prodigal presenters about culture during the war lina is ready to speak or other presenters who have become familiar to many, maybe the weather will give us some optimism ms. natalka didenko is ready to tell us, and we will also have a distinguished guest of the studio today, volodymyr grishko, if everything goes well , the events of the day will be in two hours, vasyl's big broadcast in winter , a project for smart and caring people in the evening , naispresso, good evening. we are from ukraine, and this is the verdict program. my name is serhiy rudenko . good day and good health to all. today is 90 days. according to the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine, 150 russian occupiers and nine tanks were eliminated during the great confrontation of the ukrainian people against the russian occupation during the past day in ukraine. since the beginning of the war, the russians have already

lost 29,350 personnel in our country , tanks, 1,302 units of armored combat vehicles, 3,194 of artillery systems 606 rocket systems of salvo fire 201 means of air defense 93 helicopters 170 aircraft 205 motor vehicles 2213 ships boats 13 cruise missiles 112 drones 480 special equipment 43 units about the three months of the great war of russia against ukraine today we are talking with a politician and diplomat about the immortal novel glory to ukraine mr. romana i am glad to see you and welcome you in our program glory to the heroes good day to you so 90 days of the great war of russia against ukraine for 30 days of this

great war, you were under russian occupation. therefore, i will allow myself to ask a question : what does this war look like in the occupation and outside it, it looks like any other war when your main opponent is an enemy who completely disregards the rules and customs or, in short, the international norms of law that relate to the initiation of wars, and this is the most dangerous, the most terrible , and the most clearly visible when you are in the regime of occupation, because despite the fact that the russian federation ratified signed ratified all these acts and everything that is happening in this war by the

aggressor is a complete violation of the foundations of international humanitarian law, the so-called hague law, geneva law and and if every ukrainian soldier a carries out the order of the minister of defense, which concerns the implementation of the norms of international law for every soldier and, accordingly, the memo and, accordingly, the work is carried out in the units of the armed forces of ukraine, it is clear from them that the russians are deliberately telling them to create eyes of patriarchy in order to create in defiance of the norms of international law and what we saw in buch, irpen, makarov, and now we see borodyans from motyzhin in mariupol, in other settlements that were occupied, and all this is evidence that the

russian military clique is just a horde. barbarians are wild from the point of view of compliance with international norms, the right to implement these norms of international law and in relation to the military, to prisoners of war, to the civilian population, e-e, in relation to historical monuments, a-a, social and cultural buildings, so on, you know, you can do this look simply as a human being and condemn it and hate the russian army and the russian leadership, but it must also be looked at from the point of view of legal experts and the fact that both in the first and in the second part - this requires condemnation by the international by the tribunal, this requires public condemnation and public review because it is in some parts

much worse, much deeper than what was done and created in the occupied territory during the second world war by the nazi mr. romane ukraine for the second time during the last 80 years, it is under occupation and under or separate parts of ukraine, and we see the actions and consequences of these actions of the nazis, the russian nazis, when we talk about those people who came to the territory of the ukrainian state, we are talking about the fact that the majority of them are obliged on russian television and one way or another we talk about what russia can be like without putin, does the removal of putin from power mean that russia can change, or does this russia need a complete reformation because it is clear that

the leadership of the russian state can be changed, but is it possible to put people's brains back? visited the nightingale program mixer and the same skabeeva, in addition to the zombification that is perpetrated against the russians through the mass media, there is also a-a and it is visible communication with them, the work of military pilots and, in fact, what we heard there first months and well, such theses got lost, went to study and so on, all this was absolutely clear, clearly stated involved phrases that were pressed on us by military personnel, like many others that we hear from russian prisoners of war and rank-and-file and officers, but the second part of

the question is much more important what did you ask and what struck me? none of the representatives of these ethnic groups of peoples and nations identify themselves as representatives, as representatives of the people, let's say bashkirs, tatars, mordovians , mariians, and all of them for some reason consider themselves by russians and this is where the great tragedy and great problem of these peoples begins, because people who do not identify themselves as representatives of a certain ethnic group , and such a being abandons his set of values, because this means that he has no ethnic, religious, national roots, that

