when your task is to lead the country to victory, this is the cause of my life, you do everything in your power for this, we approach this issue very, very specifically, we congratulate general valery , the hardworking life of our ukrainian citizens is the highest value under his wise command, making the impossible possible in order to man consumed the armed forces of ukraine are destroying the second army of the world i want to ask our people to believe in the alkaline and believe in the armed forces of ukraine glory to the heroes glory to ukraine and you what is the result and the last point the european union even to the eu we we use different ways, different approaches, because people are different, with russia and with this war, there is one course, one way, and one understanding of everything that is ready, therefore it is

clear why politics and war and values, and surely time also changes people, uh, they change and leave leave you, volodymyr oleksandrovich, i just want to go back to the war and i want to remember when you asked me for others, so please tell me. yes, i don’t think that your last name is just one out of sync. you say that politics changes people, and mrs. elena says that you have not changed. is it a waterman? maybe i a politician is just well, you are not up to the end of politics. i feel like the president for sure. this is a great answer. i think this is even your big plus , are you not up to the end of politics? it seems to me that right

now, when there is a war in the country, i think it is a very big plus that they are up to the end of politics, but let's go back to the time when you became a politician. i remember very well the words of volodymyr oleksandrovich when you stood on the rostrum of the verkhovna rada and said that we did not start this war, but we have to end it, but then you believed that it could be ended diplomatically today, when there is a large-scale war and a terrible war and terrible destruction, it is clear that this will not happen and we will not win this war diplomatically, we will win it only on the battlefield when you first understood it, when you felt it and why we will not win it diplomatically when i this felt if it is possible, i will not answer this question for you today, how exactly do i understand when this understanding came to me and exactly what choice i made and exactly what i have become how to relate and what i was preparing for and that's why i i believe that this is not an answer for today.

however, the meaning of the words that you just said or mentioned has changed, and we did not start it. it is true, but we should not end the war. i can repeat these words today. it is all true, but the meaning is different . we didn't start it, and that's true, but we have to finish it, i really thought that it was possible to finish a purely purely dialogue, now i understand that the ending will also be a diplomatic ending itself, but unfortunately, i thought that this is a dialogue that has a suitable term, that in this dialogue it is possible will be to find answers to many questions and many solutions with the russian side, i really thought so, but now it’s like a car, not a gasoline one, not an electric car

, a hybrid, that’s why the war is so difficult, and victory will be very difficult, it will be bloody, it will definitely be in battle, but the ending will definitely be in diplomats, i am sure of this because there are some things that we will not be able to complete except at the negotiating table, because we want to return everything. and if we go back to those days before the war, i remember that you were a little nervous when western intelligence so persistently recommended preparing for an invasion and said that everything would be very difficult, you said listen, let's not panic we have

everything under control you really did not believe that a war will begin, we lived in a war yes, we lived in a constant war, it was completely hybrid and even before this moment there were many attacks, we understood from which territories i mean cyber, yes, etc. you remember we hacked various sites and to the national bank and the ministry, i no longer want to talk about the law enforcement agencies and our intelligence. what was happening, what was the pressure, it was long before the start of the full-scale invasion of russia into ukraine, and we understood that preparations were taking place, and the volume or the volume or the impudence on the result of what we saw with you, no one understood a-a-a-a- until the end yes and it's one

thing if you understand that tanks will definitely come from belarus, and another thing that starts with well is that russia will go everywhere in belarus to attack you yes a it's another matter when missiles specifically fly from belarus, yes, that is, there is such a difference, but it seems that it is small, that they warned or there were messages that from that side an offensive technique could begin, but the difference is big: who are you fighting, with whom are you fighting with these or those forces and by means that a-a on the territory of belarus that pass everywhere in belarus to ukraine or you have with two countries the devil is in the details because no one until the end what happens until the end no one knew this is all a lie what kind of intelligence do you want do we have intelligence

they didn't say the details, no one knew the whole thing, everyone was preparing for various events, we had our own preparation, and the different development of different countries of our partners had their own preparation and their own warnings, and no one had more details than we knew and than we possessed no one had anything more than what we were told about, and approximately even well, such a hybrid, well , you can talk to us about it. to be honest, for hours as it happened, i would start hearing this conversation and about this offensive from the month of october. if i'm honest, i i think so too how did we prepare and what was happening, what were the messages and what were the first steps, economic

