let's all understand that china could gain more support and have ways. the chinese do . well, they avoid it, but in a clever way, they marked it cheaply. the mogilian academy and the director of the school of political analysis naukma was with us in connection with maxim's passive, we already have our next online guest. this is mark voencher, a military analyst senior researcher at the institute of european political analysis in the states, former special adviser to the commander of american forces in europe, congratulations marko good day and thank you for the invitation glory to ukraine glory to the heroes so rammstein, we understand that the west is gradually but finally trying to provide us with powerful weapons on the other hand, we understand that weapons we need a lot and here the main question is how

long will our allies support us, we understand that it is about history for several months maybe by the end of the year we are talking about a war with the russian federation and maybe even further america and nato western europe in general will support you as much as necessary until the end until your victory is beyond doubt - this is this statement if you heard the secretary of defense of the united states, general lloyd austin, who i have served extravaganza. by the way, he is a very serious person, a very serious leader, and he wasn't uh-uh to say. so it's real. america is ready to support ukraine until the end, until the victory, oh , many other uh-uh western leaders uh-uh have already listened

on the part of great britain, too, so that what is for defense , for nato, the victory of ukraine, and this means the liberation of the territory that russia captured, therefore, and er, i did not worry about at what moment the aid will end, but simply if er, combat operations will be even more intense and you really need heavy weapons, if the western countries will be able to do so quickly, what do you do with this system, what do you need, what and other and other companies that produce it, for example , for teachers, which and other means have already signed contracts worth several billion dollars ago and the

american military defense complex is seriously preparing to help ukraine on a two- year plan, so i would not bargain that i will be in the conditions will end suddenly. in the form of the prospect of finland and sweden joining there, and it is clear that there was a certain reaction in the russian federation to this, but one of the member countries of the north atlantic alliance, or rather turkey, actually has its own the vision under which conditions finland and sweden can join nato. how do you assess these conditions? it is clear that under any proposed circumstances, each of the countries will be guided exclusively by their own interests, but hmm right here and now we are talking about global security for those who wants to somehow fence themselves off from the most evil

aggressor in the world at a convenient moment to insert such conditions. and we have already seen them, er, turkey made them er, publicized. they relate to the support of er, well, from these countries, er, tk and others organizations which a troetschyna is considered terrorist and also the arms embargo, which was previously accompanied, indeed, turkey will also try to negotiate, and the plan is specifically for you, the president. i think that hooray within the framework of nato, this problem was

discussed, so it will be a difficult victory. victories there will be compromises, too. and i am sure that in the end, in the end, turkey will get some part of it with its demands. that's why i don't believe it. i want to believe that finland will not be able to become a member of nato in communication with turkish students, uh, follows us, turkish demands can be implemented and taken into account here, because for this , finland itself, sweden itself, and the entire north atlantic alliance will have to succeed to a certain extent, why is this important for us, because the door to nato is open er, this is our er, perspective, interests, and we are just now actively

heading towards these doors, i don’t know how far they are from us, but we should talk less about the fact that, for example, kurt volker, an american diplomat in davos, er- i think he said after the war with russia, ukraine should become a member of nato. everything changes, for example, before the full-scale question of accession. the european union did not look promising. but after the start of aggression, many things will change. i believe that the guarantee of ukraine's security is cooperation with nato. in my opinion, it is a reasonable decision of president zelensky to withdraw the entry into the north atlantic alliance is on the agenda so that everyone can see that russian president putin is at war with ukraine not because of nato, but simply because of our existence, so remove it on the agenda is the entry of ukraine into nato, how do you see it in view of all the above, well, what kind

of domestic political dynamics is yours, what your president zelenskyy said. and of course, my colleague kruzokeri . at the international forum, you have to listen, well, he knows ukraine and nato very well, so he gives his own reasons why he said that. in other words, there is no such organization in the world. i remember the last time we talked perfectly. we talked about special

