it produces electricity. where does it physically go in principle? is it disconnected from ukraine or not? it operates two power units with a minimum capacity of 600 mw each. it's 1,200 in sumy. what part of it goes to satisfy the station's own needs? this zaporizhia station has three main power transmission lines, and one of them goes to the kherson region to the kakhovsky substation, and about a third of the electricity produced by the zaporizhia station goes to the temporarily occupied territory this is part of the zaporizhia and kherson regions, and 2/3, and 2/3, well, that's all, at the same time, in the united energy systems of ukraine, also on the espresso tv channel, the head of petrokotsin energoatom

told that the russians simply physically can't. they would like to, but they can't switch the zaporizhia npp to their own power system because for this they would need to control the switching nodes from which you can switch to another power system, but these nodes are currently under the control of ukraine and that is why they are like this, please explain then the point is that not so long ago, the main power transmission line at the zaporizhzhya npp, the kakhovskaya substation, was put into operation, and the kakhovskaya substation is located above the territory occupied by the russian federation. in principle, russia can switch the zaporizhzhya station to crimea, er, even according to my information , a meeting was held in crimea how to switch

the energy generating capacity of ukraine to crimea it takes time to carry out some technical work, but probably somewhere. according to ukrenergo's estimates , it takes six months and even more to implement it independently. if they do it faster, i don't agree with the cattle because the part under the station is on the operator's territory as well kakhovskoe eh if in one way or another if in one way or another this station will stop providing part of the electricity, well, i don’t know at all if it will be disconnected from the ukrainian power grid, what will be the consequences for ukraine now 458 blocks they produce this difficulty in because of the war, but definitely our consumption fell due to the fact that powerful plants were built, eh, that means the power grid is generally disrupted in

different cities. that is, behind mars, there was information that the use of electricity fell by 30% of the excess capacity that we even have the opportunity to export electricity to poland is 210 mbt per hour. here, ukrenergo exports to moldova. yes, but in principle, it means that since this is the basic capacity, i think that if we increase the capacity and connect all power units to контролируемый е треритирование україные атомные i do not lead, but that uh, electricity will be stable very briefly, we literally have half a minute left, very briefly. how do you view the perspective in general now, uh, in uh, not

in energy in the european union, i read that somewhere simply, if germany does not close this year what was planned to close already 10% will be a replacement for the refusal of russian gas . i think that we need to replace the gas. i think that uh, such countries as england are also fascist, and i really want us to close the issue with the nuclear power plant , that is, because we announced very important things that they will theoretically be in six months. these occupiers who seized the station they can switch it to crimea, so what to do with these terrorists, experimenters, what with these switches, who are trying to conduct some experiments and switch our nuclear plant

to connect it to their power system or to or transfer this energy to the occupied temporary territory, who should react to it or has an influence on them, in principle, for example, the same thing, and whether they should now react more actively, that is, what to do, ms. olga, who am i, what is yours, they saw that что делать это только особождать окпупированные терироты glory to the armed forces of ukraine more i don't see any way out because they have shown their full weakness, they can't do anything, it 's very important that we have enough time so that during the next six months they won't be able to implement this plan. thank you olga kosharny, we have this time to free not only captured captured zaporizhzhia and er as, but also all our captured territories temporarily occupied by russians. olga kosharny, an expert in nuclear energy and atomic safety, was with us on the

phone, we are waiting for e right now -th conversation with our viewers viktor yagun military and public figure major general of the security service of ukraine in the reserve and deputy head of the sbu in 2014-15 we congratulate mr. viktor a little bit bad we can hear that so please i ask our technical specialists, it’s uh from correcting and in the meantime, i wanted to start with the latest news, what worries everyone now, the thesis, what is watching with bated breath, all of ukraine and the whole world is the evacuation of our military from azovstal, so russia, according to the experts of the american institute for the study of war, could agree for the evacuation of our defenders in order to quickly declare mariupol to be taken, according to ukrainian intelligence, from may 18 to 21, the russians are preparing a press tour for journalists in the destroyed

areas of mariupol in order to blame ukraine in the destruction of the city and the mass killings of civilians , russian propagandists are already taking something to mariupol, some fragments of ukrainian ammunition. well, radio svoboda is now adding to this news and saying that this urgent pressure of foreign media is being prepared not only for mariupol, but also for e- e kherson occupied novaya kakhovka skadovska armenianska and donetska p victoria what is your comment here what are the goals it sets for itself hmm what kind of enemy are these what this is how i would even comment on these plans of the russian propaganda, so what are the tasks they are setting for themselves, and in your opinion, will they be able to achieve them? well, i spoke to answer through the eyes of the international public, but the problem arises in one

