i would also talk about the fact that it is extremely dangerous now. engage in these quarrels and clashes within the pro-ukrainian forces. this is extremely damaging. this

shows that i have the only ones. now of course it is important for us to preserve unity, the unity of society, the unity of the army, the unity of the political forces that cheer for ukraine, because russia uses every opportunity to shake us from the inside, each of our a mistake, every one of our vulnerabilities is used by our enemy. therefore, now all ukrainians must unite. i don't really like it anymore when they talk about ukrainians. that is, they are patriotic societies, they are ukrainian forces against the enemy against russian agents of influence , including in ukraine, and we are not against uniting actually, but before that uniting, they didn't really call for it at first. they didn't call at all, to be honest. as far as i understand what you meant to rally and unite, i.e. with the medvedchuk ists. let them and the former ones. we also do not want to unite, we understand. that is, you meant the unity, conditionally speaking, of different ukrainian political environments, and i do not know the political

military leadership. and if we also this support so those who work work for the sake of ukraine and those who strengthen the voice of ukraine internally and externally overtake and not quarrel because it is used including not primarily not including primarily our unite and not quarrel e- after they did that to us, you know. something like that. putin attacks ukraine and waits for her not to oppose me, especially me. personally, it is strange for me not to defend myself and not to defend my position. are waiting for the tv channel espresso made is absolutely incomprehensible from any point of view, neither from a legal point of view, nor from a political point of view, and now everyone is telling us, let's not sow discord. let everything be as it will

be . to the government not to the military-field leadership not to the state in general and this is correct, i can only repeat again that it is extremely important to protect democracy in ukraine and not allow any usurpation of power no matter what, no matter what the war we cannot allow it usurpation of power, including the information one, you said about the right to protection, everyone has the right to protection, and especially those who loudly strengthen ukraine's uh, uh, for ukrainians, this is the maximum i can comment now. well, let's hope that it will be possible, so to speak to make specific decisions, in particular, regarding the management of the state-state concern ort and regarding his very strange decision, because we understand that the relevant mechanisms have been launched, in particular, in our parliament, i would like to clarify whether you believe in any law on journalism

lustration yes, we understand that, well, if it were just private tv channels, but they are now presenting themselves as certain tv channels that are connected to the state's unified language policy, the broadcasting policy of the information issue , do not comment specifically about the laws, in particular, about such a serious thing as journalistic lustration, thank you for these comments. thank you for including love tsybulska, founder of the center for strategic communications and information security, adviser to the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine from countering disinformation and we have it now time for news espresso as far as i understand anna is in america ready to introduce a colleague i congratulate you and ask for a word thank you khrystyna well, a press conference of native defenders of mariupol was held in turkey, i will start with that