in this, we see mr. andriy, you are absolutely right , this is the right time, right now is the right time, because the occupiers and collaborators must know clearly what is waiting for them, this also makes them nervous and also affects the situation. in the manner of the liberation of ukraine, the return of crimea, and zelenskyi said on facebook literally yesterday evening that he managed to, during a speech at the davol forum, quote that liberating crimea by military means will cost a lot of losses, and he he said that to the journalist's question whether ukraine can visit crimea, the president will point out that such a move by the president has resulted in the death of a large number of soldiers. the president said this today. i am sure that hundreds of thousands of soldiers have been killed on our side. say everything, note what he said. for

today, this is it. that is, as of now, and how do you think it will happen? p. anatoliy, please. well, in fact, we must use all the possibilities and when it comes to the military and political leadership the country should also prepare for a military scenario, but make the most of other opportunities, including the legislators, that is, the status of crimea, the status of property in crimea, the status of these colonizers of crimea, and clearly define them according to ukrainian legislation and clearly describe how do we offer them to go home, and what concerns the russian troops on the territory of the occupied crimea, too? well, you need to understand the psychology of this large number of soldiers who, well

tighten the seas, er, this bridge is also er, there are no unlimited possibilities for evacuation from the other side through chingar, of course, we will not let them out, and therefore, in order for them not to feel trapped in some kind of trap, we must clearly say that if you make weapons, the state gives a guarantee that the exit there is clear with the families and we went, that is, we must crack psychologically, the procedures must be enshrined in law, and definitely well, i believe that you are a process that somehow happens in the russian federation, you must constantly give certain messages well, i have information that practically flows from the first circle of putin's entourage, they believe that in the fall he

will no longer be there, but they say that we understand what will happen to donbas, we will leave, and what about crimea, and we do not understand how it is possible to return it, it is written in our constitution an impossible way out, well, i'm sorry , cancel the illegal decision about the works and that's all, that is, we have to impose a scenario, all the more so andrii that the illegality of the inclusion of crimea in the constitution of russia is recognized at the international level. he is the first in the surrounding court of lithuania - he just wrote it legally, it was published in many publications there and was approved. thank you very much for what was possible. we talked about water in the crimea so and so, but according to satellite data it is clear that the current has really

moved along the northern branch of the north crimean canal and is moving to the west of the occupied peninsula, but analysts in particular of the world data center for geoinformatics and sustainable development say that the russian occupiers did not succeed in setting up a channel water pumping system, and that in 8 years the bed of the north crimean canal actually silted up at the pine station, the concrete slabs were destroyed in many places, and therefore temporarily for agricultural needs occupied except now simply unable to receive water, all these hydrotechnical structures have been in a suitable condition for 8 years, and in fact it will take more than one year to agree that they perceived crimea at first as just a military base and everything for a further attack on ukraine, is it true , and do the occupiers have this time to recover? i would say no, because now we are talking more about what the secretary of the national security and defense council of ukraine, oleksiy

danilov, actually noted, if ukraine has the opportunity it will definitely hit the kerch bridge and we can see that we will have this opportunity from day to day." the first thing i want to ask you about is observing all this from within polish society. i want to ask how the poles perceived the president's speech

dudy in the verkhovna rada, first of all, what are the prevailing moods in society regarding this, well, many factors are happening there and for improvement there, well, there is again the simplification of border crossing, well, not united countries, but very brotherly relations between ukraine and poland, they are proposed, they are predicted and they will definitely happen how does the polish society perceive all this and, of course, the same about our refugees? what do you see, what do you do? well, i think it should be said that the polish society perceived the speech and perceives it in general russian-ukrainian uh well, through the prism of a can say so ukrainian attitude and ukrainian hospitality to duda and gratitude to the poles for what

they have done for ukrainians uh in particular since the beginning of the war that's how we are here i think that in the 30 years of the existence of independent states, we are dealing with the largest such wave of rapprochement between two countries and two peoples. it is because of the closeness of two peoples, because here it is not even a matter of knowing, first of all, about what is approaching itself very elites in political yes or state activists, and in the first place, that is, the concrete of this rapprochement, the very society of the people of the country and the politicians are simply behind them, ah, hmm, repeating . a longer foundation of the future good- neighborhood, and such can really be said. i don’t want to deliberately use the word

