shoot the ground, forget that it's not even there, my dad somehow didn't look the way or something well, he said, yes, that is, there were such cases, well, that is, of course, that after i did not return there, well, literally , that there is a day later, when is there a corridor there it opened, that's all, i just took the whole bag, there were some documents there, and on foot, i just walked away from there , because well, i perfectly understood what was there, and the next day, someone would see me for i-i, and shoot me, yes , well, and you, for sure, you were definitely a candidate we can say if they are number one then definitely with before the black list, which, for sure, existed even so well, that is, well, for me, what does the historian give? yes, there is the sociologist, yes, that is, the journalist, yes, that is, when at the very beginning i saw where is nazification? yes, there is one of the

tasks of this of the so-called military operation, yes , that's me. well, i understood very, very quickly what it was about, yes, it's just about what the nazis did . yes, there according to certain criteria, there, you journalists there, do you speak ukrainian or there because yes, that's all just a candidate of the number one candidate there, on the shooting, yes, well, at that moment, again, it was lucky that no one had internet, that is, not us, not even these russian soldiers, because now when they are doing this filtering, uh, they have internet and of course they are there looking at facebook for everything and as soon as they are there all the social measures of the network yes as soon as they see that a person was there once a year ago or anytime yes that she said something there not that the russian occupiers will like everything yes , that is, again, a candidate for detention for arrest

on the murders well, by the way, even though there are bombings, yes, that is, the street fights there have already stopped in mariupol, but none the less, yes, that is , everyone there, how many now, there are 100,000, 70,000, yes, they are in the same good situation , that is, they have no no rights yes no guarantee of their safety nothing to complete your personal block how did you manage to get out of mariupol in is it true that at the end of march actually ah well on foot on foot i was hoping that uh well people would really drop by there yes well and that’s how it happened yes, that is, there in the evening or something, they went to nikolska through nikolskyi, here along the highway along this new one, which was recently built there. yes , nikolske rozivka, then there is a field of walnuts and this one and zaporizhzhia for 3

hours a little, and with whom, alone or with family, with friends , well, by myself, only by myself to eh then it’s about a 7-hour drive, or is it longer? in fact, it took me three days there, that is, three days before when people stopped. for which i am still very grateful. yes, and there is another well and then, in the morning, everything. you go. you walk. yes, there with this bag. yes, when there is a car, someone is driving there . i found myself in the middle of the ukrainian steppe, yes, only these forest plantations and that's it, and it's already like a little

commandant's family, it has already started. yes, and here i spent the whole night in the forest plantation. they made some kind of hut there, some kind of fire there. yes, i already fell asleep twice there. yes there, that is, well, that is, that was it really such a test of yourself on the cover on the third day, only you realized that you are safe only in childbirth, yes, only in childbirth, it was possible again, uh, people gave a ride and, when already when did they already enter verehiv yes, i already i said to myself, i'm finally home, yes, that is, i'm all safe . well, all the more so when zaporizhzhia had already entered. well, it was such a joy, such a terrible pilgrimage through these temporarily occupied territories captured by the enemy , through the destroyed city, these

apocalyptic pictures, and the streets on which these dead people are lying on the tracks that are being fired at, where at any moment you can be hit and killed. and this is what everyone who survived who got out of mariupol had to go through. a lot of people are leaving. they actually left on foot. when it was possible, now we know that these evacuations they are actually blocked . they are definitely happening under the un video, and thanks to this, it was possible to save the children of civilians from the premises of azov steel, however, and volunteers are rescuing at points, yes. they are trying to take people out, but this is no - there is never a guarantee, yes it's happening very mysteriously and it's possible to save literally several people at a time. andriy would like to talk to you about the latest news. we're seeing the news that the russians are planning to completely demolish azovstal. why do you think that's what you think? they

