hey, we don't have a moral right to come to europe - he says, listen, guys, and you can please , a-and this year, 2% of gdp will kill the council of you and me, because we have been buying since the 14th year, and we are on the air in this studio with you talked about this a year ago and absolutely absolutely further radio svoboda studio in prague is cool thank you, congratulations - this is freedom, my name is vlasta lazur, we will analyze the events of the day in the next hour, we will talk on the pages of radio svoboda on facebook and on youtube, as well as on the air of the espresso tv channel, we will start from mariupol ukrainian military personnel are leaving the azovstal plant , a humanitarian operation to rescue ukrainian defenders has begun there, deputy prime minister iryna vereshchuk said today. well, now the details are

now published by the mariupol city council. the video of the evacuation of wounded ukrainian soldiers for azovstal is probably this video of the russian ministry of defense. it shows men in camouflage. with white bandages, these are usually used by the russian military to search soldiers who are on stretchers and those who carry these stretchers, commenting on the events at azovstal in his address yesterday, volodymyr zelenskyi said that the operation to rescue the defenders has been started, and that it needs delicacy in the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine. they reported that 53 servicemen from azovstal were taken to the hospital in novoazovsk. this is the occupied territory of the donetsk region since 2014. another 211 defenders were reported to the general staff through the humanitarian corridor . evacuated to olenivka, this is also the occupied territory of ukraine, and this is also the territory that is currently not under control or

is temporarily occupied by the enemy for further return to the controlled territory of ukraine , of course, an exchange procedure is required, thanks to the defense carried out by the defenders of mariupol, the transfer of groups by the enemy was prevented. this is about 20,000 personnel, the enemy was not able to transfer them to other regions, and thus the enemy did not succeed. -th term to quickly seize zaporizhzhia hmm what is happening in azovstal let's talk further with us on the connection the wife of one of the soldiers of azov aunty my greetings we will not give your last name to the explainers for the sake of security a-and you you probably read the news, watch the video, learn these statements that the operation to save the ukrainian military has begun. this is how the ukrainian

authorities comment on it. what do you think about it? of course, there were no comments about what would happen . we hope very much. we believe that they will finally return home. the ministry of defense is very much waiting for news because the information flow is very confusing and it is difficult to understand what is happening at the moment. well, you said that the last time you said that the man was on the sixth of may. that is, you do not know whether he he is currently in azovstal, is he already or is it possible that he was also

saved in this way? i don't know. yes, because , er, guys, i wrote to the guys to find out that the relationship with my husband doesn't work . and when actually and when you he was talking to them i considered for myself the following scenario of rescue there , first in the occupied territory of ukraine, and then in the process of exchange to return to ukraine . he never told you about this, i have no idea that there were about 600 wounded people, but again, this was information about our cost, but how would the hostilities be? more precisely, and i am more than sure that

there are much more wounded people. and please tell me if any representatives of the authorities, either central, purely regional, or other institutions that may be related to this process, the general staff, for example, in such a field, as if they did not communicate with you uh, i don't have a physical opportunity, i have one child, and i don't have a physical location in kiev, it's allowed to go to rallies, and so they didn't get in touch, so they didn't inform about what might happen there. the last thing they said my husband, what did he tell you? but there is no food, there is no medicine, but we hold on, we hold on, and we hope for salvation, that we will save something, you

know. even volodymyr zelenskyi admitted to this that he, he, he said that he allowed ukrainian soldiers to leave mariupol for the sake of their salvation, and later during the press conference, the soldiers, whose names were heard, made statements that they were in mariupol on a standstill because, -e execute the order ot vam it is clear that they were there of their own free will, or were they really carrying out an order, or is it possible that at first of their own free will, and then they already carried out the order, and the guys always said that they were there until the last one, and it is clear that the order is the order, as it were - eh, at the time of work, there is already. i have never avoided such information as if, eh, i don't have them . what do you think, how can events

