and kostetskyi was in touch, it is really necessary to invest, invest housing, invest your future, invest necessarily victory, let me remind you that sales of military bonds are also ongoing, and anyone who wants to can invest money in the armed forces of ukraine. keep an eye on our programs, we often talk about them and oleksandr movchanka on i say goodbye to you vasyl, i pass on my word to you, thank you very much oleksandr about money, about the economy during the war , oleksandr marchenko said, but we saw how housing will be restored, what the prices will be and already in some places, the cities are being restored. i am not saying that large-scale reconstruction is going on there now, but the cities are being restored, they are cleaning up somehow, and today, at 8:30 p.m., my colleague lina chichynina will not talk about culture, but about the consequences of the lack of culture that the russians pushed into the suburbs of the capital . tomorrow, she will turn on from there and tell how bucha lives now, how the city is trying to put things in order and, er, create

at least some conditions for the lives of people who return to this wonderful, cozy city in the suburbs of kyiv and, in fact, that people and their own forces are also trying to do everything for the city to live after such a terrible blow inflicted by the russian federation evgeny magda, director of the institute of world politics mr. yevgeny, i congratulate you as a hero. glory, you know today, as they say . there are a lot of topics that are worth discussing, which are really important for ukraine. i will start with the one that just appeared and ask you to comment on it. maybe we won't even do a deep discussion there. well, but viktor orban announced about ukraine in hungary, a state of emergency has been in place since may 25, i.e., overnight, but on wednesday, it will start working. well, because of the situation in ukraine, they decided to declare a state of emergency so that there, somehow, it will continue

to work. do you understand how the country should act in this situation, in your opinion, what does this mean that this state of emergency will affect the fact that hungary can make certain decisions about the embargo on russian energy? well, i will think about how to live in this situation, please. i rather assume that this element of the political game of mr. orban because it is a state of emergency, as i remember. they were not implemented even when thousands of ukrainian refugees were arriving in hungary at the end of february and march, and some of them are enough . this game of a separate position within the european union in relation to oil is long enough, it is a game that for him is

an element of his political independence, let me remind you that on april 3 he won the elections with the party fidesz was re-elected for the fifth time a week ago and re- approved for the post of prime minister, and accordingly, orban has a mandate of trust on the one hand, on the other hand, i think he will use various elements to emphasize that hungary needs, well, you know, such asymmetric management solutions and it is definitely interesting because for hungary hungary i think is looking for opportunities to save its own face because orbán refused to discuss at the next meeting of the european council the issue of introducing an oil barg and we understand that

now for russia, the income from oil is somewhere. if this amount is around 800 million euros per day, then somewhere over 600 million are received directly from oil and only later, and the rest are received from exports. it is very similar to sitting on two chairs, despite the fact that each of them has its own trajectory of movement, and this, in my opinion, is not enough, you know how here the further you go, the less space there is for two sagittarius. i think that mr. orden will still have to be alone choose a chair to get into to that future reality to which we are all going well, but now about our neighbor eh our neighbor

as from whom well, in many ways now it is possible to the greatest extent depends eh at least the security situation in ukraine - we are talking about belarus of course russian troops, belarusian troops close to the border, the threat of an attack has not disappeared. well, they say that lukashenko continues to negotiate and negotiate, allegedly in the west, he is offered to ease sanctions and give the opportunity to sell potash fertilizers. well, he has little to do profit so that he did not make concessions to putin and nevertheless did not involve his army in direct aggression against ukraine. well, there was also a meeting between putin and lukashenko, where they tried to convince him once again. perspective in my opinion, lukashenko is carrying the horrors that were in buch and irpen that were in the suburbs of kyiv, and we should not forget about it, the

desire to offer him some elements well, i do not know the search for saving face and the search preservation of economic opportunities due to the preservation of potash fertilizer exports. this is a bit of such an interesting process, you know, you immediately wonder what russia can be interested in, but the logic is very simple, the more lukashenko earns from exports, the less he will ask from russia , so russia to a certain extent in these things, of course i'm interested, so i don't see anything strange here, but how far can we go on this, as they say, here the question is not aggression, but the question is that belarus apparently has to agree to the export of ukrainian grain to the port in klaipeda, we have the same width of the railway track and

the belarusian railway today looks, well, let's say the most acceptable in some people's opinion, but who will give a guarantee that there, you know, the belarusians talk not without reason about the rails in the war against the russian troops, there were certain manifestations there and belarusians were even detained harshly detained with shot knees, but who will give a guarantee to lukashenka's belarus that echelons with ukrainian grain will not be blown up and put under fire? can someone give a guarantee, including lukashenko a can someone provide a guarantee that putin will not destabilize, including belarus , where his troops are located, where russian propagandists have been refueling on local television since september 20, and where, in general, everything is very close to putin at the moment, then he will give such a guarantee to sit down for table with shulers this, in my

