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an additional advantage because we will win or what? well, what are we waiting for? in that case, they were gal levin , an officer of the israel defense forces, a military analyst, viktor tregubov, a captain of the armed forces of ukraine. vasyl zima my name is vasyl zima two hours of air time and my colleagues are with you until 21:00 two hours of your time we will talk about the most important two hours to learn about the war it turns out our air serhiy zgoretska military summaries of the day and what is the world like? what in the world will yury the physicist tell about two hours more to be aware of the economic news of radio operators oleksandr frowns he talks about the economy during the war and new sports yevhen pastukhov is ready to talk about sports for 2 hours in the company of favorite presenters about culture during the war, lena is ready to speak or something else that many people have become like,
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maybe the weather will at least give us some optimism ms. natalka didenko is ready to tell us and we will also have distinguished guests of the studio today volodymyr hryshko, if everything goes well, events of the day in two hours, vasyl's big broadcast of winter, a project for smart and caring people in the evening, nayspresso. good evening. the resistance of the ukrainian people against the russian occupation during the past day in ukraine. according to the ukrainian general staff, 150 russian occupiers were eliminated and nine tanks were already lost by the russians in ukraine since the beginning of the war personnel 29,450 tanks 1,305 units
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of armored combat vehicles 3,213 units of artillery systems or zust-6 rocket salvo systems 201 air defense means 93 aircraft 206 helicopters 170 motor vehicles 2-217 boats boats 13 cruise missiles 112 drones 491 special equipment 34 units of he is the month of the great war between russia and ukraine . dmytro slava ukraine is glad to welcome you to our studio. so, the 91st day of the great war, 3 months of heroic resistance of the people and the unity of all political forces, when we talk about unity, i ca n't forgive you not to ask you whether
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you have any kind of relationship with the team zelenskyi because when the war started, all the politicians said we are now burying the ax ruins, then we will talk about everything, do you somehow communicate with zelenskyi and his team, eh? employees of the parliamentary factions and groups, including me, were present in the president's office, there was a meeting, well, after the start of the war, and after that i had several telephone conversations with the president, yes, on a regular basis. probably not, but really today, everyone was talking about politics. that today it is necessary to consolidate efforts to fight the russian federation, probably the only politician in ukraine who knows about zelenskyi as a politician everything or almost everything because in
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2018-2019 you worked with zelenskyi in fact, you were the voice and face of the presidential campaign of volodymyr zelenskyi in 2019, but starting from february 24, 2022, have you seen another zelenskyi, because there is a lot of talk in the western press and in ukraine that the president has become less artistic, he has very little there is very little in this artistry and all theatricality has gone away from him, do you see another zelensky, you know uh, um, i think that the war has changed everyone, uh, it has changed the attitude if we are talking about some artistic approaches. well, today is not for jokes ago that every day at the front, and not only at the front , our fellow citizens are dying
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. with many politicians and with all our citizens who respond adequately to the war, who remain patriots of our country, did not run away. will take place tomorrow the day after tomorrow, as you and i would like, but it will definitely be and will be ours throughout the last year. well, at least until october 8, 2021, you were the chairman of the verkhovna rada of ukraine and you obviously possessed all the information as the state leadership, including intelligence data or did you wait or did you expect that
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such a big, bloody and large-scale war would start in ukraine? and to be honest, until the seventh of october, when i was the chairman of the verkhovna rada, there was no such information, unfortunately, when the time approached for the 24th i predicted that there will be a big war, i also talked about it publicly and that we need to prepare for it they won't let me lie, as they say, not my ethical colleagues er hmm information from intelligence from international partners and from internal perception of what is happening that the war will start on the 24th i also told about this on the 23rd to my colleagues the only thing i was wrong i was sure that they would start the offensive on thursday at four o'clock yes as your own
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at the time of fascist germany, the offensive began and the bombardment of kyiv began, i thought that according to the same logic, because the russian federation professes the same nazi ideologies today, they will start at four in the morning, i even expected it, but they did not start, i went to sleep, but at the 11th hour it became clear that internal beliefs played a real role and we saw the true face of russia, so at the beginning of the war i understood that it would happen and it was only a matter of time and on october 7 such information it really wasn’t yet whether ukraine was thoroughly preparing for this now without unnecessary criticism because criticism during war can play into the enemy’s hand, but
