greetings, friends, i am in java, melnyk, the host of the espresso tv channel. in the morning of february 24, the russian nazis began their denazification of my city. the first enemy shells flew into our military town and the semenovych military unit. on the morning of the 24th, experience. so when they started bombing gostomel, i had to take my son, our grandmother, or a neighbor and we went to lviv, a picture from the first day of the war that was forever etched under the explosions under the siren. my child clung to our dog simba and cried loudly about everything, still asking for it. mom, i ask that you

not only did you survive and came to me, but also with our dog and my friend, not only did i survive and left brovary i fulfilled what i promised my child my name is diana chechenina and i have been working for espresso for 5 years i managed to evacuate from buchi where i i lived for a long time. i absolutely sincerely believe that this is the best and most beautiful city in ukraine. two shells hit my house and it caught fire. i almost lost my apartment, which was now looted by orcs . my road from buchi to kyiv took 9 hours on the roads from kyiv to lviv. it took even longer. i want to look at home is a pain in that we are not a substitute for many, but the main thing for us is what kind of water our

country is for our children. this country must continue to be free and when we are deprived of the risks of digital broadcasting, we become similar a little and it scares our enemy in russia. i am contacting the ministry of internal affairs, the truth of national security and defense, the national council for television and radio broadcasting, i am a journalist, i am a mother, i am ukrainian, i am staying in ukraine, i have no combat experience, but i can but i know how to fight and defeat the enemy in the information war. i ask you to restore the broadcast of the espresso tv channel in order to win this war together. president zelenskyi, put espresso back

on the air. let's protect the information front together. glory to ukraine glory to the heroes. my name is andrii sachuk . on the air of the espresso tv channel and look what i want to tell you. i want to tell you that we will still try to turn on the sumshchin. here in a minute, and in the meantime, i look into the chat and what did not make me laugh what made me laugh, friends, write some rinat gubaidulin, dear citizens of ukraine and the shield of objective news, don't trust your tv comrade er gubaidulin, we are very glad that you go to ukrainian tv channels and maybe learn a little bit about the losses of your er great invincible in to the feet of the army, and they are already approaching 30,000 killed, eh, i hope you will

tell this to someone. mr. dmytro good afternoon yes good afternoon actually we heard information that the russians fired artillery from russia from the border with russia russian territory from sumy sumy region sumy region tell me more what it was or is there any destruction of the victims there was an answer. maybe if it was. well, yes, this morning there were shellings of two communities in the zhostkin district in the north of the sumy region. there were two shellings, two shellings, that is shelling with rocket salvo rocket systems, and they were shelled. there were border settlements of the russian federation, such shelling has been going on in our

country for more than a month now, sometimes up to 10-15 shells are fired daily, during the day they are shelled from mortars, grenade launchers, heavy artillery, self-propelled artillery, howitzers, a volley fire system, fortunately, destruction today there are no victims, but such massive daily artillery attacks continue along the entire border and shelling from heavy grenade launchers and mortars. are responding to these shellings, we had two attempts to break through the state border by subversive intelligence groups from the russian federation, orcs tried to break through to us into ukraine, there were battles, battles were fought, their attempts to enter the territory of ukraine were repelled,

there was a firefight with all kinds of weapons. once, if our soldiers responded, they retreated and from that, too, fired artillery at russian positions on the territory of the russian federation, after which the shelling stopped. of course, thank you for your answer petro zhivitskyi thank you for taking the time, thank you, ah, the head of ova, in fact, of sumy, where today in sumy oblast russia was shelled again with their territory, uh, viktor chumak, the chief military prosecutor of ukraine in the 19-20s, general- the major is with us now , mr. viktor, have a good day. good afternoon, in fact, i would start right away with such a topic. wolseley journal published five possible scenarios for the

continuation of the war in ukraine . advisors of the ministry of internal affairs, he said that literally by the end of the summer, we must liberate all territories, he says that, on the contrary, it will be a very protracted war that can drag on for years, he followed five scenarios, i would very briefly i will denote the name literally the collapse of the russian federation, well, of course, it is full of tailors, some kind of their capitulation, where there is fragmentation, putin was sent to gaga or somewhere he ate something wrong, he was poisoned, er, the collapse of ukraine is also considered. for example, on the position of er or the beginning of the war, because even in the 14th year and eventually nuclear war escalation nuclear war, well, in your opinion, which one of these options looks the most realistic and which one will

