process and in order to show that they have already acquired something there, to preserve some territories, for example, some preferences, some possible conditions that we will get something there in ukraine, we do not accept this, we accept today the complete liberation of the territory, if not, we will fight completely until the destruction of all enemies who are on the territory of ukraine, and our allies were able to, but 43 defense ministers of the participating countries - that's nato and western countries - specifically said that we will really help ukraine , we will really oppose the military plan the aggression of the russian federation is clearly stated by a powerful block, which is something that no one in history has done. in addition, nato and finland, sweden are already giving in. it is already russia's entourage to get rid of them. this is another model that fully shows that what putin was trying to achieve, he was trying to achieve 10 points against we manage ourselves, sir , but there is also information from our ukrainian internal affairs, so to speak, already

the corresponding bill numbered 73 80 has been submitted to the parliament, it is about expanding the main directorate of intelligence to the directorate of intelligence and counter-intelligence, i don't know how dangerous this initiative will be, because we still can't even fully understand what happened in the kherson region. so who is responsible for it and who was or should be punished for it? i think that the adoption of such a law is a decision - this is a strategic mistake because the whole world, as we ask you to assert , i was in charge of the appropriate counter-intelligence in this situation, i know all the world's intelligence, we concluded agreements with him, for example, in the usa, sir, this is like the strategic development of ukraine, it's all fluff somehow this is our main directorate, it is, in principle, the pentagon, the intelligence office of the us ministry of defense , who, having read in germany, britain, where are we going? where are we going to the european union

? and all management in the style of simply catching strategic intelligence, military intelligence, and also control of development , and this with points of control and detention of people and the arrest of many internal creations internal units of intelligence do not create internal units today outside, but here what are the other internal functions? i see that here not only is there no efficiency, but there is such a monster that can threaten the democratic principle and we still need to deal with it. but i think that this initiative is wrong, the law should be accordingly send and intelligently consider the question of how to strengthen our friend formats. i will say even more here that it is not necessary to change chairs, but people in the sbu, if they do not pass any problems on military counterintelligence there. cesari, what is really working effectively there and the main intelligence management, this is correct, personnel , personnel should do everything, not some movement, provision of

functions, and even more efforts to bring something under some kind of maybe even political perspectives, thank you, thank you, mr. generals, for your honesty, we understand that the merger of intelligence and counterintelligence contradicts in general health, the logic of the development of any structure, these are completely different processes, they are forbidden even to move in the most civilized country in the world, thank you, thank you, general of the army of ukraine, adviser of the president of ukraine former head of the foreign intelligence service of ukraine mykola malomuzh worked live on the espresso tv channel well, i remind you let's put it this way in my role, it is possible in the war in ukraine, in particular, we see a potential threat from there, we are preparing in particular for its reflection, but less so so far specific tensions and understanding that it is from there that in particular the

russian military can move to ukraine, there is no contact with us viktor chubanu political analyst moldova viktora greetings good day glory to ukraine. do you understand a little bit of ukrainian? i will speak in ukrainian. you can answer in russian. if you want, yes , the president of moldova has sandu. she declared her full support for ukraine. in the transnistrian region also stated that she repeatedly called for the withdrawal of russian troops from the territory of moldova. yesterday she did it again in the european parliament. today, in relation to ukraine, in relation to moldova and in relation to the russian federation, the status of

transnistria has not changed in the last 30 years. pridnestrovie is in the same status of such a preserved territorial conflict. российский федерации , but nevertheless, he preserves his strategic position, and now it has become clear that transnistria is, above all, such a bridgehead against ukraine in first line only in the second instance against respublika moldovy now, eh, with all the obviousness, eh, this is already eh, observed , eh .

