it is more expensive than let's say that you provide yourself with a higher orientation, let's see conventionally speaking somewhere in about two weeks how they normalize in fact while you are an offer and we will see the price lower well, let's look at this forecast, if your profitability is so low, then i'm sorry, this will not happen and we will see how it will really happen, how will it affect the market? because vat has been reduced and the excise tax has been abolished accordingly, and accordingly the best conditions have been created, there are agreements with other countries , accordingly, regulations have also been removed all these steps well, now, in principle, i'm not against what the market regulates, but still, it's not necessary to say that it's some kind of thing, i don't know the limit of orientation, no, the business is highly profitable and marginal, in two weeks we'll see the decline, when, accordingly, the competition resumes, i still can ask one yes, please. and tell me, please, did anyone take into account the losses suffered by market operators at the

beginning of the war. for example, i know one kyiv network that suffered losses of 55 million dollars in two days. these are oil depots, this is gas stations, and this is fuel, which was on the storage uh, well, on the eve of the seed company, someone managed to take into account whether someone will be taken over. and you can say the question: i love only economics. destroyed buildings, but this does not mean that i went to my management. i say, give me more salary, since i suffered losses , i urgently need to cover these losses, well, this is my personal loss. sell for uah 500 per loaf, well, how much did she suffer there? does she have a grain store there, or a flour store there, maybe it was destroyed somewhere? well, maybe i'm wrong, but there is some kind of marginality, too

, but i'm still there. while visiting, i wanted to return to the topic of the price of public transport for minibuses and buses, how much it can increase now, we don’t have one, yes, please, one thing, shkadovsky, how much is the price transformed for people, because our incomes have been significantly reduced, if well, i know that for example, along my routes where my family lives, it has already doubled, the cost of the route has increased from the settlement what are the forecasts for the settlement, let's participate in turn, mr. ulyana skadovska yes, i repeat that this business was marginal. why? because in this situation there are very often monopolies, accordingly they

set the price, which is because, for example , there was no regulation between city connections such as within the city. therefore, they the set price based on the extent to which they, respectively, have monopolization there, and then this is the question of how many passengers are there, their solvency, because sometimes the same routes are the same, but in the same place, in different cities , respectively, the price was conventionally 25 hryvnias and in the other it was only 15 hryvnias, it turns out that from the corresponding passenger flows and its solvency, there are rich people and poor people in the other city, tell me well , i understand correctly, that is why the distance here is 25 and here 15 irpin was a lot, the city there was 24 hryvnias before the war, before the war, what was there? sorry, but some routes were sold and, accordingly, there was a monopoly, that is, in this situation, we have no competition, that is, if someone else were to

write additionally, he would create competition for this, well, the tenders were really conditional, that is, if we had competition there, the price would probably fall accordingly. and so this is a local monopoly, local prices are actually set. but again, there are also objective factors, the passenger flow decreased if you will talk about irpin, well, we know the amount of destruction there and people do not live there, accordingly, the number of people who drive in kyiv has significantly decreased, gasoline is still a cut compared to the previous one, that is, there are certain objective factors, but there are also subjective but the factor is definitely 70%. i believe that the monopoly committee should deal with such an approach to pricing. such a route. i believe that this is a form of maro to increase the cost of transportation by 70%, well, this is lviv , specifically minibuses in our country, our journalists did kremenchug, lviv, two cities, central ukraine and zahidna, here in lviv, they want us to increase it for lviv residents plus seven, that is, plus 70, it was 10, it became 17,

it will be different, they say it is cost-effective. on the scale of the country, city councils, the city government in every city provides electric transport. it seems to me that it is not enough at all to make electric transport free for all citizens for a certain period in order to relieve all road transport for moreover, people used their private cars less and used minibuses less, which also consume diesel and gasoline, which is necessary for the army. maybe i'm wrong. but it seems to me that it was not catastrophic. there were revenues from the budget, revenues from the budget, and expenditures from the budget in order to ensure that you see such an innovation. moreover, in many european countries, urban electric transport works free of charge for its residents, i ask leonid, i will support the last thesis of yours .

