the territory of the ukrainian government and we observe long-kilometer queues from the side of the occupied territories from the side of vasiliyivka are standing in the direction of zaporozhye and the russian federation does not release people who want to leave the territory under the control of the ukrainian government, so that they are forcibly taken to the russian federation, we see hundreds of cases and thousands of cases that those people who were forcibly taken to the territory of the russian federation, they return to ukraine by all means through georgia, belarus in desperate ways, they are looking for an opportunity. how did he do it and how to return to the territory controlled by the ukrainian government, so the russian federation does not give residents the right to choose to leave for the

territory they need. i do not want to condemn anyone, but today very many residents remain in the city of mariupol who cannot leave later there are so many calls that residents are staying due to forced reasons, someone's parents are sick, someone's grandmother and grandfather are just protecting the house so that it is not robbed, someone simply cannot leave that territory because there are objective reasons, therefore it is certain that the residents who remained there are not all, well, not that not all, but i want to say that, for the most part, they dream of returning to ukraine and are waiting for the arrival of the ukrainian government it is clear that a fraction of those people who remained there, they probably have

relatives in the russian federation, they probably have already been absorbed somewhere by the russian propaganda that now covers the entire city of mariupol and all territories that are not under control ukrainian the authorities, but i am sure that the people who stayed there are our people, these are the citizens of ukraine - these are those who dream of leaving and those who are waiting for the ukrainian authorities. we need to raise the issue of evacuation at all levels throughout the international community, and we see that and the president of ukraine and volodymyr oleksandrovich zelenskyi is doing everything possible so that the evacuation mission does not stop and the relevant minister irina andreevna vereshchuk is constantly participating in the negotiation process and a lot of people 's deputies, of course, two heads of the military of the administration - it's donetsk from the zaporozhye

regions, which constantly raise the issues of evacuation missions and evacuation processes. stepan maksma, the head of the mariupol district council , was in touch with us. thank you, mr. stepan, for this conversation and the conversation about mariupol. -we regularly cover this topic , we constantly keep the situation under control and talk about it with local officials and with government officials, and together with the whole country, we appeal to the world to help us release our defenders of our civilians and actually cause the city to be unblocked, at the moment we see that this is possible only by military means, and accordingly we do not have the necessary time, which we do not have. well, we will move on to our next guest, this is rostyslav smirnov , adviser to the minister of internal affairs of ukraine, mr.

rostyslav, good day good afternoon. we continue the topic of mariupol, we continue the topic of actual evacuation, and we continue the topic this time regarding the evacuation or return to ukraine of ukrainian military personnel, namely prisoners from azovstal, what are the chances that they this process is progressing, we know that this is a sensitive and delicate issue, we understand that you can't say everything on the air, but say a few words to say very little information. and today, he and maria discussed this story before the start of the air. we just couldn't remember, both of us remember they heard that someone had said about some guarantees, for example , from international structures regarding the return and safety of fighters to azov, as well as marines of ukrainian border guards there, and we remembered that there was something in the information field, as if he said about it, as if zelenskyi no, he was talking about it, it turned out

that the first source, oddly enough, was actually kira rudyk, who later renounced the session in an interview . after that, this was confirmed by the president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi in his speech to mark the third anniversary of the inauguration on may 21, in fact, that is, with hundreds of guarantees, because you will see the information, we have little contradictory time, it is overgrown with some references well, i will tell you that i will not tell you any more information. it is precisely because of what we are going to say that there is a position. the position is the following . first of all, only the president comments on this story because the situation is very sensitive and very complicated and any words from our mouths can be there, let's say, and have some the negative impact of this process in the process is quite fragile, but i can say for sure that this is a victory for us, we have shown that the lives of our soldiers are important to us, because believe me, if it were, if we

surrounded the russian military in this way, no one would be very sorry for them i wasn't worried, i'm telling you this for sure for them victory at any price the pope offends us not so exactly , but you know when leonid kuchma wrote ukraine - no russia yes, he even had such a book and this is exactly what we differ, our military is great for us value that is why these negotiations were going on, we involved absolutely the international community, we involved mediator countries that helped us , uh, talk about it, you know that we had countries there, and turkey was very active in helping and in general, the international community pressed it and helped it was constantly discussed with us and in phone calls, we did absolutely everything we could because our military is the main value for us and certain agreements were reached, those about which i can already say now about which in principle you already know this is what they come out with as they grew up and they moved to yelenivka, this is now the territory of the lpr of the dpr, they are provided with

