uh, the terrain, you see the geography of the area, it’s almost water there on all sides, and our forces are at a height, it doesn’t affect our theater of operations in any way, and the only thing is that there is a certain threat for bakhmut, that the enemy’s artillery has become closer, but its calculate even without the use of drones and it becomes much easier, because from a height, flashes are visible from a height, exhaust is visible, and you can hear and hear all these exits of shells and, uh, our high-precision modern artillery just need to work with high precision and destroy, destroy, and destroy some more since it is proposed to clarify such a question not of the battle plan, but also extremely important the level of provision of our fighters, in particular, and the regime of payment of wages, as with this case well, to be honest,

when we are actually in the trenches, er, in the basements, in the buildings, we are holding the defense well, understand correctly now, in order to give an interview there, it is quite difficult to find the internet, most of the fighters there find an opportunity there once a day or once every few days to sign to their relatives that it is okay to go on the internet or even once a week er, hmm, i’m already silent there about checking the cards , the balance, the resources, er, there about wages and i don’t even know how to comment because they have a negative impact on what is necessary for our military, you have enough ammunition, there is enough there, the only problem is the provision in terms of delivery, but and storage so that it does not get lost during maneuvers, but in principle more than, well, it is quite enough to ensure that we are in touch with

dmytro zamazin, a member of the mariupol city council, mr. dmytro, we congratulate you, glory to ukraine, we see you, mr. dmytro, the only thing we don't hear is what you hear. now you're gone , gone with the wolf. glory to ukraine, dmytro. we congratulate you . good afternoon. we wanted to ask you about the situation in occupied mariupol, so as of yesterday, the exit was blocked. we are talking about the attempts of the people of mariupol to leave for our territory from under occupation . this story, in general, the situation is very complicated, the occupiers together with the cooperators have not released the residents of mariupol for a long time,

moreover , i can say that they are doing everything to... how are they spreading rumors that they will give their property to the residents of mariupol who still have something in the whole e-e some houses in the village e-e encourage why do they need it because about three quarters of mariupol residents have left the city and even for the russians e- there are not too many interested viewers. it's a beautiful picture. it turns out that the city is practically empty. there really are 100,140,000 residents of mariupol left there. and you, most of them also want to leave because the conditions are very difficult there, there is no food there, there is no medicine there, well.

in fact, there are no conditions for life, therefore the situation is quite difficult and the occupiers are making it more and more difficult every day, nothing. they are not going to rebuild, but anyway, if we are talking about this exceptional atrocity, it concerns the blocking of exit to ukraine and at the same time they allow exit to russia yes, it feels like they want to eliminate potential witnesses of their crimes in mariupol, because really those who left, even those who, like me, left in march. we told a lot and the corresponding to the authorities regarding the crimes committed by russia, to the regret of those witnesses who have a lot of information, eh, they just disappear, well, they simply

disappear , ah, in the direction of the eh, so-called dnr. it seems that the city is being rebuilt, but almost nothing is going to happen there, and the situation there is still getting worse with regard to the situation that with the departure, even we know that there in the direction of vasilivka, everything is now blocked , and even the relocation of mariupol residents from from district to district within the city limits, it is limited without filtering, this is impossible. unfortunately, this is such a concentration camp. the russian federation, this terrorist state, has made a concentration camp in mariupol , and what is happening there are the local residents, what exactly are they afraid of, why are they

filtering these people so much i'm sorry, they're even undressing, they're looking at tattoos, look at this. yes, the situation escalated out of fear of the russians ' comp. one ship sank and from that time all these filtering moments began with interrogations and requests and so on. well, that is, the first days there from march 14th to march 17th, somehow they passed such things at their god posts weak control, and then , unfortunately, it only intensified and reached such a frenzy of racism when people were actually

tortured and interrogated for days in concentration camps, that is, a person can be interrogated for two days in a row without a break, and their only goal is to find loyal ones citizens of the ukrainian state, well, such and such a combination of words loyal to the ukrainian state, well , in general, the majority of citizens of ukraine, except for collaborators. they love their state and they are tortured because they love their state. we do it further because people disappear or people are killed. unfortunately, there are really many people from

