own choice are now on the territory of russia, in moscow, in other cities of the dpr, and in fact we said goodbye to them, but i think that such a situation exists in almost every collective, that some percentage of people a-a, due to certain circumstances, made their choice, what if we talk about you and about your life before the war, what was it like? tell me, please, what your family was like, what you lived like. do you know what your peaceful life in mariupol looked like? i am now subscribed to the volunteer telegram channel i am mariupol . there every evening and every morning they publish such moving photos of local mariupol photographers . by the way, many of whom, for example, the famous photographer didov, are no longer alive, but they simply take these photos to heart because it is as beautiful as the blooming city in which

i live it’s a pity i didn’t have time to visit before the war. please tell me about your mariupol and your life there, you know after the war started and we lost everything. she was in love with him but in reality he was beautiful and you begin to realize how rich you had this wonderful and interesting life and when you lost it all and because in fact mariupol was experiencing its renaissance its cultural but in principle er-e recovery such a flourishing because really before in the 14th year, mariupol was because of the fact that donetsk was so big, everyone went to it. mariupol was more of a provincial industrial city after the 14th year, when we were actually the whole city

thanks to, including, our military yazova they were able to defend mariupol, they told russia that you will not come here, mariupol is ukrainian, so a lot of people came, more than 100,000 immigrants came here for mariupol, and something incredible began to happen to my city, cultural life began to develop some themes that no one had time for, the tourist direction of mariupol also began to develop, that is, we opened a cultural and tourist center, a tower, a philharmonic hall opened in us, and if by the 14th year there is only one theater operating in mariupol, the famous one i understood that on march 16, after the 14th year, private theaters and amateur theaters began to open, such as holding flowers, in which i took part, moreover, there were large projects of cultural events that thundered all over ukraine, so the golf festival team

did the golf festival together with mariupol actors , including the tetramania of nero's opera, which took place in the ship repair shop at the ship repair plant, and in such a huge dock where ships are being repaired, an event took place that flooded with water, it was just something it was incredible. there was a big mariupolfest festival, which took place on pishchanka beach and gathered 30,000 people every year from all over ukraine, including huge plans for the reconstruction of parks and piers, the construction of a new university, that is, the city flourished and it was like this . an example for the entire dpr and the netherlands, as we call the dpr among ourselves, is an example of how it is possible

to develop in ukraine and at the same time donetsk, which was only decreasing, getting worse and nothing was happening there. i generally think that what mariupol they bombed this me so badly. revenge for the fact that we were a flower that bloomed and blossomed and showed by our example how a normal city under normal leadership in a normal country can develop . well, maria, let's move on to the difficult part of our conversation, how did the war actually start for you, tell us about your the day of february 24 and about what was next for mariupol and for the whole of donetsk of the luhansk region, it started 8 years ago, military transports of military equipment and shelling were already common for us ukrainian positions near mariupol all the time when the conflict was escalating, there were some negotiations

, the rashists started shelling the settlements near mariupol, and i heard explosions all the time. and on the eve of the war, they also started shelling, and i woke up a few frames from the shelling from the shaking of my windows, and on february 24, i did the same i woke up from the fact that they were shelling something near mariupol and i said to myself, well, our soldiers are protecting us from the pedal masha, but when i woke up a few hours later and picked up the phone, that's what i saw a huge number of missed calls , messages from friends, acquaintances, relatives, i opened a map of shelling of ukraine, and it was of course a shock, and probably until february 4 i was in some kind of shock , because we really did not understand what to do, there were correspondence with acquaintances, correspondence with work that we do not go out hm we are waiting for what will happen next. oh, how i laughed. how did the following days turn out and when

it became impossible for you to live in your apartment because of what? and what did you then decide to do with your family? so, for the first few days, we were shelled the outskirts of the city and small settlements near mariupol, and people from these areas went to mariupol , such centers were arranged for them, including a drama theater, people came there from the village of ferdinatolakivka, and we just watched what was happening near mariupol, then there were still shops in the city huge queues at atms, pharmacies, there was a lot of panic, but not many people left the city, and everyone stayed because we were confident in the ukrainian military and no one thought that it would be so long and so painful because mariupol was already under occupation for three months in the 14th year, but azov was liberated from us, we were confident in our military that they were fulfilling their

