express sponsors turkey has recently stated its reservations about our membership or to answer that finland has always had good bilateral relations with turkey and as a serious nato we will add to the security of turkey as well as turkey for our security, we take terrorism seriously, we condemn it in all its forms and we actively support it. congratulations - this is freedom. life. my name is vlad and lazur. i am on the pages of radio svoboda on facebook and youtube, as well as on the air of the russian espresso tv channel. the occupiers are preparing to forcibly remove another 539 people from ukraine to russia, including 55 children , this was reported by the adviser to the mayor of mariupol , petro andryushchenko, who says that these people

were taken from mariupol to the filtration camp of the nameless village, from there they are planned to be transported to russia in parallel with these occupation forces and groups controlled by them in donetsk region organize the so-called spaces to mariupol during these events, the leader of the dpr group denys pushylin tells what mariupol destroyed the ukrainian army about the organization of thrones in the occupied territories, ukrainian intelligence warned two days ago that the russian occupiers brought to mariupol fragments of ukrainian ammunition collected from all the occupied districts of the donetsk region and are preparing so-called local eyewitnesses brought from donetsk and horlivka who will tell foreign journalists about the alleged crimes from the side of ukraine, what

is happening in mariupol against the background of the announcement of the evacuation of the ukrainian military from azovstal, we will talk about this a little later, but now with us petro andryushchenko, adviser to the mayor of mariupol , my congratulations. well, let's start with the forced removal of people, you name specific numbers of 539 people, you say that among them 55 children, where did you get this data. if you are not in the city, it does not mean that we know how to get data from the city, and this does not mean that there are no people left in the city who love the power of the russian occupiers very much, and they are scattered in different circles in our country. well, agree, we have never once prayed in our information. and if we talk about if we talk about children without them the parents are not being deported in this case, the security

of the individual was mentioned because this is a separate, separate crime . let's say it is from the russian army, so in this case it is once exactly once. and please tell me, does the ukrainian side keep track of how many uh, how many children were taken away without parents, these are orphans or they simply divorced one of the last ones from their paternalism, i realized that the so-called local residents can be brought in and can tell journalists what is happening in the city, what are the narratives of this space, what do they convey to foreign bodies exclusively in the ukrainian language because, according to our information, the russians are currently preparing such a powerful, powerful information bomb, and the sso is directly collecting written displacement there through the submission of applications to receive compensation for the dead

and for displaced property, and this throne is just the process of another engine . -e of this throne, at least there is no announcement of any plans, because the spread has already begun to announce that there is a question of restoration, it is a very big question for you, it is related to the fact that there are certain internal political processes are happening now, well, in fact, it’s just slava behind m money flows by various structures of the fsb, it’s normal, which one is behind, which is behind the common one, which one is behind, which one seems to be behind, on the example of mariupol and donetsk, they can’t understand who you are , a bigger piece of the russian budget to become a little richer and and this affects directly and the lack of space and regulations what in general are here on this occasion, that is, we are watching what will happen next from the

same distribution, there was also a report that they are allegedly planning to destroy the azovstal plant about that this statement they are just scaring or they really want to demolish azovstal for some purpose, eh, you know such an answer, you can sort it out behind the shaft, we didn’t sound cynical, if it wasn’t for the fact that he was talking about it from below, at least from the first season of the visit together with vashchenko about the fact that i don't like growth, of course i don't like how the resistance itself will be lost in the middle, it became clear that it is specific, maybe definitely not capable, well, you know such statements, you should not take this crazy somehow somehow and why a can be the same probably a lot of metal, steel, and some other valuable materials that can simply be of some

financial benefit to them, of course, about his statements that they just want to cut everything, as they did with the necklace. well, how to take it somewhere to russia, tell it like this, there is such a risk, uh, they are trying to solve the question of small leaves to be introduced from mariupol through the port, while we are very busy there with our methods, it is flooded, it interferes a lot, and it is not yet to become such a challenge, and on the other hand, the railway police under volnovakhav is undermined that is, it was not completed by trains, well , that is, they have a big puzzle to say what to do with it, how to take it out and they are trying to somehow solve this issue. and the war is an idea, and i understand that it is sown in us now, not to such a global people , really, if a little to abstract from this mariupol and look at it purely at the

behavior of the occupiers and collaborators, well, this is how the tragedy of chile begins i read it from journalists, but it needs to be checked, but it is noted that it is allegedly the occupying forces, the occupation administration gathered the workers of the ilyich plant and promised to give them work books and also introduced a new manager, and this allegedly new manager turned out to be a former engineer , engineering director of azovstali, director of repairs of metinvest, the victim mariupolya levchenko valery ivanovych, can you somehow comment on these messages? true, false, possible, details that you know.

