let's tell you that there is a new statement that a defeat in the war will be the end of everything for russia, this is a constant narrative of russian propaganda, in the last few days propagandists tried to find new explanations why the russian federation cannot lose and found very exotic ones, for example, the vice-speaker of the state duma of the russian federation saw something encouraging for himself in the gray hair of anthony blinken's best efforts are a waste, because no ukraine they help will no longer be useful, you know how blinken passed, he was a brunette when he entered this position, his grandfather is from odessa, whose savior is a negro, and that's all story well, what do you see, he became an old gray-haired man, they no longer understand what kind of world they are in . they find them, they turn gray and settle down. and we will win,

well , let's show our real life. we are with you unfortunately, we are forced to discuss, they are trying to bring trouble to the russian land, they are doing it, no, no, but it’s successful . in the form in which we are, or we are not able to achieve what was before the 24th, it’s still the end because we are united, we will be with you in kiev, drink coffee, don’t worry everything will be fine like that dreams but it won’t work out that’s why defeat is perceived as the end existence because the war is still not even on the territory of the russian federation why such painful experiences here is the answer in the essence of racism, we all need to say it

out loud and admit that russia is a fascist state and its real ideology is fascism, yes, a few days ago, yale university professor timati to snyder in his column for the new york times. in his opinion, today's russian federation meets most of the criteria. there is a cult around a single leader , vladimir putin. there is a cult of the dead organized around world war ii . in the essence of ukraine, russians are fighting for the opportunity to feel their own supremacy over the whole world, it doesn't matter in which anthem. they live in reality - an individual russian can be an absolute loser, but the idea that they are afraid of their army and the dictator compensates the russians for their own inferiority on this compensation, fascism is built because the defeat of pechenism is to a certain extent the loss of one's own place in the world for every orthodox racist, these ani believe that we will

definitely lose and the west will definitely win without understanding that this is impossible, well, this it's simply impossible, it won't happen, or it'll end very badly for all of humanity, or we'll win the third one, it's not given when i ask how long our alienation will last opposition to the west, i have only one version , guys, it’s forever, just get used to this new life, i can’t listen to the lowly stuff anymore, it’s a pity, it’s a pity for the children, it’s a pity that this is what you’re pitying about uh but many people are sorry that they won’t study in the west anymore they will not be opened in front of them now. this is a strange new world. they are now a little bit like that. it will be closed. i say dry people. it is necessary to rejoice. thank you very much that my child never studied

in the west and he will never have such a chance again because at least he will remain my child and a normal person so that no matter how we behave, we have this confrontation with them in our life a very strange victory, after which the russians need to crawl into their hole like cockroaches and not come out from there, moreover, they are already ready to accept any explanation and any lie, there are people who say that putin should be allowed to save face, we will see later an illustration of the fact that in reality there is no such need. putin can withdraw his troops tomorrow and say that this is a victory, and russian propagandists are already explaining why it will be right. success must remain on our side and we must give the opportunity to no one at any cost. yes with this success , they will

laugh about what kind of goal we have. misunderstanding, you can say that some intrigue, mistakes, or treachery will turn out to be, as it were. yes, that is the position in which she found herself, well, after all, she was betrayed at the expense of the whole. i think that, unfortunately , it will be. it will be possible to say that this will work and then the element will be announced, of course it is not very happy, but i think that most likely this is exactly how it will happen, and with the fact that three months of course because there will be ukrainian political issues appeared in the next generation, this is ideal, don't worry, too. what generation did they actually come because of whom, because we don't know what the next generation will be . но тем не меня well, in fact, this is what you know about the next generation, it's interesting because it's such a lack of confidence in general that

this whole story is going to have some kind of continuation , they're trying to make time for something now, why didn't they understand even if their next generation may not need all this, and another interesting nuance that i noticed recently is that in which tony and what they are trying to tell about, well, actually ukrainians, this is something that has started to appear synchronously and in parallel in the russian media field, look, please, i have served a large number of people in western ukraine, and to be honest, this is a problem with enthusiasm for me, precisely because it is a kind of reality. i remember talking to them perfectly, i say. let's talk about literature there well here is pushkin dostoyevsky tolstoy they tell me and who are these if whom you studied and we

