you think, uh, look at ten ukrainians, this is in principle an exaggeration, well, in general, they need to pay attention to the calculation methodology, that is, the organization of the united nations. it calculates such indicators in accordance with the general economic standards that are applied there to such , let's say, medium-profile countries, and in in ukraine , a fairly large share was the shadow economy , and a fairly significant share of the self-employment of the population, including support from there, from relatives who work, well, that is, we have osi social ties in such developing countries, such as ukraine, in such countries, the crisis is amortized at the micro level , that is, at the level of such social ties, that is, ukrainians will help each other there and experience these difficult times, well, for of a european country, if you took, for example, modern

germany and plunged it into such a crisis as ukraine is experiencing, then it would be much worse there from the point of view of the destruction of economic processes and from the point of view of the decrease in the standard of living and in such developing countries like ukraine and people have learned to survive on their own and to create parallel economic systems that function in parallel there under the official economy, therefore the economy of self-defense of the shadow economy of ukraine, they should now become such a lifeline for many ukrainians, this is what brought us under during the crisis of 2008, during the pandemic crisis in 14-15 years, and this is what will save us even now, i.e., self-employment, the shadow economy and social relations, but it is interesting the statistics with which the state announced the status of delivery of food products, what can

ukrainians expect next? and why? little by little , but food products are becoming more expensive: carrots at uah 20 and potatoes at uah 80. is this the limit, or will there be other products whose prices will skyrocket? unfortunately, this is not the limit. already there as of april we have seen annual inflation at the level of 15%. this is quite a high indicator, uh, somewhere around one and a half times more than last year, but this is not only the beginning , because now, well, we must understand that now the budget is being filled, and on the one hand, the international financial assistance from the other side from the other side of the direct mission of the national bank, the national bank is now directly buying up military bonds issued by the ministry of finance, and the national bank has already bought uah 70 billion worth of such securities , and besides the national bank, well, no one in particular buys them anymore. part of the population buys, but there a-a resettlement cannot take out the budget deficit on its own, private investors do not

buy, banks mostly do not buy, that is, the national bank actually prints money now and directly through the emission of this budget deficit, this is printed money that will cause a certain time, but we must understand that this is not the most terrible, that is, if we take the situation now and there are two two situations, the first situation is a person who comes to a store and sees that there are prices for goods from the dew , but she still has some money to buy something, and the second situation is a person comes to the store, the prices of the plant are as high as they could rise, but there is no money at all, and the person cannot buy anything. direct mechanisms, then we will get a second situation when people will have nothing at all and the budget will be completely empty. therefore, now the state, in principle, needs to launch the so -called financial circulation economy, and in order for money to circulate in the economic system er, the only way for this now is

social transport. in principle, i have written a lot about this, for example, we take the most vulnerable segments of the population, pensioners who receive less than the average pension, disabled children, er, families with children, low-income families with many children are there with a certain frequency, for example, once every two months, but there or once every three months, we pay them special special assistance at the level of the subsistence minimum. five to six thousand hryvnias or there is some percentage of the minimum, for example, 50-70%. well, this can be discussed in principle. the government pays people this money, but it is uh, well, there it is, 2000. at first, it was six and a half thousand hryvnias, but to those who have changed their residence now, unfortunately, this is not happening at all, because you saw that

with temporarily displaced persons, 6,500 is support for those people who were in the territory of the hostilities, but there is no main thing here, there is no target principle, that is, for example, well, among of temporarily displaced persons, there were people who needed financial help, but the people were those people who came, for example, to lviv there in their own mercedes. they did not need such help, but they still received it there, in fact, for 6 people, 2,500 hryvnias, it was just interesting to go to the restaurant twice, that's why it's very important for you to target the guiding mission of this social money, and they should enter those social groups that will not go there with this money to buy dollars or buy cars they will go to the store and simply buy additional goods and services for themselves, including from small and medium-sized businesses that will sell these goods to them. therefore, we now have a very wide social, well, information base already

accumulated in the pension fund and the ministry of social policy is all these. that is, it is verified, this information base can be chosen , which target groups should be used for which this social money should be launched, and it should be done in order to launch this profession in the form of money into the economy, then the economy will come to life because people will buy services, goods, and my medium -sized business, eh. that is, jobs will be saved. and now we actually see that the economy is drying up from the point of view of phenofinance , we have a population. specifically for food products, we talked to several businessmen before the broadcast, recorded their comments about what is happening in their specialized industry, and now i suggest listening to the inclusion of victor gordiy, co-owner of the uman greenhouse plant, in a nutshell, he simply described what is happening now at his company