whom there is simply no information. then many people are taken to yelenovsk. they are taken to the dpr and the question of the prisoners of the dpr is quite open. well, unfortunately, there is no large-scale liberation of these people, and many people, and most of them are civil servants , they simply disappear without a visitor, and you cannot even get any news about where are they located , such a difficult situation with this. it is a pity to hear about azovstal. i know that the russians are trying to clear mines there, or they are looking for something, and periodically they have a cotton operation there, and there are some explosions, and do you know anything about the azovstal plant in particular about ilyich, too, yes, yes, regarding azovstal , they probably want to make such a

propaganda picture for the residents of mariupol and for their russian consumers. this is what creates the appearance that they are doing something there, looking for something, demining something, well, in general, considering the fact that they simply destroyed the factory and still there is nothing alive in relation to the fact that it corresponds to the sphere of interest of their collaborators and of the occupiers, er, it is er, to spray the azovstal plant just for scrap metal through sports, to take it out and sell it, they are already in the open in their public places, they publish that the sports of mariupol left the first ship, which er, hung metal on the russian

federation, this is even news, they have this they don’t even hide it. and regarding the illich plant, they spread such nonsense that some chinese bought the illich plant and will restore it, but even a person who is not familiar with the technological process does nothing it is impossible to do because in the city there is still no electricity or water supply . moreover, there is no gas supply without these components, without any raw materials , it is not possible to start any technological process, it is possible there, maybe they have some repair bases there, they can only use it for repair of their scrap metal and military equipment there, and partially. therefore, all this works for propaganda in order to give the people there some carrot, you know,

for which you need to run with promises. and what we are told even there by the heads of condominiums which they left recently, uh, they invited people and said, well, we need to dump there with money to fix this and that, well, that is, russia does not rely on anything to restore. dmytro wanted to ask you. maybe you heard something on civilian word-of- mouth radio about the promotion of history by the defenders of mariupol with the heroic mariupol garrison maybe some information is circulating among the residents of mariupol, and from the other side, you may have received information that maybe some of the boys were able to get out in one way or another. well, let me tell you honestly, i am very much for our boys and the girls well, i am so worried because

unfortunately they are not yet in a-ah ukrainian territory under control, so i would not like to comment. and all the more so because the official authorities also say that it is better until then. all of us are defenders they will not return from the territory controlled by the russians, it is better not to raise this issue. i know only one thing that our guys are simple , and what i saw when i was in mariupol in march, they laid down there so many of this horde of hordes, so many orcs that just them, well, no one not counted. i know that the russians threw elite special forces there. i personally saw these people, they are not some alcoholics who are there at the checkpoints in berdyansk, they were really elite units, so here are our guys, heroically, and they were all crushed by these

elite units, and why is putin exactly for he is there, mariupol is so fundamental because he was probably so happy there every time, we still need to send another squad there and we will definitely take mariupol , but nothing came of it, only there were losses from the russian side, so for putin, mariupol is such a personal defeat, well, for us, we wanted to believe that it would be a personal victory for us, but in any case, we also know that the history of mariupol does not end, it absolutely continues. of the russian federation, mykhailo mizentsov. he said that from eight o'clock today, green humanitarian corridors will be opened for foreign

vessels, which are in particular in the port of mariupol, and even the sea was partially unblocked . do you know whether any processes are currently taking place in the category due to this, looking at how the process was carried out along the green corridors when the russians there said that yes, we will give a green corridor, and as a result, they fired all the ways along the so-called green corridor, and i personally, uh, used the so -called supposedly through a green corridor that was voiced by the russian federation there, er, there were no green corridors there for a long, long time, well, to believe the russians is to believe, to believe the russians is to disrespect yourself. i think something like that should have happened referring to our speaker, dmytro zamzyn, a member of the mariupol city council, who apparently has little

faith in the possibility of some green humanitarian corridors for foreign vessels that are in particular in the port of mariupol and not only there, roman kostenko, an officer of the armed forces of ukraine, a people's deputy of ukraine from we congratulate you on the novel. glory to ukraine. congratulations to the heroes. glory to the heroes. the enemy has already shelled mykolaiv again. unfortunately, there is nothing new here, but the tornado s missile system, which in general now the situation in the city and in the region. i think you are right here. it would probably be more unusual if we said that the enemy did not shell mykolaiv today , so the enemy is really constantly shelling mykolaiv and many villages that are located in towns near mykolaiv, and this is his constant tactic of hitting civilians the population and hit the residential areas uh situation i guess i won't say anything new

