well, the marathon, what are we going to do next, the economy of martial law, let 's get in touch with yaroslav romanchuk, belarusian economist, scientific director of the ukrainian institute of economic leadership, yaroslavy, we welcome you, have a good day, glory to ukraine, belarus lives as a hero glory lives and smells like thyme yes, yes, well, we wanted to ask you about, so to speak, our losses and russian losses. yes, we understand that not only the competition on the battlefield is going on now, the economic competition is also going on. well, our main ally is the united states the european union is the so-called civilized world, but still, our gdp fell fantastically in a bad sense. what do you think will be the processes that will accompany this economic war with russia? well, the fall in gdp will definitely be how much it will be, 30 or 45%. no one. knows because

there has never been such a situation in the world, but it is necessary to prepare for the fact that today er eliminate the barriers that are inside in order to create conditions for ukrainian business for our partners as quickly as possible so that they where it is possible, they have already restored production and created a new enterprise, this is the piece of work that unfortunately, today, no one is doing what will be a battle, it will be 10% or 15%. there are putinoids, they don’t think about people, about social security. they think about the army, about some goals that are connected with the destruction. therefore, in order not to be with russia, we need to make such a tax regulatory system that would be the best in europe because after the war even if the gdp shrinks there by 40-50, that means it will be ukraine therefore, it will be an indicator of the poorest country in europe and we cannot copy the regulatory

legislation of the european union, well, we have the initiatives of hetmantsev, so the phrase about geese that need to be plucked so that they don't even feel anything about it has already spread all over the internet . well, i think that our citizens, so to speak , crossed themselves three times when they heard this phrase. well , yes. but maybe this initiative is right there and is based on something that is reasonable and economic or not. comrade hetman is at the same time he did two interviews, the first one was about geese. well, you know how lyrical romanticism, for god’s sake, can be interpreted in a different way. much more dangerous was the sentence that he did in the second interview, where he said, what is the difference between marxists and beberals, and that’s very important because his worldview, his worldview, his rough marxism, socialism, and authoritarianism of the hetmans do not believe in democracy

, the west, or european values, and he believes that with such an approach, it is possible to build the europe of the future. the government bloc is a problem, that's why i'm not talking about the appearance of a specific hetman's person . and about the hetman's office, that is, the person is all the people who are involved in economic policy. what i see today is a continuation of the marxist policy of ukraine, which brought ukraine to this poverty, so if hetmantsev will be accepted in the presidential administration and the verkhovna rada, the government, and all these people who must publicly answer to him, i will

also be silent, so they are the same marxists, so they are already publicly silent in ukraine, too. i don't know what ideological doctrine he belongs to, what tools will they use to stabilize the situation in our economy, but now the price of fuel has been released, the price of the dollar in ukraine has also been released, this is basically a testimony you know, this is a tough market approach. i don't know if it's good or bad, dear friends. but the thing is, we're not talking about hate from the business side, we're talking about the finance ministers of the prime minister, the national bank of people who are responsible for the development of economic policy, they are silent. and the freezing of prices in the conditions of ukraine led to the destruction of the ukrainian

economy by $800 million per month, this is the price of absolutely unprofessional behavior, so it was impossible to do, uh, another even more dangerous thing when we we are destroying macroeconomic stability by introducing a restriction on exchange rates of hryvnias, dollars , etc., etc. we see that the cases for example did not work out, they tried to keep you, they fixed the price, and in the end we see that somewhere under the carpets, uh, there was fuel, it was possible to buy, but much more expensive than the limit set by the government in particular, or something similar is happening now with the ukrainian national currency and

other currencies, which in fact, according to the exchange rate of the national bank, look one way . the third price is the laws of the market, what is the war, what is peacetime, what is for ukraine, what is unchanged for any other country. how only will you be in the hands of officials? the economy is the second in these conditions that turned out to be ukraine, we proposed an innovative solution to this problem, we would give the situation better would be to legalize five currencies in order to reduce the transition costs of currency regulation of the emanitarian policy and people themselves would adapt to the conditions without the risk of inflationary inflation - this is a more serious state a principled solution that goes in the direction of

adapting ukraine to european institutions , tell us a little more in detail, there are five currencies there and so on, we have not heard of such a thing, please elaborate voice, on february 24, i had to present the program ukraine, the new west, where the own part of the monitor policy was, roughly speaking, we look at what kind of trading partners we are dealing with. - and burden the internal balance of payments with the currency system eh monopoly and the hryvnia, which is not actually a stable currency for more than 18 years, ukraine ranks 13th in the world in terms of inflation , so it is necessary to give for ukrainians and ukrainian commercial organizations to use foreign currencies at the same time , that's it, well, that's fine, mr. yaroslav, i wanted to ask you about the prospects of our glorious, beautiful hryvnia