is, traditions are completely lost there. customs, and this means there is no morality as such, if there is no morality, it is not a person, it is a creature, it means that the regime, the totalitarian regime, can use this person to instigate in any way by bringing these creatures to poverty for a small piece of bread, they can be sent anywhere, for anything, and they will create the most rude outrages. constant conversations were held among them, and i had to hear about how much you earn, how much you earn, and what you have . on the one hand, these conversations, and on the other hand, the crime, that is, everything that lies and everything that could be stolen, everything is stolen, everything is stolen,

and uh, there are some broken ones, ending with safes, which broke out with meat from people and immediately cut themselves, although well, who leaving his own the house will be everything and leave some money or jewels there and so on. and watch these riots. and it was possible only when you realize that you are dealing with savages and barbarians, you are dealing with a horde that has been uprooted and thrown at the ukrainian people saying why go there and make money for yourself with this very crime by bullying ukrainians for a living rob because parallel to what i am saying there were constant conversations that you live too much in your place and eh and that is and this is what these conversations are all the time a and

comparison of the well-being of the regulatory conditions. i'm not talking about the opportunity to buy and so on. it also applies to bilateral relations. it also applies to the internal system. and from the stories. how do they live there? how is life organized inside and so on? you know. you are happy that we have left this prison of peoples on the one hand, on the other hand, you understand very well that this horde that does not identify itself with the people of zet and the nation, if it does not come to this, it is a constant source of danger and this constant source of danger is not only for ukraine it is a constant source of danger for all peoples because this uprooted root does not give an opportunity to stop oneself in the end

to acquire some kind of morality and live with god mind and in the heart and so on in fact ah we are dealing with very dangerous beings this much worse than a-a what a-a many people there are afraid of a-a robotic mind and so on. that is, it is actually a person to whom the concept of a person can only be conditionally applied. literally before the great invasion of the russian federation on the territory of the ukrainian state, he stated that we need, say, 3-4 days to take kyiv and, in general, the whole of ukraine, why do you think putin miscalculated, this is the analysis of the fsb, which did not correspond to reality, this is the assurance of the curators, yes

the so-called lpr and dpr, this is the assurance of russian emissaries who defended the russian peace, or is it still a people's war, which turned into a war for ukrainians with the russian federation, which was the reason for the failure of this blitzkrieg idea in ukraine has the first and the second and the third, and there is another thing, well , which i can’t help but say, we are completely different, and partially answering the first question, i already said that ukrainians are people with very deep roots, with morals, with an attempt to learn democracy and with constant training to observe of the law and this

fundamentally distinguishes us. it is as if we are saying similar words, but i have always thought that a ukrainian and a russian do not understand each other, and if it is not just a ukrainian as a ukrainian and a heavy tatar, a mordvin, a mari, then this there will be no understanding in principle, even in words, because it seems that the sounds are similar, but when you refer to the specifics there, which is related to the interpretation of this concept, the conditions of life, and certain relationships between people. well, i will give you such an example - they ask a question. and you can meet there

in drohobych, a flight attendant, and have a walk there. i say, well , first of all, in order to meet, you need some kind of reason , and not just to get drunk or full there, for nothing, for nothing, well, do you remember how? my parents taught me what you can do there, and if you meet, you should to meet for something and clearly know the answer to the question of what for and with whom you are meeting and why don't you touch it you understand that there is just a chasm between us and this is what separates us and it is already clear that this chasm is already insurmountable and until then there are people sitting in the kremlin who are parasites on this lack of the same identification and so on until that time and these people, if you can

call them that, will be thrown to the slaughterhouse and here it does not matter who is defined as the culprit or the enemy ukrainians lithuanians latvians poles americans this it doesn't matter at all, what matters is that this horde, this barbarian, always needs to be shown who is to blame for their poor life, and they will silently run and make fun because they were told that the ukrainians are to blame for the fact that you are so bad you live here, where this watershed passes, and from my point of view, in order for russia as a territory, as a state, to change its nature, the first thing that is necessary is actually the freedom of these peoples