the period of such and such fuel shocks, e.e., for the period of the war, free of charge regarding the increase in the cost of travel. well, we must understand that fuel is the lifeblood of the economy, and even more so of transport, and its price affects literally everything from the services of a hairdresser to heavy engineering. therefore, there is nothing surprising here we need to fight the first reason, first fill the market, then fight the prices, and then look at who is there, who is doing what, but your last thesis about free public transport, i think that the city has earned enough funds for the war in order to somehow improve and make life easier for its citizens who have now returned to the cities, mr. lunin, your opinion is about, but what exactly about trolleybuses, about trams, which do not need

fuel anymore, but only electricity, ilya , i came, it was i myself, you meant it thank you i'm asking skadovskogo if he can hear us. i have already stated about this several times, in principle, that it is necessary to increase the number of the same trolleybuses and trams on the routes to the maximum if it would be done free of charge accordingly, the population would make a decision about why not use it to get there for free , especially if it is not to stand in a traffic jam . i see traffic jams and these traffic jams are big enough, let's say , the question arises, well, again, how rational is the use of fuel under these conditions, that is, i understand if there were an alternative, in this case, trolleybuses and trams run well, it is not enough because when one walks once every

half an hour and of course it does not fill the corresponding need, a person decides to use some alternative, in particular, his own transport and, in particular, creates traffic jams, therefore such a thesis is absolutely justified and is appropriate for other ways to encourage people to use precisely by electric transport and free of charge, its quantity, convenience, everything else is normal. it would be positive, and in general, for the economy of each city, the only thing i would say is that maybe you cities were making money, let's say before the war, but now they have a frankly budget disaster because their income has fallen very much , they don't pay a single tax, respectively - it's a land tax, incomes have been reduced, respectively, only budgets pay, commercial enterprises have stopped, a very large number have stopped because of that the situation with local budgets is really quite difficult, so it is entirely up to them to solve the whole problem . i wouldn’t put it here, uh, i know where you can

find money, but in the same minibuses, how much we have already talked about the fact that electronic passenger registration should be introduced in minibuses so that there is not a huge amount of black cash , that is why these routes are always very attractive . a certain route, because there is no record of passengers, no record of money is kept at all, the tax base is incredibly larger than it actually is, taxes are taken with it well, as far as i know, we are still 20 exactly about taxes. they are in the second group, the second group, respectively, this payment is fixed . therefore, the accounting here is essentially not taken into account , because it does not affect the tax base. well , then, let's transfer from the second group. to the owner of the route, and that

owner takes it to the administration of one or another city for a permit to work on this route. well, we remember these vines because he remembers the shootout in brovary. do you remember when two armed groups were there before 50 people fought just for a few routes from brovary to kyiv, do you understand how the same routes in kyiv shot through the windows of a new operator who entered the route to kyiv even on lybidskaya it seems that it was before the war and that means there is no there is no there is no additional money for the budget of the capital or another city, where, where, where, where to find additional funding. well, it seems to me that these are obvious things that are needed. if there is a second group, let's transfer these people to general taxation. well, maybe i'm wrong. leonid, i am asking you for your word. well, i am more supportive of you here. although i do not know much about e-e-taxes. yes, but i can only say one thing that it is possible, even if it is not free transport, then water, some kind of

clear the prices would be so favorable and it would be extremely reduced the tension on the fuel market , including saying well, but we understand that where the state does not work well, there is always a gray and such corrupt market, and it has always been and is, and the war here has nothing to do with the conditions, well, it did not go anywhere from us ilya well, let's do one more thing i wanted you to comment, we already talked about it today, uh, about the fact that the pechersk court of uh, the capital transferred the corporate rights to 26 companies of operators of gas pipelines and gas distribution systems. e gas, some company of dmytro vasylyovych firtash oligarch, it happened on wednesday

the day before, the investigating judge of the pechersk court, by one of his decisions, handed over all the property of the regional gas company. what does this mean? to what extent is this market liberalization or is it just that at the previous studio they talked about debt cancellation, because these regional gas companies have large debts and now we will pay these debts from our own pockets, that is, from the budget, i will ask later. yes, first of all, it is true firtash's weakness, because it is possible that he would have agreed, for example, to write it off at the expense of our budget. and when he did it earlier, he could do now what is being transferred now, and it is being transferred, including with debts , accordingly, someone has to pay for them, as a new owner and i don't know if there will be or not, then i think that we will pay it. first, we will accordingly say that we cannot sell these gas distribution systems because, accordingly, they are unattractive for investors, then accordingly, we will pay it off at

our own expense, in fact at the expense of the state their debts, then we will offer here, again, the question of who will buy it, how transparent will their management be, and regarding the army, i have well, to be honest with them, there is always a question about how they dispose of themselves property and it is possible, let's say so, there will be information about how inefficient and how corrupt these gas distribution systems will be managed, they will give good ones that ukrainians pay directly for the delivery of gas , so i don't really welcome this decision. i understand that fitness actually stole from the people, but they simply handed it over other structures that also use the most effectively i would like these distribution systems to be sold at an open tender and according to the owner's obligations conditions for this market to be properly regulated and not as it is now because it is too profitable after those decisions to establish fixed amounts for gas delivery and ukrainians actually already pay for