tasks . they deliberately cut off the electricity supply in the entire city, with that the water also disappeared and huge communication problems began, the connection was only in a few places in mariupol, people specifically wrote there to find out the news, we found ourselves in such an information vacuum, we did not understand what what is happening in ukraine, what is happening next to us in principle, we have approached the military, approached the soldiers of the taroborona, and asked them for news from the front, fortunately, i live in the center of the city, and there was an opportunity to contact and read the news near me, and then 6 in march, the resisites cut off the gas supply and everyone went outside to cook food on the fire, it was very cold,

unusual for mariupol, the weather was minus the temperature, that is, it is very cold, it is very cold here, looters began to break up shops, uh, everyone understood that all of us in the blockade must save food we need to save water for water, we personally went to the springs in the old part of the city, we had to walk for one hour to the source to collect water and go back to our apartment, we saw that there were isolated shellings, but since the first days of march , air raids began, this is the most terrible 10 air raids per day just carpet bombed the city and on march 10, we woke up to the fact that our high-rise building in which we live was shelled with hailstones, our apartment was simply smashed to pieces, all windows and interior doors were blown out the entrance door just flew out, all

the furniture that was nailed to the walls was broken, the tiles collapsed , that is, in complete destruction, but i don't know how surely god protects us, i, my mother and my sister . they hid themselves there with furniture, but several of my neighbors received life-threatening injuries, uh, one of my neighbors was on the street and he got into the school in the lungs, he ran into the entrance, we dragged him into our corridor, ran to the military uh, so that they they called an ambulance because there was nothing in the connection, but when the ambulance arrived 4-20 minutes later, he had already died , by that time no one was taking care of the corpses. we took it out into the yard and for six days

our other neighbors invited us to their hallway because their apartment was also damaged there and the six of us sat in the corridor 2 meters by one and a half meters and just lay there because shelling started to be super intense, we stopped going out to cook food the streets because the shelling was 24/7 and at home, there was no alarm and that you understand that they will be shelled or you hear a plane you understand that you have to hide or you hear the whistle of this and that rocket a few seconds before it hits it, in fact it is impossible to escape from it and we simply lay in that corridor for six days during the shelling , our kitchen was destroyed and we actually didn’t have any food, our neighbors didn’t have any food either, and luckily the ukrainian military who came with an ambulance

to help the wounded, and they found out about our the situation and they gave us a box of bread biscuits, maria , and six people ate these shortbread biscuits. maria washed it down with cold water, which was almost freezing, because the temperature in the corridor was zero, and for 6 days we just lay there, prayed , hit the stove, and sometimes went out into our yard entrance to look at the new destruction , not including. they saw the ukrainian military there , from whom we learned the news, and understood that by that time the city's defenses had already been breached and street battles were taking place, because we heard machine-gun rounds, we they heard the tanks and what happened on march 15, the house opposite us, a five-story building, just burned down, as one apartment catches fire, the

flame moves to the next floor, to the next entrance, and the house completely believes in god. maria we understood that on march 16, you were in the drama theater in the day when a russian aerial bomb fell was dropped on the drama theater in which more than a thousand mariupol residents, primarily women and children, were hiding from shelling, tell us how it was, we don't have much time left, but this in fact, the most important part of our conversation yes so we decided that we are going to the drama theater uh, we went out and met russian tanks fired at uh civilians came to the drama theater there was a very warm atmosphere of uh mutual help and the volunteers fed us great peace uh spread out and everyone was waiting for the autumn buses. it's like they have to come to the drama theater. i left the theater for a long time. i heard a plane. i was on another

street. and i heard how he dropped a bomb and when i ran to the theater, i saw that it was destroyed so that there was no roof at all . -e is lit the third floor that part of the walls fell that the blast wave was so big that it was destroyed the debris was scattered all over the square and the people who were on the street were also injured lying all over the square wounded and dead there was a great scream a lot of people were screaming and then for the first time in my life i saw how women are tearing their hair out of grief and terror i realized that my mother and my sister and neighbors were there in the theater i heard how crazy people were just running i ran into an entire part of the theater i saw that there were a lot of frightened people who they don't understand what to do. i started looking for my relatives. i started running down the street again and everyone was shouting . that is, everyone was shouting different names and it was impossible

to make out anything. but luckily they heard someone calling me. it turned out that my loved ones were in different parts of the drama theater when my bomb fell on it. my mother was buried. the volunteers dug them out and they all started to go down the bomb shelter to that place, but my relatives were worried about me, so they stood at the exit of the bomb shelter and called me. i ran to them and saw that they were all not very well. everyone is on their feet. i started to descend the bomb shelter, but everyone started shouting that the theater building is on fire, we have to leave. we started to leave. we are standing in the theater square at this time. to overpower the artillery and people started to run who where. and we also ran just too much, just in absolute hysterics of shock