started talking about this and that, and about that. we will turn the city into a resort. yes , that is, in fact. well, they don’t have uh. well, when they started the siege. yes , they didn’t have mariupol either. no plans at all well in i have the same impression about that. and what was mariupol like? and what will the future be like in mariupol? yes, that's why they're trying to do something there at the ilyich plant. they gathered some workers there, as if under the guise of the fact that work is resuming there, yes, but well, we all understand, yes, about that. well, it's simply impossible eh that this place in itself even after the last ukrainian defender has been taken out or will be taken out of there, it causes panic fear in russians and he dreams in nightmares

because it is a symbol of the resistance of the ukrainian people resistance today or tomorrow but it will end in their defeat and death, and there is also such news, the cousin of the head of chechnya, ramzan kadyrov, adam delimkhanov, dymkhanov, was allegedly the field commander in mariupol, british intelligence reported this and it is noted that actually trying to overcome the ukrainian resistance, russia widely used auxiliary personnel in mariupol , including the deployment of chechen forces, which probably consisted of several thousand fighters scattered between mariupol and luhansk what are your personal thoughts, and maybe you saw something, experienced something, do you know what about the participation of the people of kadirov in the mariupol genocide ah well , first of all, i personally encountered them yes when i went out there at the checkpoint uh, there was one of these for almost an hour of kadirov and chechen er-e these soldiers yes, i was searched and interrogated there for almost

an hour and again all the er-e the same efforts to find out that i am there as a spy or that i am there from the armed forces of ukraine or something like that yes here , again, the only thing that saved me was the old ones there are also historical photos kateryna slava that i had for mariupol photofests, we were preparing it there literally the day before yes, then the war started and everything, yes, that is, this argument when he pulled out of my bag there 1860 there, photos of an old woman from the second year yes, it was him that convinced him yes, yes, that is, they are from the very beginning, yes, they are not soldiers or fighters, yes, they are just policemen, and this is what they led around there. yes , there are marauders, eh. well, now, as far as my acquaintances say, yes, their function is precisely like that a policewoman, yes, that is, there are all these stories

about how they are some kind of fighters or something, it’s just the police, yes, that is, the occupying police, who are trying to pretend, yes, about the fact that they maintain some kind of order, the cultural police are punitive the police with punitive functions are actually no longer isolated reports that they just brazenly occupy houses or apartments there that survived even there, evicting people who live there, and that's all, that is, ok, now we see, andryushchenko said in a telegram that in the ukrainian authorities have indirect confirmation that mariupol, which was almost destroyed by russian shelling, the occupiers plan to hand over completely to the kadyrovites and the forces from the encirclement, and we will remind vashchenko

that this gauleiter was appointed by the occupiers. opinion , why should the kadyrov residents, according to the plan of the occupiers, manage the city? and what is the global plan, yes, if there is one, or is it because, again , mariupol in the future eh seems eh to the russian military and the russian criminal command with such a symbol of resistance, where danger and destruction and death await them behind every space and that is why they do not send their most brutal executioners into the city, well , it is important, yes, because well, from my own experience, yes, the same azov it was for them well, it was just some kind of horror , yes. that is, with whom, during all these roadblocks, there, searches, interrogations, yes. azov it was for them , a nightmare, yes. that is, it is like a symbol of the opera. you are very right, yes, that is, they his yes and accepted yes and they were afraid of it, well, it is

possible to provide these kadirovites with a certain gear yes, but well, i am more than sure that all this will end with the fact that they have the metal that remained from azastal or ilyich, yes, they will simply steal it here they will sneak out somewhere over there to russia yes and they will sell it, that is, there is nothing there er-er there to revive the economy yes that is, the recovery of the economy there under their patronage will not take place yes because well, we perfectly understand yes what is there there, the same kadyrov yes everything he did in chechnya yes it's such a semi-feudal one who knows how to do everything, and that's punishing, and taking away corruption rent. well , that's it, that's all, that's what they're simply not capable of, that's what the regional director of emergency situations of the world health organization is up to -netsian also stated that because of the destroyed water supply system