of the republic of moldova in relation to this particular conflict, eh, in my opinion, it is quite harsh, in the end , the statement was a little different in tone, eh, in particular, than any previous statements of the current president of moldova, in your opinion, will it lead to an even greater confrontation with moldova and from russian federation or there is no where there is no place to argue, in fact, there are not so many leaks of contact, and generally speaking, the statement about the withdrawal of russian troops, i pour more traditional during these 30 years from the side and all the officials of the republic of moldova, it is just with varying degrees of intensity into the silent pronunciation of this phrase е осночения после обечания po in russia er-er in the

year 99 in istanbul themselves to withdraw their troops from there and evacuate the warehouses in the zucchini, which are very large warehouses with weapons er-er even during the time of the soviet army, eh , that’s what happened. georgia has already submitted an application to the european union to grant the status of a candidate country. it is clear that ukraine will receive this status first. there are no questions at all here. well, the republic of moldova is also trying. in this

situation, it is quite difficult for us. uh, of course, moldova, and let's be honest well, the historical moment allows a historical opportunity and it should be used, it is not a fact that we will get this status soon enough, but at least uh, uh, here is this vector that is connected with the current government in the republic of moldova, when at first my sando won the presidential election, then it the pas party won the majority in the parliament and declared about the final irreversible movement towards the european union, but i think that now my sandu is trying to consolidate this status precisely with this

connected with this application. and you are introducing troops that, of course, technically will not happen , not now, not in the foreseeable future, but for me , it is more important in the current situation, and in the conditions of russia's ongoing aggressive war on the territory of ukraine and it turns out that er transnistria preserves enough i would say cautious such a position is voiced by the er political economic elite that governs the region in general by analogy, we understand that this elite of the so-called transnistria she can be replaced at any moment, they can send another curator, and those people who lived on double bass, cigarettes, drugs, weapons, and so on , they can be put in such a framework where they

will be forced to play the kremlin score, and at the beginning of our conversation you said and at the beginning during our conversation, you said that the so- called transnistria can pose a greater threat to ukraine, but here i disagree with you on one thing, it can be used as a tool, first of all, to destabilize moldova, because the kremlin can grant the subjectivity of transnistria, as they did in the situation with the temporarily occupied territories of the donetsk luhansk regions, respectively, transnistria, which does not have the manpower to fight not only with ukraine but with moldova, but it can become a so-called pretext and after this russian fleet located in the black sea may begin to give moldova nightmares, in particular, it is about specific shelling of the same chisinau, i think with fear about a similar situation, but do you think that in moldova they feel that war can

everyone's war could spill over into moldova. yes, it could spill over into moldova. it was clear from the very beginning of the war against ukraine that it was no longer an element. when general minikaev, uh, the deputy commander of the central district, announced that uh, russian troops would break through the corridor further uh, through nikolaev, odessa , further to transnistria, until uh, for today at the moment, i am not a military expert, but at least i carefully follow what the military experts say, primarily ukrainian, i follow

it, and i do not see such an opportunity that the russian troops, at the moment, could break through this bark nikolaev, odessa, and then transnistria would become truly dangerous, and i think that it can be used exclusively in the event that the russian troops are activated, either because of the land corridor, or according to the scheme of these battles which are being carried out for the island of vymyvinny, eh, for the establishment of control over the island of changes, but we see that the russian troops are still unable to establish any control there, since ukraine maintains fire control over this island, and control over the island will change again, creating

some conditions about a possible landing through here is ukrainian bessarabia in the direction of e.e. transnistria and respublika moldova, here is such a situation - it becomes possible, but in my opinion, for today, e.e., the dynamics of hostilities shows that russia does not have such opportunities , they will actively advance in this direction. thank you. thank you. thank you. thank you. - to the western border of our country, we remind you that the evacuation of our mariupol garrison from the territory of azov is underway, a large number of our defenders have already left, all this is happening under

registration, in particular, with the participation of the international committee of the red cross, this is good news because we can hope that all our defenders and their persons will be verified, and this means that we will have an idea in general of the exact number and of whom we have to closely and carefully monitor who we then, in the end, we have to demand from the russian federation. and she, in turn , will not be able to hide anyone, on the other hand, the official. evacuation, but de facto evacuation into captivity, unfortunately, the red cross will be able to influence the situation only through certain appeals, well , since there were appeals at the level of the united nations, the european union, and so on, this is also a sad truth. and if from a legal point of view does it not appear now that the red cross, the international committee of the red cross, actually