. and we ran to the philharmonic hall, which was also the shelter center, and the philharmonic hall also began to be shelled and we are from the horror of the understanding that they are destroying refugee centers where there is a large concentration of the civilian population, that is, they do not react with us, and they came to capture us, they came to simply destroy us, and from this horror, the realization that they are simply killing us in mariupol in it is impossible to stay in the city. the next day, we left the city on foot along the mined road. thank you for this story. maria was lucky, she and her family remained unharmed, evacuated, and left the city on foot, which was being destroyed every minute before our eyes. russian bombs, tanks, hail, and today, according to various estimates, only 100 to 170,000 people remain in mariupol. mariupol will be liberated

and rebuilt. we will definitely see maria kutnikova on the stage of the rebuilt drama theater . maria, what do you dream of after our victory? first of all, i dream that the city will be rebuilt, that we will not make the mistakes of the 14th year and do not ask all unforgiving collaborators that they will all be punished, all these people who are now betraying patriots in the city, they will all be punished and that we will be able to have time to realize what pain the double suffered and we will have time to grieve because now we don't have that time, we are all working for victory but i hope that after it we will have time to pay our respects to all the dead and peaceful residents and military

and everyone will find their loved ones alive or dead and that all these big burials that are now being dug up hide that each of these victims will get their own grave, restore their name and all their loved ones will find their relatives. thank you, maria. and i dream of visiting the free ukrainian and to see you on stage in new performances and i also sincerely wish you the same, i also wish that your relatives who remain in mariupol, your loved ones , they all survived, all were found, all evacuated and e. thank you for joining our broadcast, maria kutnikova, actress and resident mariupol, from one of the european cities, where she is now with her family, was in touch with us and told us this emotional story that cannot leave anyone on earth indifferent, unless it is

vladimir putin who is carrying out these atrocities. such criminal orders are now on the call of the next guest of our broadcast, this is a theater director, playwright, actor, director of the theater of the ukrainian tradition zerkalo volodymyr petraniuk, i congratulate volodymyr glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes, i see that together with your actors you are joining our air, young, beautiful actors, theaters of the ukrainian tradition zerkalo to all vyshyvankas, happy friends day, maybe a few words about the pain after a long break since february 24, the theater, which all this time participated in the defense of the capital, the metropolitan mirror theater returns to the performances under the sounds of kyiv sirens what are the plans well we have already started our activities

here uh on my left hand mavka actress olya anapriyuk olya from the other side so we can see congratulation olya she vita is you song yes where there arlen yes, he saw, yes, with his hand. and we. this play has already been played, but the director is sitting next to me on my right hand. well , we are seeing fragments from mazepa and mavka forest song. these are different plays, but their direction is the same. we are like a theater of the ukrainian tradition in in our performances, we are looking for exactly that kind of conflict worries our entire active and patriotic society. and this is the conflict between the little russians and the

ukrainians, which brought russian measures here, russian measures on our territory, because if we did not have the little russians in our society, then the russian peace would not have come to us here, but and this is what we see now, mavka olya and arlen are parliamentary tataryn, who is one of the young actors of the theater, and it is also important that you also have actors who are from at one time, they also ran away from the war and ended up in the mirror theater please continue, and here we find this conflict between the little russians and the ukrainians, and specifically in the forest song. i don't know if my predecessors, with mariana, my director

, or if they thought about the fact that mavka and lukash are exactly the conflict that there is a conflict happening in our country between a ukrainian-ukrainian woman and this little russian lukash, this conflict that did not give way to this er, fiery love, let it be here, too. because we will overcome them who are we with whom are we now fighting and these eyes inside are ukrainian, as petliura said, they are nits, which are worse than moscow eyes, and we need to charm them, this is the main thing , in my opinion, and we, in every performance, we

see how our hospitals are greeted, yes, the district hospital in kyiv, where the wounded soldiers are, we played this play, mavka forest song by lesya ukrainka. actually, all the fighters are natives, and this is the problem and the spring that is inside the forest song . these questions are the meaning of our work, our activity, our creativity, now today the theater has joined the defense of the city, so you specifically became a star of the world media because you stood at a checkpoint in your dnipro district and gave interviews from there, and not only espresso i tv channel, polish media, other european media behind you and behind