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still you witnessed the formation of the budgets for 2020 and 2021, or whether the authorities paid enough attention at all because was happening in the army to provide for the army, because it is clear that now there are many questions about whether there are enough bulletproof vests or enough helmets, well, it seemed elementary what should be at the front, what will be , what should be in the armed forces of ukraine well, if after all, i formed the budget. the chairman of the verkhovna rada does not form the budget . with the figures given to us by the cabinet
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of ministers of ukraine, let's say, i wanted to see a slightly different budget, er, slightly differently formed, and er, hmm, it is possible, today it would enable us to drive the enemy away from our villages, cities, and expel from the territory of our state but we proceed from what we have today. if we talk about the provision of the army today, the army is provided. it is not a big secret in our country. there is a need for weapons because our defenders definitely have enough courage, as they say with their heads . they can still use it. - to share with other countries of the world, and in fact, today you and i need the support of our international partners so that we can drive out the enemy and put up really serious resistance not only through heroism
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, but also using the latest weapons, we are grateful as the state that today also provides heavy weapons to our partners, but it is not as much as it needs, needs, not only wanted, but as needed by the ukrainian army in order to really destroy the onslaught of the enemy that is advancing on ukraine. i calculated that the government would fall very quickly in 3-4 days and only then it would be possible to calmly seize the entire territory of ukraine. three months have passed since february 24. analysts, do you understand that if a person makes a decision, he makes it on the basis of some analytical data, not on intelligence data, the whole
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world is here, there are several components, the whole world lived in the perception that the russian army is the second army in the world, but in reality, ukraine demonstrated otherwise that this is not an army, but a gathering of marauders who do not know how to fight, of which there are many yes, and they are often compared with orcs, there are many of them, but there are no brains, there is no uh, a big role is also played by absolutely demoralization within the army and weapons that were beautifully demonstrated at parades, but in fact, those high-precision, accurate , effective, modern weapons, which were talked about so much, are not also, and many of them today deconserve weapons from the fifties , you know how they say that tanks are removed from
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pedestals for that to somehow send them to the front, but here, too, there is no need to engage in hat-throwing saying that everything is bad there, there are a lot of them, our main problem is that there are simply a lot of them, they have a lot of weapons from the time of the soviet army, and there are many warehouses there in transbaikalia etc. which they will use against us and not only against the army, you see that they absolutely do not have any moral barriers that would not allow civilians, civilians, cities, villages, etc. therefore well, if we are talking with you about uh, about recalculations , this is the first self-confidence they thought that they will be greeted here with flags and flowers, telling us how we were waiting for russian peace, and a completely different society has happened, even one that was normally disposed towards russians. having seen what russia is doing,
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it has completely changed its attitude even today is not on the territory of ukraine. i think that there may be some percentage of those who somehow relate to russia normally, all the others saw the real faces, and the faces not only of putin and his entourage, but the faces of all of russia, because what was happening, many of you in the background video and photos from those cities and towns of the kyiv region, chernihiv, poltava, sumy, kharkiv regions, what the so-called russian army was doing - it's not an army, it's animals, it's not olivier, and it's not putin as one person it is all that is today it is no longer possible to separate them, and ukrainian society and the whole world perceives and
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understands this well. they are waiting for him here, they love him, they respect him, and only when he comes will they greet him with flowers on khreshchatyk, another big moment that played one of the important roles is the occupation of crimea, which is not surprising because they perceived it through the prism of crimea when they came in, that's all well, a large part of the population sincerely welcomed them and wanted to see russia, and they thought that it would be the same in other cities and villages of ukraine, but it happened as it did, on the contrary, they consolidated society, which today stands against russia
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against russia this is a beast from the crimes that the russian federation commits on the territory of our country, so there are many components here. i think that russian corruption also played a big role, so good. of course, in the world, because billions of budgets were spent on equipment, billions of budgets were spent on armaments. where are they in what eh no it was hosidal hm today we also see because international sanctions block the eh yachts and houses of e russian millionaires e i think that of the russian military as well do you agree with the statement that russian peace died in it is more true for ukraine that he was killed by vladimir putin himself 100%. even pro-russian parties or parties that will profess russian peace or politicians have absolutely no future because there
