and we actually have a countdown of days to weeks at the most. today, unfortunately , only our international partners can help us, who can increase our logistical capacity and, accordingly, the export of fuel, but for the long term. of course, this is a question for of the antimonopoly committee and to the government , that is, the antimonopoly committee must provide equal conditions for businessmen and investors to come and invest in these directions, and the government must remove all unnecessary barriers in order for this market was attractive for private investors well, tell me what please comment we talked about this topic a week ago, but i did not see the continuation of the development of this story this week about the fact that naftogaz, well, the state plans to hand over naftogaz to actually nationalize it seems there 70 with a hook, there are

quite a lot of gas stations all over the country and one of the leaders there in terms of the number of refueling stations that are not working now that belonged to the swiss laying company that belonged there at one time belonged to medvedchuk and then there was an idea, well, a year ago, socar wanted to buy this gloucester, when the medvedchuk problem started, he didn’t buy it, but now they say that the polish orlen, the leader of the polish market of retail trade in petroleum products and the production of oil processing in general, can buy it, and in this way, the poles can somehow bring down this deficit of ours and normalize the situation. what do you think? this is the idea of ​​transfer to naftogaz, although it seems to me to be on his profile. they talked about a healthy country, but of course these gas stations should have been handed over to some body

like arma, which manages temporarily seized property or property that is the object of a crime until the state decides what to do with it the relevant sentences have been passed. unfortunately , today the army is not trusted. we know how ineffective the work of the army was all those years ago. accordingly, we need to look for some bodies that can temporarily manage this property. is naftogaz the best option today, you know? it is probably difficult to think of any other state structure. which would be possible to transfer it under management? the only question is where it will go . it will go to ukrnafta. if it goes to ukrnafta, let's be honest. we will simply give it to kolomoisky. if it goes to naftogaz, then this is a different situation, yes, that is, directly if we talk about the russian company with the eagle, then i think that here it is necessary, of course, first of all to talk with the poles and the eagle themselves. but i think that the first question they

will ask us, they will say and what are the guarantees that your ihor valeriyovych will not do everything to destroy us as a competitor in this market and we saw it in the example of canadian investors in the past and we saw it in many other examples of how kolomoisky can deal with those who come and start competing with him as he sees fit that is, in the market where he occupies a dominant position, the questions he will ask in the polish orlyna . of state prices well, as far as i'm concerned, it's simply impossible. that is, we cannot count on the fact that without the cancellation of state regulation, polish eagles will buy our time at gas stations. the third question they will ask. the history of when you change approaches to

taxation several times a year, the approaches are not consistent and not predictable for business and we are used to planning our expenditure component for years ahead accordingly what are your actions, what are your decisions can reassure us that this will not happen again, the next thing they will ask is what about the rule of law and when you will have a judicial reform when you will have an elected anti-corruption prosecutor what will you have with anti-corruption institutions in general, looking at the fact that we ourselves and we can ask poland a lot of questions about their problems with the rule of law, because they also have disputes with the european union in this part, but when they have problems with the rule of law in their country, this is their question countries that they can decide. and when they make foreign investments, they want a guarantee that tomorrow in the courts their ownership will not be disputed, that if someone does not pay them tomorrow, a violation will be committed against them, they will be able to

protect their rights, they want to be sure that if tomorrow a fireman or a policeman will come to them, or there will be some sanitary station that will demand a bribe from them, they will be able to contact the anti-corruption officer, the response barriers are clear, i will tell you when the anti-corruption officer will be elected the prosecutor has already been elected, the competition ended on december 20 or 21. last year, its results have not been announced yet, but in principle, a person has already been elected , she can already, well, this is a joke, of course, yes, this is irony . of them, the network of gas stations across the country is 172 gas stations, but this is also quite a lot, what brand do you think this story with gluzko and the polish eagle can help in this situation, and why is there no development, this week has already passed, i absolutely support everything 100% everything she said - better it was impossible to simply explain, in fact, the only thing that i just wanted to do was somehow

reduce it to the fact that if you want the market to work, it is necessary to stop the soviet union , you are removing corruption, removing regulation, and guaranteeing companies that they can do it normally for us, that there will be no taxation i won't be able to defend my business if i'm beaten on the hands, and then everything will be fine if you want . cheaper than someone's idiocy and for which we spend billions of hryvnias, please, on oil and gas, then i think now we can discuss with you how huge deficits and huge losses this company is incurring, that's all possible yes yes and we 'll go upstairs now if you want to talk about it that's it, you don't need to invent anything, electric cars, for example, for ukrainians, it's not about electric cars, you really understand, that is, we have objective factors that cause problems, this is the