arlen yusupov is iryna karpova, who was in territorial defense all this time. the history of this part of your theater is already in reality, we can also see the photos, the photos, just saw how you stand at the roadblock, how you make molotov cocktails in the whole theater, tell a few words about it, well, it is, uh, in ukraine, in kyiv, everyone is exceptional the next day is unique and different from the previous one, it seemed that in these photos that were very recently that eh what is this eh now eh this is now becoming history well, we

poured 350 bottles of ground molotov cocktails in the language and i drove with these cocktails through the checkpoint young guys were blown up by bombs, and it was very interesting energetically, and it’s only a pity that i didn’t get hit by one of the russian tanks. but i think that thanks to these roadblocks that were standing around in kyiv, thanks to this, among other things, we also didn’t succeed er, it was not possible to occupy because, in principle, all these are our actors who are behind me . they are all standing behind me. they all in one way or another engaged in volunteer activities at our points at checkpoints and traveled, bred humanitarian workers, weaved nets.

weaved and hmm, well, everyone did their own work , and hmm, there were energy situations, uh, maria reminded me about the polish media, there is something that resonates with you . 000 comes out every day, it’s called what is this super-super express called, and there is such a man as kamil shepczyk. well, kamil shevchyk called me from time to time. well, the first days of the war were very gloomy, they were scary. well, if we believed clearly in victory, but you know under pressure these daily missile attacks and under the pressure of such an unknown future. this faith was purely

spiritual, some kind of distant, distant hope, but there were few grounds for this, to be honest, and we are in these bomb shelters, my sound engineer artem yakyk is also here somewhere. he connected somehow this wi-fi is in the basement, and we from the basement provided solutions to reports on poland until the end of the broadcast. therefore, finalize this question. i have one more thing that is important for you, whether in poland i was questioned every time and things like this came up, for example, what about you you will strangle with your bare hands, and then all the polish media expressed this, full of headlines, the director of the ukrainian theater, the mirror from kyiv, is ready to strangle kadyrov with his bare hands, mr.

volodymyr, i want to recall one more episode from your theater history, revealed the author of the world's first play about ato, which was played on the stage of the theater then where the occupied after the beginning of the russian-ukrainian war in 2014, north donetsk, and today the city has almost been wiped off the face of the earth, we see that the occupiers resort to the scorched earth technique one minute in us until the end of the broadcast, as soon as we liberate our territories, we will rebuild the donbas in the whole of ukraine together with crimea, it is necessary that we do not ask the poles, i answer the director of the theater of ukrainian traditions, the mirror says that ukraine will be liberated this year and victory is ours together to victory together to victory statement this i will still have time maria to read the poem from which you saw your conclusion, it is easter please four lines easter

message to kill it would not be bad in the country to elect a king who would oblige everyone to kill a muscovite and where you didn't meet the katsaps by chance, you had to kill muscovites, this decision was not easy, and i supported it, and suddenly i found a muscovite in myself. the truth but the katsapnia to your house will fool your children's covenant will take away your hand and that's how it will actually be when the muscovite does not die, so give the ukrainian you are your own king, look for definitions and choose a role when in yourself , in the death of the muscovite, resurrect your ukraine crucified on this is the role yours and what

what a muscovite to kill alone glory to ukraine glory to the heroes theater of the ukrainian tradition zerkalo and its director volodymyr petrenyuk were in touch with us thank you and these were portraits of the war held for you for you i maria gurska wait for serhiy rudenko in a moment we will return after the important of informational messages from espresso take a rainbow to the sky, a path forgiven to the sun, embroidery , menishka, to swim along that path with swans with us for happiness in white boats, happy ukrainian vyshyvanka day, your channel espresso we are a nation of resourceful people people, so i didn’t give up. they are quite versatile people. they can be something to do. we invent something that does not need to be

cooked. we create highly maneuverable high-speed scales that can drive. we will make it work. we are very comfortable to sleep somewhere in the copy . you during the war, the information front of ukraine fm halychyna together to victory on april 4, the rrt concert illegally turned off the digital air ukrainian independent tv channels espresso the fifth and direct on the website of the cabinet of ministers ukraine has registered a petition in which it is demanded to return to the digital air