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in aid in exchange for giving up russian oil , i quote, almost insolent, why are they resisting so much hungarians and against this embargo supported oleksandr kraev, he is an expert of the foreign policy council of ukrainian prisma, he joins our conversation mr. oleksandr good morning glory to ukraine glory to the heroes good morning so in your opinion, why is hungary in no hurry to give up russian energy carriers? it does it so publicly. economic component well, it is true that hungary was very dependent on russian oil about russian elements in hungarian politics made it as dependent as possible on the russian economy in general so now it is a purely political bargain hungary remained the last country that it is necessary to convince whether these sanctions should be

accepted, so imagine how much it is, well, let's talk cynically, how great an opportunity it is in order to trade its decision to trade this support and carve out new preferences for itself. hungary knows very well how the european bureaucracy works, precisely the principle of consensus and gave it the opportunity here is to do what she did, but in the last week i often repeated that the europeans will invent a new mechanism, the so-called adoption, separate adoption or adoption in turn when the country that can support the document signs it in its entirety, and the country that cannot signs such points that it can fulfill and it seems that this plan will now start working. to orban the trump cards he would have if the principle of consensus remained well, it must be said right away that despite the position of hungary, it is still not the main

client of russian gas and russian oil here from the european countries rather, we should look at the netherlands, which, for example, china pumps out 31% of all russian oil, and the netherlands would seem like a small country, almost 20, and at the same time, the netherlands was one of the first to support the full oil embargo, so even without hungary, but this embargo is already a huge victory for us. orban is left alone without his main political trump cards and without the support he has among the population, because the europeans have already promised that there will be no money from brussels next year, well, but i personally am surprised by such the position of the netherlands, it would seem that they are far away from russia, hungary is not so far away. hasn't the situation in ukraine shown that putin oversteps , in particular, through his associates when he has some crazy idea and tries to implement it , in fact, you just have to look at it what alternatives does orbán have, that is, let's not talk

about the whole of hungary, here we again turn to the actual political interests of specific individuals in the context of orbán, whom he can join with brussels remembers how he is literally dictatorial pushed the laws through the supreme court and approved both official political censorship and the almost unlimited rule of his own party in fact, urban has become a pariah for the region of central-eastern europe and in general for the european union, therefore there are simply no more options for him, but simply from the point of view of orbán as an individual politician, he simply has no one to turn to to resist more, but how can europe now ? let's say so, to incline is probably not the right word, but at least to change this rhetoric in hungary. well, in fact, you and i have already discussed the main

methods . incomplete voting, i.e. voting for individual items of the sanctions package, is it already being done, and secondly, to remind orbán of all his previous sins , that is, to also mention the problem, as you and i said, with the supreme court, to raise problems with the political censorship and literally brussels has already done it too, and when he said that next year there will be no money from brussels, you need to understand what this money is going to, this money is going to the development of agricultural areas for hungarian farmers, it is better for that stratum of the population, well below or average income that usually votes for orbán, who in the last election gave him an absolute majority, that is, in essence, the europeans not only leave hungary without money, but also leave orbán without the support of the aga voters, that is, is there such a relationship or not orban will remain with such rhetoric that he will

not have the support of europe at all, and whether his policy will not simply lead to the fact that hungary will also gradually find itself in some kind of isolation. temporary isolation for hungary will indeed be created, but it must be understood that well if there were already talks about hungarian exit, well, about hungary's exit from the eu or about internal isolation , it should be understood that hungary is not economically and politically in a state to completely break away from europe now, but it is also not in a state to completely tear it apart relations with russia, therefore, in essence, the task that the european union has obviously set before itself is to slowly, step by step, sector by sector, party by party, drag the hungarians closer to the european common family and the european common policy, and so far such first steps as we with you, they said split voting, refusal of funding, political pressure on a par with economic pressure, they are already showing a large part of the

opposition to a large part of the population where hungary should actually be, namely in the european union a will they try to convince the body, or is it still more effective now to look for, let's say, strong allies among the politicians who are opposed to orbán? what do you think? well, actually convincing orbán is something from a series of fictional literary characters because, as you and i have already said, it's just, well, no fits into orbán's policy, it doesn't fit into his image, it doesn't fit into his image, it's obvious, how can we judge political plans, so one way or another, the european union is using its old tried-and-true tactics, it's trying to work with to the population, that is, to give the population certain penifics or to take them away, showing that your current leader is behaving incorrectly, and precisely because of the pressure on the population, there will be attempts, relatively speaking, to change the government in the next elections. supports whether or not he will seek