gatekeepers and so on, but here they also say that it’s very cool. we know that actually every day ukrainian law enforcement officers and investigative prosecutors take part in these processes the investigators of the international criminal court and the investigators of countries friendly to ukraine are actually recording new and new terrible crimes of the russian occupiers . yesterday the ombudsman lyudmila denisova presented the latest facts of such crimes by the russian army in the kherson region, and at the same time, this week the international criminal court sent new evidence of russia's crimes against the crimean tatars the press service of the prosecutor's office of the autonomous republic of crimea and sevastopol informed the people about this. actually , prosecutor e. ponochevny clarified that with the aim of the persecution of the indigenous people of crimea, the occupiers take criminal and administrative measures, restrict the right to practice their religion and

destroy cultural heritage, such as the crimes of russia in kyiv oblast, kherson oblast, kharkiv oblast and crimea. after all, different cases and different courts, how to cover all this, because we actually see such a number of these crimes and if we talk about the temporarily occupied crimea, then they are recorded already for eight years. that is, what is your comment here? as far as i understand, if we are talking here now about war crimes and crimes against humanity, then such cases are being considered by the international criminal court, and since 2014-15, crimes in russia in the donbas are already ukraine i submitted such statements and they are still ongoing here, you know, it is important to have a very accumulative

evidence base to accumulate, and to transfer this evidence base to the international court. and what, in my opinion, is more important, because you know, the international criminal court muscle court is an element of international law, the toolkit of international law, and part of which we are part of the international community, i want to say ukraine is a ukrainian state, and therefore it is very important, at least for me at the moment, that ukraine ratifies, for example, the rome statute, which gives ukraine only certain obligations, in particular regarding the recognition of all the sentences of the international criminal court, but its allocations from which the ukrainian state, for reasons that are not clear to me, is refusing so far, and here too it is very important was to ratify this status, this is such a symbolic matter, even if one-time recognition of state funding of the court in specific cases

is one thing and another. and it strengthens the position of ukraine much more strongly in the international arena of the system of international law and international relations to become a part of international this international law in that of criminal international law, in contrast to, for example, countries such as russia, which withdrew from signing the founding act of the international criminal court in 2016, if i do not i'm also wrong in connection with the fact that there was such a prospect that crimes in crimea will be considered, but this does not exempt high-ranking officials of the russian federation from pointing out against ukraine on the territory of ukraine if ukraine submits exactly a and on trial with the international criminal court for these crimes under these articles, which we are now talking about in absentia against humanity and crimes of genocide and aggression. yes, all of this falls

under the jurisdiction of the international criminal court in gaza. year of genocide and aggression were excluded, and here the question is, you know , if it is about realism, of course we also have to answer the question of whether putin can really be brought to justice. at 30 to responsibility, but already after russia suffers a defeat in ukraine, a military defeat at home, the fight is very er by the way , maria asked a good question, because i literally yesterday in the evening it's a pity, it's lithuanian, well, i already mentioned him as the chairman of the constitutional court of lithuania, and he said the same opinion that, in principle, we see the un, but it almost doesn't work like that, uh, in such wartime conditions, the osce is also

not an effective court, they are all different there in different ways their areas of work are all ultimately to be united by the creation of a tribunal for all crimes of russia, where they will enter, all of them are conditionally branches there and physical crimes there, political crimes, international crimes, crimes of genocide, that is, it should not be created, well in his opinion, i think he has right, and even several western european countries can do it there first, and then join this future tribunal. whoever wants to can join it, and that will put an end to the issue of whether it is possible to communicate with putin or not, and it will make it clear to those people who are here that's why we have these pipes, what will happen to them, including propagandists, etc. i want to know what might be a bit strange question, but i believe that this may also be part of the chain of

crimes of russia since then when there is a lot about it who said something or is there any news about president kaczyński's plane, in which a large part of the polish political elite died there. i heard that there is some more news from the investigation of this crime, it seems that the russians never gave the fuselage of the ship to poland and that's all in every way they do not contribute to the investigation from their side, well, the investigative commission that investigated the circumstances of this disaster has completed its work, and one of the theses can be said to be such a normal official test, of course, because officially, the commission was impartial , but the fact was that there the board took place purely on board