participates in such a military act, that is, when some soldiers are taken prisoner and under the control of other soldiers - this is about war. this is not about humanitarian stories, it’s true, well, they are, so to speak, mediators. i don’t know there, i don’t know the controllers of where they are being sent to, we know some terrible situations are happening in the filtration camps, what is being done with prisoners , even civilians, in whom they found certain evidence of belonging to the armed forces forces of ukraine or to the security service of ukraine, that is, people simply disappear if they disappear. first of all, they can simply be killed. therefore, and accordingly, you can influence the situation only through the participation of extremely a powerful organization, it is simply an incredible story, as it seems to me, it can now be unfolded by the co-buyer of the vessel shishimarin - this is the first russian military man who is currently being tried for committing a war crime

. in particular, i would like to remind you that he killed a civilian and, of course, a ukrainian woman who lost a loved one instead asks for just revenge that the murderer of her husband be exchanged for the fighters of the azov e-e steel i will detail this news literally in a few e minutes so far we will be able to talk with volodymyr e grave head of the central of the district administration of the city of mariupol , volodymyr, we welcome you glory to ukraine glory to the heroes i don't know if it's worth asking you for some information that concerns, in particular, the exit of our mariupol defenders, citizens' appeals, information on exits is mandatory well, we have something сейчас выходят, but i wouldn't like to announce it live because this information is just a distraction. it can harm our

actions. please tell me. the thing is that russian propagandists claim that one of the representatives of the ukrainian parliament could be directly involved in the events in mariupol in mariupol and the exit of our boys from azovstaria i repeat summer groups can do harm let's not be like that and with understanding this position has something to do with life in general in mariupol we understand that a large number of people still remain in this place and they have to face inhumane conditions, even for life and existence , especially cynical against this background, the attempts of the occupiers to start water supply or electricity, and here and there the residents of mariupol report because of this, there are fires in houses that have already burned down, in fact a catastrophic sanitary and hygienic situation just

on the streets of the city. well, the water mains are broken and so on, and the world health organization notes that it will warm up a little more and an epidemiological danger will begin in mariupol, in particular , the development of cholera, we can also have have a place , volodymyr, what is happening to mariupol, mariupol residents? yes, mariupol residents, now and what possible solutions are already being announced by the occupiers , the administrators of mariupol, which in fact now as the city does not exist, you said correctly. regarding the launch of the water supply and the requests to provide the transportation of the year, uh, they are mounting it, and the last request led to this-sophisticated consequences, because the streets of the city were flooded in the houses, the light started, the fires started, so far , as far as i know well, this is also known . unfortunately, it did not affect the sewage

system . sewerage terms, the city will be flooded not only by water, it is easy when it is spent, it will be purchased, it will be seized, the fecal escort will be a catastrophe, it cannot be allowed hmm, how many mariupol residents remain in mariupol now, according to our preliminary estimate, about 130,000 people, as for leaving the city, it is also practically impossible or critically complicated or is facilitated by situations, and for them so earlier, if earlier it was more fashionable, it was possible for women and children to leave the city, men were not allowed to leave the city, now it is forbidden

in practice, the demolition of the rubble, we understand that under them in mariupol, a large number of civilians died, there is information that the occupiers, in particular, do not allow locals to dismantle the rubble of the drama theater, so that they do not have an understanding . how many people are there in your drama theater? indeed, his information is that local residents are not allowed to collapse any kind of landfill, eh, the assembled forces of the ministry of emergencies of russia were driven there, and according to our information, even after three days of dissection of the gavals in the city, they feel that they are not the same it is not comfortable, but gifts are buried as a result of shelling of girls and a normal

person, mr. volodymyr, you do not see the deployment of occupation structures, in particular, the russian special services , on the territory of occupied mariupol, and the carrying out of so-called filtering measures , in simple language, the roundups and destruction of our activists, those people whom they detain, what they are from do they do it, is there already any information, do they send them to some i don't know pre-trial detention center or kill them because there is information and such and such well, the known facts will confirm, however, he says that i i understand the completeness of the information about the people who are in the city that the so-called law enforcement service is absolutely not concerned with the criminal situation in the city, it is entirely aimed at identifying and isolating people from an active ukrainian position of people who are not satisfied with the situation that has developed in the city, isolating these people and placing them uh, there are some places of isolation in