in mariupol and also because of the uncollected corpses that remain in the city under the rubble, yes, the proximity of hot days and the spread of infectious diseases, in particular cholera , are possible in the city. about the fact that a cholera epidemic is really waiting for the city , that the streets are swampy, sewage water is mixed with drinking water, and actually it is worth preparing for this, that is why the truck is preparing anti-cholera kits and vaccines, the question is whether they will be able to transfer them to mariupol to help the residents of the territory flooded by russians, well, what are you can you say about the humanitarian situation in the city based on what you know? and what do you think about how to save people in the city? according to estimates, there are 100 to 170,000 people left. well, first of all, regarding this threat of infectious epidemics, it very real, yes. that is, there is no doubt

about the fact that, well, at least there is dysentery, yes, or there is cholera, which, again, was there several years ago there, er. the last time, er, when it was detected there in mariupol, yes, and you can just imagine when the whole economy is municipal, it's just in ruins, and there, they did something there, the occupiers recently tried to turn on the water, eh. well, as a result, since the pipes there are all broken, yes, then there are simply eh, whole districts, yes, they turned into lakes yes, and again, these lakes are what is there until now? yes, there are people, well, dead people on the streets. yes, there. although they don’t try to clean them up. yes , and then they guard it . how to save people, well, on the one hand, of course, it's a very good initiative, as if the city hall opened

an office there, i'm in mariupol, there's zaporizhzhia, in vinnytsia for those people who choose to come here, then, that is, here again, we need to continue to try to facilitate the evacuation of civilians from e mariupol, for example, volunteers help powerfully, business helps. yes, we know that in zaporizhzhia, there is simply a huge number of opportunities for initiatives for the people of mariupol, for those who managed to escape from the temporarily occupied berdyansk . in general, where possible, continue the topic to andrii, thank you, in fact, maria and i thank you for sharing your personal story, she is amazing and she is also it gives us a little bit of an understanding of what

the soldiers of azov, the marines, the border guards, who all this time, for more than two months, defended in that siege in azovstal, and what a feat they accomplished. and here is their appeal about what they remembered and continued to support them. he is probably very important. how do you now look at this evacuation operation? what are your thoughts? well , first of all, we are all very grateful, yes. in other words, we are in debt to the azov, to the arpikhas who were there, and the border guards . what time is it it really is an unprecedented field, yes, that is, you can talk about it there recently, uh, we will overcome it, compared it to ferma with saws, yes. well, this is really so, that’s why they really made a very big contribution. yes, to the fact that ukraine really

stands . and we will win, that is, there is simply no doubt about that. well, about the operation itself, i don’t even know, yes, that is, judging by the information that is available, there are only questions, yes. that is , they surrendered to the plan. extraction do not know really me me it is difficult to judge now, i am saying something interesting here, we will believe the data of the ministry of defense of ukrainian intelligence, which says that this is a very complicated procedure, but it is the extraction procedure of the evacuation of our fighters, which is accompanied by the crazy pressure of russian propaganda, as well as some crazy initiatives of the state duma of some russian ignorant politicians, but we will hope that despite this informational noise, we see how our fighters hold themselves with dignity, with what faces they came out, they are just, well, this is a

rock, you understand, and we all lean on this rock and we are waiting for rescue, the integrity of our fighters was guaranteed by the organization of the united nations and the red cross, we understand putin, there are no limits to his crimes , but we hope that, after all, the civilized education of the pressure of a collective event will succeed here together with the ukrainian diplomatic services, that is, the relevant bodies that are working now over this process, it will be possible to simply tear out these warriors of our light from the embrace of evil, and finally, to andrew of our conversation, how do you look at the military path of the mariupol blockade in the nearest sometimes they understand that you are not a military person, but you are probably thinking about it, follow the news and you also have some information from your own sources, in what time frame do you think it can happen, and well, when we talk about saving people, it is about how accurately they succeed now it is to tear out that the

occupiers do not take responsibility in spite of everything, despite their statements that they will build a resort city, but this is kurortna cemeteries, this is simply, hmm , these statements of theirs look pathetic. these are real criminals, these are executioners, these are inhumans. we see that it is purely evacuations to save our people - this is an extremely long, long way , that is, we still have to count on these deliveries of heavy weapons that we will receive from our partners well, really yes, here we can only hope that everything that was promised is there and within the framework of the langley agreement and within the framework of other agreements there. yes, it will really arrive there, of course. that's why everyone is in mariupol. it's probably in the azov region. there, and we know about what the russian occupation forces have there. yes, they have an advantage there because of aviation, yes, that is, mariupol, all these

