that russia is committing right now on ukrainian soil about the experience of recording crimes in the occupied crimea and how all this should be included in the materials of criminal criminal cases and the further responsibility of russia in general and specifically personally, everyone who has criminal orders to you, it is important to record right now when that is all our journalist will be on the air next, and she should join our broadcast because today the murderer who killed a person in sumy oblast, a person in sumy oblast, and in about an hour there should be a court verdict there, but valeria pashko should be there by now, and the correspondent of the espresso channel, i will remind you. that's how she is called now, uh, this person's name is vadym shishmarin, if

you can call him that, well, for us, this is uh, zabroda, an occupier who came to our land with weapons, and there she was the situation is such that they were walking through a settlement in sumy oblast, a man was walking with a bicycle somewhere on both sides of the road, and this shishmarin said during the interrogation that i had orders to shoot and kill this simple civilian man, and he took it and shot, and the murder will always be said to have been an order that someone said that someone forced me i am not guilty i am there on a business trip here we do not believe a single word and despite the fact that he, by the way, he admitted his guilt and said that he should be convicted and he fully admitted his guilt and i think but i i think only thanks to the fact that as soon as possible this trial will end for him, so this trial and he could be tried for an exchange, i think it is on his part, more or less. it is clear. well, this process is important to us, because this is the first time a

soldier is accused of murdering a ukrainian civilian in our land it is important a precedent that will in principle form the basis of many future cases because we bought historians, trials and verdicts in absentia, and the people who committed the crime, do you remember how they were there, in which city exactly two people were killed by the russians just like that their backs, too, their names will also be known, and i think the cases of all these crimes will not come to an end, to the end they deserved. be this sentence first well if the darkness doesn't move eh in absentia well, the entire

territory of kyiv oblast is liberated and not only kyiv oblast. it was uh, part of sumy oblast and chernihiv oblast, where there was an occupation of our infamous bucha and irpin e. there have already been a lot of cases of people being shot in the back blindfolded with their heads tied, bandaged, well, that is, these are targeted murders , why was violence preceded and all of this should be included in criminal cases and they will be cooked even if they are in absentia, then they will still be held accountable, wherever they are. well, no, nothing it doesn't happen. well, they just don't pass in front of the maidan, so in principle everything is fixed and you can find any person, in the end, at least you can quickly find out his name and surname in the social network. they are on their own on instagram they write, i go, kill the orcs, but then, oh my god, how

bad it is without you, when their wives or girls are there, they write, come on, let them go, rape ukrainian women, come on, kill them, and then oh my god, well, they don’t even understand that they write their own materials with their own hands to criminal convictions cases right now, even on social networks, well, we hope that our lera will join us and tell us what is happening to us now, uh, i already know him, too, around this case, because the previous preliminary hearings were uh, we followed this case, i should already have a verdict today volodymyra hrytsko is already with us. please tell me, the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine for the seventh and ninth years, the head of the russian research center, we wanted to talk with him in particular and about this, well, for now, lera will join us later, is there a snack with us tell volodymyr, ask for

the latest news, or rather your comment on it, mr. baidan directly said that in the event that china tries to attack, that is, attacks taiwan, the united states will use its armed forces in plain text, he said that said, how do you comment on this, this is china's last warning so that you don't even think to take advantage of the moment to shake the world, start a war there, there's a third world war on other continents, they support russia, that this signal is direct from biden, maybe it means you know gaidar i would here he said that this is a signal not only to china, it is a signal to putin because uh because uh well this is really uh the

last but not at all a chinese warning and the warning is very harsh uh and i think that uh both leaders of totalitarian states, you need to write it down and read it several times in the morning in order not to forget, that's why i think that it is directed at two people and one and the other, to a greater extent, it seems to me to be putin, because it means that if he leaves then there will be real steps on the part of the usa that will finally be carried out long orphans as our great poet once said , referring to the truth, no, no, not the russian federation, but besides that, i think it is about signals, it is interesting to both of us, that is, what does he want to say to putin, eh, there is no need to use nuclear

weapons, even tactical ones, there is no need to provoke there, er, to try to attack moldova, there is no need to try to attack georgia, there is no need to try to attack the baltic countries there, what do you think, what kind of signals are basically being given to putin now, er, well, in one way or another, maybe with some non-public statements you do you know the answer to this question, i think you should read in the call of this so-called head of the negotiating group from medina that ukraine still says that it does not want to resume negotiations, it seems to me that this is what was heard in the kremlin and what today they are trying to uh to do and this is their own answer to what they hear uh washington because the continuation of the supply of heavy weapons and at the same time the increased