three meals a day and from our side they are provided with medical care, lord, medical care that is necessary, then they receive rights and this is extremely very important. they receive the rights of prisoners of war, this is extremely important because, you know, they are already at least on a certain list and they will not simply disappear somewhere tomorrow if they could disappear if these agreements did not exist. because we perfectly understand that they did the heroism that they simply created, including how they sported on may 9, the chances that you captured them alive were simply minimal, especially if we are talking about a certain command and so on, because its to see all the rights of ukraine and they will be exchanged according to the list as soon as it is possible, in the meantime, the ombudsman of ukraine, lyudmila denisova, spoke about the new terrible crimes of the russian occupiers in the

kherson region, in particular, crimes on a sexual basis in the village of oleksandrivka, where young children were abused, several of whom died in including babies, mr. rostislav, these uh-uh, these facts are extremely impressive, uh, and uh, i would like to hear a few words from you, how is the joint work of the national police going now in general ukrainian law enforcement officers, investigating prosecutors and cooperation with international experts. and actually , are new facts already being recorded from our law enforcement officers and the ombudsman in the international criminal court, what's next, how about this, please, the work continues 24/7 , we really have our criminologists who work from our various structures as well as international support, this is really important and believe me, i can definitely tell you that we will prove all these war crimes in international courts and it will be really very important. i always repeat that we

must get two victories, the first on the battlefield with the help of our armed forces and the second on the legal front in international tribunals why should these people be prosecuted and i assure you they will be prosecuted if we consider that additional questions i was just thinking about it the day before of our conversation with you that we remember as ministers of digital transformation, fedorov said, commenting on the crimes of the russian occupiers in the north of kyiv region , that every russian war criminal will be identified thanks to the fact that we have cameras everywhere, there are opportunities to record even the faces of these non-humans who committed these crimes, but i think that in fact, if it is, for example, selen in the kherson region , it will be much more difficult to do it here. that is, it seems to me that there will be some difficulties with the

identification of the specific persons involved, see, in fact, this story has a slightly different character . even publicly, and you must understand that they will definitely be punished, it can be because of how nuremberg is in the process in 10 and 15 years, we know examples when the nazis who guarded aushvi for these 93 years received their term, so believe the hand of justice, it may not always be on time, but it done, if we are talking about the kherson region, then we must understand that at least we know which troops are stationed there, i.e. which contingent brigade or which battalion is there, and on this basis we can also identify people not only there conventionally speaking from the cameras, we at least know who is there in the city, which brigade, which battalion, and believe us, we have all the possibilities, including our intelligence there, and so on, so that later we can identify all these people, all these most loved ones, what is it very briefly, mr.

rostyslava about these are the restrictions of strengthening within the borders of the border regions of kyiv zhytomyr and rivne regions, which have been introduced so that from this week it is prohibited to move and carry out work outside populated areas from 22 to the fifth movement of persons staying in lisov massifs, forest strips, fishing, e-e, in a wide variety of works, construction works, so please explain e-e, the actual meaning of this decision right now, that it gives us literally a few words e, before we must understand that there can be different e-e, how do you correctly explain different situations, a situation in terms of the fact that there may be shelling from the side by the enemy, they must understand perfectly well that we have a very large common border with both russia and belarus . including we are expecting certain provocations from the side

, including the russian federation, especially if we are talking about the border areas. this is why this provision was introduced, which will help us, including faster detection of idr and react to various other cases well, it is not without reason that the defense vet destroyed seven russian targets, three dozen units of strike aircraft, actually unmanned aerial vehicles are constantly trying to enter our airspace, so around ukrainian borders, the enemy is particularly actively increasing its aviation presence. thank you, rostyslav smirnov , the adviser to the minister of internal affairs of ukraine, was in touch with us. andriy, we now have a very interesting message from pavlograd, from near pavlograd

, from the dnipropetrovsk region, the russians hit the samara field with a missile yes, now they are hitting the fields, but they are in the territory of ukraine, you know, that is, they still retain some of their certain skills, when they start fishing in the opposite direction, it means that the glass is all ice, we are impatiently waiting for the informative story from the editorial office of espresso, which is actually dedicated to today's 90 days of war, three months of war , and the blitzkrieg did not work out. more about this in the material of our journalists about the conduct of a special military operation threatens the west with a nuclear strike and orders our defenders to lay down their weapons a few

minutes before the speech of the head of the kremlin throughout explosions rang out in ukraine, so the full-scale russian-ukrainian war began with cruise and ballistic missiles. crossed the border by land, it was also a real surprise that the muscovites entered from the territory of belarus, the goal of the invasion was to de-nazify and demilitarize ukraine , but in fact to destroy our state, our grandfathers and great-grandfathers did not fight the nazis for nothing, protecting