until such time as they do not realize themselves as representatives of these ethnic groups of nations nationalities and do not receive freedom in order to become there tatars tatars mordvins mordvins maris maris there bashkirs bashkirs buryats buryats and so on until that time the kremlin will be a parasite on them because the fact that among those who came to the territory of ukraine among the russian military there are no representatives from moscow -petersburg but- novorossiysk is clear to me. because the reason here is actually this mechanism of testing and fear that the kremlin carries in itself, parasitizing these peoples. and because , in fact, this war and this aggression are also included.

the kremlin against ukraine is a mechanism for keeping these peoples in poverty and subjugation to the kremlin. roman petrovich, you said that until these peoples do not get freedom, and they generally dream of freedom , they want freedom. with the representatives of these peoples and ethnic groups, and now a long time has passed, 40 years have passed. i saw them for the second time in my life. it seems that the situation has become even worse than it was at that time, because at least then i heard at least some fragments of the native language of these peoples, now i can't even hear the words there anymore, and because i still remembered some expressions from that time the words

of the representatives of these ethnic groups but i can tell you that only those people who preserve their memory, preserve their history, preserve their language, they deserve our freedom, because what happened and is happening now, when the kremlin actually restrained these peoples, it is a violation of fundamental freedoms and human rights from my point of view. and if the civilized world understands that putin's clique commits evil not only against the ukrainian people, but abuses its own people, then internal crimes should also become the subject of consideration by the tribunal , because these are crimes against humanity - this crimes that do not have a statute of limitations are crimes that

fall under the so-called crimes against humanity, they must be considered because together with the abuse of ukrainians, the kremlin's abuse of all these peoples must be put because in memory of killing ethnic roots , morals are killed, and when you look for understanding with me , especially after this month, it becomes obvious and understandable. well, you can never agree on anything there, because you can agree with someone who has some kind of value scale and who has any morals here she doesn't here there are involved quotes memorized phrases well this is an action so when you communicate it gives the impression that you are dealing with a certain animal instinct and not

with a set of human values ​​i have peter why we we are talking about the rain of the last three months about a possible tribunal and the necessary international tribunal against putin and his henchmen, at the same time , representatives of part of the european continent and european states are talking about the fact that we need to give putin the opportunity to save face, we need to do something with putin so that he still gets some goodies in order to felt at least partially a winner. after what happened in ukraine, mass murders, rapes, looting, destruction of the entire infrastructure, can putin get a chance to hold a face in the world and to be a person with whom

representatives of western civilization can conduct some kind of dialogue, because now it is actually a war of civilization with the horde, and mr. sergey, if there is no surrender of the surrender of the kremlin clinic, where, on the one hand, this complete surrender will be signed by putin or a person on behalf of russia, and on the other hand, there will be a signature of the rammstein format, where there will be 40 signatures or 43 or 47 , depending on how many of these allies there will be in the anti- putin coalition, this evil simply gets a respite in the person of the kremlin and a short time will pass as this evil will make a mockery, i emphasize, the note does not matter because i completely share the position that was highlighted at one time by the president of the united states of america, joe biden, and

then repeated by the secretary of state linkend several times that putin's russia should be struck in such a way that in the coming decades of the 1st century, russians could not threaten not only their neighbors but other states if they set this as a goal and understand it as an extremely necessary realization, because under other conditions a threat to neighbors is a threat to other countries with on the part of the kremlin will constantly exist, then it is extremely necessary to achieve such a capitulation, to hold an international tribunal with the announcement of all these crimes and the prosecution and punishment of all those who made decisions and who provided the relevant commanders of the upper, middle and lower levels, and in no case from this