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are no people who supported these ideas yesterday, a poll was released as to how people perceive that there will be a ukrainian victory. more than 80% 82, if i am not mistaken, believe that only the return to the borders of the 13th year is the only way to return to the borders of the 13th year. that it is necessary to look for some other algorithm, but even in the east , where hostilities are going on, where these population centers are under constant fire from the invaders - 62% believe that the victory of ukraine can only be a return to the borders of the 13th year, only 19% of people
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are ready to look for some other options, that is, i understand well, 19 is not enough either, but 62 in the east, which was very often considered such a patrimony, hmm, and where the russian world had the right to exist today, the language was supported, where people thought that they actually existed because all bt, all events and in the language too but all the issues that stood until the fourth number and that split ukrainian society, then he completely removed them today, the only issue for the ukrainian people is the issue and not even only the people of the ukrainian nation, because it is today that it is being born. it is today that it is being fought in struggle with russia, and even today, the key question
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that has taken away everything else, including within the framework of politics, is the question of when we will win, not how, but when, and uh, for this today, everyone must work so that this when will come as soon as possible well, about the victory, because hmm, there are a lot of questions about it, when we will win, we have seen different statements for three months about when the turning point will come, when we will start a counterattack, when we will go to the border, meanwhile, the minister of defense oleksia reznikov is already talking about it what will it be a protracted war for russia in ukraine quite pessimistic forecasts are coming from the mouths of representatives of western special services and what does ukraine need besides heavy weapons, besides the weapons that we expect from the united states of america and the countries that are united in this group rammstein eh 40 ministers of defense eh different
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countries, what needs to be done inside ukraine, because we talk a lot. we have a lot of hopes that the west will help us with weapons . maybe there are some things that the ukrainian government should do and what it is not doing now. including the verkhovna rada well, if we are talking to you about the war, i think that, unfortunately, it will drag on and i predicted it earlier, i don't quite understand my colleagues who said that we will be able to win in a week or two. unfortunately, the enemy is violent unfortunately, the enemies have this, as we said today, there is a lot of biomass that he is ready to throw at the front, not counting losses, unlike us, we are also very different
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from russia in this way, but hmm, for sure victory we will have a question of when in order for it to come sooner there should be several key things, we have already talked about one of them - this is heavy and not only heavy weapons, because it is ammunition, it is small arms, it is ammunition, it is provision, it is, um, howitzers, about which there is already a lot of talk, it is tanks, because without tanks, offensive well, it will be very difficult to carry out operations, and we will have them 100% in order to, uh, it was already discussed today to return to the borders of the 13th year, if we are talking with you about hmm, the second component is the economy, and we can only hope in support of our international partners, not quite logically and wrongly, because uh, we need to restore our economy, we should have already
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switched to uh, the rails of the wartime economy, we need to temporarily restore the economy in those territories that were temporarily under russian occupation, i was talking primarily about the chernihiv region about kyiv oblast about poltava sumy zhytomyr oblast zhytomyr oblast to a lesser extent kharkiv oblast and those oblasts from which we have already expelled the occupier, for this we need to develop mechanisms for the return of enterprises there to create conditions that will give a businessman reasons to return there and not to leave for lviv, or even worse, to look for a better fate abroad . they give us money so
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that the economy can provide people with the minimum needs, but if you look at our structure, the structure of the economy, the structure of our economy today has changed a lot, we have lost a large part of our production complex hmm we lost the opportunity to export metallurgy, today we lost the opportunity to export ukrainian agricultural crops because the ports are blocked by russia and all this volume of production can be sent by rail to european countries or to european ports, well, it is practically impossible for now , we have to look for other mechanisms we need to restore e-e internal production for this, one of the options is that we have already offered e-e for those enterprises, for example, which are moving or are ready to return to restore or in general
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to invest e-e in the regions from which the occupiers were expelled. it would be possible to make credit programs at a preferential interest rate, which we will also receive from e-e partners of two or three percent, and with the guarantee that if these enterprises are affected by the war, the businessman will not be responsible, for example it could be 90%. plus preferential lending conditions, that is, to create such a base that will be attractive for risky business because, well, excuse me to return to borodyanka, return to makarov, irpin bucha, you also need to have courage patriotism and confidence in the fact that everything will be fine in this state, but the state must also support the businessman. why am i talking about the return of the enterprise or the creation of an enterprise in these territories, because today there are ideas. let
