you have an example of the first world war, when , for example, everything was decided not only on the battlefield and how much even on the field they fight so that such a clinch situation does not arise that the stationary front line in our country may have such a situation that the russians can no longer advance en masse we cannot attack the mass yet. so, in this clinch situation , the one who better adapts to this confrontation will win, that is, the one who will understand his resource base, and it will unfortunately decrease in ours, and it must be recognized who, understanding all his understanding the limitations of the potential, it will adapt better , that is, it is more correct to place the emphasis correctly there, it will build a business policy there, it will have a resource base there, therefore, in principle, the military has fulfilled its task, they repelled the first attack of the enemy. to the quality of state policy, that is, that on the one hand, our army men would be able to wage war in the future, on the other

hand, that the state would carry out a set of measures that would allow us to look to the future with confidence i.e., the correct economic policy is not to make business a nightmare with an additional tax burden that generates real jobs, on the contrary, it is possible to ease the tax burden. that is, it is a question of who is better able to play the long game, that is, who does not suffer from economic overload. adjust the economic policy, first of all, so that all the disproportions introduced by the war, in order to minimize the negative consequences of all these disproportions, that is, as an example, you can look at how it was in the first the world war, when in fact the central powers lost how much on the battlefield and from internal economic problems that turned into social and political problems, in your opinion, do you still have any illusions about vladimir putin in the world? because when we talk about the future of our country, we are talking about and about the future of security architecture in

europe and the world so far some countries are watching what is happening in ukraine is happening in ukraine at the same time an anti-putin front is being formed there 40 ministers of defense of different countries gathered in rammstein at the air base of the united states of america decided to help ukraine, but still, in your opinion, does the world still have some steps or maneuvers left for putin to get out of this situation, or does he still have a chance to get out and return to some certain positions in world politics, so that at least someone congratulated him, you know the situation in this matter is very complex and ambiguous, that is, i completely agree with your point of view that um, when it comes to the russian-ukrainian war, it is not an issue only

it is not a question of ukraine or russia, even of europe, it is a question of the whole world. well, for example, in the 1990s, iraq bought a sedan swimming pool. that is, it did not only apply to iraq, but rather, kuwait bought iraq under satan hussein. this did not apply only to kuwait, it also applied to basic principles in sadam they clearly said that either you are leaving without permission or well, we will destroy you militarily and force you to leave the kuvey, that is, i absolutely share your position and this is the rhetoric that i use there when i communicate, well, at the international audience, especially when you communicate not in a western country, for example, like today there with pakistani students, but the situation is very ambiguous, because yes, we have the support of western countries, eh. so, this conference in rammstein is there the position of the seven and so too much for the usa, their closest representatives are not only in europe. and for example in the indian pacific region, there is australia, japan, and more than half of the world's gdp, but we have such a situation that we would like our position to be supported as much as possible, but

unfortunately, in latin america, in africa, in the near future in the east, in asian countries, the situation is perceived not according to the logic that you profess, which i profess, from the point of view of certain historical precedents or importance for the world order, but they perceive it, for example, from the point of view of what kind of relations are there with russia or what is the experience of interacting with the united states, that is, there was some ambiguous experience of interacting with the united states once, then if the united states helps ukraine there, then everything is not so clear-cut there and this is russian propaganda. unfortunately , they use a lot of such narratives they use some or other moments not the best , for example, from american history, here they say , and how little do the americans tell russia when the americans themselves behaved ambiguously against iraq in 2003, that is, unfortunately, we have an example when our enemy is quite active among the countries of latin america, asia, and africa

, and the middle east, so as to spread their messages and undermine the ukrainian position, but when we have active support for the west, it cancels out the lack of support from other countries or such a neutral position that they are trying to take because many countries actually take a neutral position, that is, they are in no hurry to help russia, what is yours, that is, they are not compensating for it there, markets, they are not compensating for access to technologies, that is, something there, maybe in the general assembly they will vote yes which is closer to russia and less closer to us, but they are not conducting anything active to help russia overcome the sanctions, therefore, the situation is unfortunately difficult , the position in the world is ambiguous, the russians are quite they are actively spreading their narratives, they are distorting history, they are selectively using certain factors to undermine, let's say, our arguments. they are trying to portray, for example, that the