supply will now be rammstein 2 and it seems to me that the results of this uh this meeting there will be a decision about speeding up the supply of heavy weapons, this will mean that russia will be chased away, and that's why putin - it's great, he understands and knows and the main thing is that he can't do anything against it, that's why he's now launching it through his talking heads i thought again about the idea of ​​negotiations as an attempt to escape somehow from this situation well, what seems important to me and what both biden and johnson are talking about and not only by the way they that ending the war at the borders on february 24 is nonsense and i would really like to

that our leaders listen to the opinions of those world leaders who think strategically and globally and in no way do those things that our leaders are told in my ear. for some reason, it seems that someone else is clearly not from the territory of ukraine. this is definitely not very strange the proposals from the italian side of the moon sound like uh, there uh, on the one hand, italy supports us, on the other hand, there are already such hints. germany is not doing this anymore. the answer was already from our authorities that we will not trade our territories for a cease-fire period, that is, which position will ultimately win in the western world in your opinion regarding

the ceasefire cease-fire as there goal whose goal will be strategic which you just now mentioned to mr. volodymyr, i would very much like our position to be no different from the western one, because you understand that if the ukrainian leadership declares that we are quite ready to return to the way things were, and we will forget about crimea and donbas because well, we will not talk about anything for 10 years, then this only means that we will give those forces in the west about whom you are talking about italy, in particular, to say well, look, the ukrainians themselves do not want to fight anymore, they are ready to go to the on the signing of some kind of agreement with moscow, so what should we worry about more than the ukrainians? by the way,

once upon a time. think of us more than ourselves if we are going to agree that part of our territory remains occupied and we are talking about some potential negotiations, then we have to remember the 8 years of negotiations that have already taken place and which in no way gave a result, rather the result was a large-scale offensive of russia on ukraine. that is, we want to repeat the same thing in another 8 or 10 years. i think that this is the wrong way, this is the way to nowhere eh and eh if we now have this fantastic support from the west fantastic eh political unity event in her struggle with russia is engaged in strike-breakers. i think that it does not suit us at all. well, i think, mr. volodymyr, that this will not happen, because president

zelensky first of all directly said about this that, well , that is, territorial integrity and all. and what is important minsk - there will be no minsk - he said, that is , referring to such and such an agreement. yes, the first and second were just yesterday. there was some kind of polish-ukrainian holiday in the very best sense of the word. that is, all there are some disagreements, they are all buried forever and simply poland is actually brothers and how come they support us so much? well, we also have to be. well, we are her , our army is the locomotive of all this in all these diplomatic events. by the way, diplomacy will work first of all. the president of ukraine is also afraid on the field. someone else said, uh, a lot of people , that is, how do you evaluate these uh, hmm, maybe new unions of

uh , ukraine, for example, with poland. there lithuania join this britain how do you feel about such alliances, because they say there that they will accept ukraine in 15 years, i want to say yes, go, you know where the ship was recently, yes, with such proposals, mr. volodymyr. thank you, i will disappoint you . i do not see the point of additional alternative security agreements because they will not ensure our security the only form that can ensure our security is the nato security formula, there is nothing else, that is why all the post -socialist countries marched quickly on and thank god we got these memberships, because we have to do the same thing, otherwise we we will be constantly under the threat of this totalitarian

wild state. vladimir, we are endlessly grateful to you. thank you for taking the time. your comments are extremely important and professional. volodymyr hryshko, because in our guest , the minister of law for the affairs of ukraine, i think it is absolutely correct, but poland will already help us to move forward e-e nato of the european union for what mr. duda is about, the president of poland, the kazakh is valid in the european union and we are going to valeria pashko journalist espresso she should be under e-e court e-e valery hello in court i saw in the walls of the court absolutely there should be this first sentence today to the russian murderer who killed a man in my native sumyshchyna, but just a civilian man with a bicycle who was walking on the road. what do they say there will be a verdict today or maybe something will be postponed. what do you see? can you hear the announcement, please, hello good afternoon, in fact, we are actually

in the court building, namely in the corridor. we are waiting for them to enter the hall. there is quite a stir among representatives of the mass media. we arrived an hour and a half before the start of the session and there was already a huge queue, in fact, and there were much more foreign journalists than ukrainian journalists. now you can see the queue. well, i don’t know. it’s hard to tell by eye, but about 50 people. maybe even more, that’s why we see the kind of excitement surrounding the first verdict in the crime of the russian military on in the territory of ukraine, it is about vadym shishomarin , according to the version of the investigation, and in principle the suspect himself confirmed it that the ukrainians smashed the russian tank column and many people were wounded, they returned to russia, but some managed to run away and they ran to a village in the sumy oblast

