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let's return ukrainian patriotic channels to the digital air together we will not allow freedom of speech to be destroyed in ukraine i congratulate this news of the economy during the war i'm andriy yanivskyi on weekdays on the espresso tv channel today we'll talk about davos we'll talk about the exchange rate of the dollar and the hryvnia but let's start with a positive news for ukrainian refugees in germany so, germany has started exchanging hryvnia cash for euros in savings banks will accept banknotes with denominations from 100 to 1000 hryvnias exchange the amount of up to uah 10,000 is possible. the federal ministry of finance and the federal bank of germany concluded an agreement with the national bank of ukraine regarding the volume of currency exchange within the limits of uah 1.5 billion, the conversion into

euros takes place at the exchange rate posted on the website of the bundesbank , one trillion hryvnias. 90 days of a full-scale invasion this was announced by the adviser to the president on economic issues, oleg ustenko , and the losses are planned to be covered thanks to the seized accounts of the central bank of russia, which is approximately 350 billion dollars and thanks to the seized russian property in europe, which will add another 150 billion to the reconstruction fund, they plan to attract also from international partners, this is not debt obligations, but help that ukraine needs, the adviser to the president noted how ukraine will be rebuilt, ukraine is working now, at least a few workers groups that are developing

various plans for the recovery of ukraine, all this will be centralized and a plan for the recovery of ukraine will be issued from a single center. traditionally in the middle, we speak at once with two economic experts who are well-versed in the banking system and questions about the exchange rate of the hryvnia to foreign currencies. this is yevhen dubogrets, e-e analyst of the ukraine case center and mykhailo demkiv e-e financial analyst of the icu group. greetings, dear experts. good day good afternoon, but let's start not with your favorite topics, not with financial ones, but in my opinion very important news, e.e. minister of finance serhii marchenko said that this month ukraine received only a part of the money that we need for

to balance the budget, there is only 2 billion dollars out of the necessary five billion, and because of this, i am very worried about whether there will be money for salaries or whether there will be money for pensions, or whether the lack of money can be covered. our country is independent without external borrowing. let's start, if possible, i like the way serhiy marchenko communicates, he constantly insists that ukraine needs money, constantly insists that there is not enough money, the minister of finance of ukraine needs to do something like this, which will work out money will become, you understand, money has always become in any case, we have an alternative in the form of a nbu printing press, but the question of price is because turning on the machine is inflation, it is deprivation expectations, it is an effect on the exchange rate, it is an effect on the entire economy, therefore, of course, it is necessary to constantly remind

international partners that there is little money, we need more money, and if we do not have international aid , then everything will be bad with the economy, and then we will need even more international aid, so this is rather a warning for the future from serhii marchenko that we need funds and we need them right now, well, in particular, he said that the ministry of finance can attract another billion dollars through such an instrument as military bonds. so, if you have not yet bought such bonds, you can do it through the application. of his bank and also really says that the national bank can support the government, but the ministry of finance does not use this tool as a key tool, mr. mykhailo. is the minister correct in saying that it is not necessary to print money directly? of course he is not.

uh, no, uh, it doesn't mean that the national bank is the biggest uh, in fact, the source of financing uh, the deficit of the budget deficit is uah 120 billion to date. one may get the impression from all these press releases, news interviews, western partners that they are about to provide ukraine with large sums of money, and it seems that the ministry of finance simply does not know where to spend it, in fact it is not so and yet a very large number of conversations about the financing of ukraine about helping it financially , i am not talking here about the military transfer of weapons and so on, they only remain conversations, so the person of may is financed by a budget deficit of

about this is actually due to the sale of military bonds by the people's bank and the national bank of ukraine, less than half of which went to western partners, and in money, that is, less than 6 billion dollars, that is, it is much less than 5 billion dollars every month about what mr. marchenko said. i hope that the foreigners will hear us and increase the funding. maybe they will just waver, and then when will this international support begin to come to us. but as of now, it is not enough, it is really lacking, it is possible that because of this, the dollar exchange rate has become stronger against the hryvnia . even the official one is about 36-37, the market rate, the official exchange rate, i was wrong