relations there, both with israel and with singapore, singapore, but realistically, it is only nato. maybe there is no need to have any illusions that's why, in my opinion, your guidelines should be continued, well, you should try and fulfill them, but this is a matter of big trades. so we can see now how insufficiently active is the position of the nato member countries with the black sea in the basin, we are talking about a very strange position of turkey which is trying in every possible way to strengthen economic ties with the russian federation, on the other hand, we see a rather sluggish reaction from romania and bulgaria, and we hoped that they would help . and this would be

a very necessary initiative to ensure access to ukrainian grain if there is a global crisis in the summer, as we know it, for many months now everyone is talking about the crisis in the immediate future and in africa is part of the russian hybrid war, you know, to use refugees and hunger, economic and other crises in the global consolidation so that europe and the west were, well, the focus changed from ukraine to the south, and britain always took such a tough position, well, the prime minister minister johnson , the minister of defense, of course, that's why we still need it, within the framework of, for example

, this project, and in relation to bulgaria, romania, romania is such a solid partner, and it's a member of the eastern championship. flanders bulgaria vona has a lot of problems with the government of oblast, there are very pro-russian forces there, socialists there, pro-russian parties, unfortunately, there are also very big problems with aid for ukraine. it’s a real shame, but i see the reality like this until the fish farm. about the more active project and about the western pro-ukrainian , but about turkey. yes, we said that it has its own interests. by the way, it does not want conflicts. some of the conflicts in the black sea

. dried oil from ukraine, you produce 40% of the world quantity of such a massive amount of this important grain and so on, and so on, and so on, and i think that if these were operations in the u.s., so far it has been repeated by the un, for example, there may be a nato operation, but but to give you the kindness to say that and it will be real, but we need to work with these countries, each of them has its own requirements, its own problems from its own position, and this is, well, a little bit of the state department and the ministry of defense of the united states and the ministry of defense of the great britain i think we will be able to achieve much more than just with the help of the

united nations organization thank you very much mark mark woider military analyst senior researcher at the institute for european political analysis in the united states ex-special adviser commander of american forces in europe worked live on espresso tv channel well, we are summing up this analytical hour of our conversation with andriy piontkovsky, political scientist, publicist , mathematician, candidate of physical and mathematical sciences a leading researcher of the institute of system analysis members of the american mathematical union mr. andriy, we congratulate you glory to ukraine andriyevich, we see how various diverse diplomats have come to life, so they are already starting to drag kissinger's effigy around the world's various forums again, so luigi mario, er, the italian prime minister was also born with a certain plan, i.e. it's all for a reason, it's

not just some kind of initiative of idiots, they see something and accordingly they will lean towards something and it's not for nothing that masha zakharova is half crazy recently refuted a statement from the russian foreign ministry that they say they would not have received any italian plan well, this is the wrong company leading from one center, fair, we know what kind of center it is and that's why geochemistry don't leave the russians don't drive them away google let's stop the destruction of the war united well, in general, the kremlin's deep agents and-y what kind of people is already written as macron, the italian prime minister's council and-y something has not stopped here

also the whole of old europe and here is another plus one of that moscow in lviv today moscow understands that in a month when it will earn a full powerful letter when the performance of the ukrainian army will begin their task now they have thrown away all their reserves in order to seize them to open in one or two weeks what else pieces of ukrainian territory, and with the help of this european culture, cut the peace of the truce in ukraine by putting it in italian, understand what was said, they quarreled with my words. bilateral negotiations of russia, ukraine, and the territories that have already been captured, that is,

crimea and kherson oblast, have succeeded in the stage of capture, this will all already be disputed territories that will be discussed by europe. and why did masha zakharova include the fool instead of saying yes, we received the italian the plan, we are working with him, we will now hold some consultations. she says no, we did not receive anything. the operation was stopped . let's give way to such an authoritative leader as, er, macaroni shorts, er, masha zakharova, say that they have shown hypnotism with them, let's break the negotiation, well, that is, in essence, this is the so-called georgian scenario of 2008 stretched over time. yes,

