region, i.e. kherson oblast, they see it and even the intercepted conversations of the sbu indicate that they want to flee to crimea already. how many months and a half have passed, they can't stand it there, they say they want to flee, what are they doing there? well, let's add volodymyr molchanov to our conversation in kherson he is a political scientist. well, he is well aware of the events currently taking place in the kherson region, and we will try to understand it in more detail together with him . volodymyr good evening. were so brave, they declared themselves the leaders of kherson oblast, and now i want to flee to crimea. this is evidenced by the interception of sbu conversations, well, first of all, they gave it to bezfish, so to speak, and became

heads of administration in certain territorial communities, as well as employees, well, in this case, yes the conversation is already known to everyone, it was between such a collaborator and a police employee who, strictly speaking, had nothing to do with the police. that is, these are absolutely random people who, due to the lack of personnel, the occupiers had absolute enlisted in this service, most likely they will really be gradually replaced by more such at least solid businessmen with some experience of traitors who will gradually switch if there is no release to the occupying run you need to save your business, unfortunately, this is very important now, this is a factor that will contribute to treason, who is now forming

around this balance, and his team is so pro-russian, pro-russian authorities in the region, here i am i heard the name vitaliy bulyuka. i know that he is such a powerful local, well, it is difficult to call him a businessman. he has worked at the customs office all his life and is actually one of the owners of the region in terms of economy and corruption. this man is really close to the balance now and helps to manage so physically he is near the balance, but if you look at the only video that was posted, they promptly posted the russian resources, uh, in their telegram channels, uh, the situation there is quite funny, the bullock hid behind other collaborators by the last name klochko, he was declared the head of the genetic administration, and saldo even had to introduce him. although everyone knows who he is, what does this mean, she

simply highlighted the situation that there is a long-standing conflict between saldom and bulyuk, and the conflict was connected with the local elections of 2020, when the balance block to the regional council passed literally on several hundreds of fictitious fake votes cast in two communities and one of these communities was in the electorate in the eyes of no beet and he considered it first of all, with a personal personal insult, this is such selfishness, the balance in his territory, and secondly, he lost his bloc, as a result, he lost one deputy seat, because if there were not a balance of five deputies, there would have been eight. well, it is not a problem for the party itself our region, although he inherited this party or did not inherit it, but gradually squeezed the balance out of it, that is, their conflict intensified in the 20th year, but it began a little

earlier, these people joined both in 2015. here is this newly created party of former regionalists, which it is called the party of mayors of our region, they could n’t get along like spiders and banks. these two, let ’s say, candidates for m.m. have a certain influence on the territory of not only the city of kherson, the entire region, although everything is clearly expressed, they still had an influence on the balance, first of all in the city of khmer, in kherson , the influence of bulyuk is the south-western regions, the left- bank regions of the kherson region, the richest . strictly speaking, the regions that provided most of ukraine with vegetable gardens, eh, this is holopristan, the former skadovsky and oleshkivskyi district, he was there, he started his work with the permission to say the activity of boluk as the head of the skadov customs office, then he managed the kherson

khmelnytskyi customs office, and then he already followed the political line. well, and about them. and at the same time, we see that most likely the balance was imposed on him. i am not sure, by the way, that the balance did not try to escape, because between his kamyangout somewhere on march 10-13 and his appearance already in the role of the head about a month passed by the administration, and the rest of this month was probably in the crimea, as there were rumors in kherson. maybe he also tried to escape because he was afraid, maybe not here, we can’t say now for sure, but hmm, yes, in the selection of personnel, she is zero . so, with more or less common sense, a person

would not take usov instead of three, which is not that it is zero, it is a minus that will ruin any business, turn it into a gossip, and also say something that would rather not say the same kobets, the very announcement. the mayor of kherson is a person from russia whom no one knows in kherson. he just sits and is not in the same meeting that they had. perceives even from these potential collaborators who can basically leave, could leave, by the way, himself from attraction yes, now we have mentioned a person from russia, just me, the question is whether many collaborators are located in the kherson region, or after all, there will be such vacant positions that can be said to be prestigious in the region occupy people from russia will take them there, but it is interesting to hear that only in kherson there is such a person from russia, although

here i am. we have a lot of refugees in political settlements since 2014, such as seydomerny mykolaiv, for example, who returned to the henichesky district in the henichesk community already e- in addition, this is oleksiy, a former deputy of the verkhovna rada, known for rumors about his sexual crimes with murder . there are many even lower-caliber traitors who have returned now and are applying for some positions. they are often dense and absolutely useless from the point of view of their abilities. well, regarding