, so we understand the situation is critical, the hryvnia must be strengthened because those people who receive their salaries in it are suffering, and this is an obvious story from on the other hand, the same people who receive a salary in hryvnias regularly hear about certain tranches, yes, there are 5 billion, so people are already confused about how much help we received from the macro-financial side of a collective event, but all the same, the hryvnia falls and falls, so to speak. unfortunately, the declaration and the reality are completely different things here, we are there, and the weapons are heard that we should have everything and it is not there. what is necessary for the government to do what it depends on them is the wartime budget, which will clearly state how much money for social security, how much money for the war, how much for all other needs, that's what i calculated in order to pay 20 in the second year

to close all social pensions and education with firewood protection and payments to the poor, this is about 23 billion dollars, last year the budget was 87.5 billion dollars, that is, in order to ensure social payments, not so much money is needed. and if we take and ask our partners this is exactly the money. i think that they will give it to us. and if we do everything at the same time under the old management system, this is where the questions arise , so the hryvnia is unfortunately not for the currency that commands respect and the national currency. the currency of savings in ukraine is the dollar, and it is necessary to follow the path not of the syndicate of the national bank of the state banks, but of the choice of the commercial organizations of ukraine, as ukrainians themselves. during the war

, they are trying to strengthen the hryvnia artificially, this will simply aggravate the restrictions on the producer. well, i am very sorry, but i, so to speak, with such a minimal poper or soros, yes, but in any case, well, a similar initiative was in in slovenia, in the 90s, where they introduced the deuth or the mark, but on the other hand, the hryvnia, our hryvnia, we will not give it away and will strengthen it, the main problem is the currency, i’m sure, but the main problem is what will happen to the economy, so to speak, to the real sector , because the russians it was not for nothing that they purposefully destroyed objects of critical infrastructure, in particular, for our economy. what was the regular bombing of odesa near the port worth? khrystyna's deindustrialization with you is the fact that today we, the rashists, will win the war. the

only way to defeat them is simply to drive them to the battlefield and destroy them. work, so that we have a second tax system, so that we have a second property structure, this is the most important thing, if we now take foreign aid there, 100 billion dollars, 55 dollars, we will do the right decentralization for distribution, when there are 45 cities with there are 100,000 people in ukraine. they should be centers for the development of these resources, if each of the 45 cities sees the people of the west that honest people do not steal there, there is a condition for the development of the economy, then the next stage. here is 100 billion and five trillion dollars, and today there is a struggle for in order to create the conditions for the transformation of ukraine into an economy of 4-5 trillion dollars in the next 15-20 years, and for this, the proposals that we have

developed must be considered at the highest level. yaroslav, we could ask about the situation with the belarusian economy, i will remind you that belarus was also bombarded by sanctions as mercilessly as the russian federation, but less, however, this also happened. the capabilities of the belarusian economy are as strong as, for example, the russian one, so i would like you to give an assessment well, in the economic sense, what is happening in the republic of belarus is the belarusian economy and the military junta, military communism, in which there are no market mechanisms, in which there is one big thing, there is no such thing as a decision-making center there, just like in russia the market rate of the ruble and the belarusian russian ruble in 1-3 months, there is a decrease in wages by 150 dollars, and that is, the transition of the belarusian

economy to the regime of the rotting sovka , this is exactly what is happening, but there are many smuggling holes in russia and belarus there are many places through which both the belarusian regime and the russian regime can trade goods, and any sanctions are always a transfer of power under the control of special services, smugglers and the mafia, that's what's happening now, that's what's happening in russia belorussian international belarusian-russian clan groups concert control of the economy and for them they do not care about the people , do not care about the budget about inflation because these people are in a completely different regime, they mainly make money even at the cost of the bankruptcy of countries eh yaroslav i don't know how you you see the role of the belarusians, because what is happening in our country, in particular, in ukraine, but the fact that rockets flew from the territory of belarus that destroyed our cities and killed our people is

simply a fact that the address should bear responsibility under international law and also if we are talking about a specialty, we should take it from belarus, taking into account the economic state of its involvement and the people's involvement in this war, or rather non - involvement in fact. uh, the judge does, he kept his people in a concentration camp, that is, this is a gang that took over the country, and of course, the gang and the people, this dear, different things. i think when we will free uh, ukraine from racism, the next goal liberate belarus from otrashism and dictatorship, this is one and the same system, and when ukraine was responsible for the fact that rockets flew from its territory, and here i am, i think that there is an

opportunity to receive compensation for reparation , for example, it will be in the supply of viburnum fertilizer what ukrainian farmers need is what they need to be used, as well as oil refining products, ukraine has helped a lot in buying these goods, and it is simply necessary to determine the number of supplies that belarus will be obliged to supply after the war in ukraine. as part of the compensation for the fact that she was a strange co- progressor, yaroslavovych does not have the feeling that the horizon of sanctions for restraining russia and belarus has been exhausted, so to speak began to sell a little less, but much more expensive