, so these 37 hryvnias for one dollar is speculation . is this really what reflects the economic realities now? and in principle, eh somewhere there was a not entirely unfavorable situation for ukraine, in which way we initially tied the exchange rate to the dollar in the name of the invasion, at the same time that due to the monetary policy of the united states, the dollar became stronger against most world currencies, in particular the euro from 1 13 1:14 we reached 1:04-05 and in such a situation we can expect that the ukrainian currency will remain so strong, that's normal. at the moment i think that uh

here were a little bit not quite right and the right decision on the part of the national bank to allow the banks to set the exchange rate of our operations without any restrictions in relation to the official one. earlier, until friday, last week there was a limit of no more than 10%. and in principle, from this situation, everyone was more or less okay, the exporters sold at the official exchange rate of 29-25, realizing that there was a war in the country, and now when they see that banks can actually buy currency at the official exchange rate and to resell them, er, well, in fact, to people who are now abroad for card payments at a rate that is not limited, people have questions in business and why are we doing this, what other goals are we setting before ourselves, the main goal that i heard is

to limit the so-called card tourism when people go, go there, withdraw cash and resell it on the black market. but it seems to me, uh, what do we have to fight with volumes by setting stricter restrictions than those that exist now? 50,000 uah per month can be withdrawn at foreign atms, and in the first days after february 24, it was 100,000 per day, not per month , this is the way it is. it seems to me that we need to fight, not by increasing the exchange rate on the cards, because it gives a signal. a bad signal from the population that the exchange rate can grow further. this is wrong. well, in fact, it is 50,000 it seems to me that in europe, in some european countries, there are not enough restrictions, but the restrictions are only on cash withdrawals. that is, you can pay for larger

amounts without cash, and to the credit of the banks, not all banks immediately made these market rates for cards. i know that at least rights for a long time started near the official lower exchange rate for card transactions, i don’t know how as of today, yevgeny, have all the banks already moved on? overestimated exchange rate eh i would call it market 37 and lose customers or may not earn so much at the moment but in the bank that will keep vinegar the settlement rate for cards abroad is the lowest, it actually wins the most wins the most in terms of the client base. therefore, now the banks seem to me to think that this is better

, and so far i have seen the first two days of the effect of this regulation there, the banks are cautious, no one has set this inflated rate, you know, i would not even talk about any market rate 3738 because in fact, the interbank market as such did not exist all this time, and it seems to me that one of the goals of such regulation of foreign exchange traders and the removal of restrictions is to probe the market to see what the exchange rate will actually be when they enter the foreign exchange market, not only black people players, and troubles, players, banks, and see, that’s why i have come to prove some kind of treason, or maybe the nbu is even acting incorrectly, i would advise well, you can wait at least a few more days until the week to see what other nbu regulations there will be, and already then draw conclusions that someone is there earns fairly or unfairly. here i am clarifying the question exactly according to the exchange rate. the united states promises

to transfer aid in the amount of 40 billion. it is clear that all these 40 billion will go to ukraine. it seems that only 8 of them will directly come to ukraine. ukraine, whether they will affect the exchange rate or not, it is difficult to predict at all. here, friends, let's go. they will come first. let's see how it will be. oh , when, what size will it be, several tranches or some single tranche. how will the situation on the dollar exchange rate be in general? it's such a thing that at the moment it is very poorly predicted, it can be predicted there in the long term for several years, but i know what the rate will be in two days or in a month, it is difficult to show another big event this week - this is the davos economic forum, well, before it was called as sorry, the party is not very serious, where politicians, businessmen, and representatives of the creative intelligentsia gather, let's say. but here in

the new york times article it was written that zelensky's speech, for example, at the davos forum, added seriousness to this event, which he already lacked, what was mostly talked about there on e-e 8 e-e mykhailo, let us now have a word on your side, well e-e it was successful in principle, a large number of e-e questions were discussed, of course the number one question is ukraine e-e was and remains one from the things i heard that pleased me, i was very surprised, especially if this is implemented, this is the possibility of military convoys for civilian ships that enter ukrainian ports to take out goods of ukrainian export, now after february 24, they usually do not enter there because of the russian military threat, what does this mean this means not only that ukraine does not enter the currency