develop further? home to bees, children to their mothers, we are very happy, we hope because of this the unknown is very scary. and we can only wait for them to knock on the door, so that my mother will open our relatives in english. factory thank you very much tetiana well, journalists started to inform about the fact that ukrainians are leaving azov-stalinozem as early as yesterday evening, in particular, the reuters agency reported that about a dozen buses, probably with ukrainians , left the territory of the plant the military, meanwhile, in the russian ministry of defense declare that the ukrainian soldiers who were blocked in the territory of azovstal began to surrender,

there they confirm that there are allegedly 51 soldiers injured, although the ukrainian side says that 53 of them were sent to the hospital of the new azov, but where are the rest in the russian ministry of defense does not specify, let me remind you , the ukrainian side informs that they are volynites in the occupied territory and that there will be an exchange

on the topic of mariupol, we will return as soon as fresh news appears, we will discuss them well and in the meantime, before the event of the previous day, russian troops shelled the settlements of kharkiv and chuguyiv districts of chuguyiv district of kharkiv oblast, two people were killed and 10 were injured, the regional administration reports, but what is happening in already liberated settlements of kharkiv oblast, we are showing further

departure glory to ukraine heroes glory to ukraine when at all we arrived, well, that’s how it’s released, well, it’s possible for the clutch. let’s say so, if it happens, give us such a feeling that it’s possible that there will be an attack here, all the way down the street, in general, under

the foundation turns here, turns there, where you will go there. tell me the same one. i don’t know now, uh, the fruit tree was standing and the projectile knocked it down, buried itself in the ground and didn’t explode, and it’s 2 m from my house. well, i signed how i fired cassette tapes at it, to be honest , that’s it. well, when the door flew straight into me, this is what happened after gathering, everything i think well

, either they will be killed on the road or they will be killed. well, what is the difference? yes, i wanted to. well, it’s scary to watch. in zaporizhzhia, they are strengthening the defense line, the city is entrenching itself around the regional center, the ukrainian military has built a system of defensive structures, they say that the erected fortifications are capable of withstanding 152-caliber shelling, reporting by yevgenia nazarova, when can you

now make sure that thanks to the fact that our servicemen who are currently in mariupol and a worthy repulse give the enemy uh, thanks to them, uh, we were able to make such communications specifically for the defense of zaporizhzhia, the warehouse, they can rest here, uh, here is the equipment for them places where their weapons will be, where their things will be, that's where they will live, the exit may be blocked , then you can go up from here

, one of the elements of the mannerheim line near zaporizhzhia is borrowed, maybe it is from this very russian, finnish, not bad theorists and practitioners of military affairs, the security belt of zaporizhzhia that if the enemy does not have the opportunity to approach zaporizhzhia to those lines from which it will effectively use its means of artillery attack , this will allow to obtain without pension and in the integrity of zaporizhzhia as a whole were made together with military units back in march. these are the lines that the army has been holding and protecting for two months, more than two months, in fact, and

the demarcation line which the occupier reached, it was reached on the fifth or seventh of march, respectively, since that time the troops have been standing and digging in and today the line is not moving, which is very important , but we hope for one thing that sooner or later, we better be early, so that we go forward, our army and liberate the territory, but in order to liberate it, something must be resisted, and this line will also be a support for for the next the next the next we return to the topic of azovstaliy mariupol contact us ihor eidman russian political scientist sociologist ihor hello already after that when er-er the broadcast began i read in the ria novosti newspaper about the fact that the state duma is on wednesday, that is, tomorrow - a meeting is held in order to vote for a resolution, well, perhaps, on the prohibition of the exchange of so- called nazi criminals, and the supreme

court of the russian federation may consider the recognition of the ukrainian azov regiment as a terrorist organization and this is the news, it appeared today, actually after that. when the azov forces started, these processes for the liberation of the ukrainian military, eh , how is this all connected? at least in mariupol, because now the people who came out of the country have stayed behind. they are under control now in the russian country. propaganda already poured so much propagandistic mud on this regiment, and for them, in general, this azov regiment, they made such a propagandist zhukov out of it, and they will try to use their propaganda, this is the delight of the azov fighters, to use as much as possible