thing . not e-e pressures, but in the permanent stay of e-e hmm correspondent groups of the main mass media of the world, that is, against the background of the fact that such groups were closed, the urticaria centers were closed in moscow and against the background of the one who they are gathering their prestur there now, everyone understands very well that in fact this is happening, in fact, propaganda is happening and this propaganda will be very well clearly and consciously broken by normal journalists who are really in kyiv now are at the front and are trying to get give the readers true information about this war. viktor pasha still

thinks what will be the fate of the defenders of azov, we know that it is difficult to trust the word of the russians about what happened in ukraine, ukraine was not a party negotiations. she stood like this, let's say from the side. well, not from the side. there is a little bit from above, and if the russians want to show their meddlesomeness, that is, no, then it is impossible to negotiate with them. and that anything that is signed with them is not fulfilled, we know this from historical parallels and it has been repeatedly confirmed, and now we want to see how the world will actually react to the fact that they will not fulfill the agreements that were made, i don't know, it's already such a high level .

russia. i think that it will be final if they do not fulfill even these demands, it will be final that not only can you not negotiate with russia, but it must be destroyed in the form it is, simply destroyed, that is, they will not really gain anything if they violate the agreements and do not hand over the mariupol defenders 100% fresh news about the fact that ukrainian defenders were brought from the azovstals, former colonies near donetsk, e. the defenders are taken, that is, to the very depths of these captured ukrainian territories, to places where the network is sufficiently developed and the occupation network is actually occupied, so the enemy’s occupation capabilities are brought in, well, clearly not

in order to easily surrender, that is, there is still a significant struggle ahead, so viktor well, how did you get there uh, and everyone who gassed fought for the russian authorities, this is precisely the personification of that uh, evil against which they are allegedly fighting, this is all densification, this is all the nonsense that they were announcing there, it actually concerned primarily the fighters of azov and therefore, being now in their hands, it is easy for them to give it up, well, it is clear that they want it, they want it and they don't want it, they forced them to give it up, but in what condition, how will they treat them, what will they show on their television, propaganda it will be videos, it all depends on how it all

ends, let's see and i'm very interested in why. because it's final. well, it's probably the last myth that something can be negotiated with russia. would like to tell us somewhere that let's come to some kind of agreement in order to save someone's own face . maria and i argued a little in the previous hour. different opinions are heard on the air. andriy likes it very much, like everyone else. we like the idea that it will be unblocked in a month. i say that those experts who join me on the air, in particular, joined the air earlier say that theoretically in 20 days we can to start with the heavy weapons that

we will receive from our western partners, so this is a turning point in the war and accordingly we will be able to move step by step to liberating our territories, we see that now the ukrainian the army is making a significant concession here. so we saw these successes in the kharkiv region, now we see a tough struggle in the east and we hope that all our territories will be liberated, and accordingly we hope for a turning point in this war that will cause supplies if literally literally yesterday the minister of defense, varshikov, says that then there will be a war for a long time, get ready, it will be a long and tiring war , and we will have such a war then. well, we are such a swing. in a more global way, let's talk about the general scenarios of the development of the war and how long it can last, so viktor, let's talk about the military blockade, it

worries us all very much, because about 170 residents are blocked, we see how in quotes the occupier takes care of them, and the occupier has turned the city into a cemetery where they remain hundreds of thousands of people are being held hostage, to tell you the truth . will you tell me what you like? if you like to say it, then i can tell you a very long and beautiful story . are not ready for a counteroffensive when they asked me why we can't militarily block mariupol there i say we can, we have to give mykolaiv zaporizhzhia kharkiv well, maybe dnipropetrovsk with a crooked corner and then where do we block azov, well, that is, we had to choose you know, in this plan and we then we we left we went

to mariupol, well, half of ukraine would remain occupied therefore, you need to understand that the problem is not that we want, the problem is that we can at this stage, we cannot e- counteroffensive as we want, we can take individual small steps to liberate this or that village and it is very good that we are showing our small post uh the whole problem is that ukraine is not yet ready for a counteroffensive on all fronts and that is why we are watching that we are somewhere in the same place maybe a little progress has been made. now there will be some advances. maybe i do not rule out er in the east of ukraine because i mean donetsk luhansk in the sense that we are blocking some er so-called successes of the russian army in that direction and not exclusively that we're really going to start pacing them a little bit