finance, cyber blocking, the shortage of gasoline, how did the reduction in the amount of energy carrier in, etc., a lot, i started in september, so, although in principle it is fair to start from the 14th year the headquarters suggested no invasion. i believe that this is all such an art, a hybrid art of shelling, it is still in the fall, but a large-scale offensive began in the morning of the 24th, and i would like to ask you two, do you know when ukrainians meet now, and the first question i asked was where you were war where were you what were you doing one on kilimanjaro the other two in mexico - the third at home i don't know i got a call from work and you know i went to the machine to make coffee at four in the morning because war is war and you have to drink coffee, would you remember this four in the morning 24 two tell the first emotions the first call we weren't on kilimanjali

we were in the mitryka yes, i, too, i was at home too, if we were all at home, who among the ukrainians had not even been there are such uh well, it's four in the morning usually we, well, i don't have coffee cooking usually it's like that and well, i remember that i woke up from strange noises outside the window, like everyone else, apparently the topic was almost night then and i looked to see that volodymyr was not there. i went to the next room and did not find him. he was already dressed in a suit, but she was already without a tie. i understood what i asked. what is happening, he said, it has only just begun, well, emotions cannot be conveyed because you are numb and numb, and he told me this and

left, in principle, we can no longer say that we have seen each other for a long time, and to be honest, i understand that how long ago moment he was like a taut string we are all one, it immediately became clear that, in principle, life has changed forever, and now i live for when he finally tells me it's all over, the victory is over. yes, i think it's possible that i won't be the first person he tells this to, because he's always at work right now, but together with others, i want to hear it, at least through television , you will say it, i am sure of it, we will wait for you to speak through them, all the information goes through television from the boys, we heard it, yes, it is true, i was already elena, you are absolutely right, i was already

ready, i went out, uh, i got and calls to clappers which we heard, we received, i received a signal, a little earlier, when the island even started, even a little earlier, for sure, yes, when the preparation begins, that is, we were ready for this, and some time ago, the intelligence was watching, we were watching kovi, we understood where the risk of an attack might come from , so immediately when did the preparations start, hmm, a shot for the return, here we are. i received a signal , they called me, i arrived, they remember only one thing that i basically said everything that i said, you have to explain to the children that it's normal, because it's not a war you don't have to invent anything because everyone has to

understand how to behave because he can do everything, what are we doing very late, i came home, i remember because we had a meeting, it seems to me that the national security and defense council met yes, we discussed and these issues will all be prepared together, all the papers and the structure of what we will do, we understood that if it starts , how should the state work as one organism . the bank can some things were done in advance. as for the state reserve, etc., that is, everything was safe. let 's just say that we understood the risks, and therefore the

structure was clear. i think it was the day before . what i think it seems so, i don't remember now honestly how i explained to the children yes , i had to explain something when they were woken up at four or four in the morning and said to us as a case, let's collect things, but they somehow surprised me. well, i tried to be energetic and cheerful , as if nothing of the sort happened and they somehow they followed all my instructions in a disciplined manner, gathered quickly, and then, after some time, the understanding comes that we don’t know when we will see dad again, and there were tears like that, uh, several times, but still, they hold on. well done, uh, how do i know, dad that he will endure, he will

endure, mr. president, we already talked about february 24, and how prepared we were in a military sense for that day, because i, for example, live in buchi, it was a surprise to me how quickly russian troops ended up in buchi, in fact, there are several kilometers to the border of the city, we were ready for this from the point of view of the volume of forces used by the russian federation, and using absolutely everything, even using reserves , using this, you know, quietly, we call it quiet mobilization, it was not loud, it was for some reason that mobilization is when there is a war, they could not declare war to us, they said a military operation, that is why we know that there was a silent

