be email password enter we are returning to the main page of the petition site open the petition for the return to the digital air of the ukrainian tv channels espresso of the fifth and direct press the button to sign the petition an inscription will appear signed your signature is confirmed and taken into account let's return to the digital air ukrainian patriotic channels together we will not allow them to be destroyed in ukraine freedom of speech in ukraine is a program verdict my name is serhiy rudenko good day and good health to all today is the 89th day of heroic ukrainian resistance to the russian occupiers in just the last day russia has lost 150 military operations on the territory of ukraine , according to the data of the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine, as of the morning of may 23, the russians have already lost in ukraine 29,200 personnel,

29,200 tanks, 1,293 armored combat vehicles , 3,166 artillery systems, 604 multiple rocket launcher systems, and 201 anti-aircraft weapons. defense 93 aircraft from 204 helicopters 170 automotive equipment 2,206 ships boats 13 cruise missiles 110 drones 476 special equipment 43 units about the world and the war e-e in ukraine today we are talking with the politician, diplomat, minister of foreign affairs of ukraine in 2014-2019 pavlo klimkin, mr. pavla. thank you for participating in our program. thank you for participating in our program. thank you.

three months of grueling war for the ukrainian people, let's start with certain results. has the world done everything to convince putin that the war for russia in ukraine will cost putin's country enough and are we enough the arguments that the world uses to convince putin today, the short answer, unfortunately, is no, and the arguments are also insufficient .

willingness to raise the stakes i really liked baidan's statement at the press conference today, this is for the japanese prime ministers when he was asked about the taiwanese. he said yes, we will defend by military means. and he also said a very important thing. he said that if we somehow make concessions or something like that with regard to ukraine, what will china think, so in fact for the west it is a question of geopolitical trust if they grab a corner in ukraine, then in fact there is nothing to do in the 21st century but it should have started earlier what the american administration did to build western solidarity and the anti -putin coalition. this is really unique. well, i just know this from the inside from conversations with many who

work today in the west, including in within the framework of this coalition, but unfortunately it still happened too late, all these weapons that are now coming in . we had to download them every month, understanding that this is not a provocation, not a provocative behavior, where in relation to putin, this is deterrence of the putin regime, and secondly, well , look at how the discussions are going regarding the further sanctions of the sixth package, the package according to which , in my opinion, every ukrainian already knows and that they are returning to the issue of the oil race at the end of this month, that there is open, that is hungary that there are endless things in this car. come on, it is forbidden to bring in a tanker there, but we will still allow the transportation of oil tankers. this is not the desire to understand that in the end, what is happening in our country is the

ukrainian -russian war. to your simple questions, short no and not everything but nevertheless, we have not the one we like, but we have to work with events to maintain the tone, including an emotional one, because the event should not be copied, but the main thing is that under him, they woke up and thought: what have i done for ukraine? well, by the way, you asked biden about his press conference in tokyo. he said that the sanctions that are currently in effect against the russian federation will be maintained even if russia goes to some certain diplomatic rapprochement with ukraine in order for the whole world to understand what price the russian federation and vladimir putin are paying for this, and at the same time, since the topic of taiwan is quite relevant now for the world and binding suggests

that it can restrain these sanctions of ours the world's attention in support of ukraine can deter china from trying to seize taiwan. and why does e-biding say that the united states is ready for direct military intervention in the event of china's aggression against taiwan, while at the same time why does it say that the united states of america is not ready for direct military intervention in a situation that is unfolding in ukraine, first of all, they learned a lot, unfortunately, from our example, they realized that if you try to agree to have long conversations, it does not end in anything, and in fact it was necessary that biden so he told putin in geneva, remember there was a meeting and he said putin is political in ukraine, you will get americans, the whole of nato is at war with russia,

that this was not said or sk- it was probably not said exactly like that well, in fact, it led to what we see but nevertheless, the states have learned, and secondly, the stakes in relation to the taiwanese are crazy. if you add taiwan to what is happening in our country, the ukrainian ukraine of the russian war, it means the destabilization of the entire planet. this is not only true, but not only technologically, you know that taiwan is the main producer of vtracheps and in general, the whole world economy will become this, python will open it, i smell it in the mind, of course, in the south, he says, and in japan. this is the desire to build a system of levers, how to influence china. less

for us already about ukraine above all and for us it is important that the west step up and further with putin's press and from that biker of the conference, i see that he is on the right side by the way, when we talk about hellish sanctions about what can bury the russian regime there or stop putin or force putin to leave ukraine we say every time well, now there will be the most hellish sanctions that will force putin to do this and that and this continues for three months, we hear this rhetoric, we see the desire of the west to hurt russia, and well, it turns out what is wrong with putin ?