, there is an exchange rate, there is pressure on the exchange rate, we are telling them here how much money is needed from america in order to restrain it, but it is much more desirable that ukraine could export its goods and receive valya in this way. this is important not only for ukraine, but also for the whole world, because this is an issue of food security, e.e. grain does not enter the world markets and russian military aggression obstructs the lives of people far outside of ukraine. first of all, there is a risk nakedness ago, er, some countries , er, nato is not all too much. rather, part of the countries under the leadership of great britain are considering such an option. i do not know whether it will be implemented or not, but if er, british and other warships will provide protection for the export of the same grain from ukrainian ports, then this will be a very

serious factor, as well as in the military plan, more involvement of the troops of nato countries in the ukrainian conflict and will also have a positive impact on the economy of ukraine. well, but i emphasized that this was not mentioned directly from the stands to the form, these were conversations on the sidelines, which is actually also important, because important things are decided on the sidelines, yevgeny. will it help us, if we unblock the ports, to improve the economic i understand the situation that for individual businessmen it is profits, but for the country it reminds me of the second world war, first lend-lease, then makonova, and so on. the main thing is that these pike-carriers, these convoys, are found empty. because we need not only exports, we also need imports. we need those goods that we do not produce, first of all, these are

petroleum products and the question is if they really organize otaki convoys, will we be able to receive more goods abroad and if so, then this should really revive our economy a little, in general, there is the issue of access to our ports, this is actually now so the key thing for the economy of ukraine is what we cannot survive without for a long time, i mean in the state in which the economy is now needed. well, one of the urgent needs of ukraine is the unblocking of deportations, it is the unblocking of both exports and imports, because ukrzaliznytsia simply cannot physically transfer as much as you need for everything, and one more piece of news from the financial sector, this is precisely your specialization, the banking sector remains operationally profitable, ukrainian mass media report, however, id some of them report at the same time what

the banking sector is unprofitable, please explain , it is profitable, unprofitable, what does operationally profitable mean, let's yevgeny, we just talked , let's continue everything very simply, if you take all the first four months from the beginning of the year, the operational sector is profitable, that is, its operations, its main activity, it is profitable, it brings the bank attributes if take the last two months. this is march april, we have huge losses, we have net losses at the level of 10 billion in march and another 7.3 billion uah in april, that is, the banking sector is he is holding up, he is holding up well. he is making calculations, but because of the war, because many borrowers have stopped servicing their debts , and they simply lost business because of the depreciated value of security deposits, the banks are gradually recognizing

losses, and forming so-called reserves, and because of these reserves, we have the banking sector shows net losses and another question we don't have to listen to you i'm sorry, but we'll definitely talk about the financial sector next week ah, i have two short messages that are not very pleasant, but we we should know that the theft of ukrainian grain by the russians continues and this can be seen even from space, russian ships are loading our grain in the occupied crimea, in particular we are talking about the ships that are moored in sevastopol next to the granary, the capacity of such ships is 30,000 tons well , in ukraine there is already a shortage of salt and there is a shortage, there is a price increase, the largest

enterprise in europe, artemsil is not working due to military operations. in accordance with the order of an indefinite shutdown, the director of the enterprise viktor yurin reported this to the director of the enterprise. the administrative building was partially destroyed, there were direct hits to the mines and the warehouse, so production is impossible, but the supermarkets will import salt from abroad, so it will not last long. you will not see salt on the shelves of stores, that's all today. see you tomorrow, this was news of the economy during the war. i'm andriy yanitsky tv channel espresso together, we will win on february 24, the date that changed us, the date that changed the world and now. what interests us the most is our victory, when we will defeat the enemy

, so predict the course of the war, saturday's program the political club returns to the espresso airwaves to help understand the events and predict the consequences. on saturdays, vitaly portnikov and maria gurska will discuss the most relevant issues in order to draw appropriate conclusions. do you want to know how what is happening today will affect our tomorrow ? see saturday's blog, which is saturday, nespresso. congratulations , we continue our broadcast. in a moment we will talk with the defense express specialist - that is, the directors of the information consulting company and military experts serhiy zgurets economy from andriy yaetsky, in particular, they are already writing about it in social networks about salt prices, and in

supermarket chains, and in connection with the fact that the company artem salt is under round-the-clock shelling and has suspended its work, the largest salt production company in europe. well, these thefts by the occupiers ukrainian grain and its export it 's simple, well, it's food crimes not only against ukraine and against the whole world, and i'm thinking about it today, too, in drohobych , there are also famous ones. salt has been very well known since the middle ages, even there, and it was actually the basis of the financial economy of the financial power of the galician volhynia principality in itself, so this drohobytsk salt is very cool, they also have different aromas and make tom and we will not remain without salt. in general , it is harmful to eat a lot of salt . they are deposited somewhere in the joints, they say it’s already good, but it’s like grain , you know, with these, in fact, i’m thinking about talking about it in the swiss davos