war - this is the redistribution of our suppliers - this is a problem with warehouses because all of them were bombed and there is a long logistics chain because all of this has to be done in kharkiv and the western border is messed with . when you say that the logistics chain, the logistics chain, there is no gasoline in lviv, about 60 km from the border , pimples here, and that there will be a gasoline chain, the situation of bila tserkva and lviv or ivano-frankivsk is lutsk no different? i think in principle , in general, in principle, i'm talking, but it's not 100% of the constituent problems, so part of the problem is trust in the government. it's still a matter of trust in the executive power. our minister comes out and says the situation will be resolved there in a week, and the first vice president comes out. - the prime minister says that in 10 days, the situation will only get worse in 10 days, that is, he should be responsible in this situation, well, people in

war conditions, well, trust must be 100%, we don't have elections yet. we have our own war and until the end of the war there won't be any elections, well, responsibility. well, it seems to me that this issue, and we talked with the members of parliament, arises. well, yes. maybe we will include it. it's like we don't know when we 'll have questions for the government. we don't have them on fridays. it's a great question. i think that when the war started, they said that it is not possible to criticize the authorities, you can’t sit quietly on everything, and i agree in principle that you can’t divide the country during the war, that’s right. but if you and i want to live in a normal country in europe the country, forgive me, there is no kolomoisky in this country. and if i want kolomoisky to leave the country, that does not make me a traitor to the family. i can directly say that the check should just go away. how to leave the question in the law enforcement agency. is silent if the verkhovna rada is silent if they just

wave their hands. we have huge queues at gas stations , then we probably need to do something, at least he just comes out and says we want kolomoisky to be gone in the country. it seems to me that this does not make us traitors of the motherland well, it turns out that now while the guys are dying, kolomoisky is only getting rich, and his government is giving him the opportunity, and not only kolomoisky. today you wrote about firtash , what is oil and gas? and then it's probably necessary to just finish the question rules yes, let's finish the accident, i 'll ask a question what, however, is a question of trust, i don't know personally, i'm not familiar with the potions of valeriyovich kolomoisky, is he a crook or not a crook let's the law is decided by the bodies, but nevertheless, the question of trust is that i have less trust in the government, for sure if i hear the speech of the minister or the first vice prime minister, who says in a week, wait, everything goes, everything is lucky , then a week passes and the queue only increased for

me, well, i i believe that this is bad for the government, for the country, for the whole of ukraine, in terms of faith, there is less trust among citizens that they get nervous when they say that there will be no gasoline immediately, there will not be. neither in a week nor in two, there are objective questions, be prepared that you will ride a trolleybus and that it was honest and yes tsyatsyanka's promises, which are not fulfilled, definitely do not lead to any kind of social, well, social balance within the country, i am asking you for a word here, the question is not even only about the balance, i would say that when we are in military operations today, we all act as a single team and according to each a citizen also needs to build his life, his plans, how he will overcome any challenges and all this construction, it is built primarily on the basis of the official comments of our officials, but if we now look at how they comment on the issue of ukraine at briefings in the european union or in the white house or in the pentagon, you and i

can always be sure that if they said that it looks like this, then this looks like a stage for us, unfortunately, we have to put it in conclusion, we need to fight it, that it significantly weakens our ability to resist the patient, how to fight, well, today, unfortunately, we only have one tool, which is absolutely correct, other methods of direct democracy, such as elections and so on, do not work, it is only the public , reputational pressure, political pressure, that is, we have talk about the fact that every official who comments on something today is actually at ground zero either on the economic front or on the information front and accordingly he must bear the same responsibility as a soldier who only a soldier who makes a mistake can lose his life an official who makes mistakes the question of his loss of his position and loss of reputation should be raised, and we have to

use the methods you have today to put as much pressure on him as possible, because otherwise it will be us weaken significantly thanks to the father of the state commissioner and the monopoly committee 15-19 years old thank you for participating in the program mark that there was written out about oil and gas some debt that came from where did it come from uah 47 billion from november 1 to march 1 of receivables activity - it's just what is the amount of the name they paid for gas, this is a colossal service of ukraine, they paid for autogas because naftogaz people do not pay their main supplier gas is a firtosh who is an intermediary between naftogaz and people between us and you and naftogaz, there is a sales intermediary, this sale is mainly owned by the vortex, the fact that 75% of the market belongs to him, the anti-monopoly committee , let's talk frankly, lord, this has been happening since the 14th year, as long as we don't talk about it