opinion, is a very dangerous initiative and it must be taken into account, so now let's turn to the british intelligence, so to speak, the ex-head of mi-6 said this sir richard girla he was the head of mi-6 back there, in the late 90s and early 2000s, he said that putin would not be president next year, he would obviously be sent to some sanatorium, from which he would definitely not become the leader of the state. candidates for putin's possible successors . and putin says that the war will continue . everything will be fine if you just calm down, but in principle those who are for the war in the kremlin, because they have money on it, may be certain, and those who are against the war are dissatisfied with putin. in your opinion, this is well me i trust such people as former heads and six. especially sir richard, well, obviously, he didn’t

just say something to say, but to what extent it can be implemented and whether putin’s next, many people see that it could be patrushev who will really radically change the security situation for ukraine since i had the opportunity to read a number of interviews of batrushev, including fresh arguments and facts, i do not share the general optimism about this matter, they say that patrubsha will come, you will be all right , vatrushok generally shares he represents the group hawks inside the actual russian establishment and to think that he will become some kind of democrat . well, to me, this is naively naive and baseless. let's not count on patrushev or anyone else. well, you know, it reminds me of faith of the good tsar, who was shot at one time. on january 9, 1905, on palace square in

st. petersburg during the first russian revolution . the degree of reflection in the ukrainian issue, if for russian liberals the ukrainian issue always appears as a marker where their imperial ideological underpinning is manifested, then for those who are near stern today, it will manifest itself even more strongly, it will be this patrus, it will be naryshkin, it will be ivanov he was even brought back for some kind of prank by sorokov or shoigu, who is the minister of defense and who never served in the army. but there is an army general, so to speak, in the western maneuver is such a military minister, all this is of no fundamental importance,

they all want to destroy us, they are simply hindered by ukraine in different ways, they see ukraine exclusively as a piece of meat, and not as a country with which it is necessary to negotiate. does anyone still not understand after buchi, after mariupol, after everything that in russia the dehumanization of ukrainians was sanctioned at the highest state level and could. are there any opinions that only putin invented all this? this reminds me of the situation when after 1945 thousands of nazis said no, we didn't know anything, that's all adolfa luizych no, it's not adolf delaizich and it's not vladimir vladimirovich - it's the mood inside at least the russian establishment seven moods at the moment 75% of russians who are polled by various russian sociologists support they support putin's actions in the war in ukraine naba by

the way, he's wearing this cap diesel show ot the video was going down the stairs from the plane, it reminds me of a certain andropov, well, the former head of the kgb of the ussr, who headed the politburo there for a short time, then died of an illness. he is more intelligent and ruthless than putin, because putin, well , it seems that he is not a very good chekist, one more topic, but we will discuss it very briefly, you know, davos is where rich people are going to talk about various topics, investments, what to where, but there they will discuss political issues, as they say on the sidelines. there are rumors that they discussed the moment of a truce with russia that would be acceptable to everyone so that all this would simply end. and the president's office said that no, ukraine will not trade sovereignty , that is, after all, there were some conversations. if so, then between whom and with whom they were supposed to conduct themselves and how they were sanctioned, please well, i think that everyone heard today the former secretary of state

henry kissinger, who in his 98 says that ukraine should yield to russia, make concessions, and in general, it echoes some kind of herocratic sanatorium, first in berlos, kony talks about ukraine's concessions, then kissinger well, let's wait for someone else from such aksekals of world politics who will tell us that we have to give in to russia, no one will give in to russia and our western partners should be aware of this, and this is the position of not only the president's office. i think that this is the position of our defenders, because again, after those war crimes, after those losses that have been inflicted here on ukraine, talk about some concessions to save putin's face. i think that everyone wants, and ukraine will take on the

obligation to finance their production. i think we have enough money for this. in extreme cases, we will announce some collection of donations and close this issue in a short time. thank you very much. thank you very much. for always accurate and professional comments, evgeny mak and the director of the institute of world politics, he was with us in the theater and spoke with us very briefly, in almost a minute we will be back, we will talk with serhiy kvitami, he was the minister of education and science of ukraine, about the state of ukrainian education, because this is also actually very important about its prospects, on april 4, the rrt concert illegally turned off the digital air ukrainian independent tv channels espresso the fifth and direct, a petition was registered on the website of the cabinet of ministers of ukraine, which demands the return to digital ether ukrainian tv channels to sign the petition first you need to register, it's very simple