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's restore and build new ones. cities, for example, there near borodyanka or something for the displaced people, it’s good, but we can’t just build in a clean field, uh, these cottages, uh, towns , or yes, or something else. take people, transfer them there and just leave them, they must work somewhere. these must be enterprises, if we are talking about the kyiv region , such a bridgehead for the economy can be the city of kyiv, but for example, borodyanka, too, but it is a little far. therefore, it is necessary to approach this process comprehensively, develop complex long-term plans such as the economy will work, today we need to focus our attention on our defense and industrial complex in order to provide the ukrainian army on the one hand, well,
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we have good examples of the use of the corsair. another system is already in use, but it is showing itself quite well at the front, and the russian apala or russian tanks are a direct confirmation of that. but if we increase the power, we can also supply the ukrainian army and use it as a commodity. on the international markets, and i say once again that no one simply misrepresented that, first of all, we must ensure our armed forces, but also have the capacity to export these products . when you say all this, i understand what it is all about the sphere of responsibility of the cabinet of ministers, which is the minister of defense of the prime minister ? frankly speaking, i always have
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the feeling that we have a cabinet of ministers and, or at least there is a group of people who duplicate the government 's decisions regarding reconstruction and construction regarding certain decisions of hetmantsev says a lot about what the tax system should be. what is the government thinking and that the prime minister is? sometimes i just don't understand because it gives the impression that they work as one of the divisions of the office of the president of ukraine. i just understand that there is a mono government. teams, i understand all this , but still, who should deal with this program of recovery and renewal of the economy in ukraine, uh, according to the constitution, it should be the government, but really, who does this according to the constitution, it should be the government, uh, realistically, it should be a joint work of the government uh
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of the verkhovna rada of the president's office, because objects without any of the above-mentioned e-e elements, this structure will not work, the government will not be able to write programs that will not be under creep-reinforcement , backed by law e-e laws are adopted in the verkhovna rada of ukraine, on the other hand, the president he is responsible for you, first of all, he is the supreme commander, secondly, he is responsible for international politics, well, he is key in this direction, if we are talking about recovery, then recovery, and what we are talking about now, let's say this the current recovery, what will we talk about with you about the strategic recovery after the victory? it will be very difficult to do without the help of our international partners, so there is a large area of ​​responsibility for the president, on the other hand, the president signs all the laws that are adopted by the verkhovna rada of ukraine, but here i cannot i do not agree with you that first of all there should
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be one person responsible for each direction, it cannot be 2 3 5 because then you will not find the extremes and the point of decision making which responsibility should be on to one person, it can be, for example, in the office of the president in the cabinet of ministers of ukraine in the verkhovna rada, but one because then the transfer of hot potatoes from one hand to another will begin, there must be a strategic vision and planning of what we will do. well, for example, we we talked a little with you about what needs to be done today, this is only a small piece because if we go deep and talk in every direction, i also have my own vision there. until the evening, but if we are talking with you about the future of ukraine, then today, or rather yesterday, we should have sat down and written a parallel plan for the
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recovery of ukraine after the victory, because today ukraine has a lot of attention, many countries are ready to help us, and we often hear statements that this or that country is ready to rebuild this or that city, help this or that region a-a but for now this is within the framework of the statements uh-uh, you should not waste time already sitting down today and specifically prescribing how they see this recovery and what will be needed to ukraine well, i understand that we cannot now talk about luhansk donetsk region, but nothing prevents us from talking about kyiv region about chernihiv region well, for example, there is a country a that says i am ready to help chernihiv region, let's sit down today already on paper as part of the memorandum let's write so that they are ready to rebuild so many schools in such and such
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communities, that's so many kilometers of roads, to help with infrastructure projects, to attract investments so that this is our joint plan the plan of this state was already on the table, and when the time came, i spent time trying to somehow prescribe it plus er . therefore, politics should work as much as possible already today, working out and developing our joint plans, strategic plans, what will we do after victory, don't waste time, it's true that you are advocating the need to return the death penalty for corrupt people who can embezzle international everyone likes help already after victory, but yes

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