the situation is tense right now on this information that the enemy is withdrawing additional forces in the direction of mykolaiv there is information that he uh is pulling up additional tanks on to the mykolaiv direction. well, the situation, er, the situation looks like this: the enemy is still accumulating, er, he is accumulating his forces near mykolaiv, and he has not abandoned, let’s say so, his plans, if before the capture of the south of ukraine, we must understand this and realize how much i understand the enemy is concentrating for another attempt to break through the defense of mykolaiv, so that is, or is he just concentrating for some more local stories , see the enemy while he is concentrating and his main tasks are work in the east, that is, on exiting administrative borders, we see that things are

going very hard in them now, that's why we understand that the enemy can at any moment redirect his efforts, i still think that he will try to push all the way to the east, but we have information we can see that the enemy is starting to transfer more heavy equipment here, this can help. because our troops knocked out a lot of their equipment and burned it. well, in order to concentrate the troops in general for a further breakthrough, i want to say that even if the enemy does not have goals are closer days this is a war with us very quickly. everything changes. maybe today is not there, but tomorrow the operational situation will change. if he has no plans for today, if he will do it tomorrow, then tomorrow these plans may change. i think that the enemy is trying to capture enough of the force of means. to have the opportunity at any moment to go further to mykolaiv and to odesa. well, when i talk about mykolaiv, i mean the mykolaiv region

. they are pulling mainly from the kherson region from the occupied crimea. oblasts in particular well, they are what they are hauling . as a rule, it is either by railway tracks from crimea, and in crimea everything is delivered through the kerch place, what about the novels, a few more questions that relate to the general position of the military of affairs in our country, luhansk region was already in contact with us, we detailed some things, in particular, to understand the situation, well, look , when it came to kharkiv region, there was an understanding that it was necessary to repulse the enemy in the izyum direction, and this would give an opportunity. well, let's say a little facilitate the work of our forces further on luhansk region now we understand that holding

luhansk region we do not allow the enemy to move further into the donetsk region, we understand that all this has well, i do not know the appearance of such a creeping history and the most important thing for us is to really fight them back at all points. from yesterday to for example, the svetodar arc , eh, supposedly our guys left and the girls left the position in particular, well, they say it doesn't make any more sense , we'll come back when it becomes possible again, nevertheless, in your opinion, how does it affect the balance of forces in general, and do i somehow know that not uh, the operative environment is approaching, which is so often talked about now in luhansk region, the situation is so very difficult, uh, probably one of the most difficult in the entire theater of hostilities, and you really sometimes have to uh, leave your positions, even when you see that the point is to hold them but for example

, someone was pushed from the right or the left, and even if you stay in these good, good, busy positions, you understand that it is difficult to bypass you, that's why all this waste they have such a well, let's say interconnected uh, they are all among themselves are interconnected because those who control the forces of donetsk and luhansk regions see the situation as a whole that you cannot stay in any settlement until the end, even if it is 100% suitable for defense. well, often it seems that the military -e not often and in-in and another such factor is taken into account er-e when we are in some populated area and the enemy begins to destroy the populated area, you often seem like the armed forces are trying to leave now but not the point to take positions in order to er not not that the enemy is negative because of this, it did not happen often, it happens, including in mykolaiv oblast, there are also in luhansk oblast, that is why the situation there is tense, the enemy is pressing the enemy on the hm

narrow sections of the front. -he of his troops and is trying to push our defense like a rolling pin, it means his oiliness, resourcefulness, why in the life of his russian soldiers, well, their firepower is really an order of magnitude, unfortunately, higher than ours. we will hope that with the help of the promised artillery systems, the situation is somewhat leveling out by returning to mykolaiv and to a possible new phase of the attack on it from the russian enemy, here is the latest, more precisely, extreme interview of general marchenko , one of the authors of the defense of mykolaiv, yes, it says that the enemy could achieve extremely great successes i would very much not like that, well, in

the case of the current absence of general marchenko, someone would be transferred to command in a direction unknown to me, but i would very much not like that some disaster would happen in terms of weakening of defense, you as a military man, as a well- informed person, do you feel that everything is being done properly, because in this situation, it might even be necessary to somehow speed up, well, in general, i see who is now here on the defense, this is colonel andriy ignatov, who is the commander in in this direction and manages the defense, this is an experienced , experienced officer with a capital e-e. let's say so , and i believe that in principle he will fulfill his task e-e here in terms of defense. well, we have enough resources to restrain the enemy and looking at the fact that the enemy is amassing significant forces, but