a rapprochement with putin and moscow and he will but here it is. we return to your first comment. i would say very correctly that despite putin, who shows his alleged strength allies, he will cross over them, it will not be the union that will actually give hungary long-term advantages, it can help for the next heating season, okay, it can give their politicians some additional earnings or some political capital, good, but strategically, russia ceases to be thought out even for its partners and a responsible business partner, that is, you simply cannot rely on russia one way or another, and everyone understands that. international politics, here we see this ultimatum of hungary. then there was the ultimatum of turkey. if we talk about the accession of finland and sweden to nato,

what will happen next? to understand that yes, they give ultimatums then and we will give an ultimatum, as you think, in fact, this is a trend and a trend, and it is quite expected, because we are currently at what is called a bifurcation point. that is, it is not it is simply a point not to return to the old system of international relations and international security. and this is the point of creating a new system, this is the point of creating new rules of the game. if you want, this is exactly the moment when politicians who profess realism and who do not lose , as our politicians like to say, and they can use it and in fact yordagan is a perfect example of a politician who deals with such matters , the same orban and so on. and many other countries will do it in the future because a window of opportunity has opened. that is, there are no longer those regulators that used to be

worked, but the new regulators the systems that did not allow them to behave as they did have not yet been worked out and not yet created, that is, now everything is purely based on individual agreements on the go. more often yes, because there is simply an opportunity and when such regulators can be created and to what extent it depends on how events in ukraine will develop further , absolutely directly because in fact what is now showing by the way, biden's policy is his asian what do johnson's recent statements and his nato elevator show, and the war in russia against ukraine is not just a conflict there in russia against ukraine, sorry for the repetition, this is a geopolitical conflict, it is essentially a war of autocratic regimes, that is, china, russia, partly india against democratic regimes, and in the context of our question, this means what rules

of the game will still win the rules of the game of the personal rigid military-oriented policy of autocrats or the rules of the game of international law systems and international cooperation that profess democracy to hope that it is the second thank you, thank you for this conversation, oleksandr kraev, expert of the council of foreign policy, ukrainian prisma, and then to ukrainian politics, talk more precisely about oleksandr vilkul, let's listen to his interview later, i will remind you when the deputy prime minister of the times yanukovych was headed by him, or rather, he was the deputy head of the opposition bloc faction in the parliament at the time, but after the full-scale russian offensive on ukraine, he was appointed to the position of head of the military administration of kryvyi rih this is the hometown of president volodymyr zelenskyi. how and why did oleksandr vilkul’s political views change? he told us about our travels and where to look, oleksandr. i want to explain to the audience in general where we are now. this is

an outpatient clinic that i understand has just been opened after restoration. can you please? to tell how the war affected the life of the city and, in particular, such projects, because as far as i know, it should have been put into operation earlier, the war destroyed our plans, but it did not destroy our life. the first thing that we were able to put into operation was to open it at the beginning of the war last year, an hour ago, and we started the reconstruction of a family-type dispensary in the dolgintsevo district, which serves 12,000 people who were infected. according to the plan, we were supposed to put it into operation completely after a lot of major repairs with soap and equipment again and the laboratory in april month well, now we are introducing it with a delay of one month, but what is the most important thing in fashion, of course, the war completely changed our life, that is, any questions related to capital repairs with

road grading and reconstruction of microdistricts well, with many of the things that we planned to do, all plans are postponed until after the war, that is, today the city budget is sufficient to support the functioning of the entire infrastructure in our country. transport that is free for everyone and for both residents of the city and for the military and for refugees, of whom almost 10% of the city's population is already refugees for all free e-e plus e-e functioning of all medical grow this for

garages and for the military. such nonsense, the final version, therefore, of course , we have put it into operation, and it will fulfill its function of serving the residents of the city and refugees, as we call them, the new crooks who live here, and that's exactly what the issue of refugees. as you said, they are already about ten percent. what is the situation in the city with refugees? how does the city accept and take care of them ? we already have almost 60,000 refugees, and these are refugees from the donetsk region and from luhansk and from nikolaev from kharkov . больше половы это беженцы с херсонская область in the kherson oblast, the front line is passing today. it's very dangerous there, plus the occupied territories, we had an unsuccessful request for the government's humanitarian corridor, the humanitarian corridor was

