they are focused on the fact that we currently have nothing to store. unfortunately, that is, we need to at least fill up our gas stations first, hmm, what are they today ? in general, they are dry today, so we now have a place to store a large tank park, there are gas stations, there is nowhere to drive there is nothing, yes, step by step, step by step, i hope that we will get to the point where it will be possible to save and there would be something to save . let's put it this way, today we just heard a message from the united states of america, giving information that the european union is receiving offers, so to speak, in russian a special duty was imposed on oil, that is, when buying or selling this oil, you need to pay a certain duty, and this duty will be sent to funds for the needs of ukraine's recovery. this information is currently only at the stage

of proposals. two questions, we understand that such processes do not take place all at once, so we have to give up everything because, well, such processes do not do it with this proposal, we understand that it can drag on for a long time, so it is interesting from your forecast how quickly or not even how quickly when there will be no russian oil on the territory of the european union, and secondly, does this mean the introduction of a duty who will pay it because it turns out how do we know how we sell if i sell one cup yes i also want to sell it to ms. nataliya. yes, for example, its cost price is uah 30, and there are some customs duties, so usually all customs duties are paid by the buyer, so it won’t work out, so it ’s this customs duty that is so expensive. well , europeans, for example, and not russians, will pay. how do you see this procedure well, i think that here is a very big role

of ukraine in this situation of talks . diesel, which was shipped via the pipeline, and the russians passed on shipments via the railway line. what happened on the market? well, wholesale prices immediately rose to the level of the wrong duty, so you are in full compliance, in principle, if there is demand on the market we will simply pay for it. of course, the consumers , i do not think that this is the solution that the european union wants to get there, or it is based on the united states. i think

once again i will say a very good example of ukraine. from other countries, well , there was one uh, uh, import uh, with russia, well, according to my calculations, it didn't work, it just affected the price when the question is asked . an indication of how much we we hear that germany is preparing by the end of the year to impose full sanctions on russian oil and russian oil products. they have a final issue with a factory in sweden, which until then belongs to the russian railways. 90% of the clothing factory provides mail and large goods. the time of east germany in the berlin region and there

they have early problems with it. how is it supplied? as far as i can see, as far as requests and questions that come to the trader, logisticians, how does this early work come from, which is prepared and fully sanctioned, as far as i understand that your company junio ​​is also participating now in the supply of fuel to ukraine , and mr. serhiy, before your inclusion, said that now poland itself is experiencing a certain shortage and everything is not so simple not only with the issue of logistics, but in general with the issue of production and sale of fuel in ukraine for our needs, so please tell us your version of what is happening in the fuel market in europe, is there really a deficit there, how have prices changed and, well, could there be such a situation that in ukraine , we simply will not find the share we need for today, yes, of course, poland, yes,

sergey was right in poland, there is a deficit of uh, 70% the needs are covered by two polish plants, which i said, we have 25 imports, if we speak in numbers. we are talking in numbers of 7 million tons of diesel fuel. this is with statistics even after a year, poland didn't sell a single ton to ukraine. the last polish shipment was there, i don't know, 4-5 years ago, eh, gasoline , too. i'll ask for a deal, and the majeikal plant, which was a very important plant that belongs to orlen due to the sanctions of the belarusian closed transit, too, they couldn’t supply ukraine, so the situation is very, very, very good, how to say byvanova, uh , congratulations, do everything, give how to say to

ukraine, uh, for the last 2 months, i can say that you would have a sofa, and it’s a very big job, and logistically, it is a polish logistics operator железная дорога з очень э-э i want to say this and it's not not in support of my colleagues in 3d movement from ukraine, i can say for them bravo simply because they work hard and clearly throughout the whole э i'm the next day already 24 oh, we already got the phones, guys, we can fill up the cars, you can put a tanker, maybe we will put a railway, uh, they are working, there are groups on whatsapp where everyone communicates, it is not a question of competition, who is a competitor, not a competitor, everyone asks about work, but we understand everything as a business work to 24 февраля всегда бизнес занамилась заменатизаем оптиматизация so we didn't have more cars than we needed, we didn't have more wagons than we needed