americans, this imperialism, and russia are an anti-paralysis force, that let's all the countries of the west should be in solidarity against the countries of the west , i.e. different moments are used, but so far , on our side, the hm is a collective measure that has more than 50% of gdp there, and it actively helps us to counterbalance these countries in the ointment of latin africa america, which is simply neutral towards russia, does not help very much, that is, clearly in this diplomatic game. the truth is on our side, the only thing that actually is. unfortunately, among the countries of the west, especially continental europe, there are different positions, that is, who should be fought for in the first place, i understand the desire for information to fight on the fronts of asia, africa, latin america, but in terms of influencing the conflict, the main thing is the position of the countries of the west and the conditional position of germany or france is definitely more important than even the same one, for example, south africa republic or some country of latin america or some country of the middle east, therefore the position is bad - unfortunately the situation is not as we would like, as it

was in 1990-1991, when everyone sat down in hussein's house for the crime of aggression against kuwait, but diplomatically our position is much stronger than the position of the russian federation on the world stage. over the past few days, we have been watching a special operation to rescue the defenders of azov, the steel men who were in mariupol for 82 days and defended this city, and there are a lot of reactions from about what and how is happening in mariupol and what is happening with the defenders of the russians of course they are trying to speculate on this, they are talking about the fact that look, they say that ukrainian nationalists are surrendering and at the same time, the speaker of the state duma of the russian federation, volodymyr voladan , says that a law should be passed according to which, russia should not exchange

azov citizens for russian prisoners, because they say that azov people must sit in prison at the same time , the founder of the azov regiment andriy chernivetskyi in his appealed not to harm the defenders with his insights and conclusions and assured that he has a connection with the fighters and the garrison, let's hear in 2-3 days for a minute, i can say that the garrison, the regiment is in communication, i know what is happening there, the garrison is in place, the garrison with weapons in their hands everything will be fine, everything will be ok ukraine uh, don't

harm the glory of ukraine we will not harm, but still we cannot ignore this fact and this one history because the american institute for the study of war writes that russia could agree to the evacuation of the military for the last time in order to quickly declare mariupol. federation due to the shooting down of 200 planes and almost 200 helicopters, there is another version that the russians want to deceive the ukrainians and do something similar to ilovaisk, when the azovians go to the territory controlled by the so-called dpr, then the russians themselves will deceive the ukrainians in this history, what struck me the most is that russia agreed to whose what, ukraine well, maybe

she could have communicated better and explained what was happening, because it is not clear until the end how it will all end, they are only talking about some is there any influence of the world powers? i don’t know whether it’s about biden or erdogan. hmm, your version is what is happening now with the azov soldiers who were defending mariupol. well, you know it’s very difficult to speak in the background, and first of all, such appeals are absolutely correct . -m that is, what the more media attention, the more the insurmountable position of russia, which is speculating on all of this, and unfortunately there is a lack of information to draw conclusions and understand what will happen to those soldiers who remained, are not the wounded who were

evacuated and taken to controlled areas russia is currently occupying parts of donbass, i only hope that our leadership has calculated all the risks and that we really have trump cards . there are certain arguments that influence the russian calculations, which enable the repetition of certain scenarios. that you voiced. that is, so that we really get our heroes alive, all of them, that is, they probably limit themselves to this in the conditions of a lack of information in the conditions of heightened attention and in order not to continue the empty speculations of peleskov, we have been watching for 80- four days how the russian federation does not want to go there are no negotiations with ukraine, we are talking about the ultimatum, which was announced by president putin back in february. then there were some negotiations with the participation of working groups of ukraine and russia, now medinsky on behalf of the russian federation is talking about

that ukraine deliberately withdrew from these negotiations, and whether there are any possibilities and whether there are any definite signs that ukraine and russia can sit down at the negotiating table and agree on something, because all efforts , even by erdogan, to bring putin and zelensky to the negotiating table ended in fiasco, although yesterday , the russian mass media wrote about the fact that putin may fly to erdoğan in a few days regarding the settlement of the possible well, you know, in the theory of negotiations, there is such a thing as negotiating positions between our russian there is no overlap between the negotiating positions , that is, we have our own demands and they are based on the effectiveness of our resistance. russia has its own demands.