we are checking. i think that we will have proof of its confirmation, we will finally say yes or no, but what was the fact of the gathering of people from the combine under this device, were they going to issue books ? ball mills, but this is for sure well, in principle, for now we need to work, we are talking about two repair shops , they are working, so far, they are so far i want to make you a new base for military equipment that is suffering, or like in the east of ukraine, well, let's see what there will be more. well, in the meantime, we are monitoring the situation, fixing it, making preliminary conclusions, to whom we will be ready to share what we see,

of course, we will tell you. the fact that 89 ukrainian defenders who were taken out of the mariupol plant were taken to taganrog, this is the rostov region of russia, the process in particular writes there, too, there is a local edition of 161.ru from referring to a source in the security forces of the rostov region, the ministry of defense of russia and ukrainian agencies do not comment on this information at the moment, the head of the rostov public observation commission, ihor omelchenko, suggested in a media comment that the ukrainian military was placed in the taganroy pre-trial detention center number two, according to his data, in the spring, the isolation cell was released from the arrested, another unnamed interlocutor told journalists that the ukrainian military is an important object for exchange, but at the same time he assumed that those

soldiers who are found to be involved in the azov regiment will be tried in the southern district military court. i will emphasize once again that ukrainian official parties have not commented on the information that ukrainian soldiers may be in taganrog, but the ministry of defense of russia declares that in the last day in azovstal another 771 soldiers surrendered as prisoners the ukrainian side - this is further, these data are currently not confirmed either, the team of the international committee of the red cross states that this week it registered hundreds of ukrainian prisoners of war from the azovsteel plant in mariupol, however, the red cross says that they do not transport prisoners of war to their places of detention. meanwhile, the international human rights organization emnost international calls on russia to respect the rights of ukrainian prisoners of war defenders of azovsteel in accordance with the geneva conventions, they emphasized that prisoners of war should not be subjected to any form of torture and that they should

immediately be given access to representatives of the international red cross, contact us mykola malomuzh former head of the foreign service intelligence of ukraine general of the army of ukraine congratulations glory to ukraine glory to the heroes here we have been watching the story of the rescue of the defenders of mariupol for the third day and the ukrainian authorities say that this is a rescue operation asks you to delicately comment on this topic the russian side shows completely different rhetoric what do you think about it all and from your point of view, what awaits the ukrainian defenders in the end, an exchange or a trial, as is constantly repeated in russia, well, first of all, it should be noted that the matter is really delicate. we cannot talk about very the details of the operation, but the exchange is going on, the exchange is not yet planned to return to the territory of ukraine, but the first stage, which is provided for in accordance with the constitution , representatives of the united nations are authorized to officially conduct such work, the

red cross, respectively, the ukrainian side , representatives of various special services and humanitarian missions, representatives turkey, that is, there are various powerful authoritative forces that are involved in this exchange, it has not yet ended, but the red cross says that it has already begun, but it is assumed that part of the military personnel who are in the name steel do not agree to such an exchange and may even remain so. the russian federation even continues shelling even today. and in order to force our servicemen to go to a conditional exchange, but they are interpreted in a different way, that it is not just an exchange. and this is the surrender of prisoners, we have already carried out on this point - action throughout russia. they are trying to say that everything is presented as their victory and the last bastion, as putin asked the question and personally controls it, which is already taken by us, that is, they think of this pervaksi first of all, and spread it on russian society

well, i understood to show as a victory as a whole for the world, although this is not the case, all of us defended extremely powerful positions, destroyed dozens of invaders, 1,000 invaders, you are dozens, dozens, and then in a row, two hundred combat vehicles, especially heavy equipment, and this is indicated that they are brave forces completed the task, i will say 100%. therefore, in this situation, the very process that is going on today is already the process of saving the salvation of these people who really completed the task, especially considering that practically all the wounded are there, says the author yes, i used to get out, but more of them and easily early gates, respectively, in this situation, there are no rights here, but there is really information that they are trying to place them in prisons , for example, in rostov-on-don, roza cockroach, that's why to carry out investigative actions, and especially in the case of russia, the emphasis is on the fact that we will include those who were in the azov regiment, they are

going to qualify this foul through the supreme court as some kind of extreme tourist organization , to conduct investigative actions and only after that to change part of our dropouts, that is, i understand that uh, accordingly, the territory of russia will be moved, uh, almost all willing military personnel have already been transferred, of course, after that there will be an exchange procedure, we are trying to do it very quickly, as we agreed, and in this situation, uh, this is russia, in any case, it will be to ask questions about possible representatives of our armed forces of ukraine, but units of the infantry, for example, the border guards of the police, and in azov they are trying to drag out the process to make a political show of legal judicial process and after that only exchange prisoners of war who are captured in ukraine for their own. the same scenarios are foreseen, that is, not just a theoretical scenario. and this is practically for you. today they are in effect. i