, the owner, unfortunately, does not live up to this vopros so let's start from scratch here last year the state decided to close the market first they opened it literally for several months i have been conducting several informational provocations of the president and the authorities like, they were scared, look at this, it's growing now, people will start going out, people will start going out, zelensky's rating is falling, everything, everything, and they said, again, we regulate the price, now we put the price in 7 1999, the grandfather with some payments is really the president of ukraine, the same thing happened here, what is happening, gas is expensive, someone must buy it at a high price, and then you and i can sell it cheaply, it turns out that someone must receive

a huge leak. that the naftogaz company is a state-owned company , in other words, it is ours with you, that is, we have received a huge loss, this means that now the state will have to decide whether they will pour money into these pipes, or the company will go bankrupt if the largest oil and gas company in the country goes bankrupt during the war, phew, what do you see now, when they just poured money into it, absolutely, and they want to do it again, and the head of the company with his ego, yury vytrenko, just wants you, i’ll take a look какзать пацаны война, give money and everything to him, you know, how would you just wash money with firtash, he shows a photo of buche and says , well, put it in a position of maximum duplicity, maximum manipulation of yarmak's photo. he has something to do with it."

walk to you you wanted to ask i don't know , it's fine for us to stand in lines let's say yes, the crisis has n't happened yet it hasn't started yet, that is, please decipher your words well, the crisis will start as soon as possible, but the government, uh, well, more precisely, if the government isn't there now, it wo n't be take those measures that need to be taken in in such situations, then a crisis will begin, namely , what has been done now, that is, traders were provided with all the necessary conditions so that they imported the appropriate fuel, they reduced, like this one, they removed it, like this one, they reduced the vat taxes from 27%, stopped any inspections, prohibited checks, quality checks allowed the sale of fuel euro 3 euros 4 e-e

increased the volume of guaranteed walrus in accordance with the same methodology for determining recommended prices - min-economies e-e eased e-e all bureaucratic procedures at the border agreed on the importation of fuel here on gas trucks with european license plates and the rapid transition of gas trucks with ukrainian license plates on the territory of the same poland and fuel. and where is the fuel? so that everyone was naive with fuel and went to work in their car, but if there is nothing to control, if there is nothing to oblige nobody

to do anything, then nobody will do anything and there will be. well, the first vice-prime minister of the economy of our yuliya sviridenko, she says that the number of gasoline trucks that cross the border every day has increased by almost a third compared to the beginning of may + 30% of gasoline is imported, and because of it, why is it increasing ? the objective price now for fuel. the main thing is that fuel is the first thing that is needed, and the price of honey is the second thing that should be provided, including the government, because it seems to me that he has played a lot with democracy and for some reason thinks that... e traders are such altruists for the sake of patriotic reasons, they will import more and more fuel and sell it here at

gas stations or give it away cheaply, including to the defense forces or agricultural producers. no, they will not do this and as much as possible . will appear, that is, if someone is transporting something, then the government must control all these flows from the border to gas stations , and if the fuel crosses the border somewhere and disappears somewhere, then this means that someone did not take care of something at your price. what can be the price of gasoline, taking into account there are profitable people interested in business, so at what price is it profitable to sell gasoline now, because we have experts here? well, mark savchuk says that those who are currently

selling at this price for uah 40 or how much, it is 43 , in my opinion, they are selling somewhere else with the government they negotiate something there, they sell something , they have a profit, and here they trade at a loss , in fact, their natives are unhappy, they trade at a loss , oh-oh-oh, and poor happiness, and they don’t tell about what kind of network they get in wholesale and which one they hide there. yes, it is bigger than peaceful time » will be or no today, he is in brussels and he, in particular, called on the european countries of the european union to impose further sanctions. yes, he also said that europe currently pays russia more than 600 million euros per day for oil and gas. thus, europe is paying twice from the first time by financing putin's war machine. then financing the restoration of ukraine destroyed by it a-a marko what are your predictions regarding this embargo

and how terrible it is for the russian economy , dmitriy kuleba said very correctly, his quote about что овылкс оны платят россии eh-eh and to finance the military machine and then they pay us to leave the window unfortunately , it's a-a dmitry kuleba only now understood that the request is our ally and that it is necessary to talk to him because literally on february 15, he spoke with natalia moiseenko and how he their name is mossy, yes, about the fact that ukraine is tired of the west, ha ha, how interesting it is now back everything a-a yes and it’s true that europe is now working on sanctions against oil companies unfortunately, against gaza, they a-a won’t be in the near future a-a they if they are after some time, we can expect it to be against oil and in the foreseeable future, let's say germany said that they are ready

to completely abandon oil by the end of the year. it is rejected at the end of the year, ah, in my opinion, germany can, in principle, give up oil, well, in the very foreseeable future, within two months, ah, what can, in principle, be given up for 18 billion billion euros ? we said the same thing to europe what do you think, guys? we will join the european union if you give us compensation of one trillion dollars, lord. it's like, well, hungary was bought by russia and they use it as though the european union is a stupid exiled cossack. unfortunately, who blocks everything . countries, of course, of course , they don’t want to make a bad impression on themselves because rejecting russian production will uh-uh negatively affect their growth. and that’s why they say listen, guys, if we do this, we simply won’t be chosen for the next we don't want elections. you know, there is a dialogue with america and the united states on the one hand, and a general understanding that something needs to be