although it is now a little difficult to understand what they see as a way out of the situation, it is clear that the maximalist demands are already unrealistic and they also have a certain position of their own, they have certain calculation calculations, that is, we remember in march there were several attempts to enter into negotiations from our side, certain points were also voiced, but in fact the development of events at the front plus those that were not comforting news. hmm, from the suburbs of kyiv, we learned about the terrible crimes that took place and the general mood in ukrainian society . what will she say about this - it is political suicide, that is, it is taken into account with the attitude of the ukrainian people, the ukrainian people, who , on the one hand, effectively countered russia, on the other hand, put a lot on the altar of victory, he is not

will agree to the minsk-3 compromises, only more such global geopolitical ones, taking into account the possible membership in nato, what can the russian support position be based on? have not achieved what can be expected now, what can be russia's calculations, russia's calculations, as far as i understand, may be that it is possible to go on the defensive, to consolidate on the existing positions and to use that fact as a plus that, unfortunately, the flow of oil and gas dollars continues from europe, there are resources, and it is a plus to use the fact that there are different positions in the west, that is, there are more pro-ukrainian positions, but boris johnson is less about the ukrainian positions of alia emanuel macron. i think he has not changed his position. unfortunately, he still believes that it is necessary to somehow allow putin to leave with the face of what this is. and this is

absolute nonsense, if we are talking about maintaining the basic things of the world order, there can only be an unconditional withdrawal from all the territories occupied in the 14th year. there is the us government, which as we see on the one hand, there are heavy weapons, but something so far is less positive and constructive towards the proposal to the request of ukraine to provide us with heavier weapons, alcohol-based reactive systems, operational-tactical missile complexes , that is, russia is trying again, everything thinks that it will be able to sit through it, she will be able to, relying on such er, let’s say different positions in the west, relying on the fact that continental europe will still depend on russian energy resources, does not take such a maximalist position. that is, this part of the country could be a calculation, i.e., what american intelligence said, i agree with this assessment, they may believe that in the long term, the west will feel the negative consequences from the severance of trade relations, from the hypothetical severance of energy

relations, and from the negative impact on the food market, because we will continue to mention that russia is blocking our black sea ports and making it impossible to export agricultural products, which can mean famine because 500 million people in the world depend on our agricultural products. that is, it can be such a russian strategy, that is, here as a matter of fact, a lot depends on whether we can convince the governments of western countries that, first of all, there is no risk in the military defeat of that conventional group that was concentrated in cleaning all our territories and further. please give us under this appropriate heavy weapons so that we could do it with minimal casualties, that is, there were more positive statements by defense minister lloyd austin after the rammstein conference that you mentioned, but after that, more radical biden himself also made statements. as you can see, he is still quite cautious, so we clearly have the support of russia. russia has calculated in terms of the level of support. but russia is counting on the fact

that, as i understand it, the level of support from the west will not be enough to deprive russia of any lakes of negotiations in that all, for example, to militarily deprive by liberating some temporarily occupied territories that they have occupied since february 24, 2020. well, it is possible that russia's position regarding ukraine's non-joining nato is also connected with this, because, well, russia understands that having lost crimea, what will happen one way or another in the event that ukraine joins the north atlantic alliance, and then russia will be forced to pull out more heavy weapons in order to prove that this is the territory of the russian federation, because for putin, the return of crimea to ukraine will actually mean the collapse of political careers because in the crimea, which he selected in 2014, in ukraine , the entire current ideology of putin is being built, and i wanted to

ask you in this connection, do you adhere to the opinion that putin still still wants to create this mini-wed until december 30, 2022, the day of the centenary of the creation of the soviet union, because just a few days ago, the russian mass media reported that they are starting to revive the pioneer organization or the komsomol, well, in a word, something very similar to what happened during the soviet union. well, you you know, there can be completely different plans, different ambitions, but against the objective development of events, against history, well , it is very difficult to go against history, against the objective development of events, actually vladimir putin he is a person who contributed almost the most to the creation of a modern ukrainian political nation

so that the ukrainian identity clicked, which is based on democracy, liberal values , freedom of speech, and other values, accordingly, he may have any ambitions, but actually vladimir putin. it seems to me that with his aggression, he buried in this great aggression, he buried any possible hypothetical chances for some normal relations, even normal relations. i am not talking about some ussr 2:0 normal, good neighborly relations without russia repenting of these crimes, as the federal republic of germany already repented at one time. therefore, no, putin, unfortunately, is a very stupid, hard-headed person who never admits mistakes, and in relation to ukraine, he is one a big mistake that he makes, especially mistakes since the 14th year, but these mistakes, although they cost us dearly. unfortunately, we also pay for them, but the result of this is the opposite. that is, we