gas, it is not interesting it is regulated but gas distribution systems they are very interesting for anyone because here you can actually set any price , any cost, as a result, receive excess profits, well, of course, the previous expert here, mark savchuk, told us that somewhere around 60 billion hryvnias, these regional gas plants, which we obviously this money is now paid for firtash from their intestines, the director of the institute of socio-economic transformation and leonid kosyanchuk, an expert on the oil products market of ukraine, were our guests of this couple, and towards the end of the hour , we will have them. also a people's deputy of ukraine. we congratulate you. good day, mr. yaroslav. evening. that's what we were told you had a limited time ago. let's ask you the first question. well , i see on your page a photo of the steering wheel

of a two-wheeled horse in a traffic jam. that's how you decide problems with fuel yes, let's go once again, you had a bad hearing yaroslav is already a twin, you are fine there with the sounds here is the second one on the bike - it allows you to reduce the time for passing eh but the goal is the price for alternative means of transportation has increased in ukraine i yesterday i spoke with victor ukolov, a polytech expert. he said that he bought an electric scooter, but it used to cost 31,000, and he bought it for 40 each, and now it costs 50. a chinese scooter is not so cheap . you see, everyone here wants to make money on each one problems, he needs to look at the currency exchange rate and the meaning will become clear, this is exclusively and imported, we have ukrainian products, but not so

much, but well, well, listen now, gasoline, i just went to lviv, it was 48-49 uah, you could fill up, well, about objective is what was available at some gas stations, well, in the city of leva 52, please invite us. this is kyiv in the kyiv region it is much more difficult there, there are no prices, they reach some kind of incomprehensible mark, they honestly say, let’s talk about whether the income goes to people’s budgets and to the budgets of the communities of cities, etc. for example, sumyshchyna is a border area there today, an air defense missile shot down a missile over the city of sumy or nearby, constant

shelling of the border area, but this region is excluded from the list those where military operations are taking place and people, i see a lot of comments, they write why we are excluded from this list and the military administration explains that we need to function normally and collect business taxes to make it work and there is such a misunderstanding between people and the administration that worries about taxes, it is clear that people do not understand that until may, until may 1, they were included even sumy region, kyiv region, chernihiv region, the list of people who can claim 2000 social benefits from the state but so far people have not seen this whole today already on may 20, it is simply not clear when people at all do people withhold these promised social payments no no zlina, please have a word. what do you think, we have your forecast

here are slightly different points of view with my colleagues and i hear the experts, first of all, i believe that in general , during the martial law, we have a difficult and almost impossible situation to exist for economic activity in all territories and to create relatively calm western regions in them there are a bunch of problems that for some reason no one wants to hear about now. well, for example, even the fact that a large number of the working population, even from those regions from the chernivtsi region, from the lviv region, the ivano-frankivsk region, at the beginning of the war left ukraine, these are women with children who received a certain status and are not returning to ukraine yet, and they have every right to do so, because today i hear the statements of the kyiv military administration again that they should not return to kyiv, which means that not everyone can start

work, and we have already adopted so many changes at the legislative level that it turns out that many people think that due to the filling of the budget, everyone has to start doing their work and so on. i was sure and always insists that the business who can work, who can pay wages and pay taxes to the budget, he does this without coercion. in our country, especially after the beginning of this harsh, harsh war, there is no general understanding that i am a poor person somewhere, standing on the sidelines, and i will not pay anything to the budget, that's why i hope that the further policy that we conduct around business, around economic issues, tax and customs issues, it will be weighed and take into account all the situations that have developed in us in ukraine. that's what i always stand for insisted. and i think that this inequality that arises

even now after receiving payment from the state , it already arose more than a month ago, when irpin and borodyanka were released in our eyes and these citizens were not able to register in action in order to receive 6,500 benefits from us they did not receive anything from the state at all, they only receive it when they move somewhere somewhere and receive the status of a temporarily displaced person. why do this if there are people, a large number of people who return to their places, begin to repair and continue their lives are where they were before all this abuse of people, that's why, uh, actually, one more number , we're not expecting, it's not us, according to the calculations of the experts, we expected a significant impoverishment of our population in the next three months, that is, it

will be beyond the limit that a person can exist, then you are at the minimum subsistence level that a person should have for himself to ensure his life, here is the maximum, now we need attention and a reasonable approach to the issue thank you yaroslav zheleznyak how do you see this situation, of course we need to support business of course, we need to solve the issue of insufficient money in the budget, the best option so far will be external aid, well, he frankly says that this is the only option for sure, in which the interests of the sumy administration and businessmen in sumy will coincide, and we will be able to reduce it to this tool. these must be some government orders for local businesses, they don't have this money, what 250 questions or something else listen, well