say they studied franko there are some of them there shevchenko there are galician writers i say that it is true that it is here that you have some other textbooks not the ones i went to school with. yes, our teachers tell us something completely different. this is the soviet union - this is the ukrainian soviet socialist republic. this is the soviet army. well, this is literally fresh, but in parallel, more old, look, but this is the same topic, my sister stayed with them. when my mother couldn’t work, their children stayed with us when they couldn’t. he ’s a western ukrainian. what do you think? nina, that ’s if it’s going to be. o-o-o and here we are sitting

eh and i looked at the dnieper, there are graves floating along it, and in each of them it is about a muscovite. well, there are good people there, good people. so i say that good, good muscovites are good, good, that’s all of soviet time i told you this, i told you, i said времени это читаетесал жизться угу, мы не былы нейдый это э-э э-э мать городов русских э-э kiev это всё описать из серии праймайте легенды well, you understand now it's trying to tell everything as if well, all this was from soviet times, why suddenly it didn't quite make sense, uh, and i didn't

quite understand this whole topic at all. now it's clear that this is done in order to once again emphasize that something is wrong with ukrainians in general , and now this opposition they are trying to explain for themselves, well, it was a long time ago maybe we're not talking about it they knew, but then they suddenly remembered. well, this is such a painful thing, and this thing, you know, can disappear like again. the same snyder said only in one case, when the leader of this culture will collapse, when he will be defeated, but only directly by putin himself these efforts will force them to rethink their place in the world. well, only this, in principle, will be able to somehow change them, well, that's the way

it is. social psychologist oleg pokalchyk, is he, uh, is he in touch with us, let's see oh , congratulations, oleg, have a good day. so, tell me this. so, when during the war, a propagandist says that we will win, that's in principle normal. well, she should say so. i i mean what is constantly playing on russian tv right now. we recently watched what he says. well, let's say the person is well-known, but when they draw a victory, what is life like in isolation? there is such barbed wire, crocodiles and they say that the russians are not going anywhere. can stumble from one's own concentration camp and it's happiness to live in a concentration camp, then such a picture of the world, in principle, it has little resemblance to victory in such a case, what kind of worldview is it and how

can it inspire someone in the 61st year, german psychologist anna arend e-e proposed the term banal housing, she researched the psychology of racism, being herself a victim of nazism. and her actual conclusion is that this kind of behavior is based on the lack of thinking, in principle, on the direction of vitalization, the stronger we try to find there some rational grain of some kind of explanation motivation, the more we fall into the trap of our own intelligence, this is all extremely primitive, and this primitiveness is not something that should be said specifically , separately, for a country taken separately, it is a phenomenon

because it was studied. by the way, during the nuremberg tribunal, they psychiatrist we must have a tribunal, what did lt. col. kelly do , he wrote a book, uh, two books from this period, but what he uh, he studied, forced him to commit suicide a few years later , because the penalty was that, unlike assumptions, just like you and i , the nazis were not found to have significant psychiatric diseases, they were mentally healthy people who committed evil, who lived in a world of evil, which was normal and acceptable for them, so what exactly is the drama of such a situation? explanations of russians began to appear, what are ukrainians? they have always been different since soviet times.

they had their own education there and they immersed themselves in some strange discourse of theirs. what is this? why are they now suddenly starting to activate this same one? such is the discourse of the russians and er well, in principle, what conclusion should we draw from this practically er russians treat ukrainians the same way you treat jews, ours should not exist from their point of view and those that will not remain exist they should be such pets and domestic animals, ah, with whom, in principle, you can see settling down . well, yesterday, putin appeared, and putin appeared, this is the traditional attitude of russians to such stupid people. attachment, if i repeat myself from reality, there is no need to invent some russian psychology

, this was all researched many years ago on the psychology of nazism, and here, well, there is absolutely nothing, there is absolutely nothing, there are no special differences, so absolutely none . to the success of the strategy, which is based on the expectation of some kind of internal uprising of the trees, that the russian people will rise up, that there will be a revolution or something like that, but what do you think, is it possible to repeat the coup in russia in the 17th year, if at all, then it is possible between a coup and a revolution, a coup, a coup can be a palace coup. after all, for that, it is not necessary to throw into a civil war. the fact that the masses of the people, in principle, decide something very strongly, the masses of the people can be used by those who decide something, this is true. then there is a

revolution and coups, including those based, as it were, on the will of the people, but for the most part the masses do not want to return anything, even if they live very badly, and this is also empirically proven that no economic pressures, sanctions of the president, etc., do not lead to a change in political regimes, changes in political regimes occur through the influence of those people for whom such a change is beneficial. so, all my life is somehow a matter of reasoning, so i wouldn’t entertain myself with some illusions. a coup may have taken place. there may have been a seizure of power. nothing will change for us. for us, it will not change anything, and the psychology of muscovites’ attitude towards ukrainians will only remain . the same as the nazis had before the jews, well, it's fine if the coup doesn't change