how and where did the somersault come from why did he pass why did he make a career here there are, uh, such suspicions are more or less justified that since his youth, that is, since soviet times, since his work in mongolia, the mongolian people's republic, he was recruited by the kgb, and then as a simple foreman in 2002, he performed, that is, with a minority stake in the khersonbud enterprise, why was he nominated as a candidate for mayor, why was he publicized, where did he take funds for an advertising campaign, why was he supported by so many influential figures there is absolutely no known person in kherson who does not have any specific ideas regarding the revival of kherson. that is, this is such an ordinary standard path that the agent and the kgb decided to dismantle, then he most likely

did not have any tasks, he was just waiting for his time until recently, he tried to be in the parties, first in his homeland, then in the party of regions, in the end, he was expelled from the party of regions for his not so active support of yanukovych. in 2004, especially in the third round, then he got in there again, but he always lost . internal party competition because the yanukovych and donetsk did not like him er and so let's say the last years in the last let's say this year the owner of the party is other persons, and by the way, they adhere to more or less nationalist views, they are from the party of arsen and arseniy yatsenyuk, the people and these people who actually controlled the party, they agreed with the

balance on the distribution of m-m seats on the party lists, about a third of the rest was selected by the balance itself e- eh, but in fact they can still control the disks now, well, if it weren’t for martial law, they could, for example, exclude deputies from there now, because a year has already passed, i mentioned this only there in detective books and in books, well, about spies, yes. and there are some agents preserved that they have been waiting for something there for years, then they start to act, but today today we see what is happening, you know a lot and unfortunately for those who may be expressing patriotic positions now, maybe he is even actively working for the victory of ukraine, clear it up they can often afford such skirmishers who will then explode at the most unfavorable moments for us. i think that there

are still many such people left, and not only recruited from soviet times, but also recruited later, both the fsb and those old agents who recruited new agents who couldn’t be had enough of us. we are a country that survived in the 14th year the formation of the so-called local administrations of local people's mayors and we all saw if in 8 years what they have completed, because this is not hidden information, open cases, some even in sittings some people went to court, which ended, you know, in even greater shame, and now we are growing new so-called people's mayors, and here you know, it's a purely human question, and what, well, we don't learn from mistakes,

or what do we hope for, or should this time pass well, as an example, not lastepa, well, how did the story end, because nothing was punished, he opens the map-planchette and gives it so that it will be repeated, well, that is, impunity, with their participation, generates the following crimes, this is one moment, and the second moment, i just said above that these are frontmen are expendable material. these are the ones who don't feel sorry for them. and behind them there are often much more serious people, which, by the way, was mentioned by my colleague analyzing the situation in the south of ukraine. well, i can say the same thing about the so -called ldns of my hometown. stakhanov is there, there is a beautiful mayor zhevlakov, who sat there when i was there. well, before all these events, his children live

in the united states. double bass, he did it on something else, and the cover. here , but behind him, and in front of that, there was pasha in front of him, at first, this is pasha with a trio in the bank for, well, now there are a bunch of people standing there, who are there, plus there, borshchivskyi , for example, premyevych, who are also generals in, well , just like and we have already passed a bunch of people, it is still late , just the ksb curators from other law enforcement agencies appear, and they compete with each other in the same way, they start and that is where the brawl begins, it will inevitably begin, but there is a fundamental and fundamental difference as to this matter the president of ukraine zelensky noted that when he reacted to the attempts to hold such a referendum there, remember he said that the only legal consequences of holding this referendum will be for its

organizer, you are the participants, it would not be about any kind of freezing of this conflict and the formation of some quasi-state structures there at the moment therefore, all these people are really doomed, they have no chance to survive or get caught, or they will be eliminated, well, with this resistance movement, they will be eliminated as a result of the internal ones one three clan feuds, which i also already talked about, or will be liquidated later by the same occupiers who will retreat. that is, this is not some territory, well, it is an action zone. i ca n’t even name the occupation in full. something like this, i will tell you that when the second world war was going on, the germans also took pictures of how they were greeted with flowers , that is, you don't need a lot of intelligence to take such pictures, that is, behind these pictures there is only repression, intimidation and terror, nothing else stands there, therefore, in this aspect, there is, i will honestly say, i

