open is actually plus $30. now contracts are concluded with a premium or a markup of suppliers and sellers who sell us $150-200, that is, very seriously. why is such a high markup covering the amount that was canceled even accordingly in our country? the carriers started actively. they see that we have a demand and they also started raising the price tags, that is, if we started somewhere in march, there was a route or a tariff there that was somewhere around €1.5 per ton, now it is already €3. i.e and that's all. well, they see that we have demand, that we have a deficit. well, as they say jazz business. yes, accordingly, the price for transportation, especially by

gasoline truck, as the most expensive type of supply , is already comparable there. that is, it already plays a very important role, that is, for example, if a ton of product costs $ 1,000, then transportation can cost $ 300. that is, well, this is almost 30% , this has never happened, respectively, now compare the prices there with poland with europe. here, we just have to clearly control the reference point, see what the price is made of. well, as they say, optimistically, on the other hand, we understand that prices are letting go, well, on the one hand, it seems to be about the realities of our economic situation, and on the other, on the other hand, it is a feeling that the government so to speak, it simply eliminates itself. i don't know what the truth is, what steps should be adequate

in order to solve this situation, maybe a state insurance program for private gasoline trucks and gas stations, etc. well, because we we understand that it may fly in, as the russians bombed the same lysychansk deliberately in order to destroy it. well, we understand that this is a threat to business. accordingly, it would be possible to solve the insurance situation or some kind of subsidization of certain logistical things, so to speak, mr. dmitri, of course it is good, well, will the government update the numbers? such uh, insurance, uh, the organization of the state is not a insurance company, therefore, uh, private insurance companies, for such a case, are unlikely to take up any fines and so on, that is, they they don't completely let go of this situation, and here we find ourselves, so to speak, in the harsh realities of oil and gasoline capitalism, well, to

solve the problem in terms of the problem of large imports of railways, railways, railways by road to oil depots, it is indeed possible to connect insurance companies to well and insurance companies - then pro-programs in order to, well, when he will fly, god forbid, it was possible to somehow compensate for this with business there, and the second moment, let's divide it into automobile transport, look at the border crossing literally there 2 km foreign transporters charge for this. well, two hryvnias per liter. in fact, why, because ukraine lacks its own gas stations, that's ukraine. well, that's how i consider myself a state now. it's extremely important to develop programs for the docking of road transport. we understand, we understand. agrarian production we need to do something by heating some coal as it dries and climbs, that is, naturally we must understand that there will be many such local problems that can only be solved quickly by road transport, and today it is not a solution, it is very problematic to drive a

truck to europe, because men do not release long-distance trucks, and women do not produce long-distance trucks. it will also be out of pocket, uh, well, let's say that there are plans and transfers of transport companies. and today this region is not important because it transports only need to focus on solving local problems, we are on automobiles by transport, because railway transport is a large tracker, this is a completely different topic, which is also absolutely correct, it is necessary to work here, in this direction, it is necessary to work, and the state also needs to connect to increase the capacity of border crossings, maximize the number of shifts of employees who serve customs crossings this kind of game, the border service will cancel all possible days off, the pressure to issue a permit in such a situation is not yet a phenomenon in our country, we will go to the place and

how would this issue be lobbying for direct contact with the government, by the way, they are actively helping he is saying that we will not occupy the air, but here , the government is working, it is necessary to work even more, but i agree with you, the government is working , but we understand the situation in which our society will be during the month, that is, may june, half of july, well, it will be a fuel armageddon. yes, but at the same time, the metro has just told about an important story to simplify communication and travel on the border, i don’t know, maybe it would be promising to just open, i don’t know, a separate green crossing for all gasoline trucks so that they move under the simplified system, our customs officers might also work actively without lunch without any