but that doesn't mean we're going to go with a wide front it's really a grueling war we 're fighting grueling defensive battles for what we're fighting them for to wear the enemy down when the clock runs out we'll see then and this and everyone will see that we will be able to turn the situation around and go into a counteroffensive. that's why we need to be patient, nothing will happen quickly, how will we be able to change this situation when it is fully operational, and we expect it to happen again, we can see that literally from minute to minute yes, it can be signed by the president of the united states, joe biden, the allocation of forty defense billions, and in general, it is about the fact that, from day to day, these supplies must work at full strength. we will receive clones from star wars, we will receive the necessary weapons

to see prepare people to form new brigades those brigades must be coordinated they must undergo certain training there commanders must get to know each other that is, it is not done in one day and not in two, it is done months ago and i say how realistic it can be, you know me once they asked, is slovakia transferring to us these uh s300 is transferring it like that, but instead we need to put something in the word slovakia or is there some way to do it and transfer it so that no one sees it and so on and so on. that is, it is all the time and slovakia in fact, it was transmitted to us, but it passed exactly that period a month before they showed it, so i think that before, er, in july, we will definitely not see any er, roaring changes, we just need to understand that victory is not one day, not two and it is not every day that we have something like this. it is possible

to say that it is exhausting work for our armed forces and i believe in them and i think that we will really not only liberate our territories, but we will definitely hold the eurovision song contest in the place where we want it spend n electro the last for sure very little time it is still important that we learned from the western american media, in particular, that probably vladimir putin himself participates at the level of brigadier general in the tactical planning of operations of the russian army, maybe from the forcing of the northern donets, this was also his order, we do not know now what this is about in general, for you as for the military general, it shows the degradation of the entire military leadership of the russian federation and my friend, your colleague, journalist dmytro tuzov, and i also said this as soon as this news appeared, we immediately everyone remembered the movie about hitler and his bunker , where he is sitting there on those maps and drawing something with a pencil somewhere in approximately this condition. that is, this is the

agony of the entire military leadership and the entire structure of this leadership, only in a totalitarian state there is no leader behind the line nothing to do with military education and training, he can manage some kind of tactical movements of his army and not trust his generals, that's why they lose. thank you, mr. viktor viktor yagun, major general of the security service in the reserve of ukraine, the deputy head of the sbu for 14-15 years was in touch with us and that we already have the next guest as far as i understand . that they agreed to join our broadcast and talk about all the news about weapons and what the

situation looks like on the fronts. well, andriy seychuk, we, as a co-host, voiced the conclusions of oleksiy reznikova, the minister of defense, about what russia is doing with everyone signs of preparing for a long-term war against ukraine, accumulating resources, erecting defensive fortifications in the captured territories , this was discussed at a meeting of the eu foreign affairs council at the level of defense ministers and with the participation of the secretary general of nato, reznikov reported what your evaluations are, mr. olezhe, what can we say about prognoses of a long-term war and what is your vision here, what will it depend on? when the winner is the one who has the better rear, who has the better support, who has the better society to adapt

to such trials, because these trials are quite scary and difficult. that is, we must understand that such a war is not an easy walk - it is a very hard work of the people of ukraine and we had to be united in this and understand that the whole civilized world will help us, but the time it takes for this help to reach ukraine is it. that is, it is not such an episode that tomorrow there will be 10 ghouts and we will win and the day after tomorrow you will already be released to sevastopol. this is quite a long job, we are really talking about the fact that months of hard work await us, now we really expect that the armed forces of ukraine will receive new weapons, primarily artillery systems, and the fact is that now it is the artillery, as they say, they take out all the battles

, it is the main means of destroying the enemy, how do you think it is so defensive? that is, there was a very correct distribution of its ready-made weapons, km ukraine should receive short-term - this artillery weapons according to nato standards. then there should be average weapons, such as armored vehicles and others, and then weapons that require quite a lot of training, that is, now we are only at the first stage, when we will receive the same uh, well, weapons, in fact , in itself for example, it is very revealing. here is this howitzer with three sevens. that is, it goes as a trailer, that is, in order to replace the time for its deployment in units, because mastering any new type of weapon is weeks and months of training. i.e. i mm 777 was just the fastest just in

control in this case absolutely i.e. if we are talking about just going against the zone to understand we ended up in pasica actually because we did not switch to the standards for a long time and when it came to a short-term conflict when it wins maneuver and well, just the professionalism of the military. that was one thing. now we are moving into a protracted phase of the war . that is, when large numbers win, that is, such concepts as the number of outfits per one square meter, which er-e assets of projectiles, which the amount of fuel, the number of cartridges, etc. are produced. that is, i am talking about the fact that this will be a test for the whole country, and you need to prepare for it and understand that finances are not easy. in fact, according to their estimates, the war