, seized a car, and after that they tried to ride it, they saw a man riding a bicycle, talking on the phone, and actually they killed him, it was vadim who is suspected of committing this crime that is marin, but he said it himself that he was ordered to do this by his senior in rank, he also repented of the crime he committed and apologized and said that he regrets what he did and even be ready for any punishment that the court will impose on him, namely the prosecutor's office the wife of the deceased actually wanted this, and she was also not against it. if he were exchanged for the defenders of azovstal, who had already been released from mariupol and transported as prisoners of war to russia or the territories temporarily controlled by ukraine, then the verdict will be at

12 o'clock the judge should announce it if, of course , everything goes according to plan, so far no surprises are expected, and the actual verdict should be delivered today. chimarin's lawyer actually said that he should be acquitted because of mitigating circumstances his remorse, in particular. well, we will see what the first sentence will be for a russian serviceman who is accused of killing a civilian and violating the laws and customs of war. colleagues anya antine and valeria pashko. thank you , valeria. we will follow this case, of course. eh, the only thing she thought was that i was with antid burkovsky, we have a judge, ayder muzhdabaev, this is a joint broadcast with the atr channel at this time, well, the defense position of the accused is very interesting, so let's soften him up because he went and confessed, he went to a meeting with the investigation and well, it's nothing that he killed a civilian, the practice

of the court simply sounds strange now during the war, and in principle, i what he confessed, he deserves to be softened, but i think it's actually clear here, i think that the relatives of the deceased. life imprisonment it is clear that she is not she anger she wants a person to answer for his crime but says that i would also like to be exchanged for military reserves because it is important because we are for ours because we will tear for ours and this is what distinguishes us from the russians, who have been silent for three months, tomorrow will be three months in the interview with the widow of the deceased . i think that our colleagues will definitely do it today. maybe she will be in court and then there will be

something similar to a briefing there, and we will follow this case today exactly must be first the verdict of the russian who killed a civilian in sumy region at night. he was walking there with a phone. they didn't like it or thought that he would remain as a witness . it is already unknown, that is, rape. there is no excuse for such a thing nely, is denys kazanskyi still with us? tell us, please, journalist, former representative of the ukrainian delegation in the tripartite contact group for the regulation of the conflict in donbas, it already sounds like something from a past life, this idiom tripartite contact group we they tried to regulate something there, all of them , how long since the 14th year, or the western partners, the western partners, they offered us unreal everything, yes, what is there, where is denis, congratulations, hello, denisa, this is a tree, i

want to know, uh, right away, ask, there are still echoes of uh, uh to the world such proposals from, for example, italy that it is necessary to stop, and they allude to minsk-3, you as a person who took part in such a format yes, long- term, but in principle not very useful for ukraine and for everyone and for the truth what do you think if and zelensky said that i will still be a diplomatic finale if you think, what do you think if he will in principle someday be a diplomatic finale of this war, what can he should be in your opinion . ah, a corrupt politician , who was accused of pedophilia in his time, and that is why we are watching. he supports putin, they probably have some common interests in

life, and in general, such proposals for a diplomatic settlement, well, i see it i understood that well, one way or another, any war will end with the signing of some kind of peace agreement and in this sense in principle, yes, it is logical and i think that the war with russia sooner or later should end with the signing of some document, that is, the full stop will be put exactly diplomatically by the way, another matter will take precedence over this one. at the moment, i see that we are very far from the burning of this conflict, let’s say so from stopping the fire from stopping the russian offensive. i continue to advance and well, considering that she openly declares further public intentions regarding our territory. it’s hard for me to imagine what kind of minsk three should be now, that is, russia

declares the destruction of our statehood, this is in no way eh well, let’s put it this way, it coincides with the proposals regarding some minsk 3 i absolutely agree eh it ’s simple it's obvious and it's probably more obvious that we can now simply see from the events that are taking place in your native donbas. to say as a person who carefully observes the event in the online mode at the hottest point right now, well actually, what happened the previous days is happening, the russians are just destroying several cities that are near the front line according to the same scenario according to which they have already destroyed in the conditions of mariupol and the border, that's why. well,