something like showing or trials of the 37th and 38th years, they want to arrange i think so and that's why they don't even want to exchange these fighters for their captives because they are needed precisely for the following propaganda for some indicators of false processes rode and i think the supreme court is going like this, the puppets have absolutely no power. they do not show any initiative on their own, they jump on the stage only when i somehow the kremlin pulls on the shoulders, it is obvious that, er, that the fighters of azov and the wounded began to leave azovstal as a result of some agreements we still don't know anything yet, we don't know what kind of agreement it is, who made an agreement with whom, but you admit that now , uh, they will simply go to the kremlin to deceive and say, well, we agreed, and that's all. decide what to do with them well, in principle, it is impossible to negotiate with the people in the kremlin, these are the people, not the agreement, those are the people for whom any agreements are

just screens for deception, because they are. it is not a profitable contract that i will not pay, moreover, it is a deception for them, it is the same thing that is the highest, the bandit region. this is the highest manifestation of some kind of trickery, so in general, we agreed, so maybe forget to give them today, by the way, the deputy of the state duma, slutsky, he even discussed the topic of how to return the death penalty to us, and here in the context , again, of the azov fighters, yes he already has one reason, i think he has returned nothing death bears wrote about this because for this monstrous regime there is no vertical at all - this is

nonsense because any terrorist police regime is based on open violence and without the mortals, execute it by force, that is, it is not complete. well, what do you think, well, what will they do with these soldiers? well, they will simply exchange and get their soldiers back. i think that i cannot definitely predict that they are completely unpredictable, especially i'm talking about the solution , one person in the kremlin is actually putin, and that he is not very healthy, the boss. where will some evidence be falsified, well, in the style of the 37th year, about when these processes of the 37th year were there, there were all kinds of stories there about how trances with casino tricks poisoned children with crushed glass or

something - it seems that at the same level they can try to blame the azov fighters. in general, it is necessary to raise this hysteria. well, this is all except for the domestic consumer of russia, and with what, anyway, putin will go to the foreign consumer for negotiations in the end with him in fact, this negotiation has not been conducted for a long time because he is completely inadequate, these are the people we call, like macron, there is a salt, they just ask how he conducts psychotherapy sessions in order to persuade him to take some crazy steps with her. there are nuclear weapons or what in this kind of serious how are these times when they asked him how do you agree? he is not afraid of anything and by and large, he is already completely on a roll, everything is as they say, he is ready

, in my opinion, for any kind of meanness and does not shy away from anyone , so well, the world will not be so easy to look at it for a long time. there will be water and more, but how would it be conditionally, eh, it will still be the same, and they will release the azov soldiers or not, these processes will continue, no one will conditionally exchange the lives of the azov fighters, yes , or some other soldiers for the lifting of the sanctions, but no one will cancel it. no one will change it to a ban on the use of weapons in ukraine. it is clear. and so that the processes will go ahead in any case , that is why i think he thinks that this is seriously unnecessary and that it will not affect him. and therefore he will behave as he thinks it is necessary. есть очередной придумувать какей-то э-э bezumnye какей-то шагы в гости или заверском спасибо большое за комментарий igor edman, a russian political scientist and sociologist, was

on radio liberty, eight people died and 12 were injured as a result of the russian of an air strike on the village of desna - this is chernihiv region, the state emergency service reported today at around five o'clock in the morning, russian air forces fired four rockets at desna, two of them hit a building in the village of desna, located on the border with kyiv region, and it is known that there is a training center of the armed forces nearby in addition to chernihiv oblast of ukraine, early in the morning russian troops hit the city of okhtyrka in sumy oblast with rockets, at least five people were injured, the head of sumy ova dmytro zhivytskyi said, according to him, warehouses caught fire the premises were damaged by the shock wave, the entrance door to the entrance of a two-story building blocked people from the middle of the destruction, private houses were damaged, a church, a kindergarten, you can see the photo on the