the only one who can throw putin out of ukraine is the ukrainians, it's us, it's the armed forces - it's the resistance of ukrainian society and putin's understanding that the price reaches such er hands that he can't digest it in the sense of the theater, in the sense of technique, and in the sense of understanding in general economic losses and economic damage to russia, that is why the sanctions are in effect, but unfortunately they are not effective, eh, some sanctions will be very noticeable from eh june, some sanctions from july, of course, it is important that they function as quickly as possible, and that i the americans and the european union say that sanctions will remain until the moment when donbas will be liberated, and this is of course a very correct political position. and there is, but i see that today in the

european union, they have almost reached the limit of what they can do quickly. next, they start very complicated discussions, uh, and this is actually internal european union policy and this is actually a trend that does not suit us and we must clearly tell the europeans, in particular the european union, if you go ahead, you risk raising the stakes by putin in all directions, and this will mean that the what is happening in ukraine can reach the continental level, even at this level, and the threat of this is clear today in kyiv announced the first sentence of the russian military for the murder of a civilian, it happened in the solomyansk district court of the capital, 21 years old sergeant and commander of the tank container division of the moscow region vadim e shishamarinu and he

received life imprisonment. this is the first sentence and in general it is the practice of announcing sentences to russian occupiers who took part in murders , rapes and looting on the territory the ukrainian state to what extent it can speed up the process of launching the mechanism of the international tribunal in gaza. well, let's be frank about those er and such if i still have these plots and so on. this simply shows the er moral mohal level of all people. well, what else can be said about them to say condemnation is very correct. we are conducted in contrast to this medieval horde, which here rapes, takes something from people, kills, well, that is, everyone has already understood its

nature, but the tribunal is primarily for those who actually gave orders and to us on which first of all, it is necessary to tighten the weight, and this is actually a question for the future, we understand that this will happen when russia starts to pour or when it starts to reload, also, no one will give them all eh from moscow, but we have to prepare 101%, so all of us we have to collect evidence for 100%. do you remember in the former veslavia, someone also believed that no one was above the rest, uh, there would be no reaction. but nevertheless, everything happened as it happened, so let them be afraid and let them understand that the further it goes, the more chances there are to be in a situation, and this is also important factor of influence on today's putin. i believe that putin himself will never give up his

desire to seize and destroy ukraine. for him, this desire is no longer rational. he has such a sense of mission inside his head that this restoration is a mixture of the soviet union and the empire. he believes that without it, no one will do it without him , and i think that this feeling was supported in him many years ago. to agree on something like a peace agreement with putin. i think it is absolutely not impossible. by the way, let's still do it all the conditions for putin to save face somehow get out of this war so that we somehow start communicating very often, this thesis is heard in italy or in other countries, well, at least the west is trying to find some other ways to get along with putin, what do you think can

putin after what happened in ukraine during the last three months still be in the company of good people of the world and influential people of the world or his participation in various summits, including the g20 where is he invited to taiwan if i, uh, go to thailand, he seems to be in indonesia, yes, in indonesia in the fall, or can it somehow turn putin into a person again with whom they will agree on something, talk, shake his hand and pretend that well, who is not wrong, they say. unfortunately, i think that there is such a chance this does not mean that he will be treated like a normal leader of the civilized light, we have already passed the final stage. this will never happen again, and the nature of putin is a

dictator and the leader of the ivanshchik regime is absolutely clear to everyone, but i am afraid that part of the event preserves for himself the opportunity to speak with putin, of course they do not like him, they despise him, but nevertheless, in order to ensure a certain constancy and stability, they will talk with putin, not everyone, of course, but someone will shake hands, someone will negotiate, they do not just happen the italian plans are not just saying that, macron is not just saying that, they are silent in germany and now we see that the old europe well, i understand that this is a conditional concept but nevertheless, the old europe is inclined to the fact that of course not it is possible. and i have to emphasize this. you cannot let putin win in ukraine in any way. this is out