list persons cannot be excluded from the president or self-proclaimed president of belarus, lukashenka, and those from belarus who provided territory or did not protest against the fact that this territory was used for shelling of e-e ukraine in order to violate the state border with it and the territory of belarus on the territory of ukraine, and so on, because there is absolutely no difference in the legal assessment of the actions of putin and lukashenko, the putin government and the lukashenko government, no matter how lukashenko tried to escape from responsibility for lukashenko, we will talk a little later in the context of the meeting between putin and lukashenko. and i want to ask you about this. when we talk about the possible resignation of putin from the post

of president of russia, what should be the beginning the denazification of the russian federation, we receive different information, but what is happening in russia itself? well, for example, the head of the main directorate of intelligence of the ministry of defense of ukraine, kyrylo budanov, claims that there was an attempt on the president of russia after the start of the war against ukraine, according to budanov, an attempt on the line as they say representatives of the caucasus not so long ago, it was two months ago, and as budanov says, this attempt was unsuccessful, there is no publicity about this event, but there is little space today medusa writes about three months of russia's great war against ukraine, and this russian edition says that putin has set up a war party against himself and those who want peace in the kremlin, hoping that in the foreseeable future he will leave and

choose a successor. independently, either because of his health, or because of a mutiny, or because of an attempt to kill him, to what extent it can change the situation on the continent, on the european side, and in particular in the russian-ukrainian war, the first thing i perceive is reports that sound like this plan a-a and a-a reports that sometimes appear in the western press, and serious western press as certain a-a information operations, and i have been looking at information about putin's illness with great skepticism for a long time, with the same i look with skepticism at the fact that he

can leave, and a person who has achieved such omnipotence, such a tyrannical influence on the closest environment, and pay attention, this environment has not changed during the last more than 20 years, such a person can leave, i quote one of the classics the ukrainian politicians who told me so from this cabinet only move forward with their feet, that's why the topic of diseases for me she understood because it is also perceived because war is this nightmare that in itself gives rise to similar rumors and similar theses and and so on. and despite the fact that similar information comes out starting from the

yellow press and ending with representatives and heads of british intelligence, american intelligence, and so on, from my point of view, these are information leaks that are a component the information war waged by the russian federation against the civilized world, and from my point of view, this is done in order to relax the enemy, to give him some hope, and to relax him in the process of building up armaments, forming an anti-putin coalition, and let 's hope that putin will be replaced by patrushev and everything will change. no, it will not change, because at the root of everything is not only putin, but the foundation , the foundation of which is that the crushed

and crushed foundation is concrete and filled ethnic groups that do not self-identify themselves on this and on this platform, and the kremlin leader sits and glorifies himself, and believe me, it does not matter what the surname of this leader is, because as soon as he sits in this chair, he will sit there. so that paranoia and those values ​​that ukrainians understood very quickly and for many centuries, they overcame this and this and this attachment to warlordism and so on and thank god that this happened because and government is like a drug in this in the case of russian society. and i don’t know what to call it, it is unlikely that this society is simply

a set of certain individuals who do not identify themselves with a valuable choice and lead to the fact that it allows, if not stalin, then putin, well, in the last case, people like brezhnev to sit in the kremlin indefinitely and to trample on the soul on the mind on the morality of peoples and nations by the way, there was just a report that mykola patroshev gave an interview to russians, go to arguments and facts and interfax quotes this report, er, patroshev says that the task of a special military operation in ukraine will be fulfilled, all the goals set by the president of russia will be fulfilled, it cannot be otherwise, since the truth, in particular, is historical, is on our side, said patroshev, the fate of ukraine will be determined by the peoples

living on its territory. i would like to remind you that our country has never controlled the destinies of sovereign states. well such a cynical statement was made today by the secretary of the security council of the russian federation, referring to the people and referring to the will of the people. they started this so-called a special military operation, now they are referring to the will of the people and are saying that it is up to the ukrainians to decide, although it seems to me that the three months that have passed since the beginning of the great aggression have given a clear answer to what the ukrainian people want. romana, as a historian, you can say that this is the period and this is the end of this war, why do i say the end, because it is the end of several centuries of our struggle for our independence and our freedom from the russian federation