it was agreed upon by the government on murovane, but the orcs disrupted it. our convoy chased down communal buses, six of our city ambulances drove up to the first checkpoint, the orcs stole the leader of the column, fired at the column and covered themselves with the column as a shield. больше 100 km и люди выбираются как могуть из этого русского мира , which in fact adam turned out to be someone on the paths on bicycles. people on bicycles reach the checkpoint leaves the bicycle and goes to our side i already board our communal bus and we take someone to the city on a wheelbarrow this is such a real thing wheelbarrows take away old people take away small children and well, i was just here in

i brought them to one of these places on wheelbarrows, and i am asking you. they left at eight in the morning, they say, but it was already four o'clock in the afternoon, that is, the whole money is somewhere on tractors, somewhere in the literal sense of the word, that is, it is not a metaphor. to our shore ingultsa through the fords somewhere on tractors somewhere on cars are breaking through, that is, people want to leave as much as possible , the sealed parts, we all accept those who want to go further there to western ukraine, to europe, we provide medical assistance, we give products and food there are evacuation trains, and we deliver them there, too, everything is organized at the station and trains, everything ukrzaliznytsia works well, they are big, well done, and we send them , but in the city, as i already said, there are about 60,000 left, many of them in those places of compact living that we created, this

is a school, this is a kindergarten, we put beds and folding beds, bought mattresses. people live there, we feed them three times a day, of course, naturally, uh, as much as we can from refugees, we integrate uh into the life of the city. we already have more than 100 doctors and teachers who work in our communal er, in schools, kindergartens, hospitals, there are a lot of er, qualified workers, first of all, this is mariupol, who find work at our mining processing plants at arcelormital we do not call refugees refugees refugees, we call them new crooks and try to do everything so that they feel that they are at home, one country , and ukrainians must help ukrainians, in particular, and workers are coming to you for the last time, workers from azov steel medical complexes named after ilcha from mariupol yes, of course, on the financial side, who takes the main such a significant contribution spends

specifically for refugees, is it the city budget or volunteers help more well of course maximally this is the city budget let's go well let's be objective tens of thousands of people are fed there every day, but there is a lot of help from volunteers, and international funds help, and we are grateful. regarding the defense of the city, can you tell us how it is going now, or whether it is already in its final stage? during this time, the city has prepared quite well, in your opinion. and in general, how do you complete the territorial defense, if you can? it’s natural to say that, well, we began to strengthen the defense from the first day after the invasion, we had the first few weeks of the most difficult, the most dangerous when the enemy i came very close to the city when the fighting was going on for a few weeks, it was almost very close to the very border of the city, we are an industrial city, plus i still have 15 years of experience in the

industry, here are the working specialties to the first manager, we know how to manage it, it works for us every day more than a hundred, one of the heavy equipment , this excavator and wheeled and tracked bulldozers and a mountain, everything that is necessary, we are building defenses, we are digging in. we have already built them, i will not say the exact number, but dozens of lines defense and this the work does not stop after the courage of our soldiers, the bravery of the ukrainian army, the border line, the contact line, the front line was moved from kryvyi rih. that after the start of a full-scale war, in particular, arcelormittal completely stopped, what is the general situation with enterprises in kryvyi rih now, practically all enterprises are in a terrible state

we have almost completely stopped, er, the resumption of the work of enterprises has begun, we work with everyone, we work individually to what is needed, we help somewhere new logistics chains of raw material supply somewhere new production sales chains somewhere energy many questions arise today , most of the large enterprises work in volumes of 40-70%. from the power, from the fact that they worked before the war, and this is already victory, this is already our common victory, and because this is work - this is the employment of people, this is the salary, this is the life of the city in in the end, the analogy to the budget, the analogy of the budget and the pool, the projectiles with which we must be enemies, eh , small business, medium business, too , we stimulate as much as possible in order for the whole economy to work, this economy

is in any case, the blood system of the state kryvyi rih is the small homeland of president volodymyr zelensky what do you think is that the enemy can seize kryvyi rih for some political reason, and in particular the fact that it is a really large industrial center of ukraine ? volodymyr aleksandrovich zelensky, our president is our countryman, he will die. i am very courageous, he is a symbol of the warring ukraine, and we are always grateful that the orks are in the head, which is the main motivation for them. maybe we cannot say that kryvyi rih is the largest industrial center of ukraine. they were in war . we have always been there at least 10% of the domestic product. and now, after the war, after the resolution of industrial cities, such as mariupol, kharkiv is partially destroyed, other cities are at least 20%. kryvyi rih will be the fifth part. the gdp of our country is the second most important factor - kryvyi