, we didn't have more logistics capacity in the ports than we needed, because that's all worth extra money, we are today uh, situations happened, situation what is needed is an additional almost 50% of our imports - that's 7 million tons of which we need to import an additional 50%. мы идем на этой объем зайдем i'm thinking about it very soon, i'm asking how to say i apologize for this, probably because everyone is watching. what can poland do? we could do more. we do not take this issue very seriously. i want to confirm to everyone. we take it very seriously. we understand the situation very well. who, as they say, want to fill up, but for us, i know

that it’s a little time. i don’t say in an hour. the port in poland, the railway to the border , transshipment because we have a system of wagons. a day - two trains a day, i say once again, this is a large-scale job, this is an example that i will also return to this friendship . west, the flow of energy resources flowed from east to west . since february 24, we have been traveling the other way around. west,

but how many friendships have we built? i approve but no but for this you need time, well, the extreme point is august, so maybe september will be delayed anyway, and i’m more interested in whether there are already forecasts or there is already an understanding of what the final cost will be exactly for consumer, i really understand that at the stage of negotiations of planning agreements, sometimes such things are kept secret, you can call it confidential information, but still, what should we prepare for, in your opinion, what is the final price of the european one, or at least at the ukrainian level, no , you will have it i am 100% sure. lower european because in europe not everyone knows

very high science very high mds very high excise tax in poland is almost 300 € 100 on which to say diesel fuel and gasoline we have local taxes we have road tax such i understand that there is no such thing in ukraine today, i said one phrase, optimization - optimization and optimization are already underway, it means that if these corridors will be worked out from poland, from romania, with an alternative, there from germany by transit, the optimization of this opportunity will be every day, every week, it will be cheaper today. what we do we close like 3d and eyes we do not look at the price we catch a tanker at any price the scheme worked because we are starting the optimal implementation, there will be pressure on the world market. if

it is not for fuel, they will go up, of course, adequately, they will not go up. the company, i can tell you, it's no secret, they supplied fuel to ukraine, where we couldn't deduct vat and couldn't deduct polish excise tax, so the fuel costs you, but we closed our eyes because we understand. why are we doing it here? yes, simple help optimization will come and i'm sure clients in ukraine will buy cheaper than how to say eh in poland or there in other countries of the european union it's 100% here i'm sure such a situation and what is the price of fuel now in poland today for example in neighboring germany and in general, on average across europe, and has it changed in recent months and how static it is today, well

, if you count one six, one-seven euros in euros, in poland it is close to 1.8 even and euros. to say except for the price of oil, it’s for oil, it’s one second, the marginality of refining is not very important. the factor of marginality of refining in the last three months is a record, it is a record in history, when there were no such refining plants in the world, they are making money, i’m not afraid to say it’s a terrible day, they’ve never made such money it means that to the price of oil it is necessary to add $40 to the marginality of refining. you can go to the site there, there is a refinery there, it is called margin in english, every day, they show what marginality before work is the second, the third factor is the exchange rate of the dollar, the euro, for example, in

poland, or the dollar, the zloty, the dollar, has strengthened enough recently . oil costs $100 now or $110 there. sleep how many years ago was 140 and how was 140 the price of fuel or lower than today at the gas station what is happening we have the same discussion that fuel is very expensive why this is happening well, there are several factors that have an impact on this, namely the marginality of processing, it is a record because there is a shortage of fuel today on the market. запаксы все бегают затопливые but it's just a shame for that, well, i don't see such speculation on the market here, it

's just a normal reaction of the free market and it will always be like that. said about the two oil refineries in poland. i want to remind you all that everyone was probably at the kremenchug refinery and saw this giant machine. i just wanted to ask mr. adam. the modernization of the plant in poland took place 5 years ago, and 10 years ago, the lotus plant went from processing 5 million to 10 million tons and an order of up to 15 million tons . investments were planned like this again, a

very important question until february 24. would talk about uh solar energy how to say or cunningly or some other nobody everyone already thought that this business how to say in 15 years it will end and no one planned it can be said in europe it is even possible to show how much they have now working for water has been closed for the last 10 years in europe . there are no 3-2, 4-5 plants, this is more than 10 plants, and this is of this capacity. i think that at 12:00 today, there will be very