. softpower, soft power in the european union, all european politics, german energy policy, this is putin's policy, it was carried out by merkel, and we will forget it, and in 3 months the war will destroy it . but again, we need to do everything in order to reach the european voter of the american voter because of society, because only public opinion is afraid of european politics, and it will be forgotten now , for example, what has gone on conversation from the side of the un, from the side of germany, and from the side of different people organizations, let's ensure the humanitarian transit of grain through the territory of belarus and thaw the knees of fertilizer. that's how you will protect the area in the black sea from rain. build warships for

nato or those countries that want to ensure food security for the world and the question will be solved. they follow the path that is profitable it is precisely these schemes that have led the european union itself to the state of such a very strong influence of russia for 20 years, i owe you a thank you , mr. yaroslav, for this there is an analysis on air of the informational marathon of the espresso tv channel yaroslav romanchuk, a belarusian economist, the scientific director of the ukrainian institute of economic leadership, worked on the live air of the espresso tv channel, it is time to come to a conversation with our next guest . 22:1 of the statute of the internal service of the armed forces of ukraine on ensuring the possibility of termination of criminal offenses in the conditions of a special period to the people, these changes have already been called, in fact, permission

to shoot and kill potential deserters in the ranks of the ukrainian armed forces. although i would not say so loudly, in the end, the draft law was withdrawn, so this topic is no longer relevant to me. it can happen not only in the army very often such unregulated situations. well, there are critical situations, and the commander who is responsible both for the state of combat readiness and for internal discipline is sometimes forced to take, so to speak, difficult measures in order to calm down, for example, a few not very sober or is there any other situation, the verkhovna rada is no longer planning yes yes volodymyr omelyana we are joining yes volodymyr former minister of infrastructure of ukraine from the 16th to the 19th year a fighter of the 206th anti-terrorist battalion of the city of kyiv, a person who could also

launch pryluk in our country but kills and we are burying muscovites probably yes, sorry, yes well, as they say, jokes are jokes, volodymyr, we congratulate you, glory to ukraine, the relevant services, okay, let's talk about something serious, we understand what happened in davos, so we are promised money from the other side, we see that it is done with gasoline with mushroom. that is, of course, we understand the reasons - it is a very simple story, yes, the war in russia is destroying our economy, but we understand on the other hand that our people should feel more economically secure, so what about those huge macroeconomic tranches when we feel at least a minimal i will make it easier in this regard, we see such cautious statements of official factors in kyiv that, er, in june they expect receipts that will significantly er, ease the situation in the country

, god forbid that this really happens, let's say there i am skeptical about the current situation. we are definitely in a state of war and we cannot talk about any development or growth of any macroeconomic or any other indicators in ukraine, nevertheless, it is clear that after victory in our country, traditional problems will also be overcome, we will have to open financing from the west, we will have support, and here it is very important that not only the ukrainian nation but the ukrainian elite change qualitatively, that corruption is taboo and that the government surprises the world not only with military successes, but also surprises the world economic gains are economic reforms, because just as the ukrainian army has become the number one army in the world, in fact, now the ukrainian government should become the number one in the world in terms of the quality

of the implemented reforms, and here the question is only for them, i would really like to have a mark of quality on everything, so to speak in particular, it was made there in ukraine well, but you just lived quite unpleasant words, in particular, about our homeland corruption. maybe without surnames, but i don’t know in which areas unscrupulous representatives make the most money flow controllers because this is not about one or another, i don’t know, small cases of looting , it is about people trying to systematically profit from our murky, murky economic water, of course these unpleasant facts and shameful facts are taking place and now we see that there were enough complaints and for humanitarian cargoes , there are facts when individual humanitarian cargoes entered ukraine with the assistance of certain large and well-known funds, and it turned out that these were actually

commercial supplies to large trade networks. i hope that appropriate conclusions have been drawn from this situation and that it will not happen again, but the issue of corruption is not only a challenge within our ukraine, it causes great concern on the part of our external partners who are ready to support ukraine, but are definitely not ready to throw money at a homeless person barrel, and here are the measures that will be implemented. i hope , in particular, within the framework of this national commission for the reconstruction of ukraine, which acts by the decree of the president and already has more than 1.5 thousand people of various levels experts, both international and ukrainian, will give answers to all questions, in particular, about the new ukraine that we are building in principle in its construction and also the mechanisms of its functioning. they must be transparent, simple and unconditional. we must first of all after the rule of law. by the way, nothing it doesn't hurt to appoint the head