, he is engaged in growing tomatoes, tomatoes, cucumbers and tomatoes, and how much do they cost now, how much will they cost in a year or six months, and in general, what is on this market? let's listen to his short introduction, the products we sold there for uah 100-150 last year. now we sell uah 70 each. yes, and we see that there are fewer buyers. that is, we will lower the prices of these types of products in order to sell them. is reached for the following year of course i will draw conclusions that it is not profitable for me to plant a more expensive product because the market has changed, the restaurants are not working yes, there are no people in that area if everything returns yes, then we will start to change again more elite more more expensive goods for some time it was difficult for imports to come here. this is turkey. mainly at this time, but now. well, as far as i can see, she

is already on her way. of course, logistics have become much more expensive, so all these logistical costs are invested in the price and, of course, the price. well, if you compare it with last year, it’s 30-40-50% higher, somewhere. i think that almost all vegetables will be like this because kherson is currently occupied. and just this summer period uh, it's not may and summer, that's the biggest part of the production from kherson, these are already open er open fields were er or film greenhouses and they influenced the supply on the market now er of these products in ukraine well, what is not occupied is not there today we sell the cheapest cucumber for 50 uah and tomato for 60 uah the second

price they say is 20 and 80, he says and what is the difference between them? well, they say that some are ukrainian and the other turkish . real business stories about what uh people try to buy the cheapest possible goods every day, even for those gold tourists, and it is not profitable, and the problem is that the south of ukraine is actually under occupation in our country. they presented data based on information from various publications, they

claim that this year 68% of the same tomatoes will be a failure, you know, in terms of products , you will not check such numbers. you will only then after the fact, you can find out on the shelves of real stores whether it is there or not, but such forecasts are also called. at the beginning of the conversation, you mentioned about the read comment. yes, what is it with us from ukraine, as if zelensky personally takes grain somewhere . let's talk with the ex-minister of agrarian policy olga trofimtseva and what is the state of our agricultural sector? and what is happening in our country ? personally, zelenskyy is exporting grain and wants to starve . this is how to do it in ukraine personally, let's debunk all these myths with you now, well, honestly, i have not even

come across such garbage, such information, he imports grain, we see that the purchased territories are stolen from us by occupiers and aggressors , aggressors - this is true, and i listened to your discussion before the broadcast regarding our southern regions, this applies not only now, by the way, the situation is really quite critical for the kherson region, which is traditionally our such a granary from the point of view of vegetables of the early season, the same asparagus that ukrainians are already used to and tomatoes, by the way, and it’s also very interesting that literally half an hour before our conversation with you, i saw information about the fact that if i'm not mistaken, even the prime minister has already uhmm territory called russia or a terrorist state stated that well, you

know, we bought kherson and now we will have more places and quality and tomato paste, that is, that's the logic the states of the aggressor occupiers are just like that hmm, mr. president zelensky, of course, he will not personally extort any grain, and here, as he wanted , hmm, in general, let’s say, you know. well, profitability is getting more expensive, but we still export grain and oil from there, so on and so forth, we produce much more grain than we need, and we don't eat all that we produce, dear ukrainians, to be honest, it's the same issue. we don't so much sunflower oil is needed for the domestic market, how much of it is produced? and that's why we have to export it to earn currency, to earn foreign currency funds, and with which

to buy what we need on import, it's more correct to give up from the point of view of import and import to ukraine ms. olga, i spoke with agrarians, they say that in europe they underestimate the food crisis that can happen in principle. so our agrarians are forced to go to europe and simply tell european politicians how bread is made. elementary well, they do not understand all these processes, etc. in view of this what can you say about the food crisis, what are the risks that it will be ? what about this and that worries ordinary people, what will be the price of a loaf of bread, and at the price of fuel , which is not clear? what will be the price of a loaf of bread in the fall, and about the food crisis in europe in our question, yes, there is a food crisis in the world, and in addition to the fact that in europe or

the european union we were underestimated, and i really agree with you, it was ah, but that was before the war no matter how unfortunate this example sounds, but i personally can also say that while talking with our european colleagues, this is the feeling and attitude towards ukraine as a producer and exporter of agricultural products. yes, saying oh, we have raw materials, yes, but also ready-made products, it became clear the meaning and importance of ukraine in this sense. and this is the first moment and the second moment. the point of view of the agro-food market in the european union is that. by the way, the issue of our future accession to the european union from the point of view of the economy is at least two. agro and the food sector, we are already there, believe me 100%. we are there. and now what concerns e- as

for our domestic market, predicting now the price of bottles of oil or the availability of bread for the fall is such a thankless task. i'm pregnant, i'll say. it will be read very simply and bypassed and it is now in our time with you this war and the further this war goes and the further the negative influence increases, of course , on the production capacity e and on, for example , the availability of the same fuel at its price e and on the infrastructure and therefore what we see is that they are behaving in an absolutely barbaric way, and this is not the kind of war, you know, which is fought according to the rules of a civilized one, although any war is, of course, barbarism. but nevertheless, e is being destroyed here, infrastructure facilities are being destroyed here, and warehouses with e- is food and so on and so on and that everything