. of the whole world that can cause famine in the near future and in the organization of the united nations about it. this was emphasized and succeeded. i think they will also talk about bringing russia to justice. what are we going to cover the events of eh in zdavos today and we will broadcast traditional ukrainian today a breakfast discussion e-e in which the president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi will participate in a video format and will also be hosted by other world publications and yale university history professor timatis snyder this in a moment on our air, and now we are talking live with serhii zgurts, director of the

information consulting company defen from express. congratulations mr. serhii. i greet you so. good morning . well, let's start with the news from luhansk region. possible forces for e-e encirclement of ukrainian forces in donetsk and luhansk regions are trying to capture all territories of e-e regions what is your assessment of the situation in luhansk region and possible scenarios of the development of the situation there in the near future, indeed, the entire front line in this zone remains extremely difficult, starting there from e.e. liman e.e. efforts to

capture this number directly to north donetsk lysychansk, which will actually mean an exit to the administrative borders of the luhansk region. also, i see the map there is movement from the side in order to cut off the lysychansk route, because the bahmuts and to limit the supply of our troops with logistical observations and to complicate the evacuation of people, so they think that it really continues in the near future, the situation will be extremely difficult , the ukrainian army continues to hold the defense of north donetsk in the first place and repulse offensives in other different directions where the enemy are trying to advance, there are directions where we are retreating , moving to another frontier, which are prepared in advance, this primarily concerns the estuary and it concerns the economy, where we also retreated

in view of the active influence of the enemy's artillery and aviation, there are several scenarios here, conditionally speaking, or we continue to hold the defense in severodonetsk osvichenska, secondly, we throw reserves into this zone and repel the enemy's offensives, the third option is that we can start approaching from of this area because these forces that are located there on us are not on one side the most combat-capable and we have to avoid the risk of encirclement, actually this is what can be seen on the map, i think that today the general staff will do some clearer summaries of the situation during the day and by the end of the day we will see the picture in more detail in the event that a decision is made to retreat from

north donetsk and the russians will go there for a strategic and touristic reason does it give them does it change the situation at all at the front? well, actually, i think it is better. the entry of troops into leshchansk in north donets is quite a difficult task. that somehow you can move us to another line of defense, we turn to the defense of mariupol, where it is also a large city, which, relatively speaking, was held for a considerable time, that is, the capture of cities is a significant challenge for the russian federation, and i think that in fact, what can be said about the fact that we we are leaving

severodonetsk for the time being, because it is just the heart. territory in comparison with their ambitions, which were in russia a month or three months ago, let's remember that they wanted to seize the entire territory of ukraine, and now, relatively speaking, ideologically, they claim that the whole of donbas is for donbas - it's a matter of two cities, the seizure of severodonetsk and lysychansk, we see that their lunch and dinner were important, and from the point of view of the operational situation, i think that this is of no fundamental importance, but after three or two minutes , it remains to clarify my question, first of all, i want to understand the correct words mr. arrestovych, who said that there is a risk that a second mariupol will be formed. this is exactly what we want. especially since the ukrainian forces are much larger concentrated in this area. artillery and aviation into donetsk and it just really

ceases to exist as a city, it was the same as popasna mariupol in terms of the civilian population , there were 100,000 citizens, now i think there are less than 10-12 thousand there relatively speaking, the fighting will be directly of the armed forces with the minimization of risks for the population, but really not all of the population has been trained yet, and just as it is approaching it along the road to bakhmut, it is now in formation because the enemy is carrying out constant fire raids there, and they are trying to operate there by intercepting drgs traffic on this route, mr. serhiy, the armed forces of ukraine will receive powerful reinforcements in the form of french self-propelled artillery installations of caesars in ukraine, please tell me a few words about these self-propelled artillery howitzers and what news in general on supplies of allied equipment eh