ukraine hold on to? look, if they write interesting scenarios, then they basically give a justification each of these has a scenario, but the only thing that, in my opinion, is unrealistic is, in principle, the collapse of ukraine, because today there is no reason for it, and now the situation is such that we will fight. it is true that we will fight, but now is the time what and the price we will pay is another question. and as far as i am concerned, time and price depend very much on our partners, because we have to fight with something, we are almost now running out of all the stockpiles of weapons that we had, er, ours, that is, ukrainian soviet models of weapons and so on, we are switching to samples of weapons, ammunition, military equipment of nato standards , and now it will depend on the speed of the quantity and quality of supplies from the nato countries, from our

western partners, in order to end the war the war can be ended. well, i am not saying that it is fast. yes, but it is possible to end it in one term, it can end in another term, it is possible to end it in a shorter term if we get more powerful weapons. for me, that is such a marker that the west wants, in principle, to end the war as soon as possible. including ending the war through the victory of ukraine with such a marker. for me, it would be if the west handed us specific samples of weapons, i can now name them simply because of that, for what ukraine is it, first of all, operationally, tactical missiles and together with this, they are also a platform for reactive systems for sexual anger - this is chemosis . the possibility of conducting hostilities there, that’s the long-range, and

yet another thing. the second is the same rszv, but a little different, the track is a little smaller, it’s basically a living thing, which is called mlrs, that’s it, and they can shoot up to 120 km, and that’s also a serious enough weapon that can be third - this is most likely against ship e missiles, harpoons, which we are talking about. well, they can be like that. yes, in order to unblock the coast, unblock the transportation routes, especially ukrainian wheat grain, etc. not only the planes that can be obtained from the same of our e-e partners here from the countries of eastern europe, yes, what soviet ones are becoming, well, the old ones, and let’s say modernized such sums or coppers, and that’s it, we also talked about american ones, and i definitely wouldn’t be here

i wouldn't be a fantasist there, i wouldn't say there are any less than 16, like 18, yes. well, the 35th and so on. no, no one will give it, most likely. but the americans have quite simple ones and they were developed there a long time ago. but planes that are very they have proven themselves well, uh, cancer, yes. that is, it’s called a 10 pieces. a 10 field receiver, such a front one, is a 10 thunderbox, and that’s just in case, and there are a lot of them. i wish there was a scenario for a faster end to the war of the military victory of ukraine, he is suitable for me, but if you are talking about the island today. by the way, a very interesting article by dubinyansky appeared on the ukrainian newspaper and it is called putina. what does putin do as a politician, as

a player? in principle, he is fond of the game, and in order to play along, he always raises the stakes, and it is sufficiently grounded. there it was shown that a lot of people always raise the stakes . to ukraine, but received a loss again because he received urgent sanctions and so on. now he has climbed into ukraine again. having raised the rates even more, but now he is on the verge of being able to make a call again. i see only two opportunities here to raise e- eh stakes are two moves but this is the first move - this is a general mobilization and holy war and others and it is nuclear weapons so here and there and here and here and here i was just leading up to this yes, i was just making such an introduction so that, in principle, if we are talking about not a politician but a player

and the ludoman who, in principle, wants to increase the supply every time. he has very few moves left, that's one move. the reaction in russia yes, there are very few people who want to go to war, well, it is clear that those who are uh, military uh, go on a contract, that is understandable, but there is also such a thing that it is one thing to go on a contract to receive money and serve in russia, and another thing to go on contract and die somewhere in ukraine here, too, the motivation is not very strong, but the second and the second way out is nuclear. and that’s exactly what the western analysts understand, probably they pump all these options and so on. to be honest, uh few people can give a definite answer: no. when the war will end, not

some time. but how will the war end, and how will it legally end for putin? i will honestly tell you the only option that would satisfy everyone, in principle, is the death of putin. well, i could make a gift to the world. something, this putin is such a zealous person as it turned out, mr. victor, look, i am not a military man, and i have a question, if we were to make our strategy from the big cities, well , in general, the content of the fortresses, in fact, and so look, the russians took what in us with battles with incredible losses to irpina bucha and borodyanka, and on that they all blew up there, that is, they suffered such losses that everything was over and everything and more and more, in principle , took this is kherson . there were no battles for me. there are no acquaintances with kherson

instead of fighting for kherson, there was still a battle all day long, yes, what i am asking about is that they have a lot of time now to prepare as well in order to defend those cities that they want to capture, but with a small, small difference. the same city with our citizens in order to take them back, how is it, son, how to take them back absolutely exactly and you understand here i absolutely agree with you and ours now could even reach the same kherson with swords and hurricanes and hail but nobody no will shoot and even there they could reach kakhovka to any of the headquarters there, but you understand what the trick is in these e-e missiles, there are systems that directed that they are highly accurate and with these systems you can hit with aim on the logistics along the weapons supply routes to the means of supplying ammunition to warehouses of fuel and lubricants