affects, of course, the cost of production of this or that product . kostyantyn tkachenko is the chief editor of the latifundist resource. this is a resource that professionally deals with the agricultural industry. and i suggest you listen to kostyantyn's comment about oil, and how it is formed, and its value today. in this market, let's listen to him, before the war , the prices for sunflower prices were simply colossal there, they are 24,000 uah there, and there it is almost up to a thousand dollars in income, well, all the farmers were waiting, in any case, now the price has essentially halved. well , sunflowers ago a natural question arises among people, so why does the price of oil in retail chains not decrease, and here, er, as they explain to me, there are

also profile market participants, the story here is that if the cost price of bottles of oil there, er, sunflower occupied 80%, now this number is his decreases due to the fact that, on the contrary, you are increasing non -oil factors, again the same logistics, that is, now you can see for yourself the price of fuel, and the price of a pet bottle is also increasing due to the fact that everything in the world is interconnected, it is also tied to the price of oil, and oil, in turn, is also growing , i.e. , total current costs are growing. to military parameters , so i don't think that it will grow much here the question is, if you have already touched on oil, the question here is that before we always exported about 90%

of our oil, but now, uh, we export 50,000 tons per month. maybe there is 50,000 tons. that's the case. there are also many market participants on the other side. and we had quite a few oil extraction factories in the south and east, and some of them are located in the occupied territories, and some are located close to the front line, and since the production itself oil it is quite explosive there because of such a substance as there in particular, hexane and many mezes are on the history of cities, and that is why they suspended work, for example, large producers e. bunnge in dnipro. these are olena’s products. they suspended their work there. and the largest producer in the world, e.e. sunflower oil kernel in the words of its general director, he seems to have said in an interview with icnl that not only there, well, they come out by 10%,

there from their expert capabilities, uh, well, that's why the story, the story is somewhere like this, we asked that here is the answer to those skeptics who write that from ukraine everything is now being exported to ukraine, they are robbing it, on the contrary, we are now unable to export the volumes contracted by our partners there due to the fact that the railway transport on the sea is blocked, trucks, they cannot cope with the volume of exports, and we have a surplus, a surplus of oil, a surplus of grain, but well it's true that prices are rising because of e-e, it's nice, but yesterday the manager of the bank, andrew belli, directly stated that he warned the british about the future increase in prices already in great britain, he directly connected it precisely with the war in ukraine, he states that the reason for this is that we cannot take out of ukraine either oil or wheat, you understand, now only 1

kg of flour is given in one hand and that 's it. is it even possible to do this? in ukraine, for example, we have 1 kg of flour in one hand. here in ukraine, see how the situation develops. you can say conditionally that we do not have enough of the same flour or oil. have already heard this one from konstantin ya i completely disagree with what he said and what the experts have said so far, the situation is really like this in principle, objectively, it is ah, hmmm, let's say so, uh, it's described. that's how it is. we have uh, uh, in ukraine. with physical access to one or another product depending on the region, uh , because if we look in kyiv, we will go to a supermarket, so we see that of course the

assortment there is not the same. decreased so somewhere there is something else because of the fact that, again, those are there well, our kherson producers cannot supply anything to kyiv and so on and so forth, if we are talking about the territory of a, which are located, as was said, and production, but also territories that are located in the war zone, or close to the occupation zone, where it is difficult to deliver products there is simply a problem of physical access to these products, that's why i think that, frankly, i'll say that at the level of the country, we are unlikely to be in danger. this is the situation with the restriction of a-a products there, the release of products on new year's eve hands and by the way if we are talking about germany and that is, knowing the situation there is quite good, i can say that it was more like that in the first stage, for the first time in the first weeks of the war, when there was such a rush and the excitement was very panicky e demand e from the side of consumers who really tried to

buy there e i don’t know e e a large amount of the same flour and the same oil, there were such restrictions, although i will frankly say yes, until today you can see signs in german supermarkets that they are very sunflower oil and also flour they let me have another 1 kg, they write in the quantities that are intended for the consumption of one family, so let's say that they should not buy there, oh no, there weren't any such hamsters of education, yes, and such products, that's why they once again laugh at ukraine and we produce e. even now in those critical conditions and with all the problems that the manufacturers talked about in your ef. so, we produce most of the products that are enough for the domestic market and even for export. others yes in others of components here is this chain in the supply of logistics a-a v e in the first years in this physical access and distribution of these products on the territory of ukraine