mobilization , etc. in terms of directions, the only place where we did not see an increase in great transnistria, and also we saw all this along the borders, nothing new happened, it was as it was when there was training, then they concentrated such a number even a year before that, so it did not increase, it left rotations came , etc. it's really such a large volume. i think that today no country in europe has coped with such a volume, that they entered and uh. look, uh, it's difficult to evaluate today, although the military is, in principle, the military and analysts always said if it will be a full-scale invasion, why, in

principle, is ukraine not ready for a full-scale war with the russian federation, because we are simply 28 times smaller in terms of territory, although at the same time the country is large and when you are attacked by a large army, you must not concentrate your forces around for example, in kyiv, you need to look and ensure that, no matter how many air defense systems there are, tanks, bmp vehicles , the military, most importantly, professional military personnel, which are very different. they understand it, the alarmists themselves, that's why all this number of people all this amount of equipment is like i'm sorry, the comparison is like well, how is it smeared because all these territories it's like that anyway because we need such a territory according to our numbers we need an army no 250,000 or 260,000 and there were 120,000 fighting men.

yes, that's the first decree. oh, i don't remember. at the beginning of the 22nd year, when i saw all the specific numbers, we have money, no money, but + 100,000 for the next year it was my decree, but even plus 100,000 would not have been able to stop them that is, today we understand that today it is 700,000 , here you see the result of the work of 700,000 people who are fighting 700,000 that is, well, that is all to defend such a territory but nevertheless, this is at the time of war, yes, this is what happened, so i think that yes indeed and if we had if we were let's just say i don't want to discuss the

issue of nato in depth now i mean but there are too many countries there are appropriate weapons there are patriots etc. mine lost to things and papa, etc. and people began to run, you know , there was such a small chaos of cars and traffic jams of cars were thrown, it was all helping the enemy and not the other way around . was it possible to prepare for this war? i think that we were well prepared. they did not know about many things and then they received all this and we all understood. yes, i want to finish my opinion. so , even with increased volumes, all the analysts said, look at the whole format of the

army and equipment that is in ukraine, they will come in a couple of days, why did everyone say that what for in two or three days, they will capture us, they will be able to capture us because this analytics was known to military analysts, they will have to review their manuals, believe me, everything is prepared and we understand everything so deeply that our american partners, when they receive our needs from us, understand exactly what we understand this in detail, but it is big, big, you understand, big, big money, not only for re-equipment, that is, you and i need to switch from all soviet weapons to switch completely to nato models, and if you are a non-nato country, how do you you can do it if they don't give you a license, they don't

sell anything. this was all before the war, that's why i had to say that they don't want to quote some of our partners, then what raids, i raids, and the cops. no digging trenches, you can't do what we did, it's impossible to dig , just dig trenches because it is impossible to win the war and win, they told us to ignore it, they told us to give them weapons. thank god that i am rather talking about the fact that now american military analysts are talking about the need to reevaluate their work system, because it is only one of several american intelligence could have predicted the frantic resistance of the ukrainians and the fact that russia will not go any further, since we have already talked about the war today, we have such a private interview, we have such a quick conversation, but i cannot help but ask about mariupol, what can be said now about the fate of our defenders, because this the point that everyone is following and i understand that there are many

reasons for the safety of these people, but if something can be said, only one thing can be said that they are absolutely heroic people, not forgetting that everyone is there and the national guard is there in addition to the national guard, everywhere they said that there are only national guardsmen, i want to emphasize that, with all due respect, there are 400 border guards, many were wounded and killed, but 400. there were also a large number of national guardsmen, paratroopers separately, and there are also policemen, even representatives of the security service of ukraine, there are a large, large number of absolutely medics, ordinary military medics people, and local people, and that's why there are a large number of heroic people, that's why i'm talking now about the fact that all

these people are absolutely heroic, how did it happen, what happened there, this hmm one question they defended mariupol, a very large number of people died , and our pilots. unfortunately, heroic, absolutely heroic people who knew that it was difficult, knew what to fly to, were killed. it is almost impossible to fly to australia and bring them, bring them medicine , bring food and water, take away the bodies of the wounded, all this happened a lot of things happened that absolutely no one could officially comment on why because there was no corridor of air

corridors before azovstal because of their powerful right and russian to deploy held we didn't just say that give us the sky help us close us it's not like that all these conversations are not that we are afraid of airplanes although they are dangerous but you and i saw they were also afraid to fly because they were losing the question was not only in airplanes it was you their pvv problem was in their missiles in many ways and that's why you can't just go to mariupol, you just can't stay there for a large number of weeks, pilots on rotorcraft knowing that 90% of them don't come back imagine what these people did, they flew there, we lost a lot of pilots just is people who flew, let's give them food, water, weapons and took away the wounded, a lot of people were lost. well, a lot of people.