sizó uhu well, accordingly, one cannot help but ask about the attempts to act by our structures, in particular, it is about our underground organizations, in particular, that's all it concerns donetsk region as such, it is possible to share information on this matter, well, we repeat, we believe that at the beginning of our conversation, this information is clearly live on the air, no one can tell us, of course, it exists, so i will repeat the so- called law enforcement services that are now conducting their active activities on the territory of our city in full it is very important to find out about ukrainian activists and their isolates, so any information about these people is effective, they are clearly on the air, i would like it, sir volodymyr, what further plans have you recorded? it is about the plans of the occupying russian structures

. what are they going to do with the occupied territories of the mariupol district ? they will restore it, they will build a cottage garden on the site of mariupol, that is, they constantly support the people, they constantly feed the twisted enemy, yes, they try to support the people hope that life will become better, however, take a look at the situation, we understand very well that the city of mariupol does not need the dnr, nor the russians, because in the past 8 years, we have seen what happened

from donetsk to donetsk. the completeness of volodymyr to you for this inclusion, er, mariupol was with us, contact names, er, it was volodymyr, head of the central district administration of the city of mariupol, of course, not directly from the place of the city, but the person is definitely understands what is happening there. and we really need this information, er, next, we will add to our conversation yaroslav zheleznyak, people's deputy of ukraine, mr. yaroslav. congratulations, glory to ukraine . good day. glory to the heroes and happy holiday, and happy holiday to you . well, we understand that yaroslav zheleznyak is not i manage rudyk well, but you are in the same party and the information was received there, well, mrs. rudyk herself said that she was involved in certain points of negotiation, so unfortunately we could not get information directly from kira well and perhaps you can share with the viewers of the espresso tv channel. well, because the internet is already

spreading all sorts of speculations on the internet. well, i'm really not kira. i don't know. i don't know if i should say something here or not. exactly. the information there is not true, but as far as i understand it there or translation difficulties or a technical error came out because as a person from mariupol, uh, well, you can say that as far as i know, again, kira confirmed that she was not involved in these negotiations, and considering that as much as this information is sensational and in fact it is sensational, the less any, we basically discussed this topic there about the evacuation of our soldiers, our defenders , and from australia, so far, i know better, the air is constantly turned on. my favorite country is france, because they still have 20 or so

companies that have not succeeded from the russian market, which i constantly address about this, and they constantly include me here is a person from mariupol. you probably know that i always answer as follows that this information is closed . this is the president, ms. viryshchuk, this is sometimes davida rohamin or podolyak, they are about the message, so far we do not comment on this information with mr. yaroslav, so the information is quite delicate or very delicate or critical delicately, but on the other hand, well, there is a feeling that it is really possible that they are going to keep the specifics somewhat silent, we understand so that at one time very huge problems in our country were discussed and analyzed and nothing bad happened so and here the question is who will be if, god forbid, something goes wrong, something does not go according to plan

who will be specifically responsible on that side, on the side of the representatives of whom you just voiced a scream in karakhamia podolyak, i don’t know there, uh, one or the other yermak well, who will be responsible if the russians once again remember only the story with the ilovai green corridors, that is, if something goes or happens not so, well, we would not like to risk the lives and fate of our boys, we understand that this stalemate was a dead end situation and i am not sure that we can now at this stage indicate the correctness or incorrectness of any decisions based on the result, in particular we will see, we are currently monitoring the process, you, as a parliamentarian, can't hold back, this is an extremely strange legislative initiative to merge military intelligence and intelligence control, so legally, project number 7 3 8 0, which was submitted to the parliament

just now . well, so to speak, to say it delicately, it’s called a fluffy arctic fox. and it’s illegal , you understand, because the functionality of the merger of counterintelligence and intelligence is just to bury it, it’s obvious, there can be some such legislative sabotage. i’m not i am an expert on intelligence, and you know that my specification is precisely economics, but in my faction i am proud of two experts and there is nothing in the slightest about this issue, this is the novel of kostenko, who was a colonel and love is now fighting in