let's say that the situation is really complicated, it makes no sense, because russia actually captures the ruins, the ruins of enterprises, in the war, buildings about it , on the objects of the fan infrastructure, people from such places which are captured, they simply run away as if from mariupol, so that the majority of the population was forced to leave . that is, it is just such a haunted land. and so, destruction for the sake of destruction - this is part of the modern policy of putin, who, it seems to me, has really gone out of his mind from god's mountains and the only motive for which he is guided by it's just hatred for ukraine, it's such a blind story, it's just that his goal is absolutely more people and to plan ecologically there, the connection is not very good, it was the last second , it's fine, it's fine, i want to say, you know, we

probably still the world and not everyone in ukraine has understood what the purpose of such actions is, because the last time i heard that putin is fighting for territory, but what territories is he fighting for if he destroys those territories that he supposedly needs. that's it . well, i look at how they simply well, not what they imagine, how they explain it there propaganda in the territories of the so -called lpr dpr, their actions to the destruction of the entire infrastructure of factories there are factories of everything, here we are doing it in order to what well, they explain it so what it is supposedly ukrainians, that is, we lived peacefully, developed territories, built new enterprises there, made large constructions there , built roads bridges and on february 24, 22nd, we simply decided to shoot ourselves,

destroy it, break it up. let's put it this way, we are in no way offended by the plausibility, that is, they just keep saying something else. they still can't say anything, they say what they are told from the textbooks. well, in principle, that's how they are. that's all they explain, and they think that they are engaged in the liberation of that territory, although it is de facto - it's just liberation from everything, from people, from industry, from the economy, from houses, from everything, absolutely from life, denys. what are your predictions, considering what you see now ? here we read that what if the war for donbas is now narrowing down to battles for luhansk region, given the

dynamics and tactics here, what can we expect next? what is the goal of the enemy now? blessed business i think that they will continue in the future for the time being just insanity stupid destruction that's all for now their only one obviously nurses i can see this process we were talking i don't know if you heard on our broadcast eh that in kyiv today the first sentence is to be eh a russian to a russian soldier who killed a ukrainian civilian. this happened in sumy oblast, but this is the first such sentence, although there have been enough ukrainian civilians killed since the 14th year. how should this happen in the legal field and be highlighted in the media so that everyone understands what

ukrainians will not allow their citizens to be killed just like that and not be held accountable for it, absolutely. this should be recorded properly, i.e., as much as possible, recorded by the appropriate state bodies, including public bodies and journalists in in particular, i also work there as much as possible, we have it all accurately record, document, and let the whole world know everything first, and we'll see. ask, no one has ever forgotten. well, we definitely won't forget and we won't forgive. tomorrow will be three months of a full-scale invasion of russia in denisa's ukraine, how did these three months change your worldview, your life, or well, you were just in this

before , or did the war change artemy? with denys maidan, tell me, you too , if channel tr systematically covered it because it was a painful issue for the occupied crimea, but many people in ukraine still lived under the dome and did not feel the fact that there was a war, and now it is the case with the appearance of the arrestees as i say everyone understood that this is definitely a war for everyone for three months and for you these three months something has changed for everyone, just not everyone was waiting, we just like that, as i see it, there are many surprised people who say and how could they listen like that, but the chichens do not remember how they could do this with a chintz. that is, you know it in a certain way. well, there is some kind of drawback , i don’t know something in our cities, because what why do we

think that from the chechens they could do that with the syrians. well, it's just like that by the whole society and i think that in principle well, few people could imagine that this is so much the situation as to why many jews did not escape from kyiv in time and they were shot at in babyny yar. do you know why? because, well, part of the jews of kyiv did not believe i think it was the 20th year there, or the 820th, or the 18th year. they remembered those germans who came and destroyed order in kyiv there during the so -called civil war, in fact, it was an occupation war there, as it is now . it is clear that many people may not have been to russia for a long time there there are some relative illusions, that is, well, that’s the stop, we are brothers. well, yes, but bad brothers, but all the same, all illusions have been completely destroyed, and what we said, i

said personally, it’s not a brat at all, it’s not brothers, it’s crimean tatars, ukrainians, poles, lithuanians, british , whatever from languages ​​language is not an excuse to call someone dignity there er-e like there what is there and it is over brother brother is the one who is near and not the one who is behind the back with a knife without a rifle thank you and we go zhdobaev crimean tatar people who poles, as it turned out, to take poles for us, but those who called us brothers so well for a long time insinuated us yes, these are still poles, these are doubtful people there, there are many conflicts there, there are many 100 l acts from the crimean tatars, we have different ones in history, we had to rely on the main thing, on the meaning well, remember who killed us and who killed us, because information is the first weapon, let's remember this , please join the resistance