of the question. this bothers me very, very much, because let putin prepare his face, don't humiliate him, as the macro literally said. this is how immoral politics sounds to me, unfortunately, it is not some uh, positive, pure reality, and sometimes you have to talk even with people like putin, but at the same time, it is not about preserving his reputation, i don't know what it's called in quotes, where in general you can't talk to putin only from the position of good. i don't believe at all that you can agree on anything with him from some equal positions. this is not about today's putin and it will never be like that again. but nevertheless, part of the west wants this and

consistently goes for it, and this is probably actually a challenge for the solidarity of the west, not now, it is not a prospect and a challenge for us, and if the west doubts, then at least our nearest neighbor our brothers, because russians always say that russians and ukrainians are brothers, it seems to me that now it is necessary to say that poles and ukrainians are bigger brothers, let's say closer relatives, and if russians are brothers, then it is possible in some 10th generation, today it became known that poland prematurely breaks the agreement on the supply of russian gas, and this agreement lasted from 1993 to 2022 and was signed in 1993, as the minister of climate and environment of poland, anna moskva, said, her last name is so symbolic in

order to break this agreement, poland denounces russia's aggression against ukraine confirmed the faithfulness of the polish government's determination to become completely independent from russia. we always knew that gazprom is not a reliable partner. well, poland usually takes this step in support of ukraine. yesterday, polish president angeli duda was in kyiv and called on the whole world to help ukraine militarily and humanitarianly and to increase the pressure on russia, let's listen to what duda said, how can the world peacefully help ukraine during the end of the war, only with sanctions, only with firm pressure only by isolating russia, by throwing it out of the international community, the economic session, the economic session, this issue of the sixth package of sanctions within the framework of the

european union, which must be implemented, this is a very important issue, by the way, volodymyr zelenskyi is sure that there will be no more ukrainian skepticism about ukraine's accession to the eu, because in parallel, against the background of these zay, there is a big discussion about the future of ukraine in the european union, and it is thanks to the friendly support of poland that we will listen to zelensky, i am sure that all the necessary the decision first for the candidate status for ukraine and then for full full membership will certainly be made thanks to poland's many years of protection of ukrainian interests on the european continent and i am grateful for your willingness to make personal visits to european capitals together with the president of slovakia, zuzana czabatova, with the

aim of lobbying the issue of ukraine's membership in the european union in countries as they say to skeptics, they are not actually skeptics, but future optimists, but against the background of these e-e statements, duda and zelensky also heard the statement of the minister of european affairs of france, klem na bon, who believes that ukraine's accession to the european union may last 15 or 20 years, a skeptic and about those who do not want to see ukraine or do not yet see us close to the european union to the union , please tell the minister of european affairs because it is clear that poland supports us, it is clear that we are striving to get there, and it is clear that ukraine now plays a very important role not only in european

architecture, but also in world architecture in that numbers and security, first of all, yesterday was a very cool , cool visit, people, and i have a lot of faith in the future of central europe, i have a lot of faith in the new reincarnation of central europe. i believe that geopolitical issues will be reckoned with in the near future. well, maybe not tomorrow, but the day after tomorrow for sure and we will be an integral part of this central europe. i also believe that from this central europe there will be a european belarus after the fall of lukashenka's regime there and i am sure that we poles will play a key role and this central europe is extraordinary will also play a role in global schedules,

besides an extremely important role, i really feel that we like to create baltic black sea cooperation about that sea or there, if we did not call it the future of central europe with ukraine - it should really be cool and that that has already started to happen with our cooperation and mutual sympathy and er parasky of mutual respect in central europe this is important and we have, agree, such an emotion, passion in all central european nations, it will play a crazy role in the xxi century, that is, on we are waiting for a very interesting review, so with regard to the skeptics, i wouldn't say that now we have skeptics as such who do not want to have ukraine directly in the european union. well, we have a