rih today is the gateway to central ukraine for the russian group that crawled out of crimea. well, it occupied the kherson region, that is, we are standing on the way . this is also an important factor. there is work in your head. well, who can say that, and do you communicate with mr. zelensky at all? maybe he is asking how my little motherland is doing and is somehow interested in more uh, such personal questions, they will give commentators. okay, but do you communicate at all? count comments give clarifications you said in several of your interviews that at the beginning of the war, in particular, zakharchenko , the former minister of internal affairs, called you, and in particular tsarev wrote to you, and everyone saw that i wrote to you publicly, to all telegram channels, this is the whole video, in your opinion, why they in general, they decide to

communicate with you in some way, to write to you, to call, what do they hope for, in general, the motivation, i think that they are many in the south-east of ukraine, that's exactly where the aggression was fought, the south-east is there in some way, they tried to er communicate er in there who knew whom and she was here that's why they wrote and so on and so on and everything was obeyed and that's the end of it, that is, they in your opinion maybe you have some other colleagues in ukraine who also they wrote , in particular, some former regional officials who are now also a-a in power and they also wrote you don't know such other people. i think you better clarify the ego of the others. okay, when you realized that russia is really the enemy of ukraine, what became this catalyst is that russia e- the enemy of ukraine is clear since the 14th

years ago, when the aggression in donbas began, but i was among those who did not believe that russia would start a full-scale war there in the center of europe in the 21st century, and they behave worse than the nazis during the second world war, they bomb peaceful cities and kill children there, at the same time i do not i understand what's on their mind. hm, so it was a surprise for you . yes, you ran for president in 2019. your campaign program, in particular, was written. in general, you are in favor of possible membership of ukraine in nato, and i believe that ukraine must join nato without a doubt. that is, yes, at that time i

believed that ukraine should become a member of the european union , but from the point of view of security, because of the number of huge military blocs around e- well, i was a supporter of the model there of sweden, finland , switzerland, i was still a supporter of such a model . moreover, i was sure that it was correct and there were effective models in the world, but russia is aggressive in this respect. completely changed the picture of the world, imagine sweden, i already want more than 200 summer tramlets after karl, they haven't flown for 20 years, finland, and this is right this trashy and unpredictable, incompetent

neighbor is some kind of arkostan, especially the ideology that they are made of, created over the last 20 or so years, well, on the contrary , it provokes everything they don't do that, but that's what they have. that's the same. well, that's not christianity. it's a--a ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------. this is the perception of the victory in the second world war, plus the rites of worship of the nuclear button, and the nuclear button realistically acts as god in the role of god . well, this is the wild mix that they have been

chasing for 20 years. 160 million of its population were zombified there in fact, when there is a very dangerous neighbor who will be dangerous even after our victory, then lunata will step in, this is an effective pu. in fact, there is no mayor in kryvyi rih now after the death of mr. pavlov, and after our victory, because now it is a state of war and no elections will be held. are you planning to go to the mayor's office in kryvyi rih? i don't look that far . politician and already two years ago, and left politics , yes, the vylkula bloc, the ukrainian perspective, won many elections in the dnipropetrovsk region, we are a regional party there, we have three mayors, we elected the majority, and in some city councils there, for example, in kryvyi rih, it is very worthy

representation in the dnipropetrovsk regional council but i didn't even become a deputy of the city council or the regional council. i decided to leave politics and i didn't change my decision. my hometown in order to protect my native country, but i don't plan to engage in politics after the war. why would i engage in this kind of work? and in general, one of the possible reasons why russia hoped to defeat ukraine in general is the fact that the south and east of ukraine are russian-speaking, and that they, as you said, thought that russian-speaking people love putin, but it is this advice that may not change in russia. do

you plan to switch to the ukrainian language in the future in the region? he communicates in the ukrainian language . in russian i speak to those who hear me and it is also important that these people hear yes yes shall we speak more ukrainian or shall we switch to ukrainian yes but uh, do you understand who is fighting now and ukrainian-speaking and russian-speaking, see how russian-speaking mariupol fights and dies, russian-speaking kharkiv