done against russia, introducing some additional sanctions, restricting their export of oil and gaza, on the other hand, and countries who say well damn well, let's give it another month, even half a year, and so on. that's how this trade is going now, let's translate it. well, that is, uh, we 're looking at a situation like if it would really happen if there would really be sanctions against oil and gas a-a in russia a-a k unfortunately, due to the fact that they will not happen right now and the restriction will most likely be introduced gradually . russia a-a at the end of the year a-a well, this is certainly good, but the trick is that we need more. well, i understand their economy a-a at the end of the year, it will most likely shrink by about 12-15%. the problem is that the ukrainian economy closed center 35 a-a yes

no, it will be tangible, very tangible, but the trick is that you know how it is a saying while the fat one dries up, the thin one dies, but the real question is who will drown faster, us or them, and we need to think about it now, and in principle, that the sanctions that are introduced against russia, they will eventually defeat russia in the end, their economy will suffer unreal, but it will happen in some time, not in a month, not in a month, not even in an hour, it will happen in the long term. and it is very important for us to hold on afloat now, that's why when we talk about sanctions against oil and gaza, all we can do is persuade our western partners to introduce them as soon as possible and as hard as possible, but for this we must show that we are ready to work and play by the rules. how do we feel about the reforms of the imf, where is our prosecutor sap? and i said he was elected on december 21. last year, because

they tell us, guys, listen, we are ready in principle. well, show us that you are also ready to play by the rules. and we just show it again photos, we are talking. well, i agree, thank you, but i wanted to ask orbán about hungary. it seems that yesterday or the day before yesterday it was so sensational. they first indicated that they needed 750 million euros, and then this amount increased to 16-18 billion euros in order for them to agree. on the oil embargo. how do you assess it? well, i really read that this mall-group is their largest producer of petroleum products. they extract and produce petroleum products there. they account for about 20% of the total gdp of the whole of hungary. well, for her there for hungary. it is probably the fundamental work of this corporation, although i can't find confirmation. many experts told us on the air that rosneft is a co-owner of this

joint-stock company, which also owns part of the shares of this company. the russians are even directly interested in it. for this enterprise to develop, where is the truth or really? the sums are so huge that the government of hungary calls it. is it an exiled cossack, as mark says to russia, not only in the eu, but also in nato, i would like to remind you that every state implements national its interests as it understands them, if hungary understands its national interests as it understands them, then we must respect these national interests of a member of the european union, if ukraine wants to become a member of the european union, then we must respect the interests of each of the members of this union , including if these interests do not coincide with ours, but in this case, yes, there are some exaggerations here, because it is enough to look

at the news of the same petition in order to make sure that this company is quite capable to give up, if not all russian oil, then most of it, because it has ensured the modernization of its own production and the diversification of its supply portfolio, and has been given the opportunity to extract oil outside the borders of hungary and can do it. and this was repeatedly reported at various conferences earlier than everything hungary just wants to receive once again what is sometimes received by such countries as greece, portugal, and the countries of eastern europe, that is,

those states that do not have a large enough the amount of a-a revenues to compensate for the losses that they will directly and necessarily bear in the event that the next sanctions against the russian federation are introduced, and here we have to understand one thing, you can't force someone to do good if someone doesn't want to do something then he will mention it to us later, and in my opinion, here, after all, it is not necessary to spread accusations and talk about the fact that there is a cossack exiled to hungary , because if ukraine is a member of the european union, then we will need to get consent to join

to the european union, including from hungary. thank you that until that moment hungary from the european union, this is also a debatable issue, briefly, please , we have less than a minute, and your forecasts will or will not be this bank, and how do i see what we need to do a-a i believe that if we want from europe a-a to an operation with us er-e regarding big, really big sacrifices a-a in the plan of emba to organize gaza as well, then we must do our homework and talk about the ukraine of the future ukraine after the war with russia is strongly european ukraine is a country in which there are no oligarchs and kolomoisky, in particular, this is right, we must do the reforms that the imf asks us to do, and in this way a-a naftogaz vmeste svetrenko or

kolomoisky, who saws ukrnafta, and we can’t, we do n’t have a moral right, the cops are coming and talking, listen guys, and you can please a-a this year, 2% of gdp will kill us and you because we have been buying absolutely since the 14th year and we talked about this with you a year ago and marselchuk thank you for coming ihor checherinka my name is anna valevska and then radio svoboda studio in prague is cool thank you congratulations - this is freedom bark my name is my own azure of the day's events we are analyzing in the next hour, we are talking on the pages of radio svoboda on facebook and on youtube, as well as on the air of the espresso tv channel.