changes , i don’t know. there is one of the crossings, so they want it, now it seems they have even equipped it purely for gasoline trucks , but you also have to understand, yes, what. well, i think now is not the time where we need to concentrate cars and in one place. it's true, it's true, so there really is order there transitions work in us, uh, a special procedure has been developed for the passage of even the marking of those gasoline trucks, and there are really, well, now there are no complaints about efficiency, that is, there is a priority, there is a priority registration, but the main problem is simply that we have a shortage of this automobile park in europe, why is there such a problem, i.e. there are a lot of machines,

but 10-15% of those machines can go to europe, because in europe there are very strict requirements for machines, there are other systems at the legal level, other systems for pouring the product and so on, so now the company is actively equipping these their cars. i know that several networks of gas stations have bought many gas trucks in europe, they are also bringing them. supply ugh, gentlemen, well, very briefly. maybe you have some advice or suggestions for urgently improving the situation as soon as possible. so , what do you think should be done to make it easier for those who

sell gasoline to bring it in, dmitry? to talk with european partners, it is necessary to arrange logistics within european countries so that we carriers can travel 6,700 km from the ukrainian border it is necessary to understand here, as i have already said, that it is necessary to point-by-point walk through all the small slopes about removing the cool widths that exist and still solve the issue of financing the automobile fleet, it will definitely rise, it will definitely be needed and it is necessary not to put out the fire like we are now i'm listening, here's the fuel market, it's necessary to harness the following, our fire will be judged here in three months, it's a harvest, we're going to bring out grain, you know, it's funny, literally two words are necessary now we are already dealing with the processing industry, because we will see grain today . and we will use oil on a temporary basis. it will be easier to do that. therefore , now it is necessary to give

the processing industry a coal tower to expand production machines. conduct markets and here we are already, as they say, putting out a fire here, we just need to try to work with partners to attract them to the competition, you can train resources on the available database and such отрам е-е ждать пока мы пероболем ету ситуация here the second one is not given tomorrow етой ситуация не решится we are going but we haven't reached yet thank you thank you well the main thing that we are going is the feeling that we are at least moving in this direction mr. sergey do you have any additions regarding advice from on the part of dmytro yes, it is necessary to understand that now the problems are not in ukraine, that is, all the problems with fuel are abroad, that is, our neighbors are there, the poles, the romanians, the moldovans, the hungarians, and so on, that is, the main problems are there, there are a lot of moments there that

not even agreements and about which they themselves did not know until we showed up, since no one transported gasoline from the netherlands to ukraine via these routes. well, it is necessary to understand that there is complex logistics there and water transport and rail and road, that is, there are just such logistical schemes from which the europeans, they simply do not understand what is happening in general, that is, our traders are actually reforming this market today, they are turning it around because all the time oil products flowed from east to west, now our task is to turn this flow from west to east very thank you opa new for this extraordinary qualified conversation. well, we can hint to our tv viewers that it is still worth stocking up on rovers, bicycles and electric scooters just in case, so to speak . serhiy kuyun - director of the a-95 consulting group

and dmytro levushkin, director of the prime company group, worked directly on the air of the telethon of the espresso tv channel, we are moving on, we understand that the story with the freed hryvnia exchange rate, the story with the lack of regulation of gasoline prices will have an overall effect on the situation in our economy, and it is not theirs about some abstract numbers, not about some abstract indicators of the number of cows there or the number of collected taxes that go there, it is not known where it is specifically about the lives of our citizens, i.e. you and me. dear tv viewers, for the analysis of this situation, the director of the institute of socio-economic transformation and minister oleksiy kucherenko is involved people's deputy of ukraine in 2007-2010, glory to ukraine, gentlemen, those who have the honor to

analyze the current difficult situation with you, the hryvnia was released, the gasoline was released, and it went away. i think that no economic nostradamus will conduct an analysis. so what should we expect? literally in two weeks, but i will still ask you to make reasonable omissions, oleksiy. thank you. well , first of all, i am glad that i heard the previous colleagues , very professional, really calmly, they explained it, maybe a little to discuss i wouldn't um i wouldn't become so very tolerant of the actions of the authorities, i still was, because i believe that the factor is subjective and the factor of errors that you could mitigate the situation on the fuel market is definitely present for me. first of all, you know, well, this is the effect of an arrestee. i'm sorry, i don't want to offend anyone. you know that many people have questions. what exactly