, we can reduce taxation at least to zero, but if there is no profit, then it will not help much yes look at us, it's very simple, i'm here right now, you 're at the conference, we're discussing it in walden, all the battles, the plan for the reconstruction of ukraine, just in the first part, it's how to give business and the country to survive, and everything is very simple with us there are two areas in which there will be money, well, it was also necessary to tell the truth, this military and reconstruction, well, construction, and we will have to involve business as much as possible, so this god of the spheres is conditional, if someone produced t-shirts , then he should now produce tactical t-shirts the state must purchase glasses or something else for ours. the second is the maximum number of projects that we can launch now, not all of us can but not all of us have the money to move, we will not be populists, but for example, the expansion of checkpoints

is a big project it attracts a large number of people and it money into the economy from the construction of the same buchi is a project that can also be engaged in now. well, there are many such examples. among them are metallurgy, which, let's be honest, will not find similar specialties in ukraine very quickly. well, there is simply no such metallurgical zone, we need to transfer them conditionally to those people who will be involved in the new economy. and there will be an opportunity to attract additional money to support people, of course let's pay in full, i agree to change the level of mariupoli in general, a person could have had no connection, they did not receive 6,500. this is a big problem, they left before this. well, they physically did not have any. maybe, but once again here. we need to know how to get out of this, what

can we do, we can also expand international support, we can open up the navisphere, we can actually involve small and medium - sized businesses in them, and we can gradually. we need to work in the right directions, friends. i apologize, i have to disconnect. if you will be a people's deputy of ukraine, thank you, nina yuzhanina, you and i last spoke on our air, this was before your meetings of the extreme verkhovna rada the council and we talked about the sequestration of the budget and your proposals as the opposition to redirect the possibility of the article to military needs, now, the meeting of the verkhovna rada well, not everything is brought into the public sphere. the articles that you suggested, i would like to finish our previous

topic, after all, when i am talking about business, they do not need that kind of support, it is better not to disturb the business, then it will be absolutely adequate attitude of business to the state because when we told them that we will already apply financial sanctions to you for not submitting reports in a timely manner or not fully determining taxes, the business was immediately outraged and you saw and heard what is happening now associations and a petition which appeal to e.e. the president regarding the wrong policy that is being carried out in ukraine, both economic and tax, and customs officials regarding the breakdown of checkpoints, you recently discussed the topic of fuel shortages, we know that now we have gas trucks going along a green

corridor, greener than the previous green one, because humanitarian aid and other groups of goods should go without a queue, and we are talking about gas trucks . the fact that the capacity of our customs points is very limited for three months of the war. it seems to me that if we reacted quickly and realized that such consequences would be for us in general in terms of logistics, closed ports with closed air connections, what would we do ? two months ago, the construction of these checkpoints should have started, and we would have already completed it, because each checkpoint is an agreement with a neighboring country that will join the development, and it is in our common interests now to unload the checkpoints and make them more accessible and more capable in terms of capacity,

understand that everything must be done often, there would not be a shortage of fuel if we also knew in time what our relationship with the russian federation was, or found other markets for the supply of fuel to ukraine now regarding the sequestration of the budget. i am looking at the present day, the sequestration has already taken place in the amount of 313 billion, a huge amount, as far as socioeconomy is concerned, and the direction of this socioeconomy has actually taken place. carries out redistribution and can change the previous order. that is why these comments and criticism that were heard, they are in principle taken into account 14.9 billion that should have been directed to the socicon, they are

now allocated to the aid that is paid out to our m-m, because of her support, we just told the affected persons registered on e-e, at least these 6,500. so , 21.5 billion uah have already been allocated to pay out 6,500. this is a huge amount, including that it was used according to the resolution at the expense of seven hundred percent of the expenses on the social economy do not always take place in accordance with the law that we adopted exclusively for defense, so uh, i think that we will be able to voice our questions later. at the next meeting in the committee, he will still be able to explain why some expenses fall out of the norms

that were voted in the hall, and these amounts are not small . to avoid wartime, and on the other hand, all our resources must be directed exclusively to defense and take into account but please , taking into account the significant budget deficit, i would like to emphasize that we have an extremely difficult month and we are ending may extremely difficult situations because i i heard a statement yesterday by the minister of finance . this month, we received only one such financial support in the budget, and 1 billion is 600 million that were still promised to us. at the beginning of march, they finally reached us and we received the second part of 500

million from the donor trust fund of the world bank and that's all, and i'm very worried that it's not 5 billion, and even the minister said that we expect to receive at least two, but for today only one and one, it's very, very little help and we we understand the latest information, there is no time for radio svoboda to continue we should not go to the south. thank you for your professional comments. greetings, this is freedom. my name is vlasta lazur. luhansk region reports the head of the region, serhii gaidai, according to him, currently more than 90% of the region