strong pressure on the environment, and there will be an increase in the capacity of the plant in europe. unfortunately, if there is no major change in the policy of the european union. the company as unimod and i make a report every quarter, how to tell investors and if there is such a finance that he is an institute, they always ask us why do you still use that fuel, so to say why don’t you go there to green energy , who cares, this question is so very, very serious but i think that green energy is a bit of a myth and we will talk about it now, but i want to ask serhiy , ah, is it really? only poland deals with how to organize the shipment of fuel to ukraine there, additional additional reception

of some ships, and i wonder if anyone in europe is dealing with this question and the second question at once. the market for them is closed, the russian market is not interesting. well, it is not necessary, they cannot get there, what is happening with the belarusian refineries ? well, it is necessary to understand that the belarusian refineries are er plants that have never worked in a market situation that is, they always existed at the expense of cheap russian oil, that is, in other words, if they, if they bought russian oil at market prices , then they would be unprofitable, that is, they would not be able to provide a profit, respectively. it was there, this mode of breathing

was easier there, and now it is a little harder there, because they have no place to sell their products. according to my data, they work in the mode of the technological minimum, that is, the minimum is there is such a thing as they can't process anything less, but it 's still very big, that is, they are very big, these factories, respectively, they still produce products, now they have filled there with this fuel , that is, they have filled all the storage facilities that they had there , all the tanks there, all all the containers that were there there in belarus, and accordingly they now have only one way, that is to russia, but to russia. this is a minus because fuel prices are lower in russia, because the price of oil is lower for russian factories, respectively. this is a minus , but again, this is a completely artificial story the economy and here everything depends on how mr. putin will help them in this situation. i

had information that during march, april, russia pressed the belarusians and forced them to make such a compromise. what are we giving you a discount oil and you will be competitive there, you will earn something, but you will enter into a war with ukraine, so that is, this was the bargain, well, we see that, thank god, well , it did not happen, maybe it was such gossip, but they are very similar, this is from the insiders of belarus, i heard that before basically they are waiting now some other infusion of russian money there to save its economy. because they sold us not only petroleum products, but also mechanical engineering, food, chemistry, and so on, and any industry in belarus - this is purely a subsidy story, that is, in terms of aid to ukraine, europe gave

poland to us someone is helping, look , that is, he is helping - this is a word that is a bit unbusinesslike, yes. that is, we have no one and this is this native that someone should help us, we are ready to pay money, even adam knows that many countries, uh, they markups are also applied to us there. yes, they are very high , that is, not all are as generous as unimod companies , er, we are ready to buy it and, in principle, the business sells it, but the problem is not even this, but the problem is that we cannot. well, with this transport , it really is we see now that the polish government is already very much engaged in these logistics, we know that the germans are also connecting there, because this is an important direction for us. i see that according to all calculations, we will not do without western european factories for ukraine

we don't have enough, we don't have enough of the polish direction even when it is ready, we don't have enough of romania, it is now the second most powerful supply direction and we will have to look for it in more distant borders, this is fuel, and in particular, it is dutch, belgian factories, the ara region, yes the so-called well-known yes, it is a very large oil hub and this means the transportation of the territory of germany. that is, it is also a very important direction, and there, too, as far as i know, there are already contacts and dialogue regarding the activation of this connection, eh, no, i think that we let's also look forward to a very region - these are the countries of the mediterranean yes. that is, greece, italy , albania, croatia, that is, our traders, they are already looking for fuel there, too, so in principle, we are talking about the fact that, in principle, we see that

they are just our neighbors now. of course in children, especially poland, we see assistance in all directions, in fact, i think that it will be the turn of other countries, it will come one way or another, now i know that our ukrainian companies are preparing to initiate an e-e meeting . by the moldovans in order to also connect the government there governmental influence on their industry, friends, you know what i am interested in, in the conditions when europe is trying to accept these sanctions, yes, everyone understands, but they tell me that there is an oil pipeline friendship, yes, along it tychyna afta tychyna factories, factories, process, supply to gas stations, and when you start to change this system, break it. yes, you need to refurbish additional capacities in the ports to receive them, which create new logistics