is meant by the effect of an arrestee ? well, today we will do without this effect, at least i don’t have time now to take off the tie and change clothes, you are right, i’m right, what do you mean, a large part of our people, especially the elderly, think that they need it. well, maybe they are right, but what is needed is the opposite to calm down all the time to say that it will be fine, uh, you remember yes, they said in three weeks, the laws will be finished in may, we will finish it now, not in may, at the end of the summer, but they accept it, they like it, i wonder why i remembered about i don't watch this honorable mr. arrestovych, but i hear a lot of course. look, it 's absolutely clear that there will be a crisis with fuel.

well , it's absolutely clear. kremenchuzi ya i ask only one question. well, why should we tell such a powerful and great representative of the government, as the first vice-prime minister, who is also the minister of economy, to declare on april 29 that we, the government, will solve this problem in a week, there will be no queues and prices will return to the pre-war level. why, i cannot accept this. do you understand i am ready to forgive anything if it is an adequate and honest government that warns its citizens what will happen next so that you and i can build our family strategies, tactics, budgets, you understand, because in this situation it is really very it's difficult, i'll tell you. i spoke with the bankers yesterday, they are not able to predict the exchange rate today, they are simply not able, i don't want to scare anyone there , but i'm not optimistic, you know, about this, since the

abolition of state regulation, but on the other hand, i understand what's happening on the fuel market now in fact, apart from the leaflets, they are knocking down hyped demand, you understand, that is, some kind of equilibrium price, it will, in principle, force a significant number of ukrainians. somehow optimize your routes to see there i can go there i can’t understand what is needed is an immediate problem of public transport which has been neglected since kyiv all the time because we don’t have adequate public transport scooters well i’m sorry i’m into that it’s for young people girls to ride can be but well, to a large extent, they will not solve it. well, because it is not a young woman who rides a bicycle, and nothing comes out of the situation, because, let's face it

, in ukrainian towns, public transport did not work out. i am being ironic, of course. this is how we understand how serious is it, someone can, someone can't , god forbid, we don't have the culture of this lispedia. let's say it's like in denmark, where the caravel yes, there are princesses , it's not normal in the center, it was built like this, do you understand cities and it really is, well, i don't know how we have it, are they really capable lisapedi i'm sorry to replace , i don't think so much, but on public transport i can just tell you, because i've already been in this situation in warsaw, which is a smaller number than kyiv - 3,000 units of public transport and in kyiv 900 , you see. here's the answer to these questions how ready are we for this transformation? well , to thank oleksia, we involve ilya neskhodovskyi, the director of the institute of

socio -economic transformation, in the analysis. now very well described by oleksiy kucherenko, who knows how it works, your forecasts for the near future regarding gasoline, i actually agree with absolutely everything that was stated about the fact that there are of course problems with logistics there are problems with the fact that it is necessary to reduce fuel consumption inside the country by applying any methods that are possible and of course the use of public transport is one of the effective ways for people to transfer from cars directly to e-e the same public transport i have i also mean electric vehicles, i mean trams , trolleybuses, which would give an opportunity to save on new ones , and these are of course the right steps, even the use of buses, in which many more people travel, then accordingly, less is spent on one person due to the exchange rate. well, i wouldn’t say that it is flying. and that’s how it started. let’s just say that the pressure

is so powerful that it is satisfied, and the sale of currency that was sent to ukraine to ensure the revenues of our budget has ended. financial aid came in the form of currency, it went to the foreign exchange market and, let's say, balanced it, but the actions of the authorities actually led to a strong imbalance . of certain speculations that were on this market, it was possible to actually withdraw the hryvnia to cards abroad, then bring it to ukraine and resell it at the morning exchange rate, and accordingly, people earned 7,000 per week on this during the war, and that is why he is trying to solve this issue. and at the same time, i i believe that he should not keep it at the level of 29.25, and establish a certain corridor at least equal to 33 uah, for example, from 29 to 33 uah, and thus