whether there was an explosion overboard, er, in our country, the result of which was an accident and the fall of the plane, this is where i have to say. just so as not to indulge in conspiracy theories, because we still do not have er, final clarity regarding the conclusions of this commission a- and she, this commission, this case in general is now a hostage. if the hostage of the political corinthura in poland is so, well, the opposition force and the legal coalition, the ruling party is more interested in proving some news to russia, the opposition tried to justify its actions at that time er, in which they admitted that it was just an accident, an accident. and here, if it certainly doesn't help the objectivity of the investigation, i don't want to say anything now, because there is no final clarity. so far, there is no political assembly going on in polish society, but you have to admit that they knew as

a result of russian aggression against ukraine, the number of people who simply tend to believe that russia was at least touristically capable of shooting down a polish plane in its own sky is increasing . the process that lasted for several years, the so-called great nuremberg, i did not know that there were 24 defendants and there were 12 death sentences in total and three life sentences - this is a huge process against the ideologues of nazism, over those who are at the very top of the nazi the military and the gestapo are interested in how this process takes place, of course, in the international criminal court in gaza regarding modern military war criminals, and let me remind you that just outside kyiv, the sbu has already exposed 900

soldiers of the russian army involved in torture ukrainians in the meantime if we are talking about polish affairs, well, i would like to hear from you how poland is now, which opens up so many opportunities for ukrainians for this wave of our immigrants who find their own shelter in european countries, especially in our friendly poland, how do they look in poland opportunities for crimean tatars, in particular, opportunities in matters such as learning the native language for children and attending school, please share how this life looks like for those crimean tatars who have arrived now and who came earlier during these 8 years, what tools are there so that they are comfortable,

hmm , it was to live and function in society. gives well about the children about the students there is conducted well here it is worth first of all to say about the students because the largest number are precisely the students from the crimea crimean tatars who are currently studying in cities, different cities throughout the whole of poland can be said to be the most prestigious in universities in poland from gdańsk and poznań to wroclaw and krakow to warsaw, from master's forms of education to postgraduate studies and so on. the artist said very aptly that the main thing for us now is to create all the conditions for such young people to get an education and return to ukraine and return to the crimea, which artists believe that we will return it to the composition of ukraine and it was rebuilt, and in the future it will be in the

same way and we can say without a key that we have all been living in 2014 for 8 years now these are our hopes that history has accelerated a little and that crimea believe it sooner than it seemed to us before this war, they increased even more, because despite all the tragedy of this war, the war we wanted, it has now turned out to be a big one for the kremlin regime, also, to a large extent, and there is hope that this education that we now we are getting it, our youth is getting it in poland, it will be needed in the future for poland, on the one hand, poland understands that it is, if you know, a gesture of goodwill already of solidarity, which as solidarity, the concept of how e-e value is one. i think that the most important such export a product of polish soft power, so after 1989 , but this solidarity, on the other hand, poles

understand what it is to have in the person of ukrainians and the ukrainian people, the ukrainian state, a military partner with whom you can then conduct a dialogue on different areas, areas, areas, so that is, on the economic, political or also on the historical and this is a very effective tool if the publication of the policy is also in the interests of the national interest of poland and the crimean tatars who will become such a lawyer even if poland was sent to crimea in the future this is for poland a very strong strategic contribution and contribution by polish society and polish politicians. this is how they think strategically. here in the west in general, people are used to thinking strategically not about today and tomorrow, but about the day after tomorrow and what will happen in a year, 10 years, of course ukraine does not think like that now maybe ukraine must first of all protect its territory and its people, but this is a way of thinking, a way of thinking that i think the ukrainian people and

ukrainian political elites will follow in the future. thank you, we hope the representative of the coordination council of the world congress of crimean tatars from poland, was in touch with us. thank you, mr. dima, and right now we have the next inclusion of the deputy minister for reintegration, digital transformation, in touch with us . i want to ask in this case, this is a very important direction, i imagine your ministry is currently working, many additional questions have been added to you , well, because of the war, er, because of the great attack of russia, but i wonder what, er, what direction of your own are you taking now, separately, i want to ask about the program for the development of the crimean language, which was approved last year, and now many children are, well, there are refugees, are we in ukraine or abroad, and if