chains, and there is a battle nearby. that is, you voluntarily you refuse russian oil. where do you already have everything working, yes, and here is ukraine, which says friends, let’s go, serhiy says there is no help, let ’s work on the business project, we will supply fuel to ukraine in conditions when there is still a certain deficit in poland, and for me question е-е от п adam please tell me whether europe will pull such a global project at all now, reorientation from russian oil to other directions in the conditions of war , will not arise or is not europe afraid that it may have a repeat of the 73rd year of global deficit and then well, i'm sorry, the opposition political forces in europe will have a banquet and celebrate the victory over any current power in europe to say and we told you that it should not have been done like that and uh, and it

will lead to such a powerful political crisis, you can't, i'll add that i get it, we started our broadcast with the fact that europe has been delaying the issuance of the embargo for several weeks. she is thinking about it, and it is still a political decision, but is it purely political? are there problems with alternative oil supply channels? i think that today we think for a long time, eh, we all understand, probably, that one country is blocking the sanction against russian oil and petroleum products, eh, and europe . - of course, this is a serious problem, how can you say it is a challenge for the european union, but i know that politicians are engaged in it, i repeat once again what i said, europe is ready before europe

, so i do not think that there will be any kind of crisis in the world market, it is 100 million barrels of livestock oil er, per day, russia, from this, how to say 10% for those 10%, 10 million, time goes to china, goes to india, they will go further, they will not join the function, of course europe will have some problems, there will be some short, but i understand that and politicians and so to say so people yes if yes i saw in poland how it was in germany there was such a person from the request zadan ready you will pay how to say there 5 and 10% more people agreed i can even hear how we talk there even in germany i heard a lot i communicate closely there with my colleagues from germany, it is not visible, but i want to repeat once again that they are trying to

support and support me. it was 22° in the room in winter, but it will be 20 and it will be 19 if this is the price of peace if this is for freedom well, i think that every reasonable european actually understands this . from their own of the meeting stated that it is necessary to strengthen the military contingent in atlant in the arctic and re- re-equip the military bases in murmansk and he is preparing for a real war for the arctic, you can say it is already underway and there we are talking about the lomonosov ridge and we have a schedule prepared, this is a disputed territory in the arctic ocean,

you can now see that the length of the lomonosov ridge is approximately 1,800 km, the width is from 60 to 200 km. and now russia , canada, and denmark are claiming it at once, and according to some scientists in why is it a problem, there may be somewhere around 13% of the world's oil reserves and up to 30% of natural gas, russia says that the lomonosov ridge is an extension of its territory, canada says that it is its territory, and denmark says that it should be written down what belongs there, what is water in of the arctic ocean - this is our territory, we have a question for you, as for putin's fuel expert, what did he say about the lomonosov ridge, specialists know very well that from the waters of the barians sea, the flight time of american missiles to moscow is 15-16 minutes

we must give the arctic, we must master the set, and he generally spoke about the arctic. and by the way, russia is in the un in the world. yes, how many rockets fly from this point to moscow, and from this one. well, it’s just an old grandfather and he has water. dots above and they submit an application, every country and canada and denmark and russia submit an application to the un and it seems that we have submitted scientific data to you, this is our territory and he then rejects the applications and then says, well , scientists investigate in more detail and prove that this is your territory, the region is really attractive this one the territory, in relation to oil, such oil and gas facilities

that can become, well, so important for any country in the world, especially for russia, which is such a more political story. to have something even more broken, it is possible to say that we understand that everything is the same as what i said that now it can eh green energy will be delayed a little, experts say that on the contrary, and the process will accelerate even more in this situation, eh means gas and oil, it is in demand if we are even looking at poland, the last one was from the couch, the information is the report, the storm of 20 is the 40th year, the demand for petroleum products and oil in poland will increase by almost 70% by 70%. it means, but to fight for uh hydrocarbons that can be there for

petrochemicals, they will definitely need many many years, well the question is why, i think that europe's answer to the world will be ato on electricity, there will be green electricity in this situation. at the expense of chego pemucha yes interesting yes and nothing comes out europe is really switching to uh alternative sources and this story is a joke, well there are some certain logistics routes and in general it’s just putin , but by the way we heard what tesla did now they will stop, well that is, tesla will stop accepting new orders now because they have already received orders by the end of 2023, that is, the demand for electric cars has grown wildly since the beginning of the war, we already have to finish this last question, your forecast for when will the european parliament really be able to reach some kind of negotiations

productive with hungary and so on