declare directly to the market that keeping it at the level of 33 uah will be tough, at least and for several weeks, accordingly, it also changed this margin on which it is now producing and also the test is possible to earn that have serious problems and also which decisions were made, in particular, for example, the exemption from vat on imports led to the fact that we now have all imports and exemption from vat and excise on cars people began to buy more currency in order to take advantage of this opportunity and buy a car now, as a result they increased the demand for currency further, then they came and again began to increase the consumption of gasoline, that is, it insufficiently substantiated also increased, there is also a question about non- reimbursement of vat inside the country has led to the fact that exporters have problems with the fact that they send their products abroad, then the restriction on individual imports of one so-called critical import has led to the fact that some enterprises working in

including for export, they do not have the opportunity to manufacture their products and sell them because individual components are imported, and they are not directly included in the list of critical imports that's why they just stopped, that's why there are many questions for the government. of course there is a war, no one will deny that this is the number one reason for the problems that ukraine is currently facing, but the children need to be professionally adequate and the price of a mistake today is quite high, so i ask the government to turn to our economic policy in order to adjust it to the problems we have and it is adequate and not. regulate strictly regulate then we release not even one is installed . and we solved these problems, there were left

to settle, that is, this is a chaotic movement of e-e from left to right, that is, anything. this shows both unprofessionalism and an open market, and this, of course, has a negative effect on how e feels now, who feels insecure and free. rests himself extremely unstable at the moment, so to speak , the effect of the arrestee worked during the first month of the war. you know here now, when we are fed with fables that we are working. we are counting. everything will be fine . it will not work. i would repeat the catch phrase of the arrestee who was explaining what happened in kherson oblast, yes what well, so to speak, sexual intercourse stretched out in time, but it happened like this, i don’t want to use expert vocabulary, which i used the adviser of the head of the office and frankly and frankly and aptly

the vocabulary for everyone everyone understood yes well and accordingly, should we take some extremely drastic and quick steps oleksiy well, you are an experienced person, you know how the system works on the one hand, and on the other hand how the market is working. well, because some people talk about the so-called banking conspiracy, some people talk about the smell, so to speak, in the language of traders, this is all an assumption, it is impossible to prove anything. well, but because everything is somehow strange, but i wanted it to be as normal as possible. and why, as you quickly know, this is not a simple issue. we even considered it at the committee, and you know what surprised me, i tell you frankly, i barely managed to persuade the special energy committee of such a kp to consider the issue of fuel and consider the issue of the heating season how did they

end, because i do not perceive the fact that they somehow heroically wintered there, that everything is wrong there, and i see huge risks, including for the future heating season under objective and of subjective songs, i was so surprised. i almost persuaded my colleagues, and more than that. well, they simply did not show any interest, that is, the logic is like this. i say guys, what do they say? and we are all the same . what are we going to do, so to speak , interfere with the government sorry, this is not appropriate, we see today obviously that it is not, to put it mildly , today a hyper super professional government together with hyper super professional managers of state companies starting from the same in oil and gas operator mts and other energy structures, that's it for me. well, management, you understand the key performances and how to make them understand that

they are under control, they are under control. today, we understand under the control of the president's office. but do we really have such powerful managers? excuse me. many questions today, war, we are all united, i don’t ask questions, how did you prepare? absolutely decentralized for fuel storage , it was necessary for me to approach it in a different way , and you could see some oil pipelines, you can see these mobile ones. by the way, the same thing. and we are waiting for gas, you understand, we will have to buy gas, as mr. vitrenko says and i don't understand in what way we can physically get it. 5 billion, as he calculated for some reason that we need to prepare, that's why these are the key issues