am calm about everything from a political point of view, but i would conditionally worry a lot, very stylishly sympathize with those people who today found themselves in this occupation, because today they decide each very well, not about the question of how to preserve friction, how to preserve weapons, property and human dignity and civil dignity, i.e. how later, when we return this territory, so that they are not ashamed to look first of all into each other's eyes, and in fact, this is a very complex task for occupation, it must be honestly understood under the conditions of occupation, no one has any, not that there are any political rights or civil rights, most of the people do not have any, residents of nizhny novgorod, i think that many of them are you, too. beautiful, you realize that. if we talk about useful idiots, do you remember i'm sorry that i i'm interrupting you, i just remembered, do you remember such a character

vyacheslav ponomarev, the self-proclaimed mayor of slavske in 2014, they are very interesting now, while you were talking, i googled it and it turned out that this person who persecuted journalists who announced in slavyansk a witch hunt , that is, according to certain versions, he was killed , but it turned out that this person's path ended. what do you think, with an overdose of drugs, that is, the person quickly left for another world because of such exits that he was crazy with fear and from the examples that are happening around the grenade launchers, that's why the car, and the elevator blew up the road, they are taking this risky step, i have a question for volodymyr movchanovo, here are these people who you said are there some of them are just there from big business, yes they are going, they are going to this

cooperation, why are they trying to protect their fortunes, er, which they acquired illegally, or are they, well, something else that motivates them? well, what is immediately illegal, well, there was no evidence that they acquired it by law . therefore, we cannot claim that it is legal by way. well, let it be so. we are now, i am, and it will be about legality, illegality, for example, the fortunes of bulyuk, those plots of land that he actually owns, but formally, of course, not hard labor. she is now customs officials , but the fact remains the fact that he simply represents such people. that is, i don't want to pretend to be a socialist of some kind and talk about the immorality of the bourgeoisie, quote marx here, but one way or another, it is this business layer that he is most inclined to collaborate with. precisely

because he has more to lose than his own some kind of housing and their own life, that is, they are afraid, and this is normal, even for a person, when she is unable to cope with something overwhelming, she lived that it is more difficult for her to say goodbye to such a person of ours, and that is why it is more among you, you can look at, say deputy kovalev on several deputies of the regional council from various political forces, including patriotic ones, who have already gone to cooperation precisely for the sake of preserving their own declared business and not only according to the international and e.e. unlike the balance, these people could never even be recruited , that is, i i am almost sure that the same bulyuk was not recruited by the fsb, he most likely simply had a corrupt father, zhilka worked, and he now, in order not to lose everything, earn this, his kingdom is uncrowned, he even went to

cooperation with his long-standing political enemy with vladimir the balance well, as for the balance, of course there was another reason . what drives these people? we understand that someone is a recruited fsb agent from the time of the kdb. yes, and his dream was to capture, capture our ukraine. someone is trying to find protection for his gardens, but he continues to earn money even in conditions when you no longer have anything. it's not a fact that it will belong to you later, but how can you not lose this opportunity, well, how about at least a little bit, at least at least a drop of water, that what the one who said ukrainian competences

can imbibe these competences precisely because all their ideas as the balance is trying to enter the ruble zone in the same way. by the way, in the occupied cities of the zaporozhye region, they promise a steering zone , it will lead to the final collapse of the economy of kherson and the kherson region of what is still left and a more serious statement that now the so-called kherson pockets, or whatever they call themselves, are starting to talk about the fact that they will ask the russian federation to establish a military base on the territory of kherson. well, i understand that such statements cannot come out of the head just like that, but at least they are. space, we need to understand how to understand such statements. this is more than any military base, yes, they have already

established chornobayivka, and not only chornobayivka . armed forces that all these people who are allegedly trying to perform the functions of socio-political management, as it is called in theory, are actually nobody and nothing and in fact are simply unable to perform such functions. well, they do not have any sovereignty , legitimacy and legality, they are at best executive by the authorities of the occupation authorities, and i actually propose to sum up our conversation allowed the arrest of viktor yanukovych for treason in the signing of the kharkiv agreements in favor of the russian federation, 12 years have passed since we

in these 12 years, they turned gray and survived the occupation of russia and now there is a war, but it all started in 2010, when yanukovych, as one of his first decisions as president, extended the stay of the russian black sea fleet, they did not survive. i just feel sorry for the people who now the fact that nazi criminals were caught and tried, then i drowned in institutes there was information that nazi criminals were caught and tried, then i was already studying at the university and there was already information that until now nazi criminals were caught and tried, what was already for many there 90 years ago, the question in this aspect is not the time when this justice will be served, the question is its inevitability and irreversibility, and each of these i don't know creatures that goes to increase the sorrow and suffering of the ukrainian people sooner or later will be punished inevitably and

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