our entire family, so that today's neo-nazis seized ukraine as their own from the first day ukrainians began to resist heroically, which surprised the whole world. the government is introducing martial law, and zelensky calls on citizens to calm down and emphasizes the enemy do not panic, we are strong, we are ready for everything, we will defeat everyone, because we are ukraine, during the first month of the war, the russians managed to occupy part of sumy oblast and chernihiv oblast and a piece of southern kherson oblast and the zaporizhzhia region, however, the enemy could not advance to the cossack cradle of the city of zaporizhzhia, you were the enemy from mykolaiv, the enemy turned out not to be in the teeth, and even though the russian general staff threatened to take the capital in three days, the enemy was unable to achieve the most important goal of taking kyiv and eliminating statehood. i

exist as such, that is, blitzkrieg did not happen ukrainian the state held its own, the ukrainian state is the liberation of kyiv oblast, the key event of the second month of the war after the rashists retreated, the horrors of buchi and other cities were revealed to the world, where the occupiers killed, tortured, raped, the world condemned the massacre, but the kremlin resorted to old methods and called irrefutable evidence a fake, the door was broken inside the house by a wave she walked in the middle of her people, but there is also no circular window on the street. our defenders pushed back the enemy from the north, where they occupied chernihiv oblast and sumy oblast and drowned pride of the russian fleet is one of the greatest victories if we take april, for example, the month of victories at sea, a victorious battle is not yet a victory in the

war, but a victorious battle is the destruction of the flagship of the russian black sea fleet, this is the destruction of the cruiser moscow in april and may, our defense went in the third month of the counteroffensive, there are military actions in the kharkiv region in the north and the exit of labor, however , brutality is still going on in the region. believe that the battle for donbass may become a turning point in this war and even compare it with the battles for stalingrad during the second world war and the point so in my opinion, not to this point, let's say that

you have not yet reached a stable ngrad, there is still a way to go all three months of the war , the defense of mariupol lasted after long negotiations, it was possible to withdraw almost all civilians and military personnel from the territory of azovstals, now the defenders in the territory controlled by russia, their future fate is decided transfer of groups by the enemy. this is about 20,000 personnel. the enemy was not able to transfer them to other regions, and thus the enemy failed to quickly seize hm zaporizhzhia. grandiose plans to seize ukraine in a few days failed completely . here they destroyed more than 20 times, this village 10 km from kherson became a symbol of the destruction of enemy

troops, in just three months of the war, our soldiers eliminated 29,000 occupiers, this is even more than the soviet union lost in nine years of war in afghanistan darina bila tv channel espresso why are we going back to our eiter and our informational marathon because i love it so much you are a marathon ter that's the only way friends love our spelling we love our ukraine and we love our traditions our culture in general, we actually love our motherland , that's what ukraine is called, you know. by the way, they forgot to look, well, they take, for example, they say that up to a million ukrainians were taken to russia, so, well , they hope that these people are they are assimilated into russia, so they will become russians, because

you are you, what is the process of ukrainian human rights defender larisa announced, so she says that they are doing themselves a favor, of course, because they are sending such a huge bubu, yes, a million of them, now they are like that, they are like that they will sit quietly for another six months, during this time they will buy kalashnikov assault rifles, you can also buy them in russia anywhere, you know, they are sold there, well, from under this one, under the counter, well, such an old one will be cleaned, then they just write in a telegram where to start and that’s it russia will simply fall apart from the inside, it is our partisans, in fact, the main thing here is the informational influence, the fact that our fellow citizens who find themselves in the russian hinterland have a very powerful influence on the minds of the very christians of russian society convey to them the truth about the events in ukraine, this is also impossible this factor should not be taken into account, but now we have a little inclusion on a different topic serhiy zgurets, a military expert,

we are on skype with us, congratulations mr. serhiy defense express, this is a traditional inclusion eh 8:45-8:50 on our air on serhiy on may 23, the second meeting of the heads of the defense departments of the countries of the contact group regarding ukraine, which is called rammstein 2 for short, was held. yes, 20 countries announced new packages of defense aid to ukraine . harpoon ship missiles and launchers for them from denmark, the us secretary of defense lloyd austin officially informed about this, what to expect and what will be our progress in order to overcome the naval blockade of russia in the black sea thanks to the harpoons, i am asking for your word. the rammstein ii meeting was indeed historic from the point of view of the fact that it testifies to the expansion of the number of countries that are ready to provide assistance to ukraine in the fight against