only well, instead of sarkozy, we have other players . but on happiness ukraine withstood the blow of the blitzkrieg and there is no reason to talk about the fact that, well, i don't know , there are russian tanks near tbilisi and we need to invite sarkozy to agree on something, that is, there is no such position ukrainian diplomacy by mouth kuleb very clearly crossed out everything, this is the standard place of the asked president, well, with a french surname, they will make out the legal seizure of russia , sarcasm, he ran there with the paper money of america, chamberlain , eh, фермазовать , capture of abkhazia. the capture of donbass through minsk 2 h now we are talking about someone minus the meeting is honest so that our

zakharova did not speak accidentally, it is obvious that putin is the leader of the macron council and is acting as a single team, but now he is on крашение сейчас i have real western allies of great britain, if you read the leader of which officially declared that this state is a victory for ukraine, the definition is victory, restoration through real time, and here is мне 18 , мне останяется цены войны его читает расслабление for as long as you want it to be, so that it will never happen again could repeat these tricks with the seizure of territory by the then french president and with the pocketbooks of america, well, in any case, we understand that in the united states there will now also be a pre-election phase of the attack, we we understand that the democrats have certain internal problems, and here now the

so-called problem of taiwan comes to the fore. and this is not a joke. literally the other day, the russians and the chinese conducted some joint military exercises. yes, they were moving in the direction of japan. well, this is a symbolic demonstration . - the present relationship of china to the lviv-ukrainian war, it was discovered that the secret channels of the chinese sages, as i call them, are closed reports, reports of comrades' advisers, and i published them, here are them automatic acquaintances there in samokhressky painting eh characterizes the course of the war as if eh the chinese are considered to have already suffered defeat and this historical situation for

me is only today's eh russian regime eh traditional russian games from which it will not depart, this situation will set the pace of the deodorization process on the whole of the all- asia space, the russian federation appreciates the chinese very kindly with their inclusive allies. well, what did we not want to receive from russia, we understand that ? why? the chinese can wait on the other side, ukraine is bleeding, the battles are ongoing, we understand that the west is actively providing us with everything we need, so to speak, but far from everything, as it turns out, and everything takes a long time to arrive. so the guys at the front are worried. well, accordingly, china is playing a long game. but it is possible it would be beneficial for china to wake up and start , you are already more active and continue to play in their 1000th anniversary, the

second road is sacred. this war will be a shambles for you, he came from the olympics on the fifth of february and began an active decisive phase - china is not you with victory, the theory of the great chinese philosopher of war, a thousand-year- old sage who has to sit for more and wait for the phone to come under one at a time, does n't it look like china is now profitable, well , in fact, any variant of the development of events, if ukraine holds out, it will hold out if the russian federation becomes weak enough to do more harm from it, as they say, don't wait at least a few

years or decades, it will end up in ruby , in china's own orbit, if the russian federation prevails and wins, then the whole civilized world, led by the united states , will be, well, it seems to me that china is greatly weakened after this confrontation, and here too my interests. i am simply leading to the fact that it seems that we are entering the millennium of china, so to speak . just restore the territory of the country as if it were chinese land, he also has it at

19.5 . taiwan, this is how i would have brought ivansu himself to include him, and we will see the simple ability of the inability of the west, that is, a soldier in the ukrainian war. the speaking ukraine is suffering and protects not only the west, but also china and taiwan, and in general, the idea of ​​democratization by a standing authoritarian state . pervoochistkoukraynskoi voyny i segodno pobedu ukrainy kodga war will be command-based it will be determined again in history 25 but before that, so to speak, we still have to live and to a large extent it will depend on the amount of resources in particular and human resources in the russian federation because we see that it is oil on the contrary, the shortage strengthened the russian economy to a certain extent, but

accordingly, we understand that the extremely high forces in combat resources in russia are very good. we would hope that this tool will work or not. the station will work, it will work for a long time, it will increase the entire economy, but it turned out that the pace of weakening of the military-industrial complex was high with such a fake, existing warehouses in siberia have long been sintered tanks of the 80s, produced in the 80s and 90s, with american woods, the military-industrial complex of russia could not