80 days, he was simply defenseless in front of their bombers and fighters there, and if you ask anyone from the greatest horror of the people of mariupol was those airplanes that bombed, because well, you just don't know what to do, yes, that is, you want to turn into a shack there, and somehow hide, because, er, hm, it's not clear where these bombs are polytech, yes, or there are rockets, yes, and they are so powerful that is simple horror, yes, that's why. well, let's hope. what will happen in the coming months. yes, in the summer, it will begin before the blockade . i will be released. thank you. and you know, andrii has even more optimistic thoughts. some of the experts who

joined us on the air say that it may be a matter of less than a month or about 20 days when we can move on to the military blockade of mariupol, i wanted to believe that that we understand in what simply inhumane conditions the residents of mariupol are in, and they have to worry, including children, and that hotter days are approaching, in fact, the closer they are, the more truth there is in the risks that are being talked about and emphasized today in oz, talking about epidemics, about the fact that the death rate can increase many times, well, now we see that fresh news about the fact that ukrainian defenders have already stood up, brought by the former colony near donetsk, what do we need? well, if we don't we set inflated expectations, all the more well, we are not in the army, they say, then we do not have any disappointments, in particular, we need to say more calmly about this, i also think that we

need not only a cool head, a sober mind, to count on it, but it is best to prepare to the worst, it is necessary to also have a lot of healthy optimism, because this is positive energy, which is also the world somewhere. it moves forward, it seems to me. or the infamous see-saw when we raise something like this and then fall like that and hunker down, this long process is not easy for me, he knows what is important , ivan kompani wrote a teacher, a professor at the university of edinburgh, himself from ukraine, he is there from finance specialists, an economist, he wrote very well what is for ukraine a victory the return of which territory, someone says that we should have it in the urals, the return of the territory, someone says let's return the urals, let 's return the kuban, someone says let's have tanks come to mom, saying to moscow, but the question is that before the war we had the largest country in europe, but

we could not allow ourselves the joy of this territory, we could not make this country successful, so that this country would be for the people, because this is this, this is this question, this is the question of how to change, the victory of ukraine is simply that, the victory of ukraine is not about to grab the territories because that is exactly what russia is doing, they are taking the wounded territories, and what they are taking it for is not clear. i think that we should not review the results of the second world war here, but take back what is ours, as the president of ukraine, volodymyr zelensky, says we don't need it, we need our territories, so the return is definitely together with the crimea and the donetsk and luhansk regions in full . natalia humenyuk and the head of the press center of force defense and protection of the south are in touch with us, congratulations, ladies. nataliya glory to ukraine glory to the heroes, let's start with the operational situation, yes, absolutely and properly. tell me, please, what is the current situation in donetsk region in the end - actually at the moment tetyana

ignatchenko from the donetsk regional military administration, but so far we see that it is quite complicated today is the day and donetsk was not able to contact us now and get in touch, so nataliya humenyuk, the press center of the force defense and protection of the south, is in touch with us, and we are actually asking you for an update as of this hour, we know about the fact that the enemy also shelled odesa. new shellings as of this day and we still remember the rocket attacks on mykolaiv. the enemy is constantly carrying out a rocket attack. one person received shrapnel wounds and a fire in the private residential sector. as of now, we can to inform you of the latest news, please ms. nataliya, yes, indeed, on the line of contact, our units are holding their positions, the enemy has begun to carry out reversible defense constructions, engineering arrangement