anything for us, and what will change anything for us then, here's how i understood it, how to describe it, we'd mind our own business, actually there's a wall that the poles are still building from belarus into a wall well, it’s fine, it’s fine, it’s fine, it’s fine, 15 m of mine wire is still how it should be. well, that’s all, and forget to forget you, not about the existence of this territory, which is possible. well, they will still climb correctly . well, that's it already since i am 50 years old or more in the 47th year, uh, i want your story like india so far well, there is no wall there, but they are constantly fighting for cashmere, how does israel live ? for 30 years and we all

believed that it would always be like this, it wouldn’t be like this if this freebie ended heavenly now we will live like this and pomerantsev said that uh, in these times, when the hot phase of the war is going on, it is not the time to convince anyone ideologically of something that in fact then all efforts should be directed to changing the behavior of the enemy, well, what concrete actions could there be, do you support this opinion, what could be such concrete actions, on which we should direct our energy, he knows well the history of the propaganda of world war ii, british, american, he knows, he knows the worst one must be said , but with the british, you are very good at dealing with it, and i would say from the point of view that any influence on behavior should be pursued because we very often in ukraine describe the

process itself as a result, so we want to talk to someone he and i are being listened to and this is already our victory, absolutely no, if behavior changes, if the economic situation changes from yesterday , the military situation, then this is influence on the state for this, well, actually, the state exists for this, which also influences the behavior of other people, diplomacy, war and other things and such, well, social communication, i absolutely do not believe in it, what do you know, liberal fictions, civil society, it has a very strong influence there, and something can magically be changed , according to that time and moment, snyder believes that it is possible to change the essence of the regime of judges, the idea of ​​russians about life. only if in reality the leader actually collapses, that is, if putin is shown that he really lost. how do you think it will really

affect it, it's not about the leader, that's all such fantasies that some demonic putin hypnotized 140 million people and when he dies or is replaced there, everything will somehow change. well, that’s not true . it is written by other people, that's why. well, you don't need to entertain illusions that putin's disappearance will in what way change the psychology of the attitude of russians towards ukrainian women , which was formed not now, it happened after the bolshevik coup of 17th, this country has been sliding into a moral abyss for decades there is no chasm, it’s not, it’s not in 20 years, i became aware of this. this is all. this is all the bolshevik contagion that was felt then. this is moral degradation. this

atheism is the destruction of one’s own intelligentsia. wars, what about all over the world, this happened not yesterday, a generation of upbringing in this reality is a country of nazis, who is there to talk to, good russians, they will eat you, which is faster than putin , if very briefly, because we have almost no time, it is good there is some condition about which the deconstruction of racism will take place, that is how the worldview is, it is necessary to understand that there is no such country, there is no russian federation. if suddenly, in some fantastic way, russian nationalists whose reality no longer exists, but i remember the end there 80s, which are really accepted because they have their own republics. if suddenly it means that this bicycle is electrically folded into the subjects of the federation, suddenly there appears some kind of russia inside

these e-e from muscovy are formed and so on , some kind appears country and where do these russians actually live, good russians, and then after that you can think about the meaning of talking about something there, not a fact. i wouldn't say it. but maybe there in 20-30 years. well, maybe it makes some sense to him and only in these circumstances where the construction of the country e-e in this in the form in which it is and according to its reset along federal e lines or in general the dissolution and what what was going to be done. by the way, take down with germany the report on the plan marshal ot thus clearly thank you, it was oleg pokalchuk, a social military psychologist thank you well, we all then let's get closer , who can, the very deconstruction of the russian federation, on this today, thank you all, the war in

ukraine, the main topic for ukrainians, victories and losses, analysis and forecasts, politics and geopolitics , serhiy rudenko and his guests will talk about all this programs people who have information and shape public opinion people who defend ukraine and create the future right now the main and interesting thing in the program is the verdict by serhiy rudenko from monday to thursday at 1:00 p.m. repeat at 9:30 p.m. we continue our live broadcast on espresso tv channel we talk about all the events of our wartime and maria gurska and andriy saichuk work for you in the studio, don’t forget we will have a turn-on, we will talk with vitaly tytych, the lawyer of the families of the heroes of the