to ammunition warehouses, that is, the situation here is such that we can simply, well, leave the russian troops without weapons, without ammunition, without fuel, in exactly the same way as we acted practically in irpeni and in bucheni also operated there, they operated in mobile groups, in small mobile groups that cut off the e-e columns that went with supplies , right there we can act in the same way. probably not the same, and therefore here we can act in e-e long- range systems . of fire, but there is one more nuance here. because we need high-precision intelligence here, there should be intelligence, which should be air radiation and any other, that is, the coordinates that we must receive in order to strike, this is enough high-precision systems, they must be absolutely accurate and reliable so that

we don't shoot like the russians at the toilets on the odessa beaches, well, that's it. i hope the americans can always provide us with uh. i want to touch on one more question here. uh-uh-uh, this is an editorial emphasizes the editorial of the new york times, to which everyone is already reacting strongly, in particular, timofii e milovanov wrote an article, this is an editorial, this is an appeal to biden, this is the most sarcastic liberal publication a publication that sympathizes with the democrats of the united states, which says that, well, how will it work here, beloved , he singled out two theses from the publication, the support of the united states is not unlimited, that is, do not expect that we will give you everything, and the f-35 and everything in the world, and maybe even high- mars and other things. that ukraine should seek a territorial compromise with russia, they do not believe that ukraine will be able to return to its borders before

february 24, the attack by russian russia on ukraine. said in fact, for the first time, he seems to have clearly outlined the goal of ending this war - it is the exit to the borders before the attack, that is, not even to win back the so -called lpr dpr not to return the crimea, but victory in the war. it is simply to knock them out to the borders that were before line of demarcation so that it was before their offensive, what do you think about it , why is this opinion being promoted? can it be a dangerous standard for ukraine? a dangerous standard. the news that she came out, i'm saying yes, expectations in ukraine are not realistic well, in principle , as they say there, please tell the citizens of america what america's goals are in this war and now they

are questioning what she said there, that we will be there with ukraine until victory they are questioning what i said, i have said so far that our goal is to inflict so much damage on russia that it cannot threaten anyone , and then these two theses that you have already said, as dynamo said. well, you understand the situation here what this is a skeptical view or a skeptical scenario of the development of these events, i say again we do not need nuclear weapons there in order to, in principle, make sufficiently large advances in military operations, yes, we need what i was talking about , high-precision weapons yes zi with all the things that will be given to us together with howitzers together with e-e with e-e kamikaze drones together with bayraktars together with e-e english wonderful blinstone missiles oh and everything

else . what were the borders on february 23, it is absolutely real. hmmm, it is absolutely real, in my opinion. it is absolutely real, and here they simply have a lot of skepticism, because you know , after all, there is one such phrase that russia ragged and a little beaten and senselessly spent the first stages of the war, but it remains a great military power, a nuclear state , but again, this is the fear of putin, a player, a player who will play to raise rates, he still remains in the brain in the editorial office in new york. here is the situation. i say that practice will show here. although i do not rule out that such narratives are now being promoted through the

agents of the fsb and the agents of russia, because this is not the first such story. you remember, but actually here it must be said that in principle we respect the new york times very much, not very much, i have no doubt that there are excellent journalists there, if it were a publication by some one there, some expert on some issues there okay, well, this is an editorial this is an editorial i agree with you i absolutely i agree, i'm not saying that they are simply unhappy agents, you just understand the promotion of such narratives, it can be and er, in a different way , it is very promotion they are still not er experts in the field of er, there military affairs yes this is a traditional article, that is, they met with a bunch of experts, they gathered expert opinions, and different experts could give it to them in different ways, and depending on which expert opinion was dominant there, most likely, this is what they

presented in this way because, well, i i definitely think not the journalists presented their position on this issue, or rather, the journalists presented it and the editors presented it, but all the same it was based on some expert discussions and on which expert opinions, because well , we know how such articles are written, yes, that is, the editors should get together and gather certain experts there in a state of chaos or something, they have to discuss all this and then , er, then, then, you will loot, but we see, i would just like to finish er, the thought, you understand, we see that it is the same in principle, but approximately the same narrator talks about the fact that look from italy, the impelisi have appeared in their er their er their vision how to achieve peace er in ukraine yes, there is a ceasefire, then all other negotiations begin and the russians throw into the public sphere a conversation about the fact that we are ready to sit down for negotiations,

but the ukrainians do not want to sit down, the pope says i am ready to go again. in this there is one point, and this point is called a cease-fire, the situation is such that it is certain that when we continue, this is how we exhaust russia with positional battles, even positional battles, then in a month it will be easier, you understand. if you stop now, there will be a truce and we will stop now and then, for sure we will go into a protracted conflict because there will be more time to prepare and more time to build fortifications of some kind and still let others down to set up logistics and still others now a rock climber - it is difficult i think that everything is directed towards these conversations. yes