fantastic surge of support, just the support of normal, completely confused europeans who look at the screens of their of telephones or computers or fd tvs and understand something about ukraine, and better feel something about ukraine, the question is more about and how will the further process of e-e to the european union progress, how many and under what conditions will you it will continue and what i said was, i know him well, well, this is just such a cautious bureaucratic approach, and let's do everything as before, well, nothing will happen after the war, as it was before the war . i don't know how to go to school there in the first grade and say, "let's do 11 or 12 in two grades, depending on how it works in different european countries. so it will be faster. so

we need to invest in it. and we need to invest in order to become cooler or go to the european one union, but instantly - this will not happen. i believe that any period of full membership of the european union, i emphasize, is less than 10 years. it will be a worthy result, but i would stop these speculations. someone says five years, someone seven, someone nine, someone eleven . marazm, let's give it candidate status, then the conditions for the start of negotiations, we will structure these negotiations. by the way, we prepared her questions very well in the european commission. there were almost no real questions about this. such very, very serious work real sympathy for ukraine, so i agree that there are no classic skeptics anymore, but this does not mean that we need to just say, well, cool, what will they do to us for being so cool, for being

inspired by us? well, the so-called, as they like to say in europe, is a geopolitical discount when the status of a candidate in the further steps, so there will be a lot of sympathy for us, but we still need to work and there are things such as the rule of law and the form of law enforcement, well, that is, there are very, very many things on which there are, let's say, let's go ahead and after the war, this will actually be the number one topic. well, the last one is perfectly clear to everyone. it is clear that the eu will be the leader in the restoration of ukraine. i deliberately do not say reconstruction, but restoration, and it will be the same process of restoration of its promotion to the eu, since the restoration will take place in accordance with european standards and but here we critically need to capture the plant in all of europe, not only conditional and old, because it has the resources and there is a desire that, after all, everything in ukraine was very

consistently stable and in accordance with european standards and for us, this is a critical story for the coming years, but i absolutely believe in this. i remember well the negotiations on the visa-free association and i think that another success well, not one, we actually need more, we will definitely have friends, we work live we have a visiting politician, diplomat - minister of foreign affairs of ukraine in 2014-2019 pavlo klimkin, for those who are currently watching us online on youtube and also on facebook, please like this video and also subscribe to our channel and you are also watching now on the screen is a link to our social networks and you can subscribe to telegram on facebook on youtube on instagram on twitter we are working for you mr. pavlas today is the second

meeting of representatives of more than 40 countries of the world who gathered a month ago in rammstein now they are meeting online to discuss the future ukraine and the future security, what do you expect from rammstein 2? on the side of ukraine in the war with russia, more and faster modern weapons, and this is the number one question from today's meeting, volodymyr zelenskyi spoke about mlrs, but it is about larger weapons systems, but secondly, the mentality of the west

is changing, and quite quickly we were just talking about internal discussions but it is very important that during these rammstein meetings, as we now call them, they went on to discuss what ukraine needs to win, not only to resist, not only to stop putin but in order to directly defeat and liberate our territories, this is actually the main story, so that we don’t talk about long, exhausting negotiations where putin will make everyone ’s head spin again and blackmail with the energy carriers of nuclear weapons and everything possible, so it is critical for us that rammstein say that it will be so unequivocally more weapons, yes, in the long run, ukraine will switch completely to western weapons. this is the story

of zlendlizom, of course, first of all for war and for victory, but also in order to war and after the war, we completely switched to western weapons and western standards of intelligence logistics, absolutely everything so that we become a de facto member of nato well, then the way is already possible without any additional bureaucratic or political tools, such as an action plan regarding membership and you you see that sweden and finland will go, as they say, to transportation without such an action plan, of course they are there in the indicators of sustainable democracy or the rule of law, they are very cool there, they are at the top of all the ratings, but i think that we will also add and these will actually be such strategic decisions . maybe rammstein is talking about help now, about

tactics, but also about the strategy for the near future. when we talk about the future, i cannot help but recall the words of the minister of defense of ukraine, oleksiy reznikov, last week, when he stated that ukraine is entering the the phase of a protracted war, since the russians continue to entrench themselves and create fortifications in the south of ukraine, when we talk about a protracted war, we are talking, of course , first of all about ukraine, about what this war will be like for of ukraine, but we must talk about what this means for the world, because the world is now facing a food crisis because ukraine cannot deliver its grain or part of its grain, the russians stole it and took it to their country, er, all the ports of ukraine are blocked