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ukrainian patriotic channels to the digital air together, we will not allow freedom of speech to be destroyed in ukraine and next, we will talk about the preservation and transformation of higher education in ukraine during the war and in the post-war period, with the president of the kyiv-mohyla academy, the minister of education and science in 14-16, serhiy kvit, we will show you one of the dozen stories of the relocation of universities . were practiced at kropivnytsia enterprises, so the relocation to kirovohrad oblast became a logical continuation of cooperation. let's look at the material of ilya, one of the more than two hundred employees of the team of the kherson state agrarian and economic university, his colleagues are scattered all over ukraine and abroad, some have remained in

kherson and are on duty in the premises of the institution, some are trying to break out of the territory occupied by the russians , sometimes 5% are already leaving. you psychological state of all scientists is very difficult. that's how it is there, uh, that's all because there are constant explosions every day, every night , you walk around the city somewhere, something banged, that's how it is, that's how it is, and you bend over, what do you think where is it bahnulo is the oldest university in the kherson region, it has five faculties, agronomic, economic , biological, technological, fisheries and architecture. about three thousand students study at the institution. this is the most powerful and oldest institution in the south of ukraine. its strength is the wide range of educational programs and levels. the highlight is our staff, our scientific and pedagogical personnel are known all over the world, because we currently

have all the academicians working in the kherson region they are included in the educational process , we have a large number of budget places, the renovated kherson university has sheltered the kropyvnytskyi agrarian college in its premises, in cooperation with the kherson state agrarian and economic university, we see the prospect of cooperation in graduate training . that is, our graduates will be able to continue their studies at this university. 5 institutions of vocational pre-university and higher education temporarily moved to kropyvnytskyi , we currently have no problems with the location because our demography is probably not the same as in other territories and there is a technical possibility to accommodate and provide premises for all these

institutions, the administration of the agrarian and economic university and the operators of the state electronic database on education issues will temporarily move to kropyvnytskyi. the educational process will take place remotely. well and now we will add to the conversation serhii kvitka, the minister of education and science of ukraine in 14-16 years, the president of the kyiv-mohyla academy p serhii, i congratulate you good day good evening i'm glad to see and hear. well, you know, it's important to understand what will happen to education. the enemy destroys not only infrastructure objects, not only there, he hits our army, civilians and below, higher education, colleges, destroys the future of people, forces them to - and to evacuate from ukraine, well , in fact, i want to deprive us of a future without education, there is no future today. please tell me the current situation, how is ukrainian education surviving? well, we are now talking more about higher education, what are the prospects for the fall

in principle, summer is fast for me well, these are all politics, the politics of the russians. she understood, they still smoke textbooks. yes, and what concerns the history of ukraine, various humanitarian books. by the way, i want to ask that in 1632, in my opinion, the first such case was recorded. and when the russians smoked ukrainian books were books of church content and they were burned allegedly because they were wrong, because there were many ukrainianisms in that language, yes, it was not such a church in slavonic, it was old ukrainian. tradition and it's a useless thing. that's because the main thing is how we treat it, that is, our society is mobilized. that's why educators, those who haven't had it in themselves, have already found the answers to all these questions, that is, the main thing is that we can't be changed, that's why it's a useless

thing and walls can be restored. unfortunately, people cannot be brought back. this is a great tragedy, and this is russia. no one will ever give this to the russians in their history. well, but regarding higher education institutions, this is a great tragedy . this is a temporary matter, these projects are important, but they must be designed for a very short time in order to preserve the teams, for the sake of continuing the education of these students, for the sake of the survival of the team, and so on, that is, these are temporary, temporary projects, we already passed them in the 14th 15th then 17 institutions of higher education were moved to other regions, so now everyone is preparing for the admissions campaign, and the admissions campaign is largely unpredictable for universities for various reasons, i.e. demographic reasons, i.e.

there are different circumstances, universities are all very worried about this, but everyone is preparing and i think that in the end we will see that the admissions campaign was as successful as possible in the conditions of the war . history, they no longer have the concept of kyivan rus, you don’t have kyivan rus as such. i already invented my own. but i mean, this is an effort - already an effort, we see that this is a war against education or even we always think to think so why and culture, why and education, but the enemy is so vile, cynical and insidious and has been conquering other peoples for so long that he is hitting us for this very reason and please tell me, if we are talking about the kyiv-mohyla academy, one of the most influential and knows the most sought-after and top-

ranked universities in ukraine, how he sees his future, how they will work, where they will study, father, you understand that there are many students now, too, for sure went abroad, please, a lot of people also went abroad, but any war throws a certain part of the population abroad, so to speak, and this also applies to the economic communities of all universities, they are scattered to a greater extent throughout the territory of ukraine, that is, also abroad partly because what we are doing now. that is, we believe that the best way for us now is to deepen - this deepening of internationalization is what strengthens our quality, and we are now opening our campuses abroad, now we are talking about four campuses the first of them is the university of toronto in canada, it is also the university of glasgow in britain - it is the university of gisema in germany and the university of willowska in