costs them somewhere over 20 billion rubles a day, and this is the annual budget of such an o-e region or autonomy, i don’t know the region, like the kalmyks, for example, and a-a. that is, it is a lot of money, and more than 150 billion deficit in the budget. and this is without such a final oil and gas embargo. nevertheless, ukraine is also experiencing a drop of 30% , it may be by the end of the year, if the war is not ended by this time, it obviously may not happen. what is this all leading to? what do you say about what will win in this war for attrition , including a strong rear? life and this is probably very good ah on the other hand, well , so, how well this rear will we have

to decide it all, and how most likely it will be to signed a continued martial law. the next wave of mobilization, because i also remember that glenn grand, a military expert colonel, said at the beginning of the war that already in ukraine it is necessary to think about the creation of the third army, which will be used in the future for counter-attacks, counter-offensives when the time comes for this well, look, that is, with regard to mobilization, it’s not a problem, in fact, to call up a huge number of people is not a problem, the main feature is that they must be armed and armed not just with some small-arms weapons, but full-fledged weapons. that is, we are talking about the formation of full-fledged full- blooded brigades with the necessary number of tanks , artillery, and all other means of reactivity there, volley fire and that's all. it all depends only

on how quickly the same elendriz will work and how quickly we will this one to master the technique is what we need right now to conduct it not at all no, well, it cannot be any kind of sport, that is, it is necessary to understand that those guys who are now on the front lines, it is necessary not only to strengthen them , but also to banal rotation, because people are tired of fighting , it is a huge difficult job. when everyone is a huge test for the physical psyche, that is, for everything for a person, that is why we really need to think about having three full-fledged armies, and if i am not mistaken, there really was a phrase that the task at the moment, the ministry of defense is to provide an army that will have the number of, well, the army - this is the armed forces of ukraine in general, an extraordinary structure that will have

a number of 1 million people, this does not mean that all this million will go and fight, it means that he will do it on a rotational basis, banal 300,000 should rest 300,000 are fighting 300,000 are preparing to fight and so on in a circle all the time and here it is necessary regarding the economic situation, everyone talked about lend-lease, but everyone forgets such a small detail of lend-lease - it is not only about weapons, the alentalist means the transfer of everything that is necessary for victory , that is, if there is a need for banal power plants in the national team, they will be there if they are needed, i don’t know there will be locomotives, there will be locomotives, combine harvesters, combine harvesters will be anything, not only weapons, and for us the rear is the whole of western europe, civilized, all of europe in general, you the civilized world is our rear and moments, how to say it correctly, of the

marathon economy of ukraine and the russian federation vladislav of the soviet union were as well from history as in the comparison of economies during of the second world war, i.e., the economy of the entire civilized world against the economy of the third rail, which was closed to itself. olezhe, we see that the enemy is increasing missile attacks on different parts of ukraine, and this is another such new reality of ours, intelligence and the ministry of defense warn that these strikes, they can increase, so the enemy can resort to such insidious tactics, and these strikes are not selective. well, it’s just a matter of striking them all over the territory of ukraine. well, on yours, what are your assessments? first, what can we oppose to this? what bad news for the enemy? i have

bearing in mind that we constantly hear from a number of experts that they are simply running out of stocks of these missiles and that they are not being produced so quickly. well, in general, i would like to hear an expert opinion about the prospects of this strategy of the enemy, which also leads to the exhaustion of both society and the armed forces forces of ukraine well, there is no doubt that the missiles are ending there, well , the number of such missiles is finite in any case, but you should not think that it will be tomorrow or the day after tomorrow or even in a week. maybe we will really feel, hmm, a much smaller number of these uskov is possible somewhere in a month, 1.5-2, not earlier , that is, just for the sake of understanding, the markets are afraid of this, for example, as a caliber of sea -based missiles, and these missiles are in service with almost all ships and submarines of the russian federation, that is, stocks of these missiles e-e exist at all the gates of the russian fleet in general

and the number is quite large in any case and they are almost finished, that is, if you look closely at the intensity of e-e in general, there are already significantly fewer launches of r500 missiles and the so-called chanter well, of course, we will see the end of these missiles, but the enemy will still deliver old soviet ones, such as 22, which have an approximate area of ​​10 by 10 km, and will hunt only for the sake of terrorizing the population of ukraine well, thank you for your expert assessment of the situation and well , for us, the optimism here is undoubtedly that ukraine will not win so quickly in any case