they are absolutely heroic, that's why i, and when we talk about mariupol, i also want us to talk about everyone and what's next. as of today, all civilians have been taken out , those who were blocked at the plant, and the evacuation of other civilians who were near the plant or who were in mariupol, it started a long time ago, the civilians will be taken to us, the medics will be taken out, the seriously wounded will be taken out, the wounded will be taken out, at this moment when we are talking with you, i know that the export is also taking place. it seems to me that in the near future, not even in a few days, i think the export of all will be completed at some point. well, let's see, and the structure is complex. we agreed that the

unblocking would be handled by intermediaries. western partners. i negotiated with turkey, switzerland, israel, first with france because of relations leaders with the russian federation, when we saw that it is impossible to unblock by military means, although i will be honest, believe me, well, i don't know tens of hundreds of times, i spoke in detail with the leaders of other states. provide me with the appropriate accordingly, weapons to our military so that we could reach mariupol by military means because of the morass of blocking these people and the people who are still ready to go were ready to go, they were also 90% sure that they may not return there, an absolutely large

number of people are so heroic who wanted to help as much as possible, well, there is what is today, the turnip guys from the military received a signal that they have the full right, the full right to leave and save their lives, the military, the military command, they conveyed all this to everyone the name of the mediator was blocked along with those countries that i asked you about, that i told you about. well, there were representatives of the oun. we negotiated with the general secretary butyremshim, and that's all for today. from the fact that the united nations, the red cross, and the

russian federation assumed that they will all be safe and will expect one or another format of exchange , that is, for today, i think this is how the process will end, which is managed by intelligence today . the removal of the removal and preparation for the dialogue before the exchange of what it is about what you uh when we ask the question are uh only by military means or are there some or other diplomatic steps or war and that is why there are cases where diplomacy also needs to work we will take them home, this is what we must do, together with the three partners who took responsibility, well, about diplomacy, if you mentioned, you have repeatedly expressed your willingness to meet with vladimir putin, what is the purpose of this meeting. do you believe that this

a meeting can end the war. i think depending on the moment when we will meet, the goal changes, just like a hybrid war, so honest, a hybrid will be peace and hybrid meetings, for example, i want us to meet today. by the way, the issue of mariupol would also be an apology if we meet in two months, three, this issue may not be there, it may not be yet, we don't know , it may be partially, etc., at the very beginning, if we met, we understand what position ukraine was in. if we meet today, we we know what is occupied and what is de-occupied. if we meet in two months, we don't know what state everything will be in. well, here we can predict what we will do and predict what the result will

be. about reality , reality is today, here and now, and that is why it is necessary to resolve the issue regarding exchange regarding deoccupation and regarding peace to stop the war, here is the whole agenda, and it was like that in the beginning. that is, it was not so specific, probably because it was not specifics in the results of the current war today, when are there any specifics, we understand these or other threats, risks, how many people are there, many things depend on us, but also many things depend on russia, without talking to them, we should then simply state the result in which it was we got here well, we are standing, waiting or shooting now, tomorrow, for example, the artillery

covered us, they retreated the day after tomorrow, they went forward again oh-oh-oh that's why the question is the question. we have a desire and we have our own goals. we want to end this war, but how will it happen? when will it happen? it depends on exactly. from now on, when there will be a conversation with putin, i think that there will definitely be a conversation between ukraine and russia. we don't know in what format , with mediators without mediators in the broad circle at the level of the president of bailerow. if it was a two-way conversation or in a wide circle well, looking. for example, i will give you such an example, do i talk a lot? no, i don't talk a lot.