, in the west, there about an immediate ceasefire, they are in principle submitted by russia already, or shall we say , inspired by russia, or directly or indirectly through agents of influence, because of the same thing, in order to establish these logistical connections ties and, in principle, do not allow the russian troops in ukraine to wear out even more, i absolutely agree with you, well, actually, there is one very important aspect here, the sources in the kremlin. well, not much. i don’t have time to discuss. may you want to respond, sources have repeatedly reported there, even with the russian douzes and so on , that they, from time to time, are already thinking about how they will stop this war, but they do not know how to stop it, because people like skabeeva and solovyov are already their main propagandists are already some kind of firebrands who stand and throw uh, and people don't know what the costs are in the war, well, anyway, it's all already on the 17th, when speaking, they said that we

have no hatred for ukrainians and ukraine, and they hate us something very beautiful reduce the nightingale and simply return the record, they will say something else and they will believe it. this is a different question. the question is how to return this record in putin's head, because if he is definitely a player, if he is definitely a player, then he is also this, and by the way, this was also said in the new york times it was said that he simply does not perceive the possibility of his defeat, well , that means it will be this plate together with the head. so it must be turned upside down somehow so that it is in pieces. good mr. viktor thank you very much for this conversation viktor chumak was with us is live at the marathon that is ongoing on the espresso tv channel well , in the meantime, i am pleased to introduce you to our next guest, another guest here is olena vasstrova, she is a psychologist, my colleague is also a journalist, mrs.

olena, good day. good day, congratulations, i am not writing. i congratulate you. i will try to go in yesterday, it was done by maria gurska, we entered the air together with her, today she is not there, or she just has very important things to do, and i actually wanted to say that i will try to go to such a sensitive territory for me, where i do not feel very confident, exactly from some gender-related things, for sure, but this is the territory of a complex history of mass rapes that take place in occupied or liberated territories, and these stories are being revealed. well, i was very impressed, i was very impressed by denisa's message and the fact that she records dozens of call reports per day uh, from people who experienced, in particular, sexual violence from uh, soldiers of the

russian army, and here i would like to say that this is a very difficult question. i know that you just work with him and we understand. i just understand what it is. the very tip of the iceberg is the very tip of the iceberg because you really need to have incredible mental powers of some kind in order to tell about this to inform the official and this most likely means that it must be multiplied by 10 times, maybe more than this story actually as a first of all to treat these stories that cause obvious rage how is this possible in the 21st century how is this possible with us as what do you do when dealing with stories like this treat

rape as war crimes this should put so much there it's not about sex, it's not about sexuality it's not about men's femininity or any gender issues it's war crimes and that's right these rapes should be viewed in this way uh-uh these are extremely difficult stories it's true rape victims don't want those who suffered from it or suffered not only women and girls, but also boys and men uh, they don't have uh, no trust, enough, uh, any courage to contact us. now we will try to re- recruit. we are talking about a very complicated topic, very complicated about mass rapes, i will also briefly tell you that

in fact, people who study the history of world war ii in particular, for them, the behavior of russians or russian christians is not strange to them, they do not want to call them in the occupied territories, since they have always distinguished themselves in this, there is evidence that for a very long time they were blocked and prohibited, in fact, about mass abortions, in particular, in occupied germany on the mnd and then, which became the territory, which were carried out by the russian military there, even sometimes it reached to the point that they raped, for example, prisoners released from nazi concentration camps. that is, these are fantastic things that simply do not fit into the tin, which is called so we see other sides and it is very important why it is very important to talk about these things, well , somewhere it actually broke through, that is, there was a film

ah, it seems fazber, don’t wait, was it a movie, uh, tin drum, where actually these scenes were rapes by russian soldiers, uh, by a german director, maybe god, god, god, god, give me memory now. someone will surely write in the chat, because sooner knows how i would, i already watched this company a long time ago. well , in any case, it's like gunter grass. yes, the novel is for the nobel prize laureate, but we had the screen adaptation. okay , we already have everything. can you hear us? yes, i'm fine. let 's continue then, actually, how can we, what can we do, how can our society, our state help these people, well, first of all, this is a crime and any crime should be