lithuania. that is, we need campuses for which this is partly our response on behalf of our state to such a potential brain drain that i think has begun now it will not be dramatic, because we see according to polls that more than 80% of ukrainians are ready to return immediately as soon as the war ends and there will be such an opportunity for them, but they ended up abroad and we want our the programs that we jointly open with these partner universities were attractive to ukrainians who have now left so that they remain in the field in the field of gravity of ukraine, and in particular the kyiv-mohyla academy, the second goal. we want to be attractive to our students-partner universities, germans, canadians, lithuanians, and so on so that ukraine has the opportunity to convey the truth about itself more, and so it can be said that our

students from ukraine from the bottom will have from kyiv will have the opportunity during their studies to have the possibility of such foreign, that is, a-a mobility, eh, within the framework of staying within the framework of the university itself, that is, internationalization. i think this is a serious challenge. this and this is an important path, along with that it is necessary that all our efforts are the greatest of our efforts, it goes of course help the front and help to our state in various fields , in addition to the fact that the people of mogilan are fighting, they are the authors and founders of a lot of different projects in ukraine abroad to collect funds for the front and for victory, various types of help and you psychologically and e various various help all that the academic environment can do here is the story that has become scandalous, you know, we now have many topics that hold the attention of people that are vitally important, but

this topic is also important to president zelensky, eh, a student asked by the way, the kyiv-mohyla academy about scarlet who is suspected of plagiarism, corruption, and many other things. president zelenskyi said that everyone made mistakes before, every person made mistakes, hmm, but already everything has passed somehow, but we have outgrown these problems with scarlet fever and then he said well, he gave an example of children whose legs were stolen, although again i consider this to be an emotional manipulation, because mr. zelenskyi is a national relation and it is not his grief, it is the grief of these people well, he says that do not be an example of the past well, for this student, be an example of the future, which can be in the future, when education is headed by people who, uh, tried to disrupt, well , there is such a suspect who tried to disrupt the elections , let's say, in the kyiv-mohyla academy, uh, well, and many other things were done by such a president mohyla academy please tell me if we have outgrown the scarlet or the other way around we will not grow up to the future as long as there are people in our places who

have made mistakes and may make mistakes in the future, mistakes are tragic for the state for education, at least you pay attention to the fact that our students ask those questions that they consider important and i think that this question is very important. of course people can make mistakes, but these mistakes can be different. so even today. well, if they were asked, they asked a question. yes, i think that it this issue is very important and it cannot be simply ignored, and i think that to such issues of course we will return after the war and after the victory, first of all, he a and we also correctly mentioned that the investigation is ongoing, we constantly have some documents from the general prosecutor's office regarding the attempt to disrupt what kind of elections did the mohyla academy

have? well, regarding the answer of president zelenskyi, do you know what this answer is, that is, he was looking for words while answering, yes, he was looking for an answer, i think the very question jumped out at him, and in general the meeting itself. i think it could be better prepared by the ministry itself, as well as by those people who are supposed to be experts for any president, that's why this issue is serious and it can't be canceled so easily, that is, because of a person who heads a-a education, and all the more so i want to draw attention to the fact that the question was asked in the context of considerations about the future of ukraine, that is, what kind of country do we want to see after the war, it is obvious that in education we want to see those people who would be leaders of reforms, that is, before this question

of course, we will return immediately after the victory . if we talk about the future, you know, well, we have 2 minutes of time, but i want to say that and i also want to see at the head of educational processes, let's say the professor of uzhgorod university, if i'm not mistaken, who gave online lectures to students sitting cops in the war zone today he is at the front fighting for the future of these children and tomorrow he will teach these children, let's say i want such people you see near about uh at the head at the head of the processes and the students who are also fighting now please that's it a wonderful person and i. well, unfortunately, i don’t know the internet. it’s obvious that it was you who set it. you set a good example, absolutely so that the future is there . just the time when everyone has to prove his need for the state and his love for it, well, it doesn't matter

, maybe not even at the front in his place or his dislike for this state that's all and this war everything will show and for sure nothing sleeps thank you very much i wish you success in your work you in preparation for of the new academic season, this is important. serhiy kvit, the minister of education and science of ukraine in the 14th and 16th years, and now he is the president of the kyiv-mohyla academy, by the way, having obtained this position due to the fierce resistance from the ministry of the bewitched mr. scarlet about which we were just talking, and now we are coming to another topic. well, we will also talk about the future, in fact, the future that is being created today will have to wait for a long time, so we are taking matters into our own hands and this conclusion is increasingly being reached by residents of housing that was damaged as a result of hostilities there are many actions of such housing throughout the territory of ukraine, due to a lack of communication with the local authorities, people can not organize many processes from demining