compete with italy. who are more likely to talk about financial services for you in russia from reductions, but it seems to me that the main impact is a technologically strengthened opportunity, and that’s all, andreevich , when the buryats will raise the white flag, so to speak, well, buryatia, well, jokes are jokes, but buryats, i will soon become desolate, this is a tragic region which suffers greatly from the use of residents of the war against ukraine tactics small nations indigenous peoples or nationalities national minorities are used in this war simply as meat, and only then can the muscovites with st. petersburg’s grandfather life is so bad, it’s a guard there, in my opinion, 10,000 months is enough for you to lay down your scenario because they are killing

ukrainians and you are dying yourself, the weather is being used by a scientist well, but when will this internal process of russia begin, you his policy of recruiting troops so that they do not come to moscow. petersburg, this is dangerous, and we are doing it. you come to dagestan for a walk, a provincial russian city , this does not threaten practically. but in moscow, he himself huy zaborka don't give it to me, it doesn't even come for you novice moscow middle class, thank you for this inclusion of mr. andriyu andriy pyankovsky, a political scientist in a publicist, e-e candidate of physical and mathematical sciences, a member of the american mathematical union, he was in touch with us well, as always, very qualitatively actually and sufficiently equidistant so to say it is generally a sign of info information quality and we invite

our tv viewers to sign a petition on the return of three ukrainian normal healthy quality tv channels to the network t2, from which we were unfairly kicked out. and i thank christian yatskiv for his brilliant analysis and inspired work. you don't just inspire the audience , you inspire me. the possibility of remaining united emphasizes ah-ah shar-michel i don't know if hungary will somehow go to a meeting with its european brothers-colleagues-partners or continue to negotiate with them about some ties for myself, but obviously it is her firm so far no she is talking about the fact that the oil embargo for the russian federation remains for the time being the desire

of ukraine well, but less so we should understand a sharp er i do not know a sharp stop in the supply of russian oil in particular, in the european union , it will mean that its price increase will be quite sharp. this means that by selling less in quantity, the russians will be able to earn quite a lot of money, if not more than what they are currently earning for this whole business, well, they are active in china buys even from its warehouses, as i already noted about the stock. as they say, yes, there is such a well- known ukrainian cool blogger about the stock. well, they buy everything from the chinese for the stock, but we understand that in reality, not only the energy revolution is happening all over the world, yes, this one the storm will affect a lot of countries, uh, we understand how much the standard of living will fall on the other hand, this moral revolution, that is, europeans are used to counting money, europeans understand yes, what's the point and

how much does it cost where to earn and they already know that so to speak, everything was planned for the next 10 years, if it wasn't russian, you understand bloody chaos , maybe it would all work out like this, little by little, but the idea itself is not bad, well, remember the creation of the european union as such already after the second world war, it's better, as they say, to trade to be economic with each other better was not invented in general in the history of europe and we see this effective model so well and first of all our main task of ukraine is to join this not only civilized education but the world a lot because it is not it's just a club, you understand, i don't know where switzerland is with france, germany, but it is a much weaker country economically and hungary itself, so it is pulled up at the expense of the industrial monsters of france and germany, well, accordingly, i think that otaka is the reason

that hungary was allowed to engage in such energy amateurism. i think it is for a certain with a certain non-public, of course, but with a certain agreement of the main players of the european union, otherwise they would have found financial instruments in order to restrain the proud hungarian, we are listening to the hungarian brexit maybe, to be honest, it would also be possible, well, we just don’t know how hard and how closely the kremlin works with hungary. of course, this would be a precedent, and accordingly, the european union would not be morally ready for this , because this is not even a story about britain yes, it is much, much, much deeper, this is the continent, and accordingly, if the european union were forced to resort to such er measures, well, it would mean a huge further crisis of the european union antin berkovsky er air of the tv channel espresso continues at 18:00, it continues

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