russian aggression. 47 countries participated, 20 of them announced new packages, and indeed, as a result of the meeting, lloyd austin announced about some interesting proposals that were implemented precisely as a result of this meeting, in particular, it is precisely the readiness to transfer data to ukraine against ship -based harpoon missiles in coastal execution because how we we know that harpoon missiles have a special feature, they are mainly designed for use primarily from sea platforms, and this raised certain questions about how and where we will use these pumpkins if they are sea missiles. denmark is currently the only country that has two batteries of coastal harpoons in service but it’s a little bit better because the versions with a range of up to 123 km expect that we will definitely get one such battery and we have a battery not to mention one command car, two

launch cars and there are transporters now charging machines, that is, it is actually an important step. but in my opinion, it is not enough to fully use the potential of these weapons. i think that natalya is a possible option when there can be an integration of harpoons with our neptune. which can use a harpoon and thus this will be the first step towards unlocking, first of all, the black sea parks, in particular odessa, where the blockade is taking place with the participation of russian ships russian ships are already afraid to come to the coast after the cruiser moscow was destroyed by a neptune missile, but still russia's policy remains unchanged in terms of blocking the supply of

grain from our ports, and this is already a real issue for the world and even at the meeting at the rammstein ii monastery, austin and milli talked about the fact that the unblocking of ports is an urgent task for the entire world community, that is precisely in this vein. yesterday there was a very interesting report that lithuania actually called for the creation of even such an international coalition which would not have a direct relationship with nato and where countries that are not part of the alliance could be included, etc., in order to unblock free access to odesa itself and the ukrainian seaports by military means, since this is truly a global problem and forest tracks as far as i understand supported this idea, they said that from now on, the last word for these united states is how important is this message, how do you evaluate all of this? at yesterday's meeting, the issue of food

security was raised quite actively, which indicates that the best of me and the usa and nato understand that the issue. in counteraction from russia, it is not only a fight against the russian military potential, it is a fight against such risks as the food threat , the energy threat, the migration threat a threat that is produced directly by the actions of the russian federation. at the same time, one of the components of e-e food security threat, let's say, really needs efforts that must be non-standard. i think that this proposal from the baltic countries on the part of britain, it should receive such an unusual and unexpected format that should ensure maximum efficiency in the matter of unblocking ports, because we are now going in a linear way, trying to cover the threat only at the expense of anti-ship complexes , it is repeated that one battery will not be enough, which means that a larger-scale effort is needed which really minimize the risks of blocking ports

. i think so if we have a continuation of these proposals in somewhat interesting and non-standard solutions with the participation of nato countries and the united states states and other countries that are not part of nato so that , conditionally speaking, turkey would give permission for the passage of military ships and, for example, they would volunteer for this, because i don't know, well, a certain number of cruisers and frigates are needed, it is possible to pull up an aircraft carrier, or it would not be easy a direct solution to this issue at the expert level of the verbs that grain is exported from odesa, where significant amounts of grain that need light in territorial waters are blocked, and absolutely this is exactly the issue to raise at the meeting with mili de journalists asked him yesterday whether us ships are ready to provide such escorts. he said that

we do not have us ships in the black sea yet. the question is, the role of turkey in this component can be really decisive. it is interesting that while the russians only talk about the fact that they are fighting in ukraine with the use of state-of-the-art laser systems, the usa successfully carried out tests the developer claims that such a laser system can destroy not only mines, but also rockets and artillery shells, the laser weapon system itself has been successfully tested and this is reported by hm defense express with reference to the publication on pylormiceks when to expect such a weapon in ukraine , every time, when, the

russians say something like that, what are we here, super-duper weapons , they share that they don’t have masha at all, and immediately the americans show the base, then it is ok, in fact , the situation with laser weapons is a separate interesting topic but in this context, i will say that literally six months ago, a similar test was conducted in israel, where there are mobile air defense systems using e-e laser energy, i think that israel . i think that the first step of israel's participation in the defense of ukraine may include the transfer of such complexes from the american competition . a minute to summarize the first three months of the war. well, in fact, we saw that

the world's second army is a fake . since 2014, our army has acquired significant capabilities due to our training and cooperation with nato specialists . and the united states. now we have a situation where we maintain a defense there on a line there of 900 km and we have the opportunity due to the support of western countries to ensure active offensive offensive actions . territories, three months of war have shown that we are capable of doing it qualitatively, and i think that victory will be ours. thank you very much, mr. serhiy, it's great. serhiy zgurets was on the air, a military expert of the most terrible mornings, and we discussed the extremely important section we are the results of

rammstein ii and i would like to remind you that the third will not be delayed because it will take place already on june 25. will be delivered regularly, the ministers of defense and more than 20 countries will monitor it, so now we start a minute of silence at 9:00 and remember all those who died in the battles for ukraine, all civilian victims of the russian war in ukraine, a minute of silence for espresso, we will honor the memory with a minute of silence ukrainian military and civilian citizens of ukraine who died