think that they are violating some agreements that already qualify as tourists our military personnel as prisoners who surrendered under the pressure of the russians, and this is not what will really be achieved between any agreements, and in this situation, it will be used to some extent for the internal consumption of the russian leadership, so here is what it is so important and so it was put in russia because putin personally celebrated the situation and he asked the question that it was presented in such a way . for the russian domestic consumer, for a picture to convey certain narratives. but does the ukrainian side and the world community have enough in those organizations that are involved in this special operation, or do they have enough tools to influence russia so that this the exchange took place as soon as possible. and in this situation, i

think that it is important that some positions were agreed upon at the level of the un secretary general, this is already true, even though putin does not consider this organization extremely authoritative, but he gave the floor to the secretary general once they have a special relationship with the red cross, to which they also confirmed that they will carry out this exchange, and the third position is a special relationship with erdogan, who also accompanies this process, therefore putin, even in front of his already conditionally loyal leaders countries or world organizations to carry out some actions that will simply undermine him in the face, there was no trust in him from these organizations, it will actually be a failure, putin does not keep his word, it will already be even among those sympathizers who were there before i know this for him. personally, i was very, very impressed, so i think they will use the whole situation for their pr, this action, but gradually the taxes will be

delayed, especially in relation to the representatives of poltava azov, but this operation will be carried out, unfortunately, i i think that the next few days will not last for weeks, but for the azov region, maybe for a month. do you allow the scenario that the defenders of mariupol can simply become a bargaining chip for something else that the kremlin wants to bargain for? i don’t know if they are already announcing plans for kherson region - and the corresponding draft laws are submitted to the state duma er-er, that is, can it be a subject of negotiations a-and in principle actions because the ukrainian side has already clearly said that there is a subject of negotiation, nothing can be done even by the prisoners themselves, it is not support, but it does not depend on them. it depends on the leadership of our country, which has taken an unambiguous position of no territorial services, no recognition entities and e-e levels of kherson oblast , zaporizhia oblast, even donetsk luhansk oblast, there will be no more questions here, the only thing is about

humanitarian, so to speak, exchange, no others territorial, political, diplomatic , economic conditions here cannot, in principle, be the only condition, i can simply say when, for example, we should ask questions about etc. capture, for example, a high factor, colonels , generals, representatives of the special services of russia, medvedchuk, for example, here the question may be that russia can set the next priority to release such persons, because for them, for example, or us, of course, it is important because they are critical. here, i think there is also a subject of bargaining and we need such powerful arguments, as they are deposits of materials, and we must have individuals who will be effectively demanded from russia in order to give us all the representatives who were in the territory of mariupol and representatives of the azov side and marines and border guards and policemen, all those who really defended our state, for this we need to create political and humanitarian arguments that we have today

and that we must act, and of course it can also be captured saboteurs of high-ranking political officials who cost russia more one factor. i think, uh , women also applied. i think it is going unofficially now, the channel is this and the humanitarian format, which theoretically was supported by the head of the knr-70 piny said that the order of humanitarian operations should be carried out supports well the fact that he has more or less equal relations with erdoğan well, fine, but in my opinion this is not such a powerful argument, the fact that he wants to save face in front of the un, well, it seems that he has already lost face, peredon, obviously, in my opinion, you can correct him, he still persecutes what are the goals of this exchange? these are the questions that, first of all, he wants to show that he is also a person, because in the world he is already associated with a terrorist. this is the first component of the one who makes concessions to them. it was necessary to take and show that everyone gave up, and this is

his second argument, and he seems to have achieved this by using it for pr for the russian federation, and the third, he sees that there is no strategic success, not only in the first stage, in the second stage, the third stage of the operation has already begun, as he said the special about ukraine, that is why he is preparing for negotiations with ukraine and in this situation he is thinking just not to strain the situation to the end, as if he also took some mental steps because already today the minister of foreign affairs and deputy the minister of economy rudenko in front of this lavrov in front of this sand literally three days already they are showing that we are ready for negotiations with ukraine why because there is a failure, the strategic pressure is on the prolonging of situations and this is going to undermine the russian federation and powerful new weapons, the new position of our troops, which will give the opportunity for internal offensives, is russia 's strategic failure, therefore, in this situation, they are going

to take more conditional steps, a gesture, as it were, towards the negotiation process, and it is already the closest possible two or three months to reach some negotiation process on their own terms, even if they wanted it , but in order to save face, as they said today, this position exists, he tells this position through macron and through scholz and through other leaders , this will not be a single position on the ukrainian side, what will be the question regarding the terms of the withdrawal of troops, full security guarantees. it is clear. as for the terms of the negotiations on the azov region, on our defenders, they will go around mariupol separately and the humanitarian mission heard you. thank you for your comment mykola malamush the former head of the foreign service of ukraine was on radio svoboda, the civilians of mariupol sat in the bomb shelters in azovstal for more than two months, the people were there until the russian and ukrainian sides agreed on the evacuation of civilians