of management and control over the actions of the government. i can only tell you one thing. i know how the government works in quotes or does not work in all of them. countries of the world and in ukraine so if you lose control over it from the side of society, forgive her, it ends with the same thing and what i saw, for example, the same naftogaz, they are essentially a structure that does nothing today except that it transfers ukrainian gas to you and us, they paid for themselves for the past year, for 20 people, 911 million anorars is 4 million per month for one person in the personnel management of 20 people. you want to convince me that this is moral. you want to convince me that this is going forward. that is, i am not, i will not provide those estimates, you know, we do not understand the situation, i am not going to do so, you understand. so, this is looting in essence

and this salary is one 20th of what is made there , you understand, because there the main question arises . how is something in oil and gas managed managed managed paid themselves huge generals and as a result they ask, they say we need 189 billion uah from the budget for a moment, they want to ask from the budget, they say they have a deficit of 189 billion uah, think about this astronomical amount , that's why everything is wrong there we definitely don’t need it, you understand, we don’t need to pay for it and we don’t need to be validated, because this is our country, we need to use it, and you and i and all ukrainians need to pull out our families and understand how we will live in a week, in three months, and in a year. thank you, thank you, sir. oleksiy, well, extremely valid remarks, but all the same, if we go back to the history of sleeping fuel and gesem as such, pnevsky, in

your opinion, what steps could be honest and realistic and at the same time, what would allow you to avoid, you know, writing off everything to this market, this market in us in any situation. when this or that facap happens. in other words, someone entered into a conversation in a conversation, so to speak, unaccounted for with this or that oligarch, then everything in our country is written off to the market . there was a rather unpleasant thing going on in them. as far as i understand the dialogue regarding the resignation of the possible hetmantsev , yes, businessmen started to riot. i don't know what is behind it. well, but some processes. as far as i understand, not hello, but here the question is literally burning under the feet: the issue of gasoline and diesel fuel. let's start with the situation with hetmantsev, then

i have a question. why in business, well, they don't ask questions of the government, the government directly manifests, that is, the number of remarks that were made to him, this remark to the government and why they don't demand the resignation of shmigel, now it would be, to be honest, about objective because it is ineffectively managed due to the incompetence of the government, which is now very high. i understand that they want to close everything at the expense of our international partners, but otherwise international partners ask questions. excuse me as you wish accordingly, dispose of these funds, what exactly are you doing? because our army has shown that it can protect its motherland accordingly, and accordingly they were given weapons, that is, they deserved to receive help from the government. to do i think that therefore it is not necessary to cook one's own high i do not see in them the involvement of experts

who would allow me to give them advice a lot of advice was successful a month ago two months ago which should to do urgently, they were not done, in particular, for example, the zoning of ukraine based on the point of view of security and those problems that exist, such planning of ukraine did not happen now . which is currently located in lviv, they are all in the same legal field, this is not permissible because they are located, you know, different problems, they must be solved differently and, accordingly, different ones have legal there is no regulation to date. therefore, we need to involve experts in order to discuss the fuel, what needs to be done here, i will say. well , there are literally seconds left, so then the order is what they are doing according to the agreement with poland. this is good, but too late. that is, it should have been done for at least a month to discuss these logistical connections to get fuel and the second

point inside the country is to direct any measures that in order to reduce fuel consumption in ukraine, it should be any measures in including public transport, electric transport in any way, but so that the amount of fuel consumption in ukraine decreases, then accordingly, we can balance and have an adequate price and adequate consumption. thank you very much opanova ilya ne schadovskaya, director of the institute of social and economic transformation and oleksiy kucherenko, minister of housing and utilities of ukraine in the seventh and tenth years, a people's deputy of ukraine conducted a brilliant analysis of the current situation, unfortunately not overly optimistic, but we understand how much the situation is difficult, i will ask my editors to help us meet again on the air during the analysis of such things. i am now, and on eva melnyk will present the most important of today's information day palette