of positions, that is, they are already preparing retreat routes in a certain way. feeling that our units do not allow them to move forward, but everything after all, they cover the artillerymen with mortar fire, and our positions and civilians, this is how the case happened the day before when local residents of the kherson region tried to leave the occupied territories for under the control of our units and their paratroopers, the occupiers were hit by hailstorms in order to prevent people from leaving the kherson region, and four people were injured, one person was injured on the way to the hospital, another person was killed, and the fate of four more people is unknown at the moment. that is, we see the actions of this the armies of these occupiers, which

are not even directed against the military, but against us civilians, were also shelled at night. almost at dawn, the mykolaiv shelled missile strike took place in one of the residential areas where about 20 houses were damaged and a fire broke out and there was one injured person, you correctly noted that a missile attack was also carried out in odesa , fortunately the destruction was insignificant and there were no victims, but all this causes considerable psychological pressure on the population and creates constant constant tension due to the constant threat of ms. nataliya well , if we talk about these endless strikes , please help across the dniester liman, we see that yesterday already the fifth strike was inflicted by the russian troops, who are aiming to hit the non-working bridge.

i will say that this is already the sixth time the occupiers have attacked the bridge, according to our calculations, they drink until they see the ruins, it seems to me that you are their ultimate dream at every stage of this full-scale invasion, of course they want to harm the region as much as possible, of course they want to cause maximum destruction, but that's all well, we are ready to give them an appropriate answer, what about ms. nataliya well, if we are still talking about, er, mykolaiv, er, let's give a little more detail about what is happening now, er, in the city, in the vicinity, what are the latest news, yes we know that on the morning of may 18, after an enemy rocket attack, destruction and fire broke out in a private residential sector in the ingul district of the

city of mykolaiv. firemen were working as rescuers. what is the situation with these rocket attacks and what is the humanitarian situation in the city, especially with water supply? please tell us about the latest news. we shed more light on the military component , the humanitarian component is still the prerogative of the military administration, but currently the water supply in mykolaiv is at that stage that basic needs are provided as much as possible, yes, water is still technical, but still the work is being done and we hope that in the near future everything will be arranged as it should be, well, this is very important because the soldiers also need water, but they join us regularly and talk about what they care about they are the ukrainian government and they also have something to drink right now. and we actually know what the efforts of volunteers to deliver drinking water to

mykolaiv look like. this is a process that the whole country is watching. well, as for the military component, the director of new geopolitics research network mykhailo herself is here in told our broadcast today that the aggressor country is not abandoning its plans to surround odesa by involving troops in transnistria, a naval landing from the snake island and interrupting the defense of the armed forces of ukraine near mykolaiv well, what are the chances of the enemy here? and attempts to break through, well, attempts to break through. i announced at the very beginning that the enemy currently has no chance to advance several meters and kilometers, and is even preparing retreat positions, realizing his losses, realizing that that there were strikes on e-e warehouses with ammunition the day before by us and on fuel stylish material essential snake lady nataliya what is the latest news here what is the situation with the snake this

day on the island of changes fresh between storms as in the whole sea this is the freshest news and while it is raging there the storm is impossible not to approach it no not to approach it at the moment it is stormy and stormy there, not only the weather, we are not yet revealing the rest of the details of the operation well, by the way, we see that the weather is always favorable in ukraine and this is also a sign from heaven, so the whole world and all forces on our side uh, including natural ones, and it can’t help but be happy that the enemy has a lot of bad news right here. i wanted to ask andrii something, uh, and i actually wanted to thank natalie humenyuk, apologize that i didn’t recognize her, it’s just very rarely that i actually connected with you and met with andrii on the air, really. what if we will get to know each other better, mrs. natalya? i would be glad to meet with you

. the boss of the press center, the desk of defense and security of the south was in touch with us about what's next for andrii. well, we're still here , the news release is true. i haven't tried anything, yes, and our colleague iryna koval is already ready to talk about all the main news in the state for this hour what was prepared together with the editorial staff of espresso, so iryna, i thank you for your word, colleagues, yes. literally in a moment, i will tell you about everything that is happening at this moment in ukraine and the world. it is the 15th on the clock in the studio. iryna koval congratulates news time on the espresso tv channel today in ukraine it's memorial day