we also have the means, fortunately, it is coming here and the help may not be in such quantities as we would like in order to move to a counteroffensive, but i also see a climate-motivated personnel e- is located here, i think that we are getting a tense situation and it happens in different ways and the artillery is hitting, but everyone is aiming now at the defense , holding on to holding their positions, not surrendering further south, not knowing what to ask of the mykolaiv odesa region regarding further offensives counter offensives well, let's start from those, let's say so , the situations that will be further, er, that will develop further, but the fact that the enemy captures information comes from kherson, occupied by the russians , how actively are they preparing for our possible counteroffensive? well, in general, this is the regime of terror that they are implementing specifically

counter-intelligence works in kherson, uh, um, in kherson, the regime has fixed it, they’re not there, you just know, uh, curfew also works. and the situation, what is the situation like when you are under an invader who dictates to you what to do, who considers you to be a person there, not of the second, but of the third grade, at the expense of whether they are preparing for a counterattack. believe me, they are afraid of us, very strong , and despite the fact that in general they prevail with their mass, but they do not in any case, they do not outdo us in terms of morale, and even if we have such great resources behind them, they understand that we are morally more stable and they are very afraid of leaving the kherson region, because we understand that the enemy has blocked this exit but perhaps we should take some non -symmetrical measures on our part in order to, well

, i don't know, to break this border, not to leave. let 's say that there are victims when people leave, they come under fire because there are constant battles and the question of breaking the border not by leaving it's not all that simple, well, first of all, no one will be added from the enemy so that they let our people through there, because well, i think it will be worse for our people, uh, there will be uh, well, they won't give opportunities after all, it's the second time to do it. well, if you mean to break it up by military means, then it is also not so easy, because if people get into the war zone, it will be very dangerous . therefore, now there is a real problem for those who did not leave in the first days, unfortunately, now there is a problem for them to leave khersonska oblasts there. some seep in, some

can, but in general it is very often blocked, and the russians themselves do not give people the opportunity to leave because they understand that this is also a resource for them and a resource they will use to cover themselves in the event of an attack by the ukrainian army, and they mine it like that i don't know if there are auxiliary roads , guides, are the fields mined there? well, because people could , in the end, throw their zhiguli there and try to get out on foot . areas they are controlled either by the russian federation or by our troops where we stand alone on the opposite side. therefore, they usually overlap , so it is not so easy. it can be done by some local residents who live in these areas, they can be there somewhere, but there are really changes

local mines are mined very often. that's why it's all very dangerous. we have one more question that literally remains for a couple of minutes. on may 17, draft law 7380 was registered in the verkhovna rada, which provides for the expansion of the main intelligence department to the intelligence and counterintelligence department. its initiators are a number of people's deputies of ukraine. improvement of the capabilities to carry out counterintelligence activities by the authorized bodies of the association of military intelligence and counterintelligence functions of the intelligence agency of the ministry of defense of ukraine please comment on this, uh, was it actually successful , and where am i, and so on. comment if anyone was interested in this law. look, please, there is an author of the law, and after that there is no signatory in the committee on issues of defense security and intelligence. i

could end on the answer to this is eh, but i will also say from my point of view that now is not the time to accept this law, first of all, it is not wrong from my point of view, conceptually, it cannot be done in one body even if it is gur, the intelligence body and intelligence control are different in general activity in its form, we, er, made reforms starting in 1991, we fought all the time for intelligence to be engaged in development, and control and control of intelligence, they did not intersect anywhere, so i will say mildly that this bill is not that it is out of date, it according to its form, it should not be adopted at all. there are some normal things in this draft law, but it completely breaks the reform that we worked on the security service of ukraine. some of it was taken out of context. let's say that the norms that we made he destroys

the foreign intelligence service cannot do this under any circumstances, this institution was built and destroyed during this independence, it must be raised because it is an analogue of the cia and it is political intelligence that should occupy a worthy key place and it is written in the law that it occupies a key place in general in the special services of ukraine, we are destroying it so that you understand, we are trying to clean it up and make it smaller, it’s just that someone doesn’t like something, well, and thirdly, i said about gur, with all due respect that gur is a serious organization, it should be engaged intelligence, not counter-intelligence, no matter how much someone wants to exert more powers, thank you, thank you, mr. colonel, colonel roman kostenko, an officer of the armed forces of ukraine and a people's deputy of ukraine who is now