of the sap pram tomorrow, in fact, whether to allow the corruption prosecutor's office, yes, whether to start a competition for the head, i will buy it in the near future, i understand the time of war, but the issue of corruption is also very relevant, and definitely only if the supreme leader exercises appropriate anti-corruption measures, we will have a situation where for every dollar of russian reparations, 5 to 10 dollars of foreign investment will come, which is very important to us. despite the war , eh, and i would like you to say that our constitutional court today we got a new head to replace mr. tupytskyi . when no one wanted to give in and there were questions about the work of the constitutional court, but the

procedures and the replacement of judges there are also important, and such a scythe on the stone went and all this looked like a real dead end, mr. volodymyr, how do you see this story now? well, the new head is supposedly yes, but have the powers of the old chairman formally ended, as i wo n’t remember her anymore, to be honest. well, you know, i wouldn’t want to go into the realm of criticism now, because this situation is also a huge question for me, how transparent the legal mechanism was applied for solving the problems of the constitutional court. it seems to me that there is really a lot to work on. and it is actually very important that the state itself shows an example of how it observes all the laws that it actually develops, implements and calls on all citizens to strictly follow them. because if there is no example from the state, if we will show that here we found some kind of back door through them we found and did something and you all have to go through the turnstile, well, this is a road

to nowhere, mr. volodymyr. well, you are right noted, i don't want to criticize anyone in such a difficult situation well, but we understand that medvedchuk's case is starting to give its own rather hysterical about the tubers, in particular, it is about medvedchuk's latest statements in which he interweaves and incorporates petro poroshenko into his whole story . what do you think, why now which consequences and in general why so to speak specifically at this political moment and when everyone was talking about some integration a month's stay in germany and decided to show their effectiveness. maybe someone wanted to surprise one single viewer with his dedication . there may be a lot of answers here, in fact, but i talked about it and i say publicly that it was a very

unwise decision. as of today, the only shows that worry me about this time i am convinced that the absolute majority of ukrainian society is the testimony of mr. medvechuk about putin. yesterday, i did not hear any of them. of russian propaganda and financing and strengthening of the russian factor in ukraine could give such evidence and i am convinced that he will give these evidences of the nyudov trial against putin, everything else. of the domestic political agenda, it will only lead to a single disaster for us as a country, and we need to win this war, then we will figure out whether i am medvedchuk poroshenko’s trumpet or perhaps kolomoisky, well, accordingly. i would like you

voiced their intuitive guesses. what do you think about medvedchuk? will they urgently exchange him to russia or not? it seems to me that medvedchuk is most afraid of returning to russia and it seems to me that he will bargain for his own life and maybe that is why this interview appeared yesterday because we didn't hear anything in it about mr. medvedchuk's business partners, mr. surkis, or people like them kolomoisky, or other gentlemen, maybe kolomoisky, i would like to give some testimony to the fbi, there will also be something interesting, an unclear situation, but through i emphasize that, in my deep conviction , medvedchuk can and should become one of the important witnesses at the trial against putin. thank you , well, the question is infrastructure. well, i can't help myself. forgive the christian and the political question

. and here in the verkhovna rada , a group of deputies has been created for the restoration of ukraine, and it is mainly representatives of the ukrainian armed forces, which was allegedly banned . and i would like to ask a question. some effectiveness of certain prohibitions of decisions adopted in the verkhovna rada, well, in other words, in fact, nothing changes, the same people only in profile . it is worth changing the approach in your opinion. well, change the approach. a democratic state. we have to do it through democratic elections, and this is possible only after the war. i don’t see any other mechanism now to convince the authorities to act in the interests of the states for me.

the existence of this group in the parliament is also very strange, as well as the existence of mr. filtesh and his assets in ukraine, uh, and many other people, let’s say the presence of assets that are in ukraine, which, no less, such a babakov raises very big questions in society, or mr. novinsky, an example of that, i i would really like to receive a clear vision of them from the authorities, and then we will act accordingly in our own way, that is, the best barometer and the best indicator are elections, and i think that by now 90% of ukrainian society does not arise discussions about the direction of ukraine's movement what kind of government should there be in ukraine and what will it do? returning to the old will not exactly be an infrastructure issue. that it has returned to

the public plane, it has been raised several times since the 15th year, now it is relevant again. i do not think that it is advisable to re-settle the entire railway infrastructure of ukraine on the eurotrack, it is more than 20,000 km of tracks, but definitely, all main directions of the west to kyiv and from kyiv to key regional centers or to all regional centers should be built with high-speed electrified eurorail, and it is possible and should be done, approximately how long and how much money, it can be from 10 years to infinity depending on how to build and what you want to have as a result, in terms of money, it is definitely tens of billions of dollars, but russia must pay for it all by destroying 5,000 km of our railway and we have a lot of stations thank you glory to ukraine, sir volodymyr volodymyremelyan, former minister of infrastructure of ukraine in the years 16-19, a fighter of the 206th battalion