screens . and retreated to contact us military expert serhii grabskyi serhii in my greetings to you , on the one hand, we read the message of the general staff that the russian army is retreating in this direction from on the other hand, we can see, especially last night, massive rocket attacks, they are intensifying, uh, sumyshchyna, chernihiv region, lviv region, there was one of the biggest attacks that night was there, what does this tell you? well, you know, uh, first of all, it says that in general, despite such certain failures on the front, the enemy does not abandon the idea of ​​continuing the war against ukraine, and therefore we should expect them in the future of missile attacks that will cover the entire territory of ukraine and the air defense system is working and even in the lviv region today, three or so missiles were shot down, on the other hand, it should be understood that no system bought guarantees one hundred percent one hundred

percent protection, and therefore it is still necessary to go down to the bomb shelter and take cover from possible attacks, as for the tactical retreats of russian troops, they are in separate areas front are taking place. instead, we still have the so-called inertia of the offensive when the enemy is still trying to advance somewhere, and now we are observing active combat operations and shelling in the area from the pasture and all the way to ugledar where the enemy is trying to suppress our defense with artillery fire, well, it is unsuccessfully trying to do this, but such strikes continue , so the situation remains extremely difficult, somewhere we are counterattacking, somewhere the enemy is trying to advance without success, and such an active phase of hostilities, or as they say in our country, a plateau of hostilities , will still be observed e- for a certain period of time. well,

somewhere at least until the end of this week. maybe a little more than 10 rockets could have been fired over lviv today with the aim of intimidating, terrorizing or there is some specific military purpose. well, you know, it cannot be said here that they were released with the aim of purely intimidating, because after all, they were directed against objects of critical and military infrastructure, eh, instead, can they cause critical damage to this object well , there is a big big doubt about this, because, well, they are single attacks, they do not achieve their goal, so the damage is an object that is destroyed. instead, already in the third place of the war, we have already learned to quickly eliminate the consequences of those strikes and to restore the necessary infrastructure, so it can be said that against the civilian population, well, these strikes

really do act, you know, in a certain way of terror, that is, in order to intimidate, weaken, er , exhaust the civilian population, because, you know, it is very difficult to spend time and the soul of hypocrites and listen to those sirens stay up at night and so on, that is, the civilian population suffers first of all, the military and relevant structures of the state are doing well today , mariupol is the top topic in our country, we started with it, what is happening there from your point of view, analyzing here are just dry reports that we currently have, well, you know, it is very difficult, based on those dry reports that are, hmm, to make such a picture. instead, we are now seeing a situation when, by order of our supreme leadership, our troops are handing over their wounded and hope that soon we will see these wounded people on the free

territory of ukraine, the guys of mariupol did everything possible and impossible that they could do, and therefore , for us, the preservation of their lives and health is the highest value and we hope to see them on the other hand, you know, i still remember that in 2014, i am very cautious and distrustful of those statements made by the occupiers regarding the fact that they will be exchanged and so on, because even today we see negotiations in the state duma of russia that they say that let 's recognize the azov division of the nazi organization, we will not change it, that is, there is already the fact that the agreements that were reached will be violated , so we are carefully watching. i hope that the presence of international organizations and hmm respected the representatives of these international organizations will still do their job and the agreements will be

fulfilled, we will see our guys here on our native territory, we are monitoring the situation in mariupol and allow me one more question, but today the garden edition, citing its sources among the western military, reported that the russian president putin personally makes operational and tactical decisions, i quote at the level of a colonel or a brigadier general. well, that's what the publication reports, and if it's really true, what does it tell you, well, you already know uh, in history, we already had such a situation when adolf hitler started to make decisions in the same way. it seems that after, well, after longer periods of time, that is, after the 42nd year, hmm, and what it led to. we know very well. thus, we also see here a situation when this will lead to an unequivocal disaster for the russian army, because you know, engaging in such micromanagement without trusting your military leadership means the lowest

level of trust. because we are actually going back in history to what we have already seen and we know very well how it ended. if we talk about the counteroffensive in the south in the region where the russian military was most powerfully crowned, i mean the kherson part of the zaporizhzhia region, what are the prospects for liberation from your side of these territories , well, first of all, i want to note that they are not so strongly rooted there, and the level of defensive structures in the donbas of russia, well, the enemy occupying structures is much higher than in the south, plus the specifics of the area are not allows you to gain a foothold there, as it was possible to do in donbas itself, and therefore based on that here