heavenly hundred and the senior sergeant of the armed forces forces of ukraine, let's talk about the case of shishimarin, the first russian soldier who was sentenced for crimes against the civilian population. meanwhile, we see that the general staff reports on the losses of the russian occupiers. 29,300 russian soldiers were officially lost by russia in the war against ukraine. we actually understand that the calculation is complicated by the introduction of combat troops. actions, however, we counted exactly how many russian soldiers, well, and also if we talk about fresh news, the second day of the world economic forum in davos is going on right now, we will talk about it to communicate in a moment already after the news release at 10:00 with the participants of the forum from ukraine and with those politicians who are currently in davos and they can actually talk about the atmosphere that

prevails there, let us remind you that this year the forum is taking place without guests from russia and instead of the traditional traditional parties in the russian house in davos, where the crimes of the russian army against ukraine are exposed so that all participants of the forum from different parts of the world can see with their own eyes what putin is doing in ukraine and the criminals he sends here to kill our uh, our military, our civilian population below and our cities, and i will carry out my genocide here, but in the meantime, we see that transnistria announced a new terrorist attack and blamed the moldovan security forces . news maker and the so-called ministry of the unrecognized republic published

a story, information diversion, terrorist attack in tiraspol , about a joint investigation of various power structures of transnistria, we remind you that the enemy does not leave the hybrid the activity of its security forces in transnistria and is trying in every way to carry out hybrid terrorist attacks there with the hands of its own intelligence and its security forces in order to distract the attention of the armed forces of ukraine to one degree or another. in particular, to somehow try to activate the map of transnistria, what do we have to do with the first guest, actually, with whom we will talk today, about the case of the russian military officer shishimarin, who received a life sentence yesterday's imprisonment for the murder of a ukrainian and let's listen to vitaliy tychyna's opinion regarding this sentence lawyers from the heroes of the heavenly hundred p vitali well

, good day, first of all good day, secondly, let's remind you that well, in short, we are talking about the case when the russian military received the criminal order killed a 67-year-old man with an automatic rifle because, as it seemed to his commander, he could transmit some data to the armed forces of ukraine while talking on the phone, although the occupiers did not have any confirmation of such a theory it was and this 21-year-old russian soldier executed the order and killed a man and now he has received a life sentence. what is your view on this case? what do you think about the verdict of this russian soldier and the initiation of the case itself? this case is really important. how would you say it is the first attempt after the start of a full-scale

invasion of a non-combatant that has been going on for the eighth year? this, too , must be remembered now in the context of this case and all the cases that preceded it. this is very the important thing was the case itself, it is very primitive, very simple, let's say, for both the investigation and the trial, well, it is a unique case that we are unlikely to have in other proceedings, the accused is at the stage of investigation and trial experience, this it was established by the court, including in the verdict, he cooperated with the investigation, admitted his guilt, gave evidence, answered all questions, therefore, uh, all his testimony and the testimony of other witnesses, uh, were confirmed by objective evidence, therefore, i repeat for the sake of the pre-trial investigation and trial, this case was

very easy, but there are a lot of questions that i have and there are very serious reservations about the future. the actions of the participants in the process, in particular the defense, are causing some concern. it is obvious that the court decided to operate very quickly for some reason, and i don’t know what factors. i hope that there were some reasons to do it so quickly, but at this speed, it was lost

absolutely, quality, quality, as at the stage of this separate trial, quite serious procedural things were admitted that cannot be said like that now. even a non-lawyer raises questions. obviously, the crime was committed with complicity and at the same time the accomplice was involved as a prosecution witness. what is wrong with him is not clear . what is his status in general ? in general, what is his role in this crime

? he was no longer detained. he is on the territory of russia, yes, vitaliy, we don't have much time left. i will clarify that russia was excluded by the betrayal of europe and the parliamentary assembly of the council of europe voted for it because of the war in ukraine as a result of the european courts of human rights will not be able to consider an application from russian citizens, well, this is bad news, first of all , for the russian occupiers, yes, and the more bad news for them is that after the ukrainian judges, they will be tried by an international criminal the court in gas, what is needed for this? what is missing , the question, er, now i would like to clarify the process is poorly organized and obvious, as the defense of this error said, which mistakes were made, they will be the subject of consideration by the european court, since ukraine is, er, let's say part of this agreement, it is er- e made a commitment and the question is not about a citizen of the russian federation or citizens, but which ukrainian courts