depending on the region and let’s have more friends we have a recorded comment by oleksandr badger a-a regarding he is one of the co-owners of kyiv macaroni the factory then tells how macaroni is produced in the conditions of the war and what is their cost and in general well, is the price increase of this product expected to increase, which is also consumed by ukrainians, let's listen all the time, we are practically not idle worked almost all the time, i don't want to name the volumes for which, but the volumes released were no more than before the war. we work with different volumes than before the war. today, the price, uh, the price of pasta has not increased, the price i let out has remained the same as before that two factors, the first fact has become cheaper, the width has not become cheaper so far in ukraine, but it is a little difficult to sell, i think the factor has become a little more expensive, logistics has become more expensive. and this, well, if it had balanced with uh, it would have made it

possible to set the price at the old level, uh, our relationship with the supermarket is a little better in the cities and therefore that they gave less hm, let's say drive pontoons less, do some such things that they could do before, when they could bring from poland or turkey . let's go faster, let's say i think that there will be no famine or any such things in ukraine, so what are you doing - work is normal well, we are not the only ones who work and we know that people work normally, there are enough raw materials well, friends, why was it important for us to put on the air these are the comments of people, because when

an official or some expert speaks, what kind of trust are these words from ordinary people, yes, they are all a brand that you saw. well, i hope that. well, there is no reason for businessmen to tell lies because, well, this is a real section and situations which was now the key thing that was just said by two representatives that the final price is still affected by logistics and what is logistics, i apologize for the traditional example of a cup well, it's not just make me this cup and make me this one you need to put the cup in the car and, for example , take it to the neighboring region to sell it, and here, returning to even the first topic of our program, what is logistics, it is primarily fuel, and so is it . he suspended the decision where well, where exactly

the state regulation of fuel prices is regulated and here, oleksiy , this is actually a professional question for you, that is, we do not really know now, everyone calls different prices of the future, prices per liter yes, but still, what you see this price per liter and, most importantly, how it will affect all our products in the future, because as soon as the price of fuel goes up , all the rest of the goods will naturally follow. if we talk about an economically reasonable price now, it can be no less than е 2 € per liter, and in hryvnia equivalent, that is, we take somewhere at the level of 70 hryvnias per liter, and the share of logistics in the final price of the product is quite high, sometimes it reaches 40%, for example, the cup you showed probably came from china, but we can only imagine which is there the cost of logistics is embedded in this family and therefore of course the increase in the price of fuel in ukraine well, it

will be translated immediately into the prices of almost all goods that are sold eh, mainly these are social goods and services. well, first of all, objectively, it is administrative. the price regulation was removed, that is, the state tried to play the role of such a strong manager of economic processes, but they did not have any mechanisms. institutions in order to make it really simple , for example, the administrative regulation of prices. the antimonopoly committee is not responsible for this. it is necessary to create a special price control commission that existed before, which was liquidated because of this, there is a huge number of people who must check these trade markups purchases and so on, all this cannot work in our conditions now, but the state here can

, let's say, or nationalize, introduce state administrations in this or that field, which they pose a threat to the economy in the conditions of martial law, and to restore order there, or if it is not possible to do this, then it is necessary to find some balanced solutions, because we have , on the one hand, introduced administrative regulation of prices with on the other hand, they left private structures that traded in gasoline, as a result , such a cross between a snake and a hedgehog took place, and they received, one might say, a kilometer of barbed wire in the form of these lines at gas stations, but simply remove administrative regulation this price is not enough, because many people will not be able to buy fuel at this price, that is, it is necessary to create special support mechanisms for low-income families for volunteers, for example, for the same people who go

to pick up their families from kyiv to lviv, but at the same time they lost their jobs and they cannot buy gasoline, that is, now, well, taking into account the level of digitalization that has taken place in our country, i think that introducing special electronic e-e fuel coupons there, tying them to the action of the system of action, well, it is not e-e there needs some extra effort, especially since in the system has almost all the information, there is information that there are temporary transfers of persons, they are registered and information about the fact that a person has lost his job, that is, they manage all these information bases among themselves, and it is easy to provide these e-e vouchers through the system of action and speculate on them as well no one will be able to because they will be attached to a certain certain person and why is this necessary because they will allow this person to kill you if we can still return to food products and here is a very important point they said that there will be no famine, and this confirms, in principle, the presence of the state reserve in the warehouse, you know

that underground in every region there is a huge amount of such basic food products , there is flour of the same type or sugar or some other cereals. but still, here you are skaza p. oleksiy, in addition to the fact that we will not have anything to buy these products for, is it possible that we will be given grocery cards in the winter and that we will receive these products for free for the cards just to have that eating cards will be a wrong decision because cards are the difference when there is a shortage of certain food products as i have already found out there is currently no shortage of food products in ukraine, that is, it is necessary to issue not cards but money so that people buy these products because we have a shortage of money in people, not a shortage of goods, and that is why, as i have already said, it is necessary to help the underprivileged sections of the population the most and to carry out a targeted mission and through