can already talk about the fact that we have a separate a political nation because it is truly a political nation , regardless of language, religious preferences, ethnicity, other points that divide us, we are united around the corresponding values ​​and defend the values, that is, we are a political nation, we are a separate political nation , that is, this process has begun actively 14- th year, it is actually already ending, so any attempts they have already failed, they will have no effect, so this problem of russian foreign policy is still alive some kind of reality that has not existed for a long time and they refuse to take place with objective circumstances that they create themselves, that is, the maximum that can be said is the withdrawal of all troops, er, this is compensation to ukraine, and it was once clear that not under the current regime, not because of this war criminal who never admits his mistakes, but one day it is to repent, it is to kneel down in fact forward to the ukrainian

people, and as willy brandt became in warsaw in the 70th year to repent for all the crimes that will be committed then it will be possible well, neighborly relations are possible, but otherwise, there are simply no other options, they will never be, that’s why putin finally buried the russian empire, which he loves so much, at the end of our program, mykola, i wanted to ask you about which scenario for the future of russia you are leaning towards because general budanov, the head of the main intelligence department of the ministry of defense of ukraine, says that there are two options for what can happen next from russia. or it will break up into several parts and it will happen in some certain in the future, either russia will get rid of those who currently rule it, that is, due to a change of power, there will be another country , and then with another country we will already be talking about something and the world will be talking about something, are you a supporter of which of these versions? well, you know, i think

hmm it will be something closer to the second option, but probably not in the terms that we would like, not so quickly and not to a certain extent, in fact, i will say more, i have seen, it is also worth mentioning the more important estimates for us that will be at the turn of august, i urge the ukrainian people to be more well to accept the assessment given by mr. reznikov, the head of the ministry of defense, to prepare for a long-term confrontation, understanding that the position of the west is that they support us, but they do not support us as much as we would like, and we are working on it, but we cannot fully do it as we would like. therefore, after all, this regime they are isolating him, he will boil in his own juice sooner or later there will be a change of the elite, uh, clearly they will understand that the war and confrontation against ukraine is not in their interests, it is clear that they will try to come to an agreement in order not to lose the positions they have, i.e.

there will be more of the second scenario, but probably not as quickly and not to the extent that we would like, i would bet on it and so, in general, it is necessary to prepare for a long-term confrontation, understanding all the risks and all the tasks of just such a long-term confrontation when we talk about a long-term confrontation and well in this case, it is not oleksiy reizenkov who is speaking, are we talking about a confrontation similar to the one that took place in ukraine in 2014-2022, or are we talking about an active phase, a hot phase that will continue in the future, but already with the entrenchment of the russians there in certain of their positions in the east and south of ukraine, uh, well, here it is. in principle, i have already voiced two factors that will influence how the front will develop further, if we are talking about the front, that is, the first question is with what forces the russians the offensive operation is ending. it is clear that it will fail. it is clear

that there will be no forces for us to attack. it is clear that we will have to go on the opposite side to the defense without mobilization and the transition to military lines, which did not happen. and here is the question of which lines they will do this maybe somewhere they will withdraw, but at what boundaries, because with what forces and at what boundaries , on the one hand, and on the other hand, the level of support for the west is important, because we increasingly depend on them both in terms of military and technical assistance and in plan for financial assistance because let's not forget that they predict a decrease in gdp there from a third to 45%. and therefore macroeconomic financial assistance is also very, very important, therefore it will depend on these factors, that is, on the third fact, which will be the pressure on the russian federation, that is at the junction of these things, the level of aid to ukraine, the level of pressure on russia, and with what forces russia will end and the offensive will depend on what will happen. what will happen on the front, that is, unfortunately, there may be such an option that the russians will gain a foothold in the territories they took after february 24 and knocking them out of there will be problematic due to the fact that

the level of assistance in the event is not as great as we would like it or not as quickly as we would like it. of strategic research and see you later in our programs i hope i wish you good health and i will tell our viewers that i am saying goodbye to you until tomorrow at 1 p.m. as a people's deputy of ukraine, we will talk about the situation on the eastern and southern fronts of ukraine. this was a verdict program conducted by serhiy rudenko. goodbye . there is no friend better than mother. there is no land better than

motherland may 18 remembrance day of the victims of the genocide of the crimean tatar people april 4 the rrt concert illegally turned off the digital air ukrainian independent tv channels espresso the fifth and direct a petition has been registered on the website of the cabinet of ministers of ukraine demanding the return of ukrainian tv channels to the digital air in order to sign the petition first you need to register it's very simple go to the website petition came.gov.ua there go to the registration tab and enter all your data, say your phone number and confirm email

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