your direction is digital, this is exactly the transformation, uh, how will they teach continue to teach the crimean language in such, well, completely remote conditions, who is in the redeemed crimea, who is under occupation in the kherson region, who is there, please, yes, it is really our ministry now, uh, well, we take care of internal displacement, of course, and also in we have a new one, first of all, the work of the national information bureau, which is currently dealing with the issues of the prisoners, among them the missing, the dead, and military and civilian, as well as deported citizens, that is, from our side, we accompany the infrastructure of this minute of the process

so that all e-e cases are recorded in a timely manner in the register of relevant e-e information exchange with other authorities, that is, this new work is currently underway, of course we work in such commercial areas as internally displaced persons persons up to this moment, before the war, we had about 1.5 million intra-pyramidal persons, now there are about seven million persons. in fact, before yura, it is more than three million, and due to all these internal transfers of persons, there are now questions and payments and other provision eh together with other ministries we are working in this direction and also of

course eh we did not stop the development of the languages ​​of the indigenous peoples, in particular the crimean taran language, you know what the hell one day before the start of military aggression on the part of russia against ours the government of the state approved a strategy for the development of the crimean tatar language for 10 years, and now we continue to carry out this activity in accordance with this strategy, first of all, we plan , together with the forest, to introduce the day of the crimean tatar language and literature within the framework of this work has already been carried out with an environment specifically academic on this issue , and also within the track on this activity, we have

planned to conduct remote lessons for learning the crimean tatar language and do it on the all-ukrainian schools of america platform, that is, there are projects, and by the way, we are now completing the preparation of the corpus of the crimean tatar language, this is more of an academic academic resource that will be the foundation for making and creating interpretive dictionaries and other there is more in-depth research on this issue , that is, of course, thank you, there is another moment when you say that your profile includes our deported fellow citizens, namely, those who were kidnapped and

forcibly taken from the territory of ukraine to russia we know that our fellow citizens are being dispersed specially, they are russianizing the russian hinterland, the children are being given to some families there, and now they will urgently force the issue of their adoption , all these are signs of genocide, and we know from human rights defenders that russia is thus trying to overcome its own demographic problems and simply steal our human resources, our intellectual potential, our genetic resources , how is the work of the ministry in relation to these fellow citizens of ours, are there any measures that we can now carry out for them the return or relief of their situation in this, in fact, in these hostages, and one more

problem - this is the overcoming of the information vacuum by our fellow citizens who were forcibly deported. so we know how russian propaganda actively works and sprinkles everything with such a rod in russia itself, and is there actually any data as for how many manage to overcome these barriers and obtain objective information, including in the temporarily occupied territories, and actually take steps to save themselves, so our ministry was under a road map has been prepared regarding the direction of all activities in the direction of e-e ensuring rights and compensation well, not compensation for the payment of benefits for deported citizens will now be reflected in the

new normative-legal normative-legal acts and i know that a separate law is also being prepared in the walls of the parliament, which will to regulate this entire area because it also concerns personal data and the collection of all this within the framework of a unified register of deported persons. that is, all these issues are currently being worked out, there is a vision that the state will help and pay out information and also create an informative message so that our citizens who are deported by such a harsh method without their will to the russian federation, to belarus, as well as to other parts of the temporarily occupied territories of our

state, that is, to all these in order for people to have a vision, we know that it is not easy, because we do not have consular, embassy, ​​etc. institutions there on the territory of the glorious aggressor. therefore, now yes, in such a situation, that is, citizens are forced, for one reason or another the state or through other ways to get to ukraine to other free places and it is very difficult, but the message from our side is that the state is ready to help it financially and also in the future to implement that there is justice and justice is also restored it is a violation of the rights of our citizens, the deputy minister for reintegration of the temporarily occupied territories of ukraine for

digital development, digital transformations and digitalization was in touch with us. thank you, mr. novera. on our broadcasts, in general, because what should our citizens who found themselves in the occupation or were deported to the territory of russia, human rights defenders, joy, above all, to those who already found themselves in the russian hinterland, were forcibly deported to the territory of the russian federation, still look for a way out for ukrainian human rights defenders through any means what country were there examples of when people got to europe through japan, to europe in particular, poland, which was not discussed in this program , is very hospitable and accepts people. that is, you are definitely there don't leave them there alone and they will take care of you and it will be really right don't stay in russia it's completely hopeless, by the way