. yuliya shabanova was also among the evacuees. she agreed to meet with radio svoboda and tell how you traveled with of the blocked city and what the filtering procedure looked like after the shelling of the house, here we counted on the green corridor and now we got stuck in the refuge, so we got some kind of feeling that we were fools we didn't know if we would come out or not. our ukrainian military came and brought food for many children alone. hello, they said that we need to raise awareness because they can't. there are small people and children in the epicenter of hostilities. then, on april 25, it was monday. yes, they came. it was unfortunate. evacuation when they began to agree well, i understood that with the russian side and it works out. i was at the bottom because i was not on the first list, and somehow the people who were on the first list

said that the military had already caught up with the kraz ladder. well they haven't taken out the civilians yet. who issued that when will it be safe and here i am below the bomb shelter and i hear a bang like an explosion, because god is the same. at first i thought i had calmed myself down, but it can't be. it seems like they agreed , but i didn't want to kill hope. i think probably this door was made of iron, then i heard it again for the second time, then the people were already in tears to save the flight from below, as it turned out, they said that a drone was flying. the first time in the evening, but it was very quiet, but in the second time, i had already left with my husband, but i blocked two exits , and it turned out that the building had collapsed. such

a minibus was without windows, and then even then our military said goodbye and handed us over to the russian side. we were met by representatives of the red cross and the russian military, and we left for the nameless. there we went through the filtration procedure in two tents one for men was checked for women, but for women they were checked in the tents where the women were, that is, we took off our underwear, they forced you to take off our underwear, and at first there was a walk on me, i took off the walk i was told to take off my t-shirt. lower your underwear, lower your jeans, show me, they must have looked at the traces, i understand that there was a machine gun and tattoos, you can see that they were looking for it, one woman came up, put her hands on me, and said, "that 's the index finger, some kind of smeared, then it's on

i drew attention to the tents where the men, the man was doing the scrying, he said briquettes, attention that here molniya rubbed his finger, it was really unpleasant here . well, to be honest , i didn't expect it. and then there were already such questions of a general nature , if you have acquaintances of the armed forces of ukraine there , or what if someone from your acquaintances supports ukraine, well, of such a political nature. well, i said that it was not a political conversation he came in too, well, the same ego, how would they look at the fingerprint screening, they asked questions there, they asked what you saw there, i would like to ask everything what i saw, i said that i was sitting in the shelter and did not see anything, and we went to the toilet here the stove was collected by a few women, children, a big one in the toilet, well, a representative of a balloon and-y well, in the russian military, go to the toilet no no there

was an offer who wants to become well, that is, well, stay yes, here on this territory, so maybe one day he wants to stay in mariupol to return someone wants to go to russia, and who wants to go to zaporozhye. well, all of this was accompanied by the russian military, they already got on the bus, they counted us, that is, they counted us, too, as they handed us the driver who explained that there would be such a small gray zone. and then we will enter ukraine and when we have already entered our place, he said welcome to ukraine and we have arrived, you can leave your comments in the chat for broadcast on facebook or youtube. the trial of a russian serviceman is ongoing in kyiv. he is being tried for the murder of a ukrainian civilian on in sumy oblast, vadim shishimarin, the so-called russian soldier, admitted his guilt and asks for forgiveness after the case is heard in court. taras levchenko is monitoring

the details of the shooting of an unarmed resident of the village of chupakhivka in sumy oblast. at today's court hearing, russian serviceman vadim shishimarin, accused of this crime , also testified. shishymarina and the sumy oblast, the wife of the murdered man came to appear in court. at the same time i opened the gate and saw the car , i saw this young man, the defendant, who when i opened the gate, he was a healthy machine gun, i ran there, closed the gate, i chased him well , well, i closed the door and leaned against the pillar like that and stood there, scared, very standing . the meeting demonstrated a

russian-made machine gun that belonged to the suspect , this is one of the pieces of evidence in the case; in addition, new details of the column in which the suspect, 21-year-old vadym shishimarin, was present became known - the ukrainian armed forces broke up a car bomb in sumy oblast with more than four secret servicemen fleeing in a car stolen from civilians in the village of chopahivka. they saw a 62-year-old man talking on the phone. they opened fire on him without a gunman. the gunman died with a machine gun, firing a shimaring gun. as he says, he was following orders when you saw him . the victim was the first time you realized that he was a civilian . another eighth was like that. well, you understood that he